Guest guest Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Hi Mark, Everyone... Saw the thread on Saturn, thought to throw this in. It's an essay I wrote sometime back on Sade Sati, which is the 7.5 year transit of Saturn in relation to the Moon or Lagna. Enjoy. On Life, Death, & Sade Sati Tue, Mar 2, 2004 Hello Everyone, Very interesting, Synchronicity is; here I just get finished answering a question about a Vedic method of Transit known as Sade Sati, and I come into the Forum to see a discussion on, in part, Life and Death! While I too respect Mr. Tyl, I have never been one to follow rules very well; in fact, when I was growing up, if my parents told me, " don't go over there " , guess where I would end right up? So, with that in mind, I think it is most prudent to consider the question of Life and Death in the Horoscope. Anyone who has studied Astrology for any length of time, regardless of thier religious and/or philosophical orientation (and I'm a Muslim with very strong Eastern overtones) - or the lack therof - cannot help but consider that there is a " method to the madness " , that things can and often do happen for a reason; and that we can learn from it all. I believe strongly in Free Will, the Process of Becoming, and the Struggle (Jihad) all of us face as we strive to Reach the Sun. No matter what the situation, no matter what the horoscope, we all are charged to do the best we can with what we have. I believe that. And on the other hand, I also believe that there is a beginning and an ending to all things, as confirmed everyday by our sunrise and sunsets, by our ever changing seasons. Death, is a natural and eventual part of Life. I was talking with a colleague earlier today about the very profound, yet little documented, Vedic astrological method known as Sade Sati. It is a transit that is applied to the Moon, and while it is not widely documented in the authoritative texts of Vedic astrology, it is widely known and observed by practically every working jyotishi (vedic astrologer). Sade Sati is the 7.5 year transit of the Moon's sign (it can also be applied to the Asc's sign) and the two signs that flank it. I have mentioned this method in this forum and elsewhere many times, and too much can't be said about it. It's really that profound. Sade Sati periods, all things being equal, are usually times of profound loss in one way or another; this can occur in any area of life, but usually in those areas where the Moon and Saturn are natally positioned in the horoscope. It is very common for a person to lose a loved one to death during Sade Sati. Not all the time, and again, I have to be very, very clear on the fact that one always has to take the individual situation into account, and that context is everything - but I have seen it, very often nonetheless. I have my Vedic (Sidereal) Moon in Aries, in the 5th house of my Vedic horoscope. Saturn by transit was passing through my 12th house in 1995-96, beginning my Sade Sati. Between the years 1997-2003 (the tail end of that period when Sade Sati had ended about 8 months earlier) my grandmother (July, 1997), dad (Dec, 1998), mom (Oct, 2002) and grandfather (Aug, 2003) would all be gone. I had seen this potential before the fact, and was very concerned about it. My grandparents, being senior citizens, was no big surprise; but my parents, I didn't want to lose them at such a young age. But their reality fit; both my parents had chronic health conditions to contend with, and so Sade Sati, for me, could manifest in that way. I decided to get counsel from a Vedic astrologer friend I knew. This man was not only a Vedic astrologer, but he was also a Hindu monk, having spent many years at home and abroad in ashrams. We talked about my situation (early fall, 1998), calmly, sensitively. He spoke to me about preparing myself for what could happen, to mend any and all fences with my parents before the appointed time came, and to be strong for my sisters. I did just that. I kept the information to myself, not telling my sisters, and I quietly prepared for the times to come. On Dec 8, 1998, my father and I had our last conversation in this world; like many fathers and sons, ours was a rocky, sometimes outright hostile relationship. But I am so very glad that we made peace with each other before he left. I have no regrets. A similiar situation occured with me and my mother. Again, no regrets. With the exception of my grandfather, who made his transition from an Elder to an Ancestor while I was out of town on business, I eulogized all of my forebearers. Doing so helped me tremendously in the greiving process, and I grew up a great deal as well. At my mother's funeral, after I delivered her eulogy, many people, who had known me as boy, said that my mom would so very proud to see me now as a man. I agree with many others who takes the position that matters of death within astrology should not be taken or handled lightly. But where we may part company on, is the fact that it is the astrologer's duty to properly prepare the client for such situations should it become very clear in that person's reality and astrology. I am so very glad that my friend, the Vedic astrologer and monk, took that time with me to discuss these things, in a forthright, yet sensitive manner. It made all the difference. I recently had a consultation with a lady client, who had a very similar Sade Sati situation that I saw back in the same time period as mine. She lost two very close people to her, and while we didn't know each other then, she was very much into what some would consider spiritual practices and she, unknowingly(?) went on a regimen of practices (sweat lodges, meditation, speaking with these loved ones and saying all that had to be said). She said she was so very happy that she had done those things, because she did not have the greivous episodes that many people often have when a loved one passes on (at African American funerals, for example, it is very common to see people literally pass out, often when making the procession round the casket). Our conversation about this time in her life, which I had seen in my preparation notes, was very touching and profound. I have a very good and close friend who has Saturn in the Sidereal sign of Aries in the 7th house of his horoscope. The Moon is in the Sidereal sign of Cancer in the 10th house. Sade Sati was in operation starting in 2002, and since that time his boss, a very good man, passed on, and so did this man's father. At present, this man's mother is hospitalized, with the possibility of cancer involved. We talked the other day about this, and I shared with him my own experiences with such things. I think this has helped him considerably, as he makes preparations for what could happen in due course of time. I have much more to say about Sade Sati, Life, Death and the role the astroloer plays in all of this, but I'll end here. Over the years, dealing with this issue, both from a personal perspective as well as in my practice, I have found it very helpful to meditate on the following words: There is no Emotion; There is Peace There is no Ignorance; There is Knowledge There is no Passion; There is Serenity There is no Death; There is the Force Salaam, Mu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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