2-Paulo,re. please explain my 12th house,to me? Mark Kincaid 4/12

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Hi Mark: But we always want more and more….and things go so slowly… often they don’t move…when actions are blocked I know it is time to rest and to meditate. The results of my actions are not so powerful in the relative field.

 

Losses? Lately I only feel loss of energy at work. People with whom I work are very unbalanced. I feel more comfortable when I do my second program at lunchtime.

 

Dear Paulo:

 

What Jyotish is able to teach us as an additon to such things as meditation, is exactly which Planets or parts of us, need to also be improved.

 

I've been mediating myself since 1970, and experiencing many wonderful benefits, but,.... it was when I learned Jyotish and added the specific benefits of Jyotish & Ayurved....that things really started to improve for me.

 

It can be that way with you too.

 

" Losses " , things going much more slowly then you'd like, these things mean something Astrologically. Delays, frustrations and losses, these are Nature's way of showing us where we need to improve.

 

It's not just a Philosophical thing, but they're actually great signs from Nature, exactly what planets or areas of ourselves, we need to strengthen!

 

In this case Saturn is the planet being described.

 

Looking at your Saturn, in the 12th, though your 12th, especially with Mars, Venus, and Jupiter, all there, which represents by the way, the best intentions to do good, for spiritual causes...

 

However, unless you learn to transform the negative aspects of your 12th house, then negatives will continue.

 

But, once you change the meanings and reality of those maleific qualities, then your experiences will automatically improve!

 

Hope this helps

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

ps... feel free to join my Jyotish research group, I've recently started.

 

 

There are 50 people who've recently joined here, and there's many wonderful examples of how we can improve ourselves through improving our Planets...

 

check it out at:

 

JoeTischResearchProject/

 

 

 

ps.... One more thing to add. 12th house represents where certain aspects of relative life, have gone too far in terms of the renunciate life.

 

In other words, where we have our 12th house planets we have imbalances of the relative.

 

Many meditators have strong sanyasi tendencies, but in this life, were born to learn about 200% of life!

 

The only planet that's really happy there is your Jupiter/ Sagittarius, because it's in it's Own Sign...

 

All the other planets you need to understand in terms of stopping losses of those varieties.

 

I'll give one example.

 

I also have Saturn in my 12th, and that planet represents losses, and imbalances of the 12th house, which means financial expenditures.

 

When I read this, I realized my previous habit of staying on the edge financially and never having saved enough, money, was the real problem.

 

So, I learned that the 12th house is also here to teach us about 'savings'....and once I learned how to save more....

 

then all the negative experiences of my Saturn there started to change! and get better.

 

Mars too has a symbolism there, and we can talk about that, too.

 

Jupiter in Sag/, there certainly gives you the ability to save, if you desire it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" MT (SP - Paulo e Cynthia ) " <mt-morumbi

 

Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:37:59 -0300

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Re: 2-Paulo,re. please explain my 12th house,to me? > Mark Kincaid > 4/12

 

 

 

Hi Mark,

 

 

 

The financial aspect is stable. Since 1987, I work for the government as state clerk. This job gives me stability and financial support. I learned not to overspend. And I learned to maintain my bank account always positive.

 

I also work with TM (since 1997) and this is what we (me and my wife) like to do….but here in Brazil, we need to be Heroes to survive only with TM activities (here our movement is very shy). “A little bird” (my Saturn - I think) said to me: pay attention at the moves of the movement (here). All fulltime teachers have many difficulties. Knowing this (and having another job) it is easier to play. But we always want more and more….and things go so slowly… often they don’t move…when actions are blocked I know it is time to rest and to meditate. The results of my actions are not so powerful in the relative field.

 

 

 

Losses? Lately I only feel loss of energy at work. People with whom I work are very unbalanced. I feel more comfortable when I do my second program at lunchtime.

 

 

 

Something inside me loves to meditate and has the feeling of expansion.

 

 

 

Thank you

 

 

 

Jai Guru Dev

 

Paulo

 

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Date Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:15:56 -0500

Subject 2-Paulo, re. please explain my 12th house, to me? > Mark Kincaid > 4/12

 

> Hi Mark,

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> and how about this planets in the 12th house?

 

Dear Paulo:

 

All planets in any house, represent the postives and negatives of our lives.

 

The 12th house 'meanings' has to do with loss and gain.

 

As you probably know it's called the house of loss or expenditures, and as such,

all karmas as to financial losses or expenditures are looked at through this house.

 

However, like all houses, the positive side of these meansings is also contained there.

 

So, ability to save money and/or debt or lack of debt is the other side.

 

If someone has a positive 12th house they're able to save and hold onto their moneys.

 

If not, then, challenges of lots of losses, and the grief that comes from this, are common.

 

Yours would be a very interesting 12th house, because you have so many planets there.

 

It's especially fascinating because both the positive and negative sides of the 12th house,

should be your experience.

 

The positives of the 12th house, would be possible due to your very good, Jupiter, lord of

the 12th, there, in the 12th.

 

However, the other planets tend to symbolize aspects of your life, that are more in the

negative vein of the 12th house.

 

Both, Saturn and Mars, generally are unhappy or reflective of unhappiness in the 12th....

 

So, tell me, how do you experience your 12th house?

 

How do you experience,....financial expenditures, or losses,...or!

spiritual finds!

 

That's the postive side of the 12th, is it's one of the great spiritual houses, and having

the all-positive Jupiter in it's Own sign, should be very auspicious...

 

Please put these in your own words, and I can show you which planets are reflective of the

malefic side of your 12th and which the benefic?

 

 

Sincerley,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

" Paulo e Cynthia " <mt-morumbi

 

Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:15:32 -0000

 

Re: 2-Paulo, re. What is the dob info? > Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

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, Mark Kincaid

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> Dear Paulo:

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> Sincerely,

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> " Paulo e Cynthia " <mt-morumbi@u...>

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> Re: 2-Socorro, re. Is Mars always

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> the 12th house? > Mark Kincaid

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> Hi Mark,

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> and how about this planets in the 12th house?

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> Mars 21 Sg 44' 07.81 " Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li BK

> Jupiter 2 Sg 16' 19.43 " Moola 1 Sg Ar DK

> Venus 15 Sg 28' 17.21 " Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le PK

> Saturn 19 Sg 59' 17.39 " Poo.Shaa. 2 Sg Vi PiK

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> Lagna 18 Cp 28' 12.31 " Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -

> Sun 20 Cp 15' 11.25 " Sravanam 4 Cp Cn MK

> Moon 6 Ar 33' 50.98 " Aswini 2 Ar Ta GK

> Mars 21 Sg 44' 07.81 " Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li BK

> Mercury 25 Cp 52' 49.55 " Dhanishtha 1 Cp Le AmK

> Jupiter 2 Sg 16' 19.43 " Moola 1 Sg Ar DK

> Venus 15 Sg 28' 17.21 " Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le PK

> Saturn 19 Sg 59' 17.39 " Poo.Shaa. 2 Sg Vi PiK

> Rahu 3 Vi 39' 33.31 " U.Pha. 3 Vi Aq AK

> Ketu 3 Pi 39' 33.31 " U.Bhaa. 1 Pi Le -

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> , Mark Kincaid

> <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Mark,

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> > I was reading somewhere here that Mars in the 12th is

> > one of the worst places of Mars

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> > Hi Socorro!

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> > Yes, generally MARS, is malefic there, but there are some

> exceptions.

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> > If Mars is in it's Own sign or even Exalted it's much better...

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> > However, the 'BEST' way to figure out if Mars, or any planet

> is 'acting'

> > malefically,

> > or negatively,...is to investigate whether the negative

> significations of

> > that, or any

> > house are present...

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> > So, do you have a hard time, saving money?

> > Do you spend too much money, inspite of your efforts...

> > Finally, do you spend too much energy, too...?

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> > These are all classic questions for the 12th house...

> > and though there may be other reasons why we might also spend too

> much

> > money...

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> > ie. other planets could be in the 12th house, however,...if Mars

is

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> > there,

> > and you do tend to not be able to save much money....

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> > This then, could be the reason...

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> > Finally, the most important thing to do, once we've answered that

> > question,....

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> > is then, ask? What can I do, to strengthen, that malefic

> functioning

> > Mars...!

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> > Take care

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> > Nice hearing from you!

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> > Mark Kincaid

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> > Dear Mark,

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> > I was reading somewhere here that Mars in the 12th is

> > one of the worst places of Mars. And yet somewhere in

> > another msg it's good. So what is it or does it

> > depend on every chart, etc.? Thanks,

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> > Socorro

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