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Mark:

 

 

 

 

Yes planetary sign change, I look forward to joining your transit

group!

Jace

 

Jace: Me too. Was also thinking you can catch up

on a number of past emails and transitreports in the Nature's

Astrology archieves.Mark

 

 

markkincaid (AT) (DOT) com

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Great Post Mark, Terrific read of the two ........Can you please detail more the Ingress

experience since the Aspects remain the same in both,,Correct?BestJace

Hi Jace: I absolutely love the

Transits. Having made a Jyotish chart each day for almost 19 years I can

with a lot of certainty I think I've learned the mostin learning to watch

andunderstand the natural Jyotish principles that are in nature.If there's enough interest from rs I'd love to spend more

time, so we'll see if enough people join my new Transits newsletter.My new groups going to be at: TodaysDailyWeeklyMonthlyYearlyStarsTransits/My the word ingress, do you mean planetary sign change?Mark

 

 

 

http://finance.tradingharmonically/

markkincaid (AT) (DOT) com

wrote:

 

 

 

 

Best of West & East

 

 

Dear Friends, Subscribers:

 

 

We’ve had so many

new people join over these last couple of months I thought today, it might

be helpful to focus a little on the relationship between Western &

Eastern Astrology.

So, if you have any

personal experiences of both of your Western & Eastern charts, let us know!

 

For me, I first started

studying Western when I was in high school and college. Back

then one tended to just read one’s daily Horoscope or those cute

little Sun Sign books that appear quite often in the check out lines of

most grocery stores!

So, I picked up one and

felt something when I read about my Western Sun in Virgo

description. Some of it, of course didn’t seem to fit

me, but hey, I didn’t know enough about Astrology to know one way or

the other.

But, I did hear that

there was a complete Astrological chart which is more thorough then just

one’s Sun Sign. I knew that must be more

important. So, I sent away for mine. But, in

1969 it cost me 20$ for a 20 page computerized print out all about my

chart.

I devoured it. The specificity, the details enthralled me. It was so

fascinating to read about so many aspects about myself. On and off over

the next ten years or so I continued reading about Western

Astrology.

Then, in 1988 while

attending an Ayurvedic conference in New Delhi At the time I knew that Eastern was supposed to be

different then Western but I couldn’t have told you

why. I first got introduced

to the Eastern version of Astrology called Jyotish or Vedic

Astrology.

While I was there I had a

professional reading of my Jyotish. I have to tell you

though; it was nothing I was prepared for. As the Indian

Jyotishee went through the different aspects of my seat, I was on pins and

needles. I was alternating between,…

“wow”, to “mmmm”, to “yes”, and

finally “WOW….that’s me!”

Now, of course, I know

this is the classic experience of good Astrological resonance. One is supposed to feel touched, or some synchronicity as to

one’s chart. Why? Because, our charts

are supposed to fit us?

But, how can both our

Western and Eastern charts fit us? They do after all

describe very different charts. Right now, the two systems

are about 23 degrees apart. In fact, they’ve been

drifting apart for over 1600 years.

1600 years ago, the

Mathematics of Western was very close to the Mathematics of Jyotish. Then, Western Astrology got the notion that the

Stars should be calculated on the day of the Spring Equinox. At the time, the dark ages were going on in Europe and

people were interested in reviving Astrology. In the East the Astrology

chart is calculated with the Sun moving into the first degree of Aries as

the first day of the year.

At that time there

wasn’t much difference between the outcomes of these two very

different systems. However, over the years the divide

between West and East deepened. With each 72 years passing,

the two systems drifted 1 degree apart. Now, after over 1600

years, the two systems are that 23 degrees apart.

So, if you want to know

your Eastern chart, subtract 23 degrees from your Western chart. Each part of your Western chart is also 23 degrees before your

Western one. Now, study both of these charts. They will tend to be somewhat different, though they also tend to

overlap slightly.

This is a coincidence

because the two systems are still only 23 degrees apart. So,

for example, my Sun moves from Virgo into Leo between the two systems, in

fact all the Planets that are in Virgo move into Leo in my Eastern chat,

but the Moon in Libra, in my Western chart moves into Virgo. Also, my Saturn in my Eastern chart is in Virgo.

So, I do have some Virgo

planets in my chart. Western says my Sun, Mercury and Venus

are all in Virgo while my Eastern chart says my Moon & Saturn are in

Virgo.

No wonder I related to

some of the ideas of my Western chart. The descriptions of

Virgo, being a perfectionist, and detailed oriented, even self-critical

were all true. But, something felt slightly uneasy or

incorrect though I couldn’t put my finger on it at the

time.

Then, when I learned my

Jyotish chart and read about the difference between my Eastern vs. my

Western planets in Virgo it finally made sense. I do relate

to some of those typical Virgo descriptions. When I was a

kid I’d run into my friends at school and the first thing I’d

do is say as I reached up and straightened up their clothes: “Hey, who dressed you!”

They, of course, would

say, “Hey, bug off,…who are you, .. my Mother!” he he. That should have been my first clue. I was being the Mother, the Virgo Mother. But, when I

read about the Sun in Virgo that didn’t seem quite correct

either.

So, I moved onto the Leo

in my chart. In my Western chart I had only Mars in

Leo. And, I kind of liked the descriptions of Mars in Leo:

Strong, dynamic, enterprising. I even had many of these

qualities, but not belligerent, dictatorial.

Eventually, I read about

my Eastern chart. All my Virgo planets, Sun, Mercury and

Venus were supposed to move into Leo in my Jyotish chart. Wow, that’s a lot of Leo. I wonder if I have

any of these qualities. Then, I remembered, ever since I

was young I had business of my own.

When I was in high school

I had my own little lawn mowing business. Wow, I loved being

in business for myself. Now, that’s very symbolic of

the Sun in Leo. Sun in Virgo then, doesn’t seem to fit

me as well as the Sun in Leo.

But both systems do seem

to overlap so I couldn’t quite see the real difference until I read

about my Mars. In my Western chart my Mars was supposed to

be in Leo, while my Eastern chart has it moving into Cancer.

Of all the configurations

in my two charts this one is the clearest example of what is really

correct in my life. In my whole life, yes, I did have that

Leo side, but I was also slightly timid. I hated competing

against people and looking back now, I had a hard time standing up for

myself.

Now, that’s a

clearer description of my Mars in Cancer, and not in Leo. Other planets that shift dramatically are Jupiter, Moon, and my

Rising Sign. In my Western system my Jupiter moves into

Aries while it’s in Pisces in my Eastern chart. Not

only do I like my better Eastern Jupiter/Pisces but upon reflection it too

is more accurate.

Ever since I was young I

had a tremendous reflective and philosophical nature. I

loved talking about philosophy even before I ever hear the word. Also, I had a tremendous faith even though I liked to call myself a

doubting Thomas as well. Now, I understand these two

different qualities are due to my Jupiter in Pisces on the one hand and my

Moon in Virgo on the other.

Finally, I’d like to

say that the difference between a Scorpio and Libra rising is another

clear example of my Jyotish chart, fitting better. I have a

very obvious love of Libra harmony in my life. The qualities

and characteristics of Scorpio are not strong in me. Since

the Rising sign represents how we get along there’s too much of a

difference between Scorpio & Libra for me to think I could be a

Scorpio.

Also, if I had a Scorpio

rising and a Mars in Leo I’d be much more intense.

So, study both of your

Western and Eastern charts. Actually, first write down what

you know about yourself. Without thinking of your

Astrology, just write down what you already experience about

yourself. Then, when you read about both your Western and

Eastern; see which one of them fits you, best!

 

Best of West vs. East

 

So, when I reflect on what

I consider the best of the Western vs. Eastern systems I have to say I

believe the Eastern system of calculating the chart is superior. Though it’s fascinating to me how similar the two systems are

too. Now, see, that’s the Libra in me! He

he.

For example, both systems

believe in the basic idea of Astrology that our charts fit us! Both systems also believe in the same basic structure of the

Astrological chart. Both systems believe in

Planets in Signs and Planets in Houses. Both systems mostly

disagree as to how to calculate the Astrological chart.

There is one other

difference which I think is extremely important. The

Western system believes in free will and the ability to change and improve

one’s stars. The Eastern system tends to not. In the Eastern system you’ll read a lot more about the

pre-determined, fatalistic aspect of life. In the West

there’s much more of an emphasis on self-determination!

In the , for example, we

have an old adage. It goes like this: “Any young

person is free to become President!” This belief of

complete freedom and growth potential is peculiar to the West. In the East the emphasis has been on fate and pre-condition aspects.

In the West I believe the

system of calculating the exact Mathematics is incorrect. In

the Eastern system I believe the belief in fate is incorrect. So, if we take the best of the East and it’s more accurate

Mathematics and combine it with the best of the West and its belief in

progress and growth; then I believe we’ll come to a better

understanding as to Astrology.

See, in nature there

really is no Eastern or Western systems. There’s only

one nature’s Astrology. We should then be able to find

in nature a verification of which principles are correct. Let your own experiences be a guide to help you discover your truest Astrological nature.

 

 

End Part 1 Best of

West & East

 

I’m very interested

in hearing other people’s experiences as to their Western &

Eastern charts.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

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Yes planetary sign change, I look forward to joining your transit

group!

Jace: Me too. Was also thinking you can

catch up on a number of past emails and transitreports in the

Nature's Astrology archieves.Mark

 

 

markkincaid (AT) (DOT) com

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great Post Mark, Terrific read of the two ........Can you please detail more the Ingress

experience since the Aspects remain the same in both,,Correct?BestJace

Hi Jace: I absolutely love the

Transits. Having made a Jyotish chart each day for almost 19 years I can

with a lot of certainty I think I've learned the mostin learning to watch

andunderstand the natural Jyotish principles that are in nature.If there's enough interest from rs I'd love to spend more

time, so we'll see if enough people join my new Transits newsletter.My new groups going to be at: TodaysDailyWeeklyMonthlyYearlyStarsTransits/My the word ingress, do you mean planetary sign change?Mark

 

 

 

http://finance.tradingharmonically/

markkincaid (AT) (DOT) com

wrote:

 

 

 

 

Best of West & East

 

 

Dear Friends, Subscribers:

 

 

We’ve had so many

new people join over these last couple of months I thought today, it might

be helpful to focus a little on the relationship between Western &

Eastern Astrology.

So, if you have any

personal experiences of both of your Western & Eastern charts, let us know!

 

For me, I first started

studying Western when I was in high school and college. Back

then one tended to just read one’s daily Horoscope or those cute

little Sun Sign books that appear quite often in the check out lines of

most grocery stores!

So, I picked up one and

felt something when I read about my Western Sun in Virgo

description. Some of it, of course didn’t seem to fit

me, but hey, I didn’t know enough about Astrology to know one way or

the other.

But, I did hear that

there was a complete Astrological chart which is more thorough then just

one’s Sun Sign. I knew that must be more

important. So, I sent away for mine. But, in

1969 it cost me 20$ for a 20 page computerized print out all about my

chart.

I devoured it. The specificity, the details enthralled me. It was so

fascinating to read about so many aspects about myself. On and off over

the next ten years or so I continued reading about Western

Astrology.

Then, in 1988 while

attending an Ayurvedic conference in New Delhi At the time I knew that Eastern was supposed to be

different then Western but I couldn’t have told you

why. I first got introduced

to the Eastern version of Astrology called Jyotish or Vedic

Astrology.

While I was there I had a

professional reading of my Jyotish. I have to tell you

though; it was nothing I was prepared for. As the Indian

Jyotishee went through the different aspects of my seat, I was on pins and

needles. I was alternating between,…

“wow”, to “mmmm”, to “yes”, and

finally “WOW….that’s me!”

Now, of course, I know

this is the classic experience of good Astrological resonance. One is supposed to feel touched, or some synchronicity as to

one’s chart. Why? Because, our charts

are supposed to fit us?

But, how can both our

Western and Eastern charts fit us? They do after all

describe very different charts. Right now, the two systems

are about 23 degrees apart. In fact, they’ve been

drifting apart for over 1600 years.

1600 years ago, the

Mathematics of Western was very close to the Mathematics of Jyotish. Then, Western Astrology got the notion that the

Stars should be calculated on the day of the Spring Equinox. At the time, the dark ages were going on in Europe and

people were interested in reviving Astrology. In the East the Astrology

chart is calculated with the Sun moving into the first degree of Aries as

the first day of the year.

At that time there

wasn’t much difference between the outcomes of these two very

different systems. However, over the years the divide

between West and East deepened. With each 72 years passing,

the two systems drifted 1 degree apart. Now, after over 1600

years, the two systems are that 23 degrees apart.

So, if you want to know

your Eastern chart, subtract 23 degrees from your Western chart. Each part of your Western chart is also 23 degrees before your

Western one. Now, study both of these charts. They will tend to be somewhat different, though they also tend to

overlap slightly.

This is a coincidence

because the two systems are still only 23 degrees apart. So,

for example, my Sun moves from Virgo into Leo between the two systems, in

fact all the Planets that are in Virgo move into Leo in my Eastern chat,

but the Moon in Libra, in my Western chart moves into Virgo. Also, my Saturn in my Eastern chart is in Virgo.

So, I do have some Virgo

planets in my chart. Western says my Sun, Mercury and Venus

are all in Virgo while my Eastern chart says my Moon & Saturn are in

Virgo.

No wonder I related to

some of the ideas of my Western chart. The descriptions of

Virgo, being a perfectionist, and detailed oriented, even self-critical

were all true. But, something felt slightly uneasy or

incorrect though I couldn’t put my finger on it at the

time.

Then, when I learned my

Jyotish chart and read about the difference between my Eastern vs. my

Western planets in Virgo it finally made sense. I do relate

to some of those typical Virgo descriptions. When I was a

kid I’d run into my friends at school and the first thing I’d

do is say as I reached up and straightened up their clothes: “Hey, who dressed you!”

They, of course, would

say, “Hey, bug off,…who are you, .. my Mother!” he he. That should have been my first clue. I was being the Mother, the Virgo Mother. But, when I

read about the Sun in Virgo that didn’t seem quite correct

either.

So, I moved onto the Leo

in my chart. In my Western chart I had only Mars in

Leo. And, I kind of liked the descriptions of Mars in Leo:

Strong, dynamic, enterprising. I even had many of these

qualities, but not belligerent, dictatorial.

Eventually, I read about

my Eastern chart. All my Virgo planets, Sun, Mercury and

Venus were supposed to move into Leo in my Jyotish chart. Wow, that’s a lot of Leo. I wonder if I have

any of these qualities. Then, I remembered, ever since I

was young I had business of my own.

When I was in high school

I had my own little lawn mowing business. Wow, I loved being

in business for myself. Now, that’s very symbolic of

the Sun in Leo. Sun in Virgo then, doesn’t seem to fit

me as well as the Sun in Leo.

But both systems do seem

to overlap so I couldn’t quite see the real difference until I read

about my Mars. In my Western chart my Mars was supposed to

be in Leo, while my Eastern chart has it moving into Cancer.

Of all the configurations

in my two charts this one is the clearest example of what is really

correct in my life. In my whole life, yes, I did have that

Leo side, but I was also slightly timid. I hated competing

against people and looking back now, I had a hard time standing up for

myself.

Now, that’s a

clearer description of my Mars in Cancer, and not in Leo. Other planets that shift dramatically are Jupiter, Moon, and my

Rising Sign. In my Western system my Jupiter moves into

Aries while it’s in Pisces in my Eastern chart. Not

only do I like my better Eastern Jupiter/Pisces but upon reflection it too

is more accurate.

Ever since I was young I

had a tremendous reflective and philosophical nature. I

loved talking about philosophy even before I ever hear the word. Also, I had a tremendous faith even though I liked to call myself a

doubting Thomas as well. Now, I understand these two

different qualities are due to my Jupiter in Pisces on the one hand and my

Moon in Virgo on the other.

Finally, I’d like to

say that the difference between a Scorpio and Libra rising is another

clear example of my Jyotish chart, fitting better. I have a

very obvious love of Libra harmony in my life. The qualities

and characteristics of Scorpio are not strong in me. Since

the Rising sign represents how we get along there’s too much of a

difference between Scorpio & Libra for me to think I could be a

Scorpio.

Also, if I had a Scorpio

rising and a Mars in Leo I’d be much more intense.

So, study both of your

Western and Eastern charts. Actually, first write down what

you know about yourself. Without thinking of your

Astrology, just write down what you already experience about

yourself. Then, when you read about both your Western and

Eastern; see which one of them fits you, best!

 

Best of West vs. East

 

So, when I reflect on what

I consider the best of the Western vs. Eastern systems I have to say I

believe the Eastern system of calculating the chart is superior. Though it’s fascinating to me how similar the two systems are

too. Now, see, that’s the Libra in me! He

he.

For example, both systems

believe in the basic idea of Astrology that our charts fit us! Both systems also believe in the same basic structure of the

Astrological chart. Both systems believe in

Planets in Signs and Planets in Houses. Both systems mostly

disagree as to how to calculate the Astrological chart.

There is one other

difference which I think is extremely important. The

Western system believes in free will and the ability to change and improve

one’s stars. The Eastern system tends to not. In the Eastern system you’ll read a lot more about the

pre-determined, fatalistic aspect of life. In the West

there’s much more of an emphasis on self-determination!

In the , for example, we

have an old adage. It goes like this: “Any young

person is free to become President!” This belief of

complete freedom and growth potential is peculiar to the West. In the East the emphasis has been on fate and pre-condition aspects.

In the West I believe the

system of calculating the exact Mathematics is incorrect. In

the Eastern system I believe the belief in fate is incorrect. So, if we take the best of the East and it’s more accurate

Mathematics and combine it with the best of the West and its belief in

progress and growth; then I believe we’ll come to a better

understanding as to Astrology.

See, in nature there

really is no Eastern or Western systems. There’s only

one nature’s Astrology. We should then be able to find

in nature a verification of which principles are correct. Let your own experiences be a guide to help you discover your truest Astrological nature.

 

 

End Part 1 Best of

West & East

 

I’m very interested

in hearing other people’s experiences as to their Western &

Eastern charts.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

To JoinOurForum:Subscribe: http://finance.tradingharmonically/

 

Bored stiff?

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Small Business.

 

 

 

 

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