2-Brazen lady: re... Why Saturn is so important 1/29

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Hello

Mark,

 

Just wanted to

comment on a few things from this one. Well, I must say, part two(Saturn

is Winter Part 2)definitely shed a little light on some

things....

Hi Amy: Glad to hear it. It's my

experience as well. Each 'day' that I understand Saturn or any of

the planets better, is a better day!

snip<we’re apt to be

prone to experiencing some of Saturn’s lessons> Yes, these I have been learning, and hopefully, we are

starting to get a long just a little better, now that we are slowly

reaching an understanding.

As

you may be realizing by now, Saturn in many situations is people's most

difficult planet.

There are a number of reasons for this. Partly it's

the age we live in. We definitely don't live in an age or time where

people teach us about how to get along better with the Saturn aspect of

life. As a result, Saturn continues being more negative then

it has to.

A

number of years ago, a book came out that definitely changed by habit of understanding Saturn. It was called " Saturn:

Friend of Foe " and this was the first time that I began

to think of Saturn differently. Since then, I've realized

that Saturn, like any planet is as positive or negative as we've learned

it. And, the times when we experience the negative sides of

Saturn or any planet are just Nature's way of showing how in-tune

we are with that planet. So, you learning to

understand and cooperate better with Saturn! is one of the most

significant things anyone can do in life! Be patient with

yourself though. And, even though money and job problems make

us crazy and make us nervous; still, Saturn represents how we need

to be more patient in life. Was thinking of you this morning

and thought in might be helpful to talk about one of the most

difficult situations regarding Saturn. You're, by the way going through one of Saturn's hardest

scenarios. When someone can't find work, and suffers

financial worries one's tendency is to work harder. And

though this may work sometimes, in most Saturn situations this only

makes it worse! So, if what we're going through is caused or

even complicated by an out of balance Saturn; then the way is not

through doing more, but by doing less. And, yet, we

don't feel we have the time or money to be patient. But, that

may be the only, real solution. It's like a person who's

facing demands and health challenges, and the tendency is to try and

work harder. But, if ill-health is our Saturn challenge, then

rest and recuperation is the

solution.

Especially if people don't have the

money or savings to rest, this may still be what they should be

doing. So, here gets to my point. If we need to

illicit a Saturn solution, and yet we don't have the financial

situation, (savings) to be patient; this is the real problem.

Like that, if we're unemployed and need to be resting or healing, we

still may not feel like doing the right thing because we don't have

the resources to do it!

So, what do we

do? Why is this even happening? This is one of

the reasons why people tend to think of Saturn as a negative or evil

planet! Seems hopeless. One of my Saturn ahas,

however, is even recessions, lossing one's job, being broke, all

these challenges are part of the need to grow in the inherent 'appreciation' of Saturn. One of the real benefits of going through such grevious

times, is it teaches us the importance of being better prepared. As it turns out there will always be down times. There

will always be times where recessions come and go. It's the

nature of life to have periods of up, or expansion, and then,

periods of down. So, the solution is not to expect otherwise,

but be better prepared so

that next time, we don't suffer so severely, during the next Saturn

moment!

 

 

snip<all kinds of weird and

undesirable intellectual and communicative glitches happen during

Mercury’s retrograde> this one, I can definitely just about always sense,

without even looking to see if Mercury is retrograde.

You

make a great point here, that we can get used to feeling the Planets. And, once you get good at feeling them, you'll be more prone to

understanding them, and adjusting better to their inherent meanings for

us.

 

snip<having spent the last 2

½ years or so in Cancer> Hmmm... now that is interesting.

Let's see, about 2 1/2 years ago is when my little brother almost

died, and at the same time I was starting building my house, which I moved

into that fall. Yes, my little brother is doing fantastic

now, but he did have complications and had to have a second heart surgery.

But it does seem that every since I moved into my house, things have

progressed down-hill... many clashes with the boss during that time (who

built my house), financial end was great then, though, boss started

wanting me to do some bookkeeping directly against the rules

which lead me to leave my job this past spring as a means of

self-preservation; I haven't worked all these years and furthered my

education in accounting to lose it all because of an unscrupulous

employer. Then the car accident, lots of family turmoil between my mother

and her sisters. However, since then I haven't been able to find a

job since then, and now the financial end is definitely suffering (and

that's just some of the " flavorings " of the past 2 1/2

years!). And for some reason, I'm the one my parents are leaning on

for support and to be their rock!

Yes, all manner of grief can come to

us during Saturn times! Unfortunately, people tend to take

these as indicative of something fated. Saturn periods are

meant to be adjusted to. So, if we're experiencing some

Saturn health complaints coming at a specific time; these are not just

about our negative, malefic, or bad karma. No, these are meant to be

adjusted to. Disease or dis-ease are both Saturn signs of

imbalance. In the same way that accidents are the sign of

Mars imbalance; grief, and losses, or ill-health or some of the

signs of Saturn imbalance. Next time, or even now, as you

experience 'any' Saturn symptoms; #1 Acknowledge 'ahhhh', this may

be a Saturn moment. And #2 Adjust differently. So, like

when we're having minor accidents; stubing or toe, banking our

elbow, or slipping and slidding, we should take these as Mars signs,

and adjust appropriately. When we experience negative

Mars experiences; what we should be doing is adjusting our Mars intensity

or speed. In terms of accidents it's pretty easy. We

just go slower. In the case of Saturn it's slightly

more involved. So, we experience imbalance, feeling

distressed, or delays; we do the same thing. In this case, we

#1 Identify Saturn as the likely planet involved. And #2 we

assume a typical Saturn solution! For Saturn we also may need

to slow down. For Saturn we may need to get more rest. For

Saturn we may need to meditate more, because meditation enlivens the inner

quality of dynamic silence, which can be lived along with activity.

And this takes some time. Saturn silence and the

accompanying Integration that needs to go with it, is one of

Saturn's greatest benefits. First, however, we have to hear

of a different way. Then, we need to experience that life

goes better with more inner quietness.

 

snip<get ready for another

Saturn in Cancer moment> Great, I feel so much better now, especially

after looking back over the past 2 1/2 years...

The duration of Saturn ness, should not freak us out.

If the weather man says it's going to be raining for 3 days we know

there will be an end. Like that, we don't have to freak out

if the duration is longer. What we need

to realize is that Saturn moments are the greatest opportunities for

wildly important Saturn growth.

If we don't accept the fact that vibrations of Saturn may

be going on for a particular time, then we may make things even worse. We don't however have the right perspective, because we keep

thinking we've got to be doing this or that. The real things we're supposed to be doing are healing and

growing within Saturn, during such periods. It's really a great kindness to know they may be of a

certain duration. Imagine how I freaked out after I started

my 18 year Saturn period in 1991. I had just entered my Saturn Maha

dasa period. With Saturn in my 12th House I thought I was

ready for some Saturn bumps. But, nothing I'd studied had prepared

me for the all pervasive Saturn grief that I was about to be going

through. Immediately, I couldn't find any work. I'd

just started a new marriage, and we had NO money. We finally found

some work, (in my field), though it was in another state. We had to

borrow the money just to get there. Over the next 2 years, we

continued suffering, bills were high, and finally after about 5

years my wife and I split up, got divorced, went bankrupt, and my dad

dies; all within the first 5 years of Saturn Mahadasa. I was

freaking out. Now, I realize because I thought this might be going

on for another 13 years! But, I'd been studying Jyotish for a

few years now, (since 1988),so I had some hope, just because I at least

knew the reason. I even remember turning to Saturn and saying:

" Why are you doing this to me? I

thought I was in-tune with

you! "

If you've never heard 'God' laugh at you, you may not

appreciate this; but that's what Saturn

did.... He laughed! Big, long,

2 minutes of big, belly laughter, on and on. I was so

embarassed, hehe. However, after it began to subsist I was

transformed and said: " Okay, if

I'm not in-tune yet, what should I do, now? " Saturn said only 2 words to

me:

" More...silence.............

more......silence........ "

And that began my real study and understanding of

Saturn. I didn't care what I had to do. I was

resolved to do whatever I had to do, to gain more peace with Saturn.

I had had it, regarding suffering, and now, I was ready to

learn. Over the next few years I learned many things.

I learned how in my chart, I really never appreciated the

importance of saving money. Actually, I'd sort of

learned this 10 years earlier, after my first marriage, divorce and

bankrupacy. I remember looking back, and thinking I'd made a

resolution to never get married again until I had 6,000$ saved. After starting my first marriage with no money, that was a huge

improvement. Then, I came across my financial receipts and found

that I had 6,500$ saved at the start of my 2nd marriage. And that 2nd adventure was so much more positive and powerful as a

result. But, now, I realized I still had to understand Saturn

more. Now, I realized it's not enough for just me, to understand

that I, (and my chart), need's to save money more. I now, realized

that any of my partners, also have to be more saving oriented. Anyway, long story, but suffice it to say what began as a deep anxiety

of 13 more years of Saturn grief; quickly became my happiest period

in my life because I learned to grow within Saturn's nature.

Like that we're all meant to climb out of the Saturn holes we've created

for ourselves. And, as we do this, we'll learn that Saturn's

challenges can be turned around

snip<Saturn will finally

leave Cancer on July 15th, 2007! So, if you’ve noticed feeling

more uncharacteristicall y delayed and disappointed since Saturn started

going Retrograde, then take heart that this is the reason!> Yes, this is exactly what has been

going on with the job situation, however, I will have to find a remedy for

this LONG before July! As I stated, I've had enough stillness and silence

to last me a lifetime!

Again,

identifying the Saturn flavor helps us realize the Saturn weather pattern

that we're in. I'll bet one thing, however. Next time

you finally land a job, you're going to be more apt to put some

important financial nest eggs away, for the next rainy days!

I'll end by saying, you've just begun to experience

more stillness and silence. The dire

necessity for finding and unfolding, deeper and vital layers of Saturn

silence; are crucial for life! No one's told us about this,

however. We don't realize that rest is the basis of

activity. Certainly no one has ever told us that dynamic

inner silence is the key to dynamic outer health! We

instead, crave activity, doing and staying busy. Someday, we'll realize that doing less, and beging still;

and unfolding deeper and deeper qualities of Saturn silence is one of

life's most important

goals!

 

Yes, the past 2 1/2 years have been

quite eventful for me, and looking back over some of the major events

then, it has been quite enlightening. However, as I said, a few more

months like the past 2 1/2 years and I'll be in the looney bin!

Exactly, why we need to

psyche out Saturn's requirements; now!

 

Brazen Lady

May we

all continue growing in Saturn's great nature and power, for all good, and

even achievement in life.

take

care Mark

 

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