6#Re:Jupiter +Ketu Affect general consireation to find strength

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Hi, 1)Planet lording what houses. 2)Planets in that sign. 3)Aspect from other planet to that house 4)Relationship with aspected planets 5)Karaka for that house and strenght of that planet. 6)See for above 5 in Navamsa too. 7)Current runing transit. 8)Current runing dasa. I hope i am not missing anything in above list. gulabo_jain <gulabo_jain wrote: Thank you for the reply.How do one find affliction of a planet or the house......As you mentioned below "In a bad scenario" how do I know whether it is good a bad...Always had difficulty understanding that.Gulabo , Shripal <d_shripal>

wrote:>> Jai Jinendra,> > Jupiter in 4th with Ketu in moon sign.In bad scenario You are too attached and egoistic with your born place or motherland.The individual can give a detailed and honest appraisal of commonly accepted values.Obstruction in higher education and disagreement with prevailing religious intitution.> > Difficulty settling in abroad,delays and problems related to foreign land or from foreign land.Individual is either at one extreme or other, never on compromise terms or middle path.Legal problems wiith parents.If too afflicted loss of mother or seperation from mother.> > It gives good love of nature.I would suggest don't be too philosophical about your own needs and ideas, listen to others, analyse and than act.Spiritual is good for you and adhere to that, as if you will run

after material benefits, only grief iwll come in term of wealth,home etc etc.Don't expect to much.Don't doubt yourself much.> > gulabo_jain <gulabo_jain> wrote:> , Shripal <d_shripal> > wrote:> >But what if moon , jupiter and ketu are together in the 4th house > and ketu is exalted in the chart.> > > thanks> > gulabo> > > Jai Jinendra All,> > > > Just to add effects of Ketu + Moon conjunction in chart.As I > have one.> > Neglecting in which sign conjuction has taken, just considering > general theme of Moon + Ketu Conjunction, Moon is > Mind,emotions,mother etc etc, while Ketu is an Obligations to > affairs,bindings,restrictions etc etc, depends upon which house it > is in.>

> It always hypers a situation, good becomes toooooooo good and > Bad becomes too bad.That's naturality of Ketu.> > > > In bad aspect or bad house Moon + Conjuction conjuction creates > a bad timing for a individual in Life to execute,circumstantially > imposed inability to be in the right place at the right time, doing > the right thing in the right way, bad luck. Individual is > emotionally alone in a world or isolated against the world.It is > karmic debt that is created because of misuse of wealth,popularity > and position.> > > > They are too connected to Mother or Woman in general.In good > house a individual gets lots of help from mother or Woman > emotionally,in money matters etc etc.Else emotionally depressed all > the time, diffcult in relationship with mother or any woman.They

are > scared of crowd or to go in public or to do anything in public.> > > > They like to me in shell, rather than come out and fight.If > other things are not favourable in chart and conjuction is showing > very prominent effect, than above mentioned things are bound to > happen.> > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote:> > Dear Sastry garu,> > In our jyotish about nodes our peers are very inconsistent as > rahu-ketu have no independent existence.So the yogas if the give > with conjunction,aspect or association have relevance only to the > strengthen or weaken specific planet in a sign.> > Also moon alone any where in a sign is not good and if ketu a > tail that acts like mars is associated some vascilation that > ususally a weak exhibits will

get reduced.Grahana or eclipse is also > to be viewed from longitudes of the ketu and moon attained.if they > are away by more than 10 degrees moon has no problem.But the > karakatwas of moon like didorders in blood and B.P along with > mother's state of health which are jeev related issues get > influenced but nirjeev like moeny,materials acqusitions > improve.grahan yog cauased by nodes in lagna have more impact than > with moon.Moon in fact becomes more stable with ketu though some > rashness and haste may be there.ketu like mars energises the moon > and gives a rough edge and authority.> > krishnan> > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote:> > dear krishnan garu> > > > in your analysis you mentioned "moon with ketu gives authority and > > headship"> > > > since rahu and

ketu are only shadow planets and malefics, in the > > original samhitas, no conjunction (yuti) results or yogas with > these > > two nodes were mentioned. > > > > since sun is eclipsed by rahu and moon is eclipsed by ketu, if in > a > > chart sun+rahu or moon+ketu combination is found, it is understood > > as "grahan yoga" in which case the sun and moon would become weak > > irrepsective of the sign, bhava or their strength (even exalted). > > some researchers published that if rahu or ketu is with sun or > moon > > or if rahu or ketu is in sun or moon's signs then the grahan yoga > is > > formed and even the house in which this grahan yoga is formed is > > spoilt because of that.> > > > i am aware of the results of all planetary conjuntions with these > > two nodes but sun+rahu and

moon+ketu are different. since i am > > preaching and practicing this "grahan" principle based on my > > experience and finding it true, please correct me if i am wrong > > about this grahan yoga weakening sun and moon.> > > > i have highest regard for you as my fraternal brother and these > > doubts are only for self explanation.> > > > with best wishes and regards> > arjun> > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friend,> > > In any body's house 8th house plays a vital role.it enhnaces > > knowledge and destroys life.It is 2nd to 7th and 12th to 9th.Also > > 3rd to 6th in bhavat bhava.it is a secret house.For a lady it is > her > > fortune and 8th is also ayush.> >

> combination of saturn,mars and venus in 8th:it also give a > > > rajyoga .?? am i thinking in the right direction ,i mean which > way > > should > > > If a fiery planet joins a cold planet like saturn and > venus ,the > > enrgy that is internal to any body feels discomfort with female > > planet like venus and neutral planet like saturn.Saturn is > practical > > planet and has no barriers and reservations.> > > i look at this combination ,as it is the 8th house,which is > > condiered as > > > neechhouse:may be malefic but house for longevity.saturn's own > > house.Industry,hardwork and hardships on several counts.It matters > > what sign it represents.> > > krishnan> > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@g...>

wrote:> > > Dear Krishnan ji,> > > > > > I did not understand one thing> > > > > > "with 8th beeing strong she needs lot of stimulation to please > her > > variety> > > of her desires.it is inevitable she prefers new kind and > > unorthodoxical> > > pleasures and liasions"> > > > > > DOes the above mean that the combination of Sani , mangal and > > venus , give a> > > flirtious nature (Affairs, or illicit affair ) ,but , it also > give > > a raj> > > yoga .?? am i thinking in the right direction ,i mean which way > > should i> > > look at this combination ,as it is the 8th house,which is > > condiered as neech> > > house> > > > > > Yes her husband works in the goverment , and has features of >

Sun , > > like he> > > is tall , and is Director of a Project in the goverment.> > > > > > My ex boss has a solid personality , and i would not say she is > > beatiful> > > but she has alot of likes and dislikes.and all the indication of > > venus> > > > > > Rite now she is facing problems from her boss , who is giving > her > > problems> > > left and rite so she was afraid .> > > > > > thnaking you> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Prashu> > > > > > > > > On 1/9/06, vattem krishnan wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Prashant,> > > > Your boss lagna is libra with lagna lord in 8th, own sign and > > earthy and> > > > fixed.in nature.> > > > very

important Sun as lagna also is very well placed in > > exaltation in 7th> > > > in a fiery sign.where as moon sign is cancer with ketu in > > pushyami> > > > nakshtra lord of which is saturn.moon as atmakarak in own sign > > in 4th pada> > > > of mercury's Aslesha.your boss has a magnetic,sensual and > easily > > amenable> > > > nature,.As lona as pleased she is good.otherwise she can be > real> > > > problem.children /progeny is an issue as moon is > > afflicted.However in 10th> > > > in artha bhava,will have prosperity.moon with ketu gives > > authority and> > > > headship as royal planet.otherwise life is with problem.7th > sun > > will have> > > > real hardships from spouse as due to temperment and > > aggressivenes.she need> > > > to

mellow down.Dasa lord in 10th will help her to sail through > in> > > > career.with 8th beeing strong she needs lot of stimulation to > > please her> > > > variety of her desires.it is inevitable she prefers new kind > and> > > > unorthodoxical pleasures and liasions.children with medical > > advice can> > > > hope for a boy may be in this year it self.> > > > krishnan> > > >> > > > prashant37 > > > wrote:> > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > I want to known effects of moom+ketu in the ten with moon > > mahadasa,> > > > how would the carrer be affected??> > > >> > > > 2)also i have read that combination of mangal and sani = raj > > yoga ,> > > > does it apply in this case too becuase it is

in the 8th house> > > >> > > > 3)third i have also read that combination of mangal rahu, and > > venus> > > > gives a tendency of flirting , but in this case only venue and> > > > mangal are present , and saturn takes or acts as rahu then > does > > the> > > > same rule applies????> > > >> > > >> > > > b date:22nd april 1972> > > > b time:5:00pm evening> > > >> > > > b place:Brisbane.> > > >> > > > the Above chart is of my ex Boss , she is a very nice lady , > and> > > > have helped me a lot ,i respect her , and would like to known > u > > guys> > > > opinion .> > > >> > > > She is married , but no children , they are trying .> > >

>> > > > She is rite now facnig some problems in her job area some > > opposition> > > > actually> > > >> > > >> > > > thanking you> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Prashu> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > RELISH THE> > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

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Maybe strength of the planet is necessary in the list

as well?

 

--- Shripal <d_shripal wrote:

 

> Hi,

>

> 1)Planet lording what houses.

> 2)Planets in that sign.

> 3)Aspect from other planet to that house

> 4)Relationship with aspected planets

> 5)Karaka for that house and strenght of that

> planet.

> 6)See for above 5 in Navamsa too.

> 7)Current runing transit.

> 8)Current runing dasa.

>

> I hope i am not missing anything in above list.

>

> gulabo_jain <gulabo_jain wrote:

> Thank you for the reply.

>

> How do one find affliction of a planet or the

> house......

> As you mentioned below " In a bad scenario " how do I

> know whether it

> is good a bad...

>

> Always had difficulty understanding that.

>

> Gulabo

>

> , Shripal

> <d_shripal>

> wrote:

> >

> > Jai Jinendra,

> >

> > Jupiter in 4th with Ketu in moon sign.In bad

> scenario You are

> too attached and egoistic with your born place or

> motherland.The

> individual can give a detailed and honest appraisal

> of commonly

> accepted values.Obstruction in higher education and

> disagreement

> with prevailing religious intitution.

> >

> > Difficulty settling in abroad,delays and

> problems related to

> foreign land or from foreign land.Individual is

> either at one

> extreme or other, never on compromise terms or

> middle path.Legal

> problems wiith parents.If too afflicted loss of

> mother or seperation

> from mother.

> >

> > It gives good love of nature.I would suggest

> don't be too

> philosophical about your own needs and ideas, listen

> to others,

> analyse and than act.Spiritual is good for you and

> adhere to that,

> as if you will run after material benefits, only

> grief iwll come in

> term of wealth,home etc etc.Don't expect to

> much.Don't doubt

> yourself much.

> >

> > gulabo_jain <gulabo_jain> wrote:

> > , Shripal

>

> <d_shripal>

> > wrote:

> > >But what if moon , jupiter and ketu are together

> in the 4th house

> > and ketu is exalted in the chart.

> >

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > gulabo

> >

> > > Jai Jinendra All,

> > >

> > > Just to add effects of Ketu + Moon conjunction

> in chart.As I

> > have one.

> > > Neglecting in which sign conjuction has taken,

> just

> considering

> > general theme of Moon + Ketu Conjunction, Moon is

> > Mind,emotions,mother etc etc, while Ketu is an

> Obligations to

> > affairs,bindings,restrictions etc etc, depends

> upon which house it

> > is in.

> > > It always hypers a situation, good becomes

> toooooooo good and

> > Bad becomes too bad.That's naturality of Ketu.

> > >

> > > In bad aspect or bad house Moon + Conjuction

> conjuction

> creates

> > a bad timing for a individual in Life to

> execute,circumstantially

> > imposed inability to be in the right place at the

> right time,

> doing

> > the right thing in the right way, bad luck.

> Individual is

> > emotionally alone in a world or isolated against

> the world.It is

> > karmic debt that is created because of misuse of

> wealth,popularity

> > and position.

> > >

> > > They are too connected to Mother or Woman in

> general.In good

> > house a individual gets lots of help from mother

> or Woman

> > emotionally,in money matters etc etc.Else

> emotionally depressed

> all

> > the time, diffcult in relationship with mother or

> any woman.They

> are

> > scared of crowd or to go in public or to do

> anything in public.

> > >

> > > They like to me in shell, rather than come out

> and fight.If

> > other things are not favourable in chart and

> conjuction is showing

> > very prominent effect, than above mentioned things

> are bound to

> > happen.

> > >

> > >

> > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote:

> > > Dear Sastry garu,

> > > In our jyotish about nodes our peers are very

> inconsistent as

> > rahu-ketu have no independent existence.So the

> yogas if the give

> > with conjunction,aspect or association have

> relevance only to the

> > strengthen or weaken specific planet in a sign.

> > > Also moon alone any where in a sign is not

> good and if ketu a

> > tail that acts like mars is associated some

> vascilation that

> > ususally a weak exhibits will get reduced.Grahana

> or eclipse is

> also

> > to be viewed from longitudes of the ketu and moon

> attained.if

> they

> > are away by more than 10 degrees moon has no

> problem.But the

> > karakatwas of moon like didorders in blood and B.P

> along with

> > mother's state of health which are jeev related

> issues get

> > influenced but nirjeev like moeny,materials

> acqusitions

> > improve.grahan yog cauased by nodes in lagna have

> more impact than

> > with moon.Moon in fact becomes more stable with

> ketu though some

> > rashness and haste may be there.ketu like mars

> energises the moon

> > and gives a rough edge and authority.

> > > krishnan

> > >

> > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote:

> > > dear krishnan garu

> > >

> > > in your analysis you mentioned " moon with ketu

> gives authority

> and

> > > headship "

> > >

> > > since rahu and ketu are only shadow planets and

> malefics, in the

> > > original samhitas, no conjunction (yuti) results

> or yogas with

> > these

> > > two nodes were mentioned.

> > >

> > > since sun is eclipsed by rahu and moon is

> eclipsed by ketu, if

> in

> > a

> > > chart sun+rahu or moon+ketu combination is

> found, it is

> understood

> > > as " grahan yoga " in which case the sun and moon

> would become

> weak

> > > irrepsective of the sign, bhava or their

> strength (even

> exalted).

> > > some researchers published that if rahu or ketu

> is with sun or

>

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