2-Rajvi: re. Q: What in a chart indicates spiritualtiy? Mark Kincaid

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Spirtuality

 

What in a chart indicates advanced spirituality? Any particular

planet placement? Certain houses and certain planets in those houses

indicating higher spirituality?

 

Rajvi

 

 

 

Dear Rajvi:

 

The quote 'normal' Jyotish configurations that indicate spirituality are the

Moksha or liberation houses, ie. 4th, 8th, 9th & 12th....

 

and especially the 2 greatest spiritual planets; Jupiter & Saturn.

 

There are therefore, a number of Astrological configurations that indicate

a strong interest in spirituality vs. say, materialism.

 

For example, Jupiter with the Sun, Moon or in the Rising sign, are often

clear signs of spirituality.

 

Planets in the the 9th & 12th houses, especially reflect interest in

Spirituality.

 

And, not only do these kinds of configurations reflect one's spirituality, but

even the exact 'path' and also, obstacles across one's path are there in

our charts.

 

Someone who has the Sun or Moon in their 9th houses, but also has

Saturn there, has 2 spiritual configurations.

 

There Sun or Moon is enough to give interest in spiritual matters.

 

Also, Saturn there, with their Moon/Sun is another indication.

 

However, Saturn may also be symbolic of some kind of obstacle too.

 

Because Sani tends to be found acting malefically, one needs to look into

whether the person is flowing positively or negatively with Saturn.

 

If positively then great inwardness, even reclusive tendencies and

success may be there.

 

If however, they're not in-tune with that same Saturn then, obstacles of a

Saturn nature will cloud there path.

 

I know people who have both kinds of Saturn and their Jyotish is a great

help at fine tuning that same Saturn and bringing out the best part of Sani.

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

ps... An aside: I asked a spiritual teacher one time what was the most

important 'ingredient' for developing or accomplishing enlightenment and

he said:

 

" Desire,.....desire for enlightenment! "

 

I was very surprised about this, but later it made a lot of sense, we even

have that expression, where there's a will, there's a way.

 

Great question!

 

 

 

Astrologer,

Teacher of Meditation & Ayurved

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1 641 472-0000.

 

 

 

Dear Friends:

 

It's often said, 'we' all, use a very small amount of our human

potential, maybe even as little as 10%.

 

This morning I was thinking I wonder what Astrology has to say

about this?

 

Too often we seem to think of our Astrology as being more

indicative of our 'fate'.

 

But most people don't believe in 'fate', and are actively involved in

improving or developing ourselves.

 

Maybe the Jyotish/Astrological system is about our 'Human

Potential'.

 

Maybe the Jyotish system of from debilitated to Exalted Planets

is about the whole range of our potential.

 

Maybe our charts are really about the unique, individual paths

that we're all on, in the development of 'That' full potential.

 

In fact, all Vedic Knowledge could be looked at as a picture or

Philosophy of the entire range of human development.

 

Ved says the full potential of human life is literally, " Infinite " .

 

It identifies that deep within, exists the source or full potential in

the field of Consciousness.

 

Some people say Ved literally, means 'Pure Knowledge', or Pure

Consciousness.

 

Vedic Philosopy then, concerns itself with the full range, and

potential of the field of Consciousness or Being.

 

Vedic Literature is full of fascinating descriptions of Life, how it

exists in both it's Absolute and Relative components.

 

Being or the Absolute, manifests or creates this Universe, and

thus, the Relative is born.

 

I think of this sometimes when I think about Jyotish or Astrology.

 

Too often I think we get so wrapped up in all the various

symbolisms of our charts, that we forget this wonderful context to

the full Self as well.

 

Today I think Jyotish is the most precise and knowledgeable

knowledge about the literal, specificity of each one of our lives.

 

Being a Philosophy & Education major in college I studied all the

World's greatest ideas.

 

Jyotish's Philosophy that the symbolisms of our charts, fits,

exactly the specific, precise details of our lives is a huge insight

into the nature of Human life.

 

So, if it's true that are Jyotish very accurately can portray the

unique details of our lives, it should too, be really about our

evolution, progress or human development.

 

Maybe it's not possible to develop our full Human potential in this

life, but I do believe our Jyotish may be about the specific path

and development that we are meant to live.

 

In fact, I believe a good case can be made for the fact, not only do

our charts represents our starting point; ie. what our strengths &

weaknesses are, but, our charts may also be good

'understandings' of the exact path of our development that we're

already living.

 

If we take this slant, then, maybe the Benefics in our charts,

represent more, where we're already in tune with our Full

Potential.

 

Maybe the Malefics, then, represent the areas in our life, that

we're meant to improve in the direction of developing more of our

human potential.

 

It definitely feels like that, that we're meant not only to suffer the

negative consequences of those pesky malefics; but that we're

really here to discover the hidden meanings, and unravel the

complexities and destructive tendencies of those same

malefics.

 

Take Mars for example.

 

Let's say we have a kind of accident prone nature. Most people

who know Astrology, would naturally say this is probably due to

the placement of our Mars, in our chart.

 

Maybe Mars is in our lst house, and we literally move too fast.

 

Or maybe it's in the 4th house, or even the 6th, 8th or 12th.

 

Each specific difference describes very precisely each one of our

own, unique Mars situation.

 

But, even if 'accidents' is predictable from our charts, we don't

live our life,

with the belief that we want to keep having them.

 

Though the normal Jyotish advice may be to look out for

accidents especially during trying Mars dasa periods or transits,

in truth, we all, just want to stop having accidents.

 

I remember the last time I had a major accident.

 

This was in 1993. Already I had 3 major life threatening

accidents at work.

 

Doing construction, I almost thought it was natural, but after

beginning studying Jyotish in 1988, I began to think differently

about this.

 

I remember that last accident in 1993. I was working on this new

house construction, up about 30 feet on scaffoldings and

ladders.

 

I remember thinking, I should be okay, because the transits and

dasas seem favorable for no accidents!

 

I remember my wife, however, coming to the job for 2 days

before, standing by the side looking up at me for the longest

time.

 

I'd say to here, " What's the matter? I'm okay! "

 

She would say, " .....ahhh,.... I'm just worried about you..... "

 

The next day, I was bounding around the scaffoldings like a

monkey in a tree, and I brought up another small 7 foot ladder to

climb up even further, and then, my scaffolding gave way.

 

Then, I and all my equipment came tumbling down over 32 feet.

 

You know falling is quite an exhilerating experience!

 

In fact, it's just the landing that's a drag!,

hehe

 

The truth is, no one says I'm going to go out there and have an

accident today!

 

" It " , happens inspite of our best intentions.

 

Later, when I was in the hospital, (only a couple of days), but

especially in bed, for the next 3 months, I was so stiff, I couldn't

even lie down, and had to sleep literally sitting up about 40% of

the way.

 

I thought: " Why did this happen? I knew the dasas and the

transits, and this shouldn't have happened! "

 

Then, it came to me, in a flash.

 

" Oh, my I've got that Mars in the 10th house, and I know that's

where my energy and enthuiasm comes from, but maybe it's not

enough that I've got to watch my dasas and transits, maybe I

have a tendency to go too fast, and take risks.

 

Maybe I've got to slow down, all the time, just because of my

Mars in my chart.

 

That was the beginning of a huge shift for me.

 

From that moment on, now, over 12 years have gone by and I

haven't had one accident.

 

In fact, plenty of strange and potentially troublesome dasas and

transits have gone by, but inside, knowing that 'I' in general had

to think of going more slowly, really helped me a lot.

 

Along the way, I'd even become aware of how Mars was trying to

tell me I was on the verge of an accident.

 

Doing construction is challenging as far as accidents goes,

because construction is ruled by Mars!

 

But, now I found myself paying more attention, and when I was

rushing, I'd notice that I'd begin to get some 'Marsish' slaps.

 

Sometimes, I'd find myself banging my elbow as I was trying to

rapidly get out of the house.

 

Other times, I'd be at work and find myself nicking and cutting

myself, due to the fact that I was trying to get 'done' as soon as

possible.

 

Now, with my new orientation I began to see these little

accidents as great Mars 'signs' of future accidents on the

horizon.

 

This time, however, instead of ignoring them, I found myself,

able to make a concerted effort to slow down, to do less, and

especially decrease my speed.

 

Then, that experience of cutting, nicking, scraping or bruising,

would stop!

 

Thus I realized not only are our tendencies there in our charts,

but they also represent the very thing that we can do to balance,

neutralize, or improve those malefics.

 

The accidents was my most obvious one, but as I gained

experience especially with my Mars I thought: " I wonder if my

other malefics represent other opportunites for

self-improvement? "

 

Over time, especially as I got more insight especially in terms of

my intense malefic funcitioning Saturn and Moon, I really found

this possibility to be true.

 

Now, I understand not only do our charts represent our lives, but

they practically represent the unique paths and perspectives,

insights and realilzations that we were born to discover and

learn.

 

As we do this, from whatever Jyotish or Vedic remedy we try, we'll

find those previously functioning malefics, begin to function more

naturally.

 

After awhile we'll even experience a kind of miraculous

development or improvement in those malefic Planets, and thus

will our potential begin to unfold due to this very insightful

understanding of Jyotish and Ved.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid