2-Mark and Pavan - Experiences with Saturn - S_dipity

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Great posts Pavan and Mark. Pavan you got me thinking to analyze my

experiences with saturn lately and Mark, I really like your approach

towards astrology. This whole analysis of experiences of different

people with diff planets and finding solutions is amazing. Thank you.

 

Now that I look back, I dont think the transit of Saturn in Sept had

a very immediate impact on me but I definitely felt the impact when

Saturn turned retro in Nov. My whole life turned upside down. I was

totally restless and feeling like " Fish out of water " . The things

started getting better in Feb and were reasonably well for a while.

Since June I have been feeling a lot of frustration, but trying to

work through by " Being Still " . However, this has come as a surprise

to me. My moon sign is Taurus and I was thinking that when Saturn

moves into Cancer my " Sade Sati " wld be over and things wld be

great. But it seems life has some more surprises to offer. Anyway, I

am sure that with the help of Mark and other members, all of us

would be able to understand ourselves and the planets better and be

better persons and live better lives.

 

God bless

 

Thanks

 

 

 

, Mark Kincaid

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote

> Hi Mark Below are my own experiences regarding Saturn transit.

Before that

> let me tell you about my chart. Im a cancerian with Taurus rising.

>

> Also Now the most important piece I observed is when Saturn moved

into

> Cancer in Sep last year , from that point onwards till Jan mid i

was

> restless. I was not able to sleep properly, rest properly and was

not

> able to concentrate on anything as such. I was doing bad

> professionally too. Also I was not eating properly and I felt a

> feeling of uneasiness evrytime and my mind was full of

> anxiety.(Nothing was calm during that period).

>

>

>

>

> Dear Pavan:

>

> These are very clear, signs of a malefic functioning Saturn!

>

> Some of that, was my experience too when SAturn moved into my

Cancer.

>

> My experience was it was like a big boulder beginning to move

across my 10th

> house/Cancer.

>

> Though I didn't realize how potentially negative it was till it

moved back

> into Gemini, and that 'grief' of Saturn/Cancer/home of the

Moon/mind,

> subsided a little.

>

> But, that experience warned me that this period could be very

challenging

> for many.

>

> The key thing is to learn how to pay more attention to

strengthening Saturn

> during this time!

>

> Now, I understand that Saturn represents the time, that we're

meant to put

> more attention on developing SAturn strength!

>

> Since I've been thinking this way, as SAturn's moved back into

CAncer, I'm

> going to strive to be more SAturnish, there, and that will help a

lot!

>

> Think of this SAturn/Cancer, transit more like Sade Sat. And,

during these

> kind of SAturn periods, this is the time we're supposed to shift

our

> attention and develop more Saturn wisdoms!

>

> As you do this, the 'sign' that it's working will be the

diminishing of all

> your symptoms that you mentioned.

>

> You also said:

>

> Things improved dramatically after Jan. I took off and went home

in between

> and got relaxed and rejenuvated. After I returned back I was kool

and calm

> and made it sure that I had rest for a good time. From Jan till May

> evrythin was back on track and I was doing good and my mind too was

> clear and was filled with tranquility.

>

> This experience alone, shows how real and important Saturn's

transits are!

>

> Good perception. Because now that you've seen clearly that this

is the true

> result,

> NOW,

> you can begin more whole heartily investing more time and money in

> increasing your

> Saturn wisdom!

>

> Now again Im feeling the uneasiness and loss of peace

and

> sleep from June onwards. I may relate this to Saturn back to

Cancer.

> Yesterday night I hardly slept for 2 hours. I was trying hard to

sleep

> but my mind was in full active state. It never bcame calm and kool

so

> that I can sleep.

>

> Let your experiences, like this, be a 'SIGN', on how you're doing.

>

> As you put attention and get more rest, and do whatever can be

done to

> increase your

> attunement with SAturn, the 'sign' that you're progressing will be

a

> diminishing of these

> more typically negative results.

>

>

> I have been reading ur articles on Saturn from the

> begining in various groups. I think this is a testing phase for me.

>

> Think of this also as the 'time' when you and nature picked this

time, to

> work on your SAturn!

>

> Grief with Saturn is not just because of Saturn, bringing back our

negative

> karmas, but indicate the exact times when we're meant to work on

our

> SAturns.

>

> And, because we don't generally, then those periods become very

rough!

>

>

> Saturn acts malefic on Cancerians ??? (huh !??)

>

> Just remember: Saturn does not have to act malefically for anyone!

>

> It's within us, this power to make our SAturn's, positive!

>

> Strive for strengthening your Saturn!

>

> I want to take ample

> rest and be calm and koolbut im not able to.

>

> Wanting to take 'ample' rest as you said, is the first step.

>

> But, we need to set up our lives so when we go through such typical

> 'testing' periods, we can.

>

> That's why I've been emphasizing, savings, both spiritually, or

mentally,

> and physically with ample, money!

>

> Dealing with Saturn grief, or losses or stress, is much easier, if

we're

> well rested, and have more money!

>

> Saturn does better, when we let go, and partly through

surrendering, by

> putting more attention on SAturn resting, and enlivenment,

then,.....

>

> things will improve!

>

>

> Im trying hard but Im not

> able to. Please do suggest me how to cope up with this problem.

This

> prob doesnt seem to be blown out of proportion now but I want to

check

> it before it bcome worse.

>

> Very good idea!

>

> That's why I wrote this article...

>

> Re-organize and re-orient your life, to be able to put more

attention on

> more calmness and more savings...

>

> As you do this, especially the more restful, part, you'll be more

silent,

> and SAturn's transit, can become more inwardly 'awakening' ....

>

> instead of stressful!

>

>

> Offlate I have been investing more in

> Funds,Stocks and Savings.. I was not careful about money till Feb.

but

> suddenly from March onwards I became very aggressive on savings

front.

>

> Yes, yes yes! SAvings is crucial for SAturn!

>

> As we save more, we gain the power to make better decisions.

>

> Because during tempting or stressful SAturn times, many things

slow down,

> and don't come together as quickly as we'd like, and that tries

not only our

> patience, but especially our Financial reserves!

>

> If we don't have much or any! financial reserves, then this time

will be

> very extreme, and stressful!

>

> But, if we've saved, then, we may dip into our savings, but at

least we have

> them!

>

>

> I started thinking about money making(and also saving ) more and

more.

> How does this suddenly evolve out of me ??

>

> Keep following the prompts of your experiences.

>

> If you're feeling tired, or pain, or stressed, these are negative,

SAturn

> like experiences, and this is how nature communicates with us, as

to whether

> or not we're in-tune!

>

> Put more attention on especially producing more mental calmness;

>

> yoga, physical postures, and meditation, more rest, and mentally

accepting

> this as the time when a great Saturn healing can go on!

>

> Keep me abreast as to your experiences...

>

>

> We can add this to our research project.

>

> Make entrys in your Jyotish journal for a couple of days,

previously,

> regarding how much rest you're getting,...

>

> and then, we can develop a concrete strategy for developing more

powerful

> attunement with Saturn!

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

" bpavan2k1 " <bpavan2k1>

> JoeTischResearchProject

> Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:52:39 -0000

> JoeTischResearchProject

> [JoeTischResearchProject] Re: Saturn Series # 4 2

Goals &

> Prescriptions for Strengthening Saturn....Ma

>

>

> Hi Mark ..

> Below are my own experiences regarding Saturn transit. Before that

> let me tell you about my chart. Im a cancerian with Taurus rising.

> Moon 3rd House

> My Jupiter is in 4nd house(in Leo) with malefic Rahu and Mars. (in

my

> Navamsha both Jupiter and Mars are in Cancer !!! One debiliated and

> one exalted huh !!).

> Then my Saturn is in my 5th House (Virgo).

> 10th House : Sun,Mercury,Ketu(in Aquarius)

> 11th House : Venus (in Pisces)

>

> Navamsha chart is as follows :

> Lagna : Virgo

> 3rd : Ketu (in Scorpio)

> 4th : Moon (Saggitarius)

> 5th : Saturn (Capricorn)

> 6th : Sun (Aquarius)

> 7th : Venus (Pisces)

> 9th : Rahu (Taurus)

> 10th : Mercury(Gemini)

> 11th : Jupiter, Mars(Cancer)

>

> Whenever there was a transit of Mars or Ketu things were in bad

shape

> for me. Now my Venus Mahadasa and Antardasa is running for me.

> Now the most important piece I observed is when Saturn moved into

> Cancer in Sep last year , from that point onwards till Jan mid i

was

> restless. I was not able to sleep properly, rest properly and was

not

> able to concentrate on anything as such. I was doing bad

> professionally too. Also I was not eating properly and I felt a

> feeling of uneasiness evrytime and my mind was full of

> anxiety.(Nothing was calm during that period). Things improved

> dramatically after Jan. I took off and went home in between and got

> relaxed and rejenuvated. After I returned back I was kool and calm

and

> made it sure that I had rest for a good time. From Jan till May

> evrythin was back on track and I was doing good and my mind too was

> clear and was filled with tranquility.

> Now again Im feeling the uneasiness and loss of peace

and

> sleep from June onwards. I may relate this to Saturn back to

Cancer.

> Yesterday night I hardly slept for 2 hours. I was trying hard to

sleep

> but my mind was in full active state. It never bcame calm and kool

so

> that I can sleep.

> I have been reading ur articles on Saturn from the

> begining in various groups. I think this is a testing phase for me.

> Saturn acts malefic on Cancerians ??? (huh !??) I want to take

ample

> rest and be calm and koolbut im not able to. Im trying hard but Im

not

> able to. Please do suggest me how to cope up with this problem.

This

> prob doesnt seem to be blown out of proportion now but I want to

check

> it before it bcome worse. Offlate I have been investing more in

> Funds,Stocks and Savings.. I was not careful about money till Feb.

but

> suddenly from March onwards I became very aggressive on savings

front.

> I started thinking about money making(and also saving ) more and

more.

> How does this suddenly evolve out of me ??

>

> Also do comment me about my chart. How it looks like ?

>

> And many thanks for ur valuable comments on stengthenin Saturn. i

have

> learnt a lot on that. Thanks a TON.

>

> Regards,

> Pavan

>

>

>

>

> JoeTischResearchProject , Mark Kincaid

> <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > 2 Goals & Prescriptions for Strengthening Saturn..

> >

> >

> >

> > If you're like me, you're one of 95% of the people in the world

who were

> > born with a functionally malefic, acting Saturn!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Today I was thinking of Saturn and a couple of interesting

thoughts

> popped

> > into my head.

> >

> >

> >

> > I was thinking a great way of strengthening Saturn would be to

keep

> in mind

> > these 2 simple

> > goals or prescriptions.

> >

> >

> > #1 Create a Goal, to develop MORE ....SATURN silence, each

day!

> >

> >

> > Keep in mind, that each day, you could feel less stressed, tired

and

> out of

> > balance.

> >

> > Each day, you could experience more and more inner calmness,

> settledness and

> > centeredness!

> >

> > Having 'that' as a goal, helps me with my SAturn, because since

I've

> > realized SAturn can be strengthened, my whole life has smoothed

out, and

> > become more easy, natural, and fulfilling.

> >

> > The problem most of us face, is we have our goals, desires and

> dreams, and

> > those become our focus.

> >

> > But, if we forget that the paths of our desires, is due to our

Saturn's,

> > then, we'll be puzzled why we don't get better results!

> >

> >

> > Technically, we should say both SAturn and Mars represent the

> 'paths' of our

> > lives.

> >

> > Our goals, dreams, and life-aspirations probably come due to our

Sun's,

> > Moon's, & especially Jupiter.

> >

> > But, the way in which we try and fulfill our dreams is through

our

> Saturn.

> >

> > When Saturn is balanced, then, the path to the fulfillment of

those

> desires

> > is natural, easy and effortless!

> >

> > Wow, that's so great to say that! hehe

> >

> > Too bad, it wasn't my earliest experience, hehe.

> >

> > But, encountering Saturn resistances, frustrations, delays,

> disappointments,

> > losses, and grief, especially along our paths, is Nature's way of

> showing us

> > how in-tune we are, presently, with our Saturns.

> >

> > Therefore, #1, develop a Goal to increase your Saturn power each

day!

> >

> > That will feel like, more and more settledness, more calmness,

and more

> > inner stillness.

> >

> > That's #1, then, go about your day, your life, your activities,

from

> that

> > increasing Saturn strength, but, as soon as you start getting

tired,

> > stressed, or wigged out, then, relax, let go, get more rest!

> >

> >

> > #2.... The second goal that I thought of was to create a plan to

> accumulate

> > more Saturn financial wealth every day!

> >

> >

> > Modern Economics says we all should have a savings plan!

> >

> > We already should be on a plan to save 10-20% of our incomes to

create

> > financial stability.

> >

> > The first goal you'll hear about if you pick up most books on

> finances, is:

> > " Create An Emergency Fund of 6-Months of your Expenses " !

> >

> > I thought they were kidding first time I read that!

> >

> > I mean, I'd never had that before.

> >

> > Not even 6 weeks, ahhh, maybe 6 days, but 6 months!,...

unbelievable.

> >

> > So, I thought, what the heck, what harm can it cause.

> >

> > I'd tried it the other way, and living on the edge financially

all of my

> > life, hadn't done it yet!

> >

> > (Saturn with Moon in the 12th, is very symbolic of not saving

enough!)

> >

> > So, I adjusted.

> >

> > I set a goal, and after about 6 months I saved my first 1,000$.

> >

> > Boy, was that hard! hehe I noticed there was such a habit, a

flow, for

> > money to go out, (ie. 12th house!), so it took awhile.

> >

> > But, after even that first 1,000$ saved, I noticed a big shift!

> >

> > All of a sudden, all the little things, flat tires, unexpected

> bills, all,

> > unforseen expenditures, started to not affect me so intensely.

> >

> > I had a small buffer!

> >

> > Wow, did that feel better.

> >

> > I got inspired to save more!

> >

> > Over the next year, or so, I finally achieved that miraculous,

> 6-Month's of

> > my Expenses, saved in my little emergency fund!

> >

> > Wow, did that change my life!

> >

> > Now, I really felt insulated from all the financial ups and

downs in

> life.

> >

> > And, for the first time in my life, I started to really

understand

> the power

> > of saving!

> >

> > Now, it's about 10 years, later, and for most of these years,

I've

> had at

> > least that 6-month's reserve, and I have to say, this

one 'SAturn'

> > improvement, has totally improved my life.

> >

> > Sure, the last 5 years of mini-recession was very tight. I

couldn't

> always

> > stay with that.

> >

> > In fact I had to dip into those savings quite regularly, but

having

> that as

> > a great first financial goal, kept me always growing in Saturn

> quietness and

> > power, with money!

> >

> > You do these 2 things:

> >

> > Create my Saturn restfulness...and

> > create more SAturn wealth, and your life will be transformed!

> >

> >

> > Every one's path along this goal, will be different, but even 1

or 2

> months

> > in this direction, will change your life!

> >

> > When Saturn becomes more benefic, you'll be amazed at how happy

and

> > purposeful you'll feel!

> >

> > Good luck!

> >

> >

> > Jai Sani!

> >

> >

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Mark Kincaid

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Astrologer

> > Teacher of Meditation & Ayurved

> > /

> > 1 641 472-0000.

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