2- Sreelatha & Gaurav & All:, Mark Kincaid, 8/10.....strength of meditation....

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Dear Friends:

 

I thought you might like to receive this interesting conversation regarding the very important Vedic, Remedy, in meditation.

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

Dear Gaurav Ji,

 

I am very impressed by what you said in your posting:

" The main strength of any meditation or tapas lies in true devotion

> and selfless love to God. Be it whether you do it with or without

> mantras. "

Very true indeed.

 

-Sreelatha

 

 

 

Dear Sreelatha & Gaurav & All:

 

I've been following your conversations regarding meditation. And having meditated myself, for over 33 years, now, I can say, with total conviction.....that meditation is one of the best....

Vedic, or Jyotish, remedies I've ever done!

 

For example, I was born with the Moon in the 12th house, with Saturn, too! and only 1 house away from my Sun in the 11th House, ....Libra Rising..

 

Therefore, I was born very shy, and lonely and prone to almost depression.

 

When I was in college I found meditation, and immediately I started to feel better.

 

When I came how from college break, all of my brothers and sisters....were so impressed with the spontaneous changes in me, that they all learned to meditate, that same very next year.

 

Looking back, now, after all these years....I have to say, the thing I feel has contributed the most to my progress in the unfoldment of Consciousness....and the simultaneous improvements in every area of my life....

 

are most due to just the regular experience of meditating....every day, and every month.

 

Some meditations are deep, and some less so.

 

Some are filled with lots of thoughts, some less so.

 

But, even the very busy meditations, seem to have a very cleansing and positive effect.

 

I'd like to say, therefore, in all humbleness, that I dont' think it's in the way that we meditate, that meditation is sucessful.

 

Devotion, and even concentration or resolute attention, are natural by-products of regular meditation, and are themselves not the best way to meditate.

 

take care

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

ps....for those of you who haven't heard, I also write a Jyotish newsletter that you can to. It primarily focuses on the day to day, Transits, in the Jyotish system and also includes how the Transits, relate to our Charts, and Dasas.

 

You can contact me at: m.kincaid to .

 

Also I've recently started another , called " Nature's Astrology " , which looks at both Western & Eastern Astrologys.../.and....

I also believe in the special importance of Jyotish or Vedic Remedies!

 

 

 

" Venkatarama Sreelatha " <venkatarama_sastry

 

Mon, 09 Aug 2004 15:31:22 -0000

 

Re: Remedies for a querist - realise!

 

 

Dear Gaurav Ji,

 

I am very impressed by what you said in your posting:

" The main strength of any meditation or tapas lies in true devotion

> and selfless love to God. Be it whether you do it with or without

> mantras. "

Very true indeed.

 

-S

 

, " Gaurav Sharma "

<gauravkom> wrote:

> Dear KAD,

>

> -Remedy in jyotisha vedanga is of 3 main parts- Mani (Gems),Mantra

> (sacred recitals),Oushadha(Medicine). For any problem if you do

not

> apply all the three, they never work.

>

> Are you sure about it ? or is it because u found it in charts

(after

> considerable experience of not working) or read it in some books?

or

> did you get it by Upadesha from a proper Guru?

>

> Perhaps the answer to all your queries lies in your post itself.

You

> have mentioned that

>

> " Mantra is a formula discovered or invented by Rishis after a long

> time of meditaion or tapas "

>

> The main strength of any meditation or tapas lies in true devotion

> and selfless love to God. Be it whether you do it with or without

> mantras. Ever wondered how rishis used to do tapas when mantras

> werent there(discovered or invented)?

>

>

> Gaurav

>

>

>

>

> , " hanya_shingyo "

> <kadrudra> wrote:

> > Dear All,

> >

> > SUB: Remedies for a querist - realise!

> >

> > Its really good to know that many came forward to help our

friend

> > suffering from Moon's affliction.

> > Many gave Mantras...others shlokas....and others..pooja types

with

> > intricacies..out of their experiences.

> > But in MOST of those cases, what worked was not mantra nor the

> pooja

> > BUT the BELIEF and concentration

> > because most of those who speak of good result after a JAPA or

> > reciting Mantra would have never done it correctly!

> >

> > What all must understand is that these are all the materialistic

> part

> > of getting results which MUST be backed by

> > concentration, without which they fail to yield any result. SO

what

> > makes something happen or vanish is the

> > MANO-BALA or the mental- strength of a native, which when

> > strengthened can do anything!All JAPA or PUJA or

> > Mantra/Yantra/Tantra are all just aids to make one concentrate

on

> > himself inside to get ANTARANGA-SHUDDHI or

> > inner purification to attain a higher and better KARMIC levels,

> which

> > automatically gets him happiness not

> > only mentally but also materially in all fields. All remedies

must

> > concentrate on making one REALISE that.

> >

> > Otherwise, the querist in view is still more confused as to do

> > what?..pooja? abhisheka?...mantra japa?..yantra?

> > Many suggested Chandra manta....my questions to them..

> > 1.ARE YOU SURE THAT IS THE CHANDRA MANTRA FOR ATTAINING

> RESULTS?..or

> > is it because u did it or read it in some books?

> > or did you get it by UPADESHA from a proper GURU?

> > 2.ARE YOU SURE OF WHAT BEEJAKSHARA(seed letter like som or

> > ksham..etc) MUST BE USED?...

> > 3.DO you know what happends if seed-letter syllable or mantra

> > syllable is wrong?..

> > 4.Are you sure of the procedures to be followed to a JAPA of a

> > mantra?...

> > 5.Are you sure of whatever mantra you suggested is in VEDIC

rules

> of

> > swaras(Udatta-Anudatta-swarita) and

> > whether it works only in samhita/pada/krama/jata/ghana

> > style of recital?

> > 6.Do you know there is an exact procedure of doing every japa of

> > every mantra which never gives any result otherwise?

> >

> > When you KNOW AUTHORITATIVELY all these...you are welcome to

> suggest

> > the querist...otherwise you are MISLEADING him

> > which may worsen the situation.Because Mantra is a formula

> discovered

> > or invented by RISHIs after a long time of

> > meditaion or TAPAS and they HAVE TO BE DONE AS THEY SHOULD

BE...no

> > exception for that. Otherwise simply, they would

> > not work and give results and sometimes they may worsen if done

in

> a

> > wrong way. It is same like a chemical combination

> > formula which gives certain products at certain FIXED conditions

> > only, never otherwise.

> >

> > Am I scaring you of reciting Mantras now?...Yes I mean what I

say.

> So

> > better shift your concentration on REALISING

> > yourself with charity deeds..and recite SHLOKAS...involve

yourself

> in

> > YOUR purification process with meditating techniques.

> > Thats what Adi-Shankaracharya means by saying AHAM

BRAHMASMI..God

> is

> > inside yourself and try to get him out with ur actions.

> > AND I KNOW ALL CAN NOT UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE WHAT I

SAY...but

> it

> > is the Vendantik way..the concluding part of vedas..

> > after giving so many mantras of millions of gods and goddess in

all

> > vedas, they end like this!

> > ...If you can understand what I say, I am happy. Well, critics

are

> > always there.

> >

> > A last bit: Remedy in jyotisha vedanga is of 3 main parts- Mani

> > (Gems),Mantra(sacred recitals),Oushadha(Medicine).

> > For any problem if you do not apply all the three, they never

work.

> I

> > feel personally, simply spending money on

> > getting a puja/yaga/homa done or getting a GEM would never work

if

> > the person's mind is really remote and not involved!

> >

> > yours

> > KAD

 

 

 

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