2-Gennie, re.her story about how she got into astrology, Mark Kincaid 11/22

November 22, 2004

Dear Gennie:

Nice introduction.

I've had some awful experiences with people telling me bizarre things, too, and/or being particularly negative.

Then I read in Parshara, who's was one of the original Eastern Astrologers, that it's a great

responsibility doing Astrology, and anyone who does it poorly will come back as the worst

kind of toad!

When I read that I got all alerted to be sure and do a really good job, uplifting and conscientious!

Here at Nat. Astrology we have both western & eastern Astrologers so you can learn a lot.

I recomend to people when they're really interested in getting down to the nitty gritty,

that 'you' first make a list of as many of your qualities, aspects of personaly, and characteristics,

then, when you read about your chart, you'll be able to discover what really fits you.

I think it's especially irresponsible to predict such negative things for people, especially,

if a not very thorough chart has been done.

I think it's just a bad habit that a lot of people have, ie. to see the negative, and also, the World has not been emphasizing the real transformative power of Astrology or Life, for a long time, especially in India,...so a lot of that sort of thing exists.

I grew up, however, in the meditation tradition, where I learned the power of consciousness growth and transformation.

So, then, when I started studying Astrology/Jyotish, I took that life-affirming experience to my study and it just seemed that Astrology, too, should be about our opportunities and possibilities!

Welcome again....

Look forward to having you in our group!

Sincerely,

Mark Kincaid

" Tikana.com " <tikana4

Mon, 22 Nov 2004 05:37:32 -0000

here comes a story about how i got into astrology.

HI,

I am Gennie, but most people call me Tik. I was born in russia, a

former USSR. I got into astrology in 1987, when i was 14 years old. My

mom took me to an astrologer, who told me the most horrible things

such as I would be in jail for a murder before i hit 17th birthday, my

severe drug addiction, no kids, appearantly i was to be molested,

obsessed with sex and the list goes on and on and on. When i left her

home, i swear i wanted to get to the bottom of this. Within 2-3 weeks,

I was walking near the Metro near my house and met an astrologer who

was selling books on the subject. I talked to him and he sold me 20th

century empheresis. He quickly showed me how to calculate the chart.

The second book i wanted to buy, I could not afford so i was reading

it every time i was near the metro. After reading basic 101 it for a

couple of weeks, I realized that i did not know my birth time. I asked

my mom. She said " she didnt know "

I did not even bother asking why. I was still haunted to this

astrologer's forecast of my life. Slowly and surely I made a progress.

Astrology took a backseat after my move to the US in 1990. Meanwhile i

was learning other stuff like runes, palmistry and ESP. i went back

hard and deep into astrology in 1992.

Of course, i didnt kill anyone, nor was on drugs (franky, i never did

any drugs), I dont even drink, I did get addicted to astrology, no one

molested me, wasnt obsessed with sex and other stuff.

I asked my mom why she did not know my birthtime. She kept refusing to

give me an aswer, then gave me an astronomical time which was not

real. By that time, i was still weak in astrology. I tried practicing

forecasting on my own chart. I plugged all the dates that were

important, for some strange reason, no events that were related to my

family clicked with anything that was going on in my life. Then

revelation came in that i was adopted. My mom told me after my 18th

birthday. That got me thinking that the birthtime MUST have been

wrong. Still weak in astrology, I started doing a rectification

without even realising it.

I figured it out. So far it works. I was goofing off with astrology

with my friends and readign their charts. Later on, it became as a 2nd

carreer. What i noticed was my eye catches things but i have a fear of

being wrong. So if i am wrong, please let me know. I literally worship

Robert Hand. I love his works. Recently, I found Lyn Bersbeck

(misspelling his name).

just a week ago i was talking to 1 toronto astrologer. It seems like

he was quite famous. I found him as BS!

i told him i wanted a rectification since i dont trust myself. So he

roughly drafted my chart and said that i was born at 3 pm with piesces

rising and i will not have any kids because my saturn falls in 5th

house. his big signal was " ohh 90% of people who do not know their

birthtimne are pisces rising! " 90% of all people do not have a clue

what time they were born. They dont bother figureing out plus in

russia, no one writes birthtime in the birth certificates. Plus my

move to the US is NOWHERE in the chart with pisces rising. Ahh pure BS

again!..

So what I did find that a LOT of astrologers do not THINK that they

are responsible to what they say " yes, it is an enterntainment. "

People go to the astrologers to find answers. My trips through bad

experiences with astrologers made me realize that an astrologer MUST

be conciously responsible what they are saying. No one is 100% perfect

but an astrologer cannot jump to conclusions without deep analysis. I

had clients come up with tapes of the astrological BS. So i became an

advocate of responsible forecasting and natal astrology readings.

My current focuses are natal, transit, solar arcs, synastry, horary

and relocations. I am not touching indian astrology. Western astrology

is enough of a load for me.

SO if you have a chart that you want me to look at, i will look at it

and send you offlist. I might tough sensitive subjects. So i am just

warning you, guys and gals.

So that is that.. thanks for reading and welcoming to this group. I

hope i can bring in some fresh air.

Gennie/Tikana.

dob nov 4, 1975

8:38 am

Baku azerbaijan/russia

November 22, 2004

Mark

I've had some awful experiences with people telling me bizarre things, too, and/or being particularly negative.

*** i swear i just wanted to pull out my shot gun and shoot them * roflmao

Then I read in Parshara, who's was one of the original Eastern Astrologers, that it's a greatresponsibility doing Astrology, and anyone who does it poorly will come back as the worst kind of toad!

*** well, now that brings a new twist to a fairy tale of a prince kissing a frog, which turns into a princess ***When I read that I got all alerted to be sure and do a really good job, uplifting and conscientious!

** thank you. we need more of that. ***Here at Nat. Astrology we have both western & eastern Astrologers so you can learn a lot.

** cool look forward to hanging in cyber world with cool people ***I recomend to people when they're really interested in getting down to the nitty gritty, that 'you' first make a list of as many of your qualities, aspects of personaly, and characteristics, then, when you read about your chart, you'll be able to discover what really fits you.

** I tell that to people as well. **I think it's especially irresponsible to predict such negative things for people, especially,if a not very thorough chart has been done.

** there is no bad chart. I am still puzzled with hitler's chart. what planet or aspect resposible for his actions?**I think it's just a bad habit that a lot of people have, ie. to see the negative, and also, the World has not been emphasizing the real transformative power of Astrology or Life, for a long time, especially in India,...so a lot of that sort of thing exists.* no one has an ideal chart! it's life!*

I grew up, however, in the meditation tradition, where I learned the power of consciousness growth and transformation.

*yepp. i never meditated but always knew "know yourself, you will know the way"So, then, when I started studying Astrology/Jyotish, I took that life-affirming experience to my study and it just seemed that Astrology, too, should be about our opportunities and possibilities!* what astrology gave me is #1 it is the most perfect science above all. You never stop learning. it is a drug in a good way."

Thanks, Marks

G.

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