2-Bob Astrology and Happiness 12/1

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Mark:Interesting thought, about happiness being due to

the moon. I think you're right. Although i follow Greek rather than

Hindu astrology, the astrology i do is very influenced by the Vedic stuff

i've read, in particular the importance of the lunar nodes and lunar stuff

generally. Hi Bob: Well, one of

the greatest things I've learned in the 'field of Astrology' itself, is

thereis no real Western, Eastern Jewish, Chinese, or Greek. As

you say " influenced by te Vedicstuff " , but what I've

experienced is there is a " REAL " Astrology which is out there,

in Naturewhich is already happening and existing in our bodies, our

speech, and in our genes!the moon is our moods, and

certainly happiness is a mood. Well, in

most Astrology's I've read the Moon represents the " container of the

Mind " , which like our Physical Moon, receives the light and energy of

the Sun, and with that creates ourtides, and even weather

patterns.In our lives, our Mind's are really nothing but an

empty container though which the lightand energy of the Sun, soul,

floods into our experience. " Happiness " , then is when

the Mind wakes up to it's full relationship with spirit.Happiness is not really a mood of mind, because the mind is always

changeing, like thePhysical Moon. Therefore true and lasting

Happinesss can not be in the Moon alone, butin the Self, Sun which

is the true source of all happiness.Those who plummet into the

full potential of the Sun, spirit Self, find pure bliss and trueHappiness!I'm experiencing something like that

now in my own life, I'm in recovery from my Saturn return which wiped me

out financially this year (not bankrupt since I have no debts, but

broke).Then, we reflect on the meanins

of each of the Planets. Poor Saturn, he has such a bad,terrible reputation. I think of Saturn as the opposite of

Jupiter. And, if Jupiter is the right hand that refects the Guru reaching down and picking us up; Saturn is the left-hand of God

that slaps us downONLY if we've been out of balance.My

own experience confirms that Saturn represents balance and pure silence

and stillnessand if we have enough of that, then we feel happy and

joyful.But, because most of us are not in tune enough with

Saturn, then it's returns, it's Dasa timeperiods and Transits are of

the negative or what Jyotish calls Malefic variety.Because

once 'we' learn to be more in-tune with Saturn, then it's movements, it's

effects,even it's long, lenghty returns like Sade Sat when Saturn

returns to where the Moon was in our birth chart's; even these become

opportunities for deeper inward experience anddevelopment.This is why theoretically we loose things, money, jobs, houses,

relationships, so un fetteredwith all that, we can get back to a

simpler, purer existence which Satiurn rules.Saturn rules pure

silent bliss, eternal and immortal and it's function is to help us find

that! And I know (am channeling) it's a lesson in

learning to be joyous no matter what is happening outside you. e..g my

customary mood of oppression (natal sun conjunct Saturn - Pluto opposed

moon: the sense that you are walking through life with 50-lb. weights

fastened to each foot, that nothing you do is rewarded, that all

expectations are dashed etc.) is being replaced at this time by a

lightness I've never felt before ... like " Whoopee, who gives a

damn, I'm just going to feel good! " This is a beautiful experience of the liberating, even

expansive effect of Saturn, which oncewe let go and surrencer,

accept, then bliss comes!Congrats.... Be nice if this mood is permanent. but I agree it's the moon which

informs our customary moods.

 

xoxo,

Bobfun talking with you.Mark Kincaidps... Did you ever send in your date of

birth info, so I can look at your chart. Would be happyto reflect with you on some of your Jyotish symbolisms if you'd

like...ciaomarkkincaid wrote:

 

 

 

It's because happiness is matter of losing one's expectations, not

fulfilling expectations. That's why the dirt-poor Mayan Indians of

Guatemala are happier than wealthy Americans.

 

Mark: to test a theory (about the value of planetary hours) I need to

know the dates, times and places when winning lottery tickets were

purchased (not the data of the purchaser). Do you know where I can find same?

 

-BobDear Bob: I think Astrology

also has something profound to tell us about 'Happiness'.According to Astrology, Happiness is due to the Moon. In other words

happiness is a stateof mind, not a state of money.Money

karma is another area of our Astrology and there are plenty of examples of

thosewho have lots of money and they don't have much real, true,

inner happiness!Sorry, don't know any data of the winning

lottery tickets.Mark K.

 

 

 

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