2-janna,.....Saturn sufferings. & Up-coming Saturn/Cancer Transit... Mark Kincaid....5/29

May 29, 2005

Dear Mark: On May 26 when Saturn moved into Cancer I sat outside for a few minutes

reflecting on what the Saturn Return and Saturn in my first house for the next

two years....

I saw directly in my line of vision (facing West) on the fence a rat who sat for a few

minutes, then scurried off the fence to where I was sitting and ran next to me

and behind me (toward the East).

As a Westerner, I do not like rats although I

have many animal allies that I connect with on astral and physical planes.

So at first I shuddered, then I reflected that the rat was the vehicle for Ganesh

who removes obstacles, and is the son of Siva.

I did not get much further than that in my analsysis (except I know Ganesh is also the deity most associated with Jyotish).

I did not know that the Rat symbolized Saturn until someone

responded to my post, and the interesting aspect of this experience was that

" the rat " was above-ground, not stealty or hiding, but direct and

nonthreatening.

In further research I also recalled the Rat keeps the " Wish-

Fulfilling Jewel " (the jewel of Self?). I'm still putting the pieces together of this

puzzle, but I feel that Saturn revealed himself to me as a friend, not an enemy,

in prakriti's response to my reflection, allaying my fears, and that if I continued

to reflect and meditate in silence, Saturn would be a support for me in the first

house and would through Ganesh help to remove any obstacles in my path.

Another illuminating poem by Rumi was sent to me by a friend and is an

illustration of what you mean by surrendering to Saturn, appropriately entitled

" Zero Circle, " with Saturn at zero degrees in Cancer, where I am at in my first

house of self in space and time.

Janna

Satyam Shivam Sundaram

Om aim klim somaya namah

Om Namah Shivayha

Dear Janna:

Beautiful story. I had forgotten that relationship between the 'rat' or mouse at the feet of Ganesha!

hehehe

Your story reminds me of the one I had, when I was watching Saturn move into Cancer, last fall, too.

I have been watching Saturn very closely for over 12 years, first in Capricorn, then, Aquarius, then, Pisces, Aries, Taurus and then Gemini.

I'd become pretty familiar with that flavor of Saturn moving through my chart, as in my life.

Then, I watched it begin it's movement into my 10th house, where my Cancer, is.

And, all of a sudden, Saturn appeared to me, like a big boulder, and stone.

It was this huge rock, right smack in the middle of my path, of career, and 10th house, and my first impulse was to run all around it, looking at it, and laughing, pointing, and remarking, " wow, that's the stone of Saturn. "

Well, I don't think I realized how out of tune I was being, hehe, by running all around it, but then, I watched it, as it moved back into Gemini, and then, I noticed the grief, and sadness that had been coming, immediately began to lesson.

I noticed so many people experiencing so many typically malefic symbolisms of this passage, that I've thought a lot about this since then.

I've also hoped and prayed for guidance, from life, and Saturn to show me what more can I do, to make this latest Saturn movement positive, instead of negative.

Lately it's been occuring to me, this living presence, of the boulder of Saturn, is there, to show me, and 'us', exactly where we need to go more slowly.

Since that initial time, now, I'm letting myself be that huge silent boulder.

It's really like this great, black hole, peep into the inner reality of Silence, of Being, and

Saturn's leading the way, to experiencing and deriving more benefit of this aspect of life.

I've known for awhile, that this was the true nature of Saturn, to show us where and how much more inner silence and stillness we need to have.

In fact, where we have our Saturn grief's, delays, malefic moments, frustrations and griefs, Nature is just trying to show us...

" This, there, is where you need more Saturn bliss! "

So, now I surrender even more to that silent boulder, moving across my 10th house, and I get to practice being more in-tune with 'that', now, through the qualities and situations of my career, instead of fighting or feeling bad, that things are going to take longer, probably,

but now, I'm devoted, to surrendering to how ever long it takes!

That is part of the lesson of Saturn for us!

Thanks for your story, great!

Sincerely,

Mark Kincaid

" Janna Lynn " <jnanalynn

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[TheStarsWithin] 2-janna,.....Re:Saturn sufferings.... > Mark Kincaid.... & up-coming Saturn >> in

Dear Mark: I've shared two experiences (one is a poem) on another list(s) I

also connect with from time to time that I think would be valuable here.

On May 26 when Saturn moved into Cancer I sat outside for a few minutes

reflecting on what the Saturn Return and Saturn in my first house for the next

two years (and crossing my Aslesha ascendant three times) would bring

(Ashlesha lagna, Pusha (Cancer) Sun combust Saturn 1* JU JU CH). I saw

directly in my line of vision (facing West) on the fence a rat who sat for a few

minutes, then scurried off the fence to where I was sitting and ran next to me

and behind me (toward the East). As a Westerner, I do not like rats although I

have many animal allies that I connect with on astral and physical planes. So

at first I shuddered, then I reflected that the rat was the vehicle for Ganesh

who removes obstacles, and is the son of Siva. I did not get much further than

that in my analsysis (except I know Ganesh is also the deity most associated

with Jyotish). I did not know that the Rat symbolized Saturn until someone

responded to my post, and the interesting aspect of this experience was that

" the rat " was above-ground, not stealty or hiding, but direct and

nonthreatening. In further research I also recalled the Rat keeps the " Wish-