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Hi All,

 

One important thing I have not seen mentioned here re: the placement of

Saturn in Leo or any planet in a natal or transit chart is that a

planet's true strength is seen in its Navamsa. The expression used in

Vedic astrology is " Grahanam Amsakam Balam, " which translates as " the

real strength of a planet is to be assessed from its Navamsa. "

Therefore, the Navamsa shows the key to the strength of a planet or its

innate abilities. The Navamsa and D-9 chart also reveal the potential

for evolutionary development of the planets and the chart as a whole.

So, even though Saturn is not considered to be well placed in the sign

of its enemy Leo, we should take into account the Navamsa position of

this placement to fine tune its strength and capabilities.

 

The most important varga/division after the Rasi, the Navamsa is the

one-ninth division of a sign. Each sign is divided into nine divisions

of 3°20´ each. The first 1/9 of a sign is governed by the Cardinal sign

of that element, followed by the remaining signs in order through the

zodiac. In this way, for example, the first 1/9 of Leo (Fixed Fire)

will be Aries (Cardinal Fire), the second 1/9 is Taurus, the third is

Gemini, and so on as follows:

0-3°20´ Aries Navamsa

3°20´-6°40´ Taurus Navamsa

6°40´-10° Gemini Navamsa

10°-13°20´ Cancer Navamsa

13°20´-16°40´ Leo Navamsa (Vargottama)

16°40´-20° Virgo Navamsa

20°-23°20´ Libra Navamsa

23°20´-26°40´ Scorpio Navamsa

26°40´-30° Sagittarius Navamsa

 

Note for all Fixed signs-Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius-the middle

13°20´-16°40´ will always be Vargottama, literally, " in the best

subdivision, " wherein the planet is supposed to function in a more

positive way.

 

Re: the transit of Saturn in Leo, we can see that the first 3°20´ of

Saturn's transit in Leo may be a time fraught with difficulties and

challenges, as Saturn will not only be traveling in an unfriendly

constellation but will also be Gandanta (at the edge of Cancer and Leo)

and in its debilitated Navamsa of Aries. Saturn might be less malefic

in the Navamsas of its friends, in Gemini, Taurus, Virgo and Libra, and

whether or not it is less malefic in its Vargottoma position, I am not

sure. Complicating the transit of Saturn in Leo will be the conjunction

of Saturn and Ketu (in 2007-2008), which is a combination that can set

of long-term conflicts. In natal charts, Saturn in Leo in a friendly

Navamsa is not as problematical as Saturn in Leo in an unfriendly

Navamsa.

 

Best,

Juliana S.

 

, " Rev. Alice Miller "

<astrominister1 wrote:

>

> A major meaning of Saturn is that, by sign, it describes our limits--

as

> in what limits us? Saturn in Leo is limited by roles, especially

> inherited roles. So it might allow you to fit into your local society

> very well, but make your soul feel terribly inhibited.

>

> Alice Miller

> www.lifeprintastrology.com <www.lifeprintastrology.com>

>

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Another thing that should be kept in mind

in assessing the strength of a planet in a natal (or navamsa) chart is the sign

occupied by the dispositor.  For example, if the Moon is in it’s fall in

Scorpio and Mars is in it’s exaltation I Capricorn, and esp. if it’s

in a fairly strong position (cusp of an angle or trine house), it at least

partially redeems the Moon. I suppose that if the dispositor is in the sign of

its rulership it would help to some extent, too.

 

 

Bettina

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of jai.ma

Saturday, December 16, 2006

5:18 AM

To:

 

Re:

Saturn in Leo in transit and in birth chart

 

 

 

 

 

Hi All,

 

One important thing I have not seen mentioned here re: the placement of

Saturn in Leo or any planet in a natal or transit chart is that a

planet's true strength is seen in its Navamsa. The expression used in

Vedic astrology is " Grahanam Amsakam Balam, " which translates as

" the

real strength of a planet is to be assessed from its Navamsa. "

Therefore, the Navamsa shows the key to the strength of a planet or its

innate abilities. The Navamsa and D-9 chart also reveal the potential

for evolutionary development of the planets and the chart as a whole.

So, even though Saturn is not considered to be well placed in the sign

of its enemy Leo, we should take into account the Navamsa position of

this placement to fine tune its strength and capabilities.

 

The most important varga/division after the Rasi, the Navamsa is the

one-ninth division of a sign. Each sign is divided into nine divisions

of 3°20´ each. The first 1/9 of a sign is governed by the Cardinal sign

of that element, followed by the remaining signs in order through the

zodiac. In this way, for example, the first 1/9 of Leo (Fixed Fire)

will be Aries (Cardinal Fire), the second 1/9 is Taurus, the third is

Gemini, and so on as follows:

0-3°20´ Aries Navamsa

3°20´-6°40´ Taurus Navamsa

6°40´-10° Gemini Navamsa

10°-13°20´ Cancer Navamsa

13°20´-16°40´ Leo Navamsa (Vargottama)

16°40´-20° Virgo Navamsa

20°-23°20´ Libra Navamsa

23°20´-26°40´ Scorpio Navamsa

26°40´-30° Sagittarius Navamsa

 

Note for all Fixed signs-Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius-the middle

13°20´-16°40´ will always be Vargottama, literally, " in the best

subdivision, " wherein the planet is supposed to function in a more

positive way.

 

Re: the transit of Saturn in Leo, we can see that the first 3°20´ of

Saturn's transit in Leo may be a time fraught with difficulties and

challenges, as Saturn will not only be traveling in an unfriendly

constellation but will also be Gandanta (at the edge of Cancer and Leo)

and in its debilitated Navamsa of Aries. Saturn might be less malefic

in the Navamsas of its friends, in Gemini, Taurus, Virgo and Libra, and

whether or not it is less malefic in its Vargottoma position, I am not

sure. Complicating the transit of Saturn in Leo will be the conjunction

of Saturn and Ketu (in 2007-2008), which is a combination that can set

of long-term conflicts. In natal charts, Saturn in Leo in a friendly

Navamsa is not as problematical as Saturn in Leo in an unfriendly

Navamsa.

 

Best,

Juliana S.

 

,

" Rev. Alice Miller "

<astrominister1 wrote:

>

> A major meaning of Saturn is that, by sign, it describes our limits--

as

> in what limits us? Saturn in Leo is limited by roles, especially

> inherited roles. So it might allow you to fit into your local society

> very well, but make your soul feel terribly inhibited.

>

> Alice Miller

> www.lifeprintastrology.com <www.lifeprintastrology.com>

>

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Good point, Bettina...and in fact, in Vedic astrology, for planets in

neecha/debilitation (in Western astrology this translates as planets

in their " fall " , like Moon in Scorpio and Saturn in Aries), a well-

placed dispositor is one possible factor of cancellation, so it makes

sense that this same rule should apply to planets in their Detriment

(like Saturn in Cancer and Leo). Thanks...

 

, " Bettina Woolard "

<chiria wrote:

>

> Another thing that should be kept in mind in assessing the strength

of a

> planet in a natal (or navamsa) chart is the sign occupied by the

dispositor.

> For example, if the Moon is in it's fall in Scorpio and Mars is in

it's

> exaltation I Capricorn, and esp. if it's in a fairly strong

position (cusp

> of an angle or trine house), it at least partially redeems the

Moon. I

> suppose that if the dispositor is in the sign of its rulership it

would help

> to some extent, too.

>

>

>

>

>

> Bettina

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of jai.ma

> Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:18 AM

>

> Re: Saturn in Leo in transit and in

birth chart

>

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> One important thing I have not seen mentioned here re: the

placement of

> Saturn in Leo or any planet in a natal or transit chart is that a

> planet's true strength is seen in its Navamsa. The expression used

in

> Vedic astrology is " Grahanam Amsakam Balam, " which translates

as " the

> real strength of a planet is to be assessed from its Navamsa. "

> Therefore, the Navamsa shows the key to the strength of a planet or

its

> innate abilities. The Navamsa and D-9 chart also reveal the

potential

> for evolutionary development of the planets and the chart as a

whole.

> So, even though Saturn is not considered to be well placed in the

sign

> of its enemy Leo, we should take into account the Navamsa position

of

> this placement to fine tune its strength and capabilities.

>

> The most important varga/division after the Rasi, the Navamsa is

the

> one-ninth division of a sign. Each sign is divided into nine

divisions

> of 3°20´ each. The first 1/9 of a sign is governed by the Cardinal

sign

> of that element, followed by the remaining signs in order through

the

> zodiac. In this way, for example, the first 1/9 of Leo (Fixed Fire)

> will be Aries (Cardinal Fire), the second 1/9 is Taurus, the third

is

> Gemini, and so on as follows:

> 0-3°20´ Aries Navamsa

> 3°20´-6°40´ Taurus Navamsa

> 6°40´-10° Gemini Navamsa

> 10°-13°20´ Cancer Navamsa

> 13°20´-16°40´ Leo Navamsa (Vargottama)

> 16°40´-20° Virgo Navamsa

> 20°-23°20´ Libra Navamsa

> 23°20´-26°40´ Scorpio Navamsa

> 26°40´-30° Sagittarius Navamsa

>

> Note for all Fixed signs-Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius-the

middle

> 13°20´-16°40´ will always be Vargottama, literally, " in the best

> subdivision, " wherein the planet is supposed to function in a more

> positive way.

>

> Re: the transit of Saturn in Leo, we can see that the first 3°20´

of

> Saturn's transit in Leo may be a time fraught with difficulties and

> challenges, as Saturn will not only be traveling in an unfriendly

> constellation but will also be Gandanta (at the edge of Cancer and

Leo)

> and in its debilitated Navamsa of Aries. Saturn might be less

malefic

> in the Navamsas of its friends, in Gemini, Taurus, Virgo and Libra,

and

> whether or not it is less malefic in its Vargottoma position, I am

not

> sure. Complicating the transit of Saturn in Leo will be the

conjunction

> of Saturn and Ketu (in 2007-2008), which is a combination that can

set

> of long-term conflicts. In natal charts, Saturn in Leo in a

friendly

> Navamsa is not as problematical as Saturn in Leo in an unfriendly

> Navamsa.

>

> Best,

> Juliana S.

>

> @ <%40>

> , " Rev. Alice Miller "

> <astrominister1@> wrote:

> >

> > A major meaning of Saturn is that, by sign, it describes our

limits--

> as

> > in what limits us? Saturn in Leo is limited by roles, especially

> > inherited roles. So it might allow you to fit into your local

society

> > very well, but make your soul feel terribly inhibited.

> >

> > Alice Miller

> > www.lifeprintastrology.com <www.lifeprintastrology.com>

> >

>

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