Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 2-Janna re. upcoming shift of Saturn into Leo 10/6 MK Mark, What do you mean by saying that Saturn in Cancer and Saturn in Leo are the most difficult transits? Hi Janna: Sorry, it's taken me so long to get back with you. I've been absolutely swamped this last month. Anyway some thoughts for you..... I meant to say Saturn is difficult in Cancer and Leo for a variety of reasons. Saturn tends to mean: "lessons" so when it's in any sign it often means less of... So, lesson of Saturn in Aries....means lesson of doing too much.... being too active, (Aries) ish.... and that's why Saturn is thought to be the worst in Aries. Since I have Saturn in Cancer nataly Saturn in Cancer often means "lessons" to over-giving. Cancer often means giving, so Saturn in Cancer sometimes means lessons of over-Cancer giving. Are you a giver,... do you see maybe sometimes you give so much that you get tired.... Annnnnd, do you sometimes notice that you don't give enough to yourself? That's sometimes part of the symbolism of Saturn in Cancer, not giving enough to oneself? and Saturn is currently on my asc (through May 2007), I am concerned about what to expect with Saturn in Leo (my second house) since Saturn in Cancer has been difficult and has seemed to be a "karmic completion" Yes I found many, many people had great difficulty with Saturn in Cancer. I was lucky however, because having watched it now everyday for over 15 years, and especially watching it go througgh my Chart's Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces, Aries, Taurus, Gemini, and then Cancer. I had this beautiful experience of watching Saturn go into my 10th house and Cancer, 2 1/2 years ago, and I experienced literally a huge bloder moving into my 10th House. Later I realized that was a clear sign that Saturn was going to be acting malefically, so I surrendered even more deeply....to it.. After a few weeks I noticed that same boulder had become a "portal" into the absolute.. and realized that Saturn is there to help us find more infinite silence...in every part of our chart, or every part of our life... of the past thirty years, but what is the karmic payback? Karma of Saturn either is malefic or benefic. If we're experiencing any of the negatives of Saturn, from tiredness, to stress, to grief, delays, frustrations, or losses.... then Saturn is saying... more...of me! If however, we experience the positive side of Saturn then those signs will be deep wellness, silence, bliss and support of nature,..... Your statement from the newsletter: "Already we can feel the headache and karmic pay back that's going to be the malefic side of Saturn in Leo, coming up." I meant for the World here. Already as the Sun began to move in all kinds of negative grief started to come to the Leaders of Government. What will be the malefic effects of Saturn in Leo? Again, following the rule of thumb regarding Saturn meaning: "lessons" means lessons of Leoness. So, challenges of lack of self-esteem or lessons of arrogance or ego are the 2 extremes of Leo ness. What do you mean by "karmic payback?" How will this impact specific signs and ascendants? I will look forward to your showing what the effects of Saturn in Leo will be according to Asc, Moon, and Sun signs if you're planning an article. Thanks, I will continue writing about Saturn in Leo. I'm reposting the question here but am confused since there are 2 Nature's astrology groups. Hope this is the right one Yes, this is the right one. The other one is for those who only wanted to "receive" my Transit newsletters and not a lot of other correspondence. Janna take care, Mark Kincaid Dear Janna: Greetings! I have had plans to create an article about the possible affects of Sani's shift into Leo, soon. Sorry if I scared you, it's just that Saturn's movements every 30 years, through Cancer and Leo are two of Sani's worse transits, for many people. Mark PS... are you on my nature's astrology group too? That's my main group for the transits. I don't generally send out transits to this the Stars Within unless people send me questions. That other one's at: , markkincaid wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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