2-Prasad: re. How to deal with malefics?

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Great ! One should look at all planets as benefic & work to appease

them !

 

Prasad: Yes, exactly! When I first

started in my study of Jyotish, I came across Parashara's original Hora

book. In there he describes the planets, (in the very beginning), he

says: " in the begining Lord Vishnu entered into each graha,

(planet) to bestow upon his devotees, the natural consequences of their

actions! "

From this single expression I knew that all the

planets are really just the Lord giving back to us our karmas from past

actions, SO, that we learn from our actions!

And what better way to learn than to face

directly the results of our actions. Then, we can choose to

create better ones! The other really cool thing, is that God,

does not pre-maturely give us any consequence, other than one's

we're deserving, so if we're unhappy with our lot, with our experiences,

the very moment we stop blaming, stop blaming, our job, or lack of

one, money, our boss, the economy, or God himself, than truly

begins the empowerment of ourselves! We are the orchestrator

of our lives, we always have been and we alwasy will be! WE,

therefore, only need to look to ourselves, to what we can do to improve

ourselves, and then, our actions and future consequences will be

better!

Jai Sani! Mark K.

 

PS: When we realize that all planets are

basically 'good' or benefic and their malefic side onlycomes out if

we've been malefic with it; than we will be in a better shape to transform

our karmaswith that planet, into their more highly evolved or

benefic side!Jai Guru!

 

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 7:26 PM, markkincaid (AT) (DOT) com>

wrote:

If saturn is to be tackled for losses,do we attribute all success to

Jupiter ?I think Saturn does give benefic results too if placed in

good houses in a chart & is not a natural malefic.Am I right Mark ?Hi Prasad: Yes, of course. In fact, I

don't mean to suggest that only Jupiter means success.WE NEED

TO BE IN-TUNE WITH SATURN TOO!And, then success will be truly

ours! At every moment we can know if we're supposed to beexpanding

or resting! As we learn to allow both to go on, then real success will

come!In the future I believe we'll learn that it's better to

consider all planets as being BENEFIC!And only at times do they

appear as functioning malefics!Mark K.

 

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 5:46 PM, markkincaid (AT) (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

8a.

What

remedies will help to protect job and income in general ??

 

Posted by: " Nandana astro " nandanaastro

nandana_tpai

 

Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:24 pm (PST)

Namaskar All. Last few months, job loss is common and some

are under threat of termination, or a huge cut in there salary. How to find the remedy to prevent a loss of job or loss of

income? or restore the lost job ? Any thing which can

be suggested from a chart will be helpful to readers and to students

like me

 

 

Dear Nandana: You've asked

now, the perfect Jyotish question! It's not

enough that we just deal with the astrology of job loss after it's

happened.

The best thing to do is figure out what we

can do to " prevent " job or income loss in the first place!

The number one thing to know is that any losses in life are due to

Saturn. Saturn is the primary planet of loss. On the other hand Jupiter is the planet of 'find' or 'gain' or

'expansion'.

 

So, we should talk about both of them.

But, first let's talk about Saturn.

 

If Saturn is the primary planet of loss,

than the question really is what can we do to understand why Saturn is

bringing us and the world these losses? The thing is Saturn

is the planet indicative of balance. In other words if

Jupiter is the planet of expansion, and we've been going and going and

progressing for days, what do we then need?

 

We need to rest. So, we have 5

days of work during the week, than 1 to 2 days of rest at the end! But, how many people really rest enough?

 

The sign that you've rested enough over the

weekend is that you wake up Monday morning raring to go! How

few people can say that!

 

So, we plunge back into an intense and

hectic work week until, whoosh, we're back in the following weekend

break.

 

But, even then, though we're demonstrably

beginning to 'drag' now, we keep going.

 

A few more weeks of this and boom! We're

sick! We're laid up, we can't move and we're lying there

wondering what the 'heck' happened! Hopefully, we have a wise

parent or partner who can tell us why this happened?

 

" Don't you remember these last few

weeks? You've been working and working. I even

told you to rest more, but you … didn't and now you're paying the

price! "

 

What happened, why did we get laid up?

Because, we were just trying to move ahead without enough Saturn

rest!

 

So, what did Saturn do? Made

us rest! Forced us to stop and take rest!

 

Why? Why did he do this?

Because all progress in life depends on two steps, not just

1! We so love to move ahead on Jupiter's watchful eye and

tantalizing vibration!

 

But, if we don't wed important, prudent,

Saturn wisdom to Jupiter's expansions than we're going to again get sick,

and be forced to stay in bed!

 

Like that we work and work and work, and

even, whole companies work and work and work. But, they too,

don't rest enough. And, if companies don't rest enough,

consistently enough, than what happens to the company?

 

The company is forced to rest! The company is forced to slow down, to lay off workers, and to

begin the healing process for them, as well!

 

So, what is the solution! The

main solution for each one of us is to pay sufficient attention to our own

Saturn's that we can hear and heed the unique Saturn warnings that are

right there in front of us!

 

Right now, nature, our bodies, our hearts

and minds are telling us something!

 

We're either well rested or we're

not!

 

And, if we're not; than we're feeling the

opposite, tiredness, fatigue, stress, anxiety, worry, impatience and even

depression!

 

How often has someone said: " Don't worry, everything will be better in the

morning! "

 

Of course we don't believe it but we've got

to rest anyway, so we go to bed, and lo and behold the next day, something

has shifted, we do feel better and maybe, just maybe we get it!

 

" Oh, my God, I was just

tired! "

 

" Oh, my God, I was just not getting

enough rest! "

 

So, this is how we learn. We

have an intrinsic Jupiter sense to go and progress in life. Our whole world is under the benign and beautiful grip of

Jupiter! We all want to progress and enjoy profound

prosperity and abundance!

 

But, if we're not sufficiently aware of

Saturn's important role in life; we're going to NOT progress! We're NOT going to grow, to expand and achieve our goals; because

all progress in life flows through two alternating steps of rest and

activity!

 

Sure we get up and act, we go about our day,

we enjoy increasing waves of activities and success.

 

But, if we didn't do, act and move ahead,

consistently with ENOUGH Saturn rest and balance, than at some point we

will, again, fall down sick!

 

Loosing our jobs, loss of income is only a

sign really!

 

They're only a sign of Saturn neglect!

If we really want to make sure that we don't suffer

the tremendously frustrating pangs of job and income loss again; we just

need to do one thing!

 

We need to get enough rest! We

need to get enough consistent rejuvenation, recuperation, and healing

silence, so that the next wave of activity will be healthy and

balanced!

 

If we do this, then, even if the company

we're in is going to have to lay off people, because they've collectively

not been taking enough care to be in-tune with their Saturn's; we'll be

prepared, we'll be ready to shift, and move into a new job, career or

occupation!

 

The key for that then, is that we need to be

ready to move into new situations! We need to be prepared

financially, so if one job, company or industry peters out; we need to be

prepared to move into the next situation!

 

Millions and millions of people are so

sorely lacking in their Saturn preparation to do this, that the minor

adjustments of Saturn, grab us by the neck and make us suffer!

 

We should remember that Saturn is going to

be doing his job! We've got to now, do our part, to get

enough rest, to save enough money and be prepared for anything!

 

If we do this, then, we'll be adequately

prepared for everything!

 

Of course, it won't hurt either if we know

all the subtle details or our personal chart!

 

So, far we've only discussed this in general

terms, so it'll be very important to integrate this discussion with all

the details of our personal charts.

 

I'll give you an example. All

of my life I seemed to suffer financially. I'd work, and

work but never seemed to either make enough or have enough left over to

live a more comfortable life!

 

I went through two marriages, and two

extremely painful divorces in part due to both of us not being able to

either make enough money or save enough!

 

When I got divorced I was so tired of

suffering in this way, I went to the library and looked up books on

finances.

 

In all the books I read, they all said there

was one thing that was the most important to develop and secure

significant and profound prosperity!

 

Yes, you guessed it, 'saved money'! The number one goal of all financial situations should be a savings

plan! The first goal in fact, is to develop an emergency

fund of at least 6 months of our monthly expenses.

 

When I read this I was shocked! I heard the words of my deceased father ringing in my ear: " I told you! I told you so! "

 

I just thought he was so cute and

provincial! Years later, after doing it my own way, suddenly

I was willing to hear!

 

I thought, okay, I'm tired of living pay

check to pay check, maybe I'll give it a try! You know I've

never faced something so difficult as learning to save! I

had no knowledge of my astrology at this point, (Saturn in the

12th house) but I was ready to try. You know it

took me over 12 months to save up even 1,000$. My goal at

the time was to save at least $ 6,000, (my 6 month expenses, by the

way). But, even saving $ 1,000, made a huge change in my

life!

 

Suddenly, I had 'enough' money that for the

first time in my entire life, I was not subject to the extreme shakes when

bills come in and you can't pay them!

 

I'd face a normal bill and could pay

it! I'd even find myself facing unexpected expenses, flat

tire or car expense, whatever, and boom! For the first time, I could meet

these too! So, what had happened? I'd learned

to (Saturn) save and I was enjoying the tremendous joy and power of living

from a deeper level of Saturn having ness!

 

I got extremely inspired to save the

remaining 6 months of my expenses.

 

Funnily enough, that took me only 1 more

year to achieve!

 

That was quite surprising, since it first

took me a year to achieve only my first 1,000$!

 

 

So, this shows once we start, it will

get better and better.

 

Then, when I had saved my 6

months of my expenses, oh, my God, I felt wealthy!

 

So, this is what it's like to always have

money!

To always have enough anyway, that no normal

expenditure throws us off! Wow, that was the beginning of my

first real insight into the nature of Saturn saving!

 

So, how few of us are able to do

this?

How few of us even realize that we should be

doing this?

 

Because so few other people are doing this,

we collectively keep suffering the repeating pangs of neglect until boom,

a whole company goes into recession!

 

Maybe a whole town wakes up one morning and

is exhausted!

 

Right now, our whole world is reeling under

the sad Saturn neglect of inadequate Saturn savings and

preparation.

 

And, who do we blame!

 

We blame the company that laid us off!

We blame our country which didn't protect us from this

company! We blame our world, heck, we even blame God for our

demise!

 

Or if we're into astrology, we even blame

Saturn for bringing us this hardship!

 

But, Sani's not the blame, God's not the

blame, even our companies, country's and parents aren't to

blame!

 

Yep, we're to blame. Deep

inside our charts, those of us who don't have adequate knowledge and

wisdom of Saturn, are suffering, but again, Saturn's not to

blame!

 

Saturn, is just the innocent messenger of

our actions, which are now coming back to us! Saturn is not

to blame. We are!

 

It's very easy to prove this to

ourselves. Where ever you are, right now, you can decide to

save more! You can decide to make this a higher desire and

make it happen!

 

I know this is possible, because it happened

to me! But, we have to be willing. Until we

get tired of doing it 'our way' we won't change. Only when

the grief is intense enough, will we be willing to change!

 

Hopefully, we'll still be alive when we're

finally ready!

 

But, if you don't have a job, you can't

really save right?

That's true, but just know the tremendously

frustrating and debilitating realities of being in the Saturn lack, are

just nature showing us the ills of our ways.

 

If we're now, ready to change, to begin

embracing the healthy, more balanced realities of Saturn, then we may be

ready to move out of Saturn's lower, more depressing features!

 

Next, time you have a job, save!

 

Make it a priority, a goal and work at

it!

 

I used to think that some how this would be

too difficult.

I certainly thought it would be NO fun! Instead I discovered the great joy that comes from

saving!

 

It's even more powerful and enjoyable to

save, vs. spending alone!

 

Even when I went into my Saturn maha dasa

period in 1991, I still found it possible to save.

 

We always need to 'save' in both our

physical health and in our career, and financial savings!

 

We do this one thing, we figure out how to

do this, one thing, to save! And we'll be amazed at what

happens!

 

Then, the next time some company which

doesn't understand Saturn, lets us go, we WILL be better prepared for

moving into that new situation!

 

It may not seem like this is an answer that

we can heed, today, but the fact is, our present dilemma's have been

coming along for a long time!

 

We've been getting out of Saturn balance for

awhile, and now, suddenly we're in the drink! So, it may

take some time. We need to understand why this has happened

and learn to appreciate some of Saturn's true purpose, to save and

acquire, and in that added Saturn silence, that comes from saving, we can

move again with Jupiter, without getting out of balance, again!

 

 

Jai Sani….!

 

Jai Guru

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

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