Comments on Jyotish (Mark)

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At 02:39 PM 4/28/05 -0500, Mark wrote:

 

>>Nice to hear from you. As I've listed before my birth data is Sept. 4,

1951 at 11:17am

Kansas City, MO. Libra rising, Jyotish system.

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Thank you for your birth data, Mark. I know I have your chart somewhere,

but it's easier to compute it again than find it amidst many files. It's

great fun to see the person in the chart, especially the navamsa.

 

Your take on astrology is of course, very closely related to your contact

with Maharishi, and your own psychology. Maharishi's view is one Indian

guru's view of Jyotish. We all have to follow our own path. My own view is

much closer to a Sri Yukteswar's more scientific perspective in

AUTOBIOGRAPY OF A YOGI:

 

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" The stars are about to take an 'unfriendly' interest in you, Mukunda. Fear

not; you shall be protected. In about a month your liver will cause you

much trouble. The illness is scheduled to last for six months, but your use

of an astrological armlet will shorten the period to twenty-four days. " (p.

164)

 

" Charlatans have brought the ancient stellar science to its present

disrepute. Astrology is too vast, both mathematically and philosophically,

to be rightly grasped except by men of profound understanding. If

ignoramuses misread the heavens, and see there a scrawl instead of a

script, that is to be expected in this imperfect world.... " (p. 162) (SRF:

twelfth edition, hardback, 1981)

 

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As I said, each of us is an individual, and each of us must follow our own

astrological path. Personal transformation is fine, but it takes much more

will power than mot people have at their disposal. I gave up doing

consultation readings long ago. For me it's more honest to continue

research and put my findings in writing.

 

You've joined the western counseling tradition. I have no complaint about

that. But it's not my path, nor is Maharishi's take on astrology. I don't

believe that TM per se has much to do with astrology. TM has to do with the

practitioner's spiritual life. (I've practiced Yogananda's meditation since

1974, and I've become increasingly critical re: astrology over the years.

Different kind of meditation, different perspective.)

 

Thanks for the exposition on your perspective. I'm sorry that my on-line

time is so limited, which means my replies have to be short. (Please see

the P.S. below)

 

Blessings,

Therese

 

P.S. Mark, can you explain what you mean by:

 

" Indian Vedic Knowledge including Jyotish has been very ineffectual,

especially in India for a long time. "

 

I know about the Vedic knowledge part...All Indians seem to care about is

gaining money, education and jobs and a good marriage, forget the

Vedas...., but what about the Jyotish? India's traditional astrology isn't

'Vedic.' It's Hellenistic and Arabic. There was no horoscopic astrology as

we know it today in Vedic times. There was a type of Omen astrology, however.

 

Maybe you mean that in India today the people don't live by Vedic

standards? That's true. But that isn't astrology. The philosophy of life in

India has become very materealistic.