2-Sanjit.....Consciousness & Jyotish Mark Kincaid 5/19

May 20, 2005

Excellent article, Mark..simply beautiful. One has to experience such a state of mind to understand how it feels to be there.

sanjit

Dear Sanjit:

Thanks. I really enjoyed writing this one. For a number of week's, lately, it's been occuring to me how important, the transformative side to life, is and how much so much Jyotish/Astrology, has forgotten about this huge possibility....

See below:

sanjit

Excellent Mark..simply beautiful. One has to experience such a state of mind to understand how it feels to be there. Sadly, many times badly placed planets in our chart may prevent us from recognizing the importance of detacment or simply make us unable to detach even after trying hard because the harder we will try the more problems will crop up to steer us away.

As I've progressed in my own direction of this evolution of consciousness, I've realized, that really there's no problem or Astrological weaknesses, that can't be overcome.

I had some major difficulties in my early life.

Moon & Saturn in the 12th house, in Virgo, and only 1 house away from my Sun, in the 11th, and Mars/Cancer, in my 10th, were my main maleifics!

One time, I asked an Advanced meditation teacher: " What was the most important quality for attaining enlightenment and he said: " Desire....desire for enlightenment is the most important. "

I've thought about this, most of my life, and I realized I might not have had, much money, or internal confidence, but I knew I could do that one thing: " desire for my enlightenment. "

With that, over time, and my persistence, eventually, nature supported, and led me to the very things that I needed to conquer my problems and evolve.

First there came meditation, and then, Jyotish/Astrology, which has been such a great added contribution.

I have also noticed that when we begin to experience this state of mind initially, our problems may initially increase. This may be because our way of doing things and doing things in a detached observing manner is different. So when we experience this state of mind, we may automatically correct a number of things in life and change the way we function in our lives, so that these corrections may initially throw up problems.

I know what you mean, but I found there was a difference between 'problems' arising, during meditation, and one's outside.

Increase of 'activity' in meditation, is due to purification, and there's a way to deal with this.

As far as challenges coming outside of meditation, in daily life, I found this is where Jyotish, can really help.

Once I discovered what the nature of my dasa period's were like, and learned to understand them better, then, even the outer, especially, started smoothing out.

From the astrological perspective, I feel we have limitations (maybe its my debilitated Saturn). I adopted this viewpoint after my sade sati because every effort was met with failure for no reason and there was simply no logical explanation. I was up against a wall and Saturn showed me my place. I accepted it humbly. Man does not like the idea of being controlled. To accept that 9 huge balls of gaseous mass hanging in space controls us is unacceptable to most and the Ego wont permit it. Only when the Ego is crushed repeatedly, freedom is denied, restrictions come in force, plans go awry, your hands are tied behind you and there is no logical explanation, then one realises how little control we actually have over our lives. It takes a great amount of courage and effort to put ones ego behind and accept destiny.

I had a very similar experience during my Saturn Mahadasa period. I had been meditating for over 12 years, and enjoying much progress and happiness.

Then, I moved into my Saturn mahadasa period, perhaps because my Saturn was in the 12th house, of loss, but in those first few year's of Saturn, I experienced, every imaginable kind of loss....

I'd been studying Jyotish for about 4 years, but I had no idea to what extent Saturn knew I needed to get more in-tune with Saturn.

Having said that, it would be foolish to simply accept destiny. Thats because one has to test ones limitations and only then would one know what he or she is destined for. Its like accpeting you are too weak to life weights but never find out how much weight you can actually lift. Bodybuilders test their limits and dont cross it. If I accepted I cant lift more than 10 kilos and never tried lifting 11 kilos, I would never realize that 15 likos was probably my limit and leave that potential for tapping 5 kilos untapped.

I remember at the heighth of this loss, Saturn period, exclaiming to Saturn: " I thought, Lord, I was in-tune with you! "

Then, I heard a laughter that I'll never forget. Full belly laugh going on for 2, 3 minutes.

It was a little humiliating!

So, I said, " What else? " And, Saturn only said: " More silence,......more silence. "

Now, looking back, I realize this was the beginning of my true understanding of Saturn.

I ended up surrendering even more, and paying more and more attention, to making sure I was being in-tune with him!

One must know the borders and the extent to which we can influence each house and change them for the better. Or else, it would be tragic to never tap this potential for change and never realise that you could have pushed futher and harder until you did all you could to change that house and no more can be done, which has to be accepted with humbleness.

Yes, yes....that great humbleness....

Surrendering....and then later realizing that Saturn represent's always having a part of us, that's always still, and silent.

When I look at my experience, I always make sure, there is that inner, part of me, that's always still and composed!

Then, if I start to feel, restless, or worried, or anything unsettling, I remember Saturn's message, and that is to come back to the Self....

Sanjit

Sincerely,

Mark Kincaid

Now, I know that the entire field and amazing benefits of Consciousness, expansion, need to be added to the great resources of Jyotish....

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Re: Consciousness & Jyotish > Mark Kincaid 5/19

sanjit

Excellent Mark..simply beautiful. One has to experience such a state of mind to understand how it feels to be there. Sadly, many times badly placed planets in our chart may prevent us from recognizing the importance of detacment or simply make us unable to detach even after trying hard because the harder we will try the more problems will crop up to steer us away. I have also noticed that when we begin to experience this state of mind initially, our problems may initially increase. This may be because our way of doing things and doing things in a detached observing manner is different. So when we experience this state of mind, we may automatically correct a number of things in life and change the way we function in our lives, so that these corrections may initially throw up problems.

From the astrological perspective, I feel we have limitations (maybe its my debilitated Saturn). I adopted this viewpoint after my sade sati because every effort was met with failure for no reason and there was simply no logical explanation. I was up against a wall and Saturn showed me my place. I accepted it humbly. Man does not like the idea of being controlled. To accept that 9 huge balls of gaseous mass hanging in space controls us is unacceptable to most and the Ego wont permit it. Only when the Ego is crushed repeatedly, freedom is denied, restrictions come in force, plans go awry, your hands are tied behind you and there is no logical explanation, then one realises how little control we actually have over our lives. It takes a great amount of courage and effort to put ones ego behind and accept destiny.

Having said that, it would be foolish to simply accept destiny. Thats because one has to test ones limitations and only then would one know what he or she is destined for. Its like accpeting you are too weak to life weights but never find out how much weight you can actually lift. Bodybuilders test their limits and dont cross it. If I accepted I cant lift more than 10 kilos and never tried lifting 11 kilos, I would never realize that 15 likos was probably my limit and leave that potential for tapping 5 kilos untapped.

One must know the borders and the extent to which we can influence each house and change them for the better. Or else, it would be tragic to never tap this potential for change and never realise that you could have pushed futher and harder until you did all you could to change that house and no more can be done, which has to be accepted with humbleness.

Sanjit