RE: ---- Bettina 5 re.....Mars & shyness & aggression...

[Guest guest]

Hi Bettina,

 

You are right,Saturn teaches disciplines to other

planets,that's why told saturn in giving his effect to

mars ,that is shyness or not to get to angry.I know

someone who is secreatary,you are right his saturn in

aries ,but of bharani nakshatra,that is good,with 3rd

aspect sees her mercury,moon,mars and sun,that's why

she is good in that secretarial job,but got to work

really hard,But here I have one more thing to say

that I have seen with her ,is that saturn aspect to

mars,so it is sextile also,may that is a reason she is

always very bold with her co-workers.Saturn aspect to

moon may be all the time people doubts her,Satrun

aspect to sun teaches her to destroy her ego,if she

doesn't make turn against her.One more thing saturn

squares venus ,so very shy in heart matters,not at all

expressive.Anything else you would like to discuss

about this cahrt.It is very good example.Saturn

aspects almost all planets.that is a reason nothing

comes very easy for her,she has to strive for each and

every thing from realtionship to money etc.I know her

very well you can comment on these.

 

Her Birth details:

Name:Ms:XYZ

July 2, 1970

Time: 22:04:32

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 72 E 50' 00 "

Latitude: 18 N 18' 00 "

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

 

 

--- Bettina <chiria wrote:

 

 

I don't totally agree. Saturn can have a tempering

effect on the planets

that it aspects, particularly if it's in a good sign.

Take an aspect from

Saturn to Mars, for example. Mars is exalted in

Saturn's sign, Capricorn,

and Saturn disciplines Mars. The result can be an

affinity for hard work

and self control. Mars by itself is often impulsive

and taken to extremes,

aggressive. Saturn gives it direction. Mars, on the

other hand, does not

have a good effect on Saturn. Mars simply frustrates

Saturn, often resulting

in anger and hostility. Mars is an enemy to Saturn,

but Saturn is neutral to

Mars. Saturn is not always the bugbear we make it out

to be. At it's best

it's a disciplinarian and a temperer. It's karmic

sandpaper.

 

Let's take a look at Saturn when combined with some of

the other planets.

In aspect to Jupiter, it keeps that planet from being

too blown up, too

given to aggrandizement and limitlessness.

Saturn/Jupiter aspects often

show up in the charts of deeply spiritual or

philosophical people. Combined

with Venus, it makes for loyalty and the ability to

put up with adversity in

relationships (and there always will be adversity in

relationships, esp. the

big ones like marriage!). You won't find

flibbertigibbets (sp?) with good

Saturn/Venus combinations! Combined with Mercury it

can indicate a well

organized person. I've known many secretaries with

that combination. In

rare cases there may even be brilliant thinkers with

this (eg Einstein).

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Shirpal, I would like to do the chart you gave the bd for, and also make

some comments on the horoscope of Krishnajee, who posted his info yesterday,

but I have a super-busy weekend, so it'll be a couple of days.

 

.... Bettina

 

 

 

 

 

Shripal [askvbnet]

Friday, August 06, 2004 10:34 PM

 

RE: ----> Bettina 5 re.....Mars & shyness &

aggression...

 

 

Hi Bettina,

 

You are right,Saturn teaches disciplines to other

planets,that's why told saturn in giving his effect to

mars ,that is shyness or not to get to angry.I know

someone who is secreatary,you are right his saturn in

aries ,but of bharani nakshatra,that is good,with 3rd

aspect sees her mercury,moon,mars and sun,that's why

she is good in that secretarial job,but got to work

really hard,But here I have one more thing to say

that I have seen with her ,is that saturn aspect to

mars,so it is sextile also,may that is a reason she is

always very bold with her co-workers.Saturn aspect to

moon may be all the time people doubts her,Satrun

aspect to sun teaches her to destroy her ego,if she

doesn't make turn against her.One more thing saturn

squares venus ,so very shy in heart matters,not at all

expressive.Anything else you would like to discuss

about this cahrt.It is very good example.Saturn

aspects almost all planets.that is a reason nothing

comes very easy for her,she has to strive for each and

every thing from realtionship to money etc.I know her

very well you can comment on these.

 

Her Birth details:

Name:Ms:XYZ

July 2, 1970

Time: 22:04:32

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 72 E 50' 00 "

Latitude: 18 N 18' 00 "

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

 

 

--- Bettina <chiria wrote:

 

 

I don't totally agree. Saturn can have a tempering

effect on the planets

that it aspects, particularly if it's in a good sign.

Take an aspect from

Saturn to Mars, for example. Mars is exalted in

Saturn's sign, Capricorn,

and Saturn disciplines Mars. The result can be an

affinity for hard work

and self control. Mars by itself is often impulsive

and taken to extremes,

aggressive. Saturn gives it direction. Mars, on the

other hand, does not

have a good effect on Saturn. Mars simply frustrates

Saturn, often resulting

in anger and hostility. Mars is an enemy to Saturn,

but Saturn is neutral to

Mars. Saturn is not always the bugbear we make it out

to be. At it's best

it's a disciplinarian and a temperer. It's karmic

sandpaper.

 

Let's take a look at Saturn when combined with some of

the other planets.

In aspect to Jupiter, it keeps that planet from being

too blown up, too

given to aggrandizement and limitlessness.

Saturn/Jupiter aspects often

show up in the charts of deeply spiritual or

philosophical people. Combined

with Venus, it makes for loyalty and the ability to

put up with adversity in

relationships (and there always will be adversity in

relationships, esp. the

big ones like marriage!). You won't find

flibbertigibbets (sp?) with good

Saturn/Venus combinations! Combined with Mercury it

can indicate a well

organized person. I've known many secretaries with

that combination. In

rare cases there may even be brilliant thinkers with

this (eg Einstein).

 

 

=====

" Life is a sleep, love is its dream; And you'll have lived if you've loved "

 

______________________

India Matrimony: Find your life partner online

Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Shirpal ...

 

 

Yes, Ms. XYZ does indeed have Saturn aspecting many planets. Note, though,

that Jupiter trines all the Gemini planets (and asc) as well. Probably the

combination gives a seriousness of purpose and a positive attitude, though

Saturn's position in Aries can be a frustrating one. Possibly she has a

difficult time achieving patience. It's very important to her to master what

she does. Jupiter/Moon aspects usually indicate an ability to absorb

information and learn with ease. The strong J would also give her a

sophisticated quality.

 

Her Moon is in a bit of a difficult spot as it's at the end of its cycle and

has almost returned to the Sun, but the trine from Jupiter and cnj to

Mercury in its own sign must help.

 

Her navamsa Moon conjoins Saturn, so that gives that emotional

conservativeness and staying with the traditional ways that lots of us have

been talking about.

 

Jupiter in 9th shows that the father is/was likely to be successful in some

way. Since J rules 11 and 2, both money houses, he may be/have been

wealthy.

 

 

..... Bettina

 

 

 

 

 

Shripal [askvbnet]

Friday, August 06, 2004 10:34 PM

 

RE: ----> Bettina 5 re.....Mars & shyness &

aggression...

 

 

Hi Bettina,

 

You are right,Saturn teaches disciplines to other

planets,that's why told saturn in giving his effect to

mars ,that is shyness or not to get to angry.I know

someone who is secreatary,you are right his saturn in

aries ,but of bharani nakshatra,that is good,with 3rd

aspect sees her mercury,moon,mars and sun,that's why

she is good in that secretarial job,but got to work

really hard,But here I have one more thing to say

that I have seen with her ,is that saturn aspect to

mars,so it is sextile also,may that is a reason she is

always very bold with her co-workers.Saturn aspect to

moon may be all the time people doubts her,Satrun

aspect to sun teaches her to destroy her ego,if she

doesn't make turn against her.One more thing saturn

squares venus ,so very shy in heart matters,not at all

expressive.Anything else you would like to discuss

about this cahrt.It is very good example.Saturn

aspects almost all planets.that is a reason nothing

comes very easy for her,she has to strive for each and

every thing from realtionship to money etc.I know her

very well you can comment on these.

 

Her Birth details:

Name:Ms:XYZ

July 2, 1970

Time: 22:04:32

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 72 E 50' 00 "

Latitude: 18 N 18' 00 "

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

 

 

--- Bettina <chiria wrote:

 

 

I don't totally agree. Saturn can have a tempering

effect on the planets

that it aspects, particularly if it's in a good sign.

Take an aspect from

Saturn to Mars, for example. Mars is exalted in

Saturn's sign, Capricorn,

and Saturn disciplines Mars. The result can be an

affinity for hard work

and self control. Mars by itself is often impulsive

and taken to extremes,

aggressive. Saturn gives it direction. Mars, on the

other hand, does not

have a good effect on Saturn. Mars simply frustrates

Saturn, often resulting

in anger and hostility. Mars is an enemy to Saturn,

but Saturn is neutral to

Mars. Saturn is not always the bugbear we make it out

to be. At it's best

it's a disciplinarian and a temperer. It's karmic

sandpaper.

 

Let's take a look at Saturn when combined with some of

the other planets.

In aspect to Jupiter, it keeps that planet from being

too blown up, too

given to aggrandizement and limitlessness.

Saturn/Jupiter aspects often

show up in the charts of deeply spiritual or

philosophical people. Combined

with Venus, it makes for loyalty and the ability to

put up with adversity in

relationships (and there always will be adversity in

relationships, esp. the

big ones like marriage!). You won't find

flibbertigibbets (sp?) with good

Saturn/Venus combinations! Combined with Mercury it

can indicate a well

organized person. I've known many secretaries with

that combination. In

rare cases there may even be brilliant thinkers with

this (eg Einstein).

 

 

=====

" Life is a sleep, love is its dream; And you'll have lived if you've loved "

 

______________________

India Matrimony: Find your life partner online

Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

About wealth I really odn't know,What I know she

really doesn't have car,bungalow.But she she is not

greedy for money,spend's like anything.She started

working from a age of 21-22.Mainly because of saturn

in Aries.She is going to have saturn Mahadasa from

November onwards and

first kid by december.Can predict something about her

future with saturn dasa.And relationship between her

and kid.I told her you are going to have a son and

Intelligent one and it will be very lucky for you.You

are correct she has to improve her moon and saturn is

making her impatient.Not even single day goes without

talking to her mother.She really doesn't know what she

wants and whom she wants.And if she realises it than

become to scared of loosing him.Sometimes it becomes

really hard to understand a person like her.She is

really good in freindship.Her rahu is strong in 1st

house,that is a reason she able to attaract massess.

 

 

--- Bettina <chiria wrote:

 

 

Shirpal ...

 

 

Yes, Ms. XYZ does indeed have Saturn aspecting many

planets. Note, though,

that Jupiter trines all the Gemini planets (and asc)

as well. Probably the

combination gives a seriousness of purpose and a

positive attitude, though

Saturn's position in Aries can be a frustrating one.

Possibly she has a

difficult time achieving patience. It's very important

to her to master what

she does. Jupiter/Moon aspects usually indicate an

ability to absorb

information and learn with ease. The strong J would

also give her a

sophisticated quality.

 

Her Moon is in a bit of a difficult spot as it's at

the end of its cycle and

has almost returned to the Sun, but the trine from

Jupiter and cnj to

Mercury in its own sign must help.

 

Her navamsa Moon conjoins Saturn, so that gives that

emotional

conservativeness and staying with the traditional ways

that lots of us have

been talking about.

 

Jupiter in 9th shows that the father is/was likely to

be successful in some

way. Since J rules 11 and 2, both money houses, he

may be/have been

wealthy.

 

 

..... Bettina

 

 

=====

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______________________

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[Guest guest]

I thought her father might be wealthy (and/or have some successful

position). She might not be affected by it. Does she live in India? Funny.

My son's girlfriend was born just a few days before Ms. XYZ. There are a

lot of similarities.

 

 

.... Bettina

 

 

 

 

 

Shripal [askvbnet]

Monday, August 09, 2004 11:08 PM

 

RE: ----> Bettina 5 re.....Mars & shyness &

aggression...

 

 

Hi,

 

About wealth I really odn't know,What I know she

really doesn't have car,bungalow.But she she is not

greedy for money,spend's like anything.She started

working from a age of 21-22.Mainly because of saturn

in Aries.She is going to have saturn Mahadasa from

November onwards and

first kid by december.Can predict something about her

future with saturn dasa.And relationship between her

and kid.I told her you are going to have a son and

Intelligent one and it will be very lucky for you.You

are correct she has to improve her moon and saturn is

making her impatient.Not even single day goes without

talking to her mother.She really doesn't know what she

wants and whom she wants.And if she realises it than

become to scared of loosing him.Sometimes it becomes

really hard to understand a person like her.She is

really good in freindship.Her rahu is strong in 1st

house,that is a reason she able to attaract massess.

 

 

--- Bettina <chiria wrote:

 

 

Shirpal ...

 

 

Yes, Ms. XYZ does indeed have Saturn aspecting many

planets. Note, though,

that Jupiter trines all the Gemini planets (and asc)

as well. Probably the

combination gives a seriousness of purpose and a

positive attitude, though

Saturn's position in Aries can be a frustrating one.

Possibly she has a

difficult time achieving patience. It's very important

to her to master what

she does. Jupiter/Moon aspects usually indicate an

ability to absorb

information and learn with ease. The strong J would

also give her a

sophisticated quality.

 

Her Moon is in a bit of a difficult spot as it's at

the end of its cycle and

has almost returned to the Sun, but the trine from

Jupiter and cnj to

Mercury in its own sign must help.

 

Her navamsa Moon conjoins Saturn, so that gives that

emotional

conservativeness and staying with the traditional ways

that lots of us have

been talking about.

 

Jupiter in 9th shows that the father is/was likely to

be successful in some

way. Since J rules 11 and 2, both money houses, he

may be/have been

wealthy.

 

 

..... Bettina

 

 

=====

" Life is a sleep, love is its dream; And you'll have lived if you've loved "

 

______________________

India Matrimony: Find your life partner online

Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

No his father is not that wealthy,Ya she lives in

INDIA.Can you sent your son's girlfriend date of

birth.I would like to comment on that.So that we can

match a similarities between these two individual.You

haven't predict about her future.

 

 

--- Bettina <chiria wrote:

 

> I thought her father might be wealthy (and/or have

> some successful

> position). She might not be affected by it. Does

> she live in India? Funny.

> My son's girlfriend was born just a few days before

> Ms. XYZ. There are a

> lot of similarities.

>

>

> ... Bettina

>

>

>

>

>

> Shripal [askvbnet]

> Monday, August 09, 2004 11:08 PM

>

> RE: ----> Bettina 5

> re.....Mars & shyness &

> aggression...

>

>

> Hi,

>

> About wealth I really odn't know,What I know she

> really doesn't have car,bungalow.But she she is not

> greedy for money,spend's like anything.She started

> working from a age of 21-22.Mainly because of saturn

> in Aries.She is going to have saturn Mahadasa from

> November onwards and

> first kid by december.Can predict something about

> her

> future with saturn dasa.And relationship between her

> an

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Probably the potential of Jupiter in 9 is is diminished by the op. from

Saturn. What is her father's position?

 

Son's gf (we'll call her Lois Bean, not her real name): Jun. 28, 1970, 10:41

AM, Manhasset, NY, USA, 40N48/73W42.

 

I'm not really into telling the future, unless I see a big fat transit

coming up, or an outstanding Solar Return. There are two reasons: one is

that I don't really know how, and I could be wrong and mislead someone, and

the other is that I think it's best just to live life the best you can, and

let the future happen. Of course, there are times when you'll want to be

extra cautious, as when under a strong Mars transit, or leap at a wonderful

opportunity, as with Jupiter.

 

 

.... Bettina

 

 

 

 

Shripal [d_shripal]

Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:33 PM

 

RE: ----> Bettina 5 re.....Mars & shyness &

aggression...

 

 

Hi,

 

No his father is not that wealthy,Ya she lives in

INDIA.Can you sent your son's girlfriend date of

birth.I would like to comment on that.So that we can

match a similarities between these two individual.You

haven't predict about her future.

 

 

--- Bettina <chiria wrote:

 

> I thought her father might be wealthy (and/or have

> some successful

> position). She might not be affected by it. Does

> she live in India? Funny.

> My son's girlfriend was born just a few days before

> Ms. XYZ. There are a

> lot of similarities.

>

>

> ... Bettina

>

>

>

>

>

> Shripal [askvbnet]

> Monday, August 09, 2004 11:08 PM

>

> RE: ----> Bettina 5

> re.....Mars & shyness &

> aggression...

>

>

> Hi,

>

> About wealth I really odn't know,What I know she

> really doesn't have car,bungalow.But she she is not

> greedy for money,spend's like anything.She started

> working from a age of 21-22.Mainly because of saturn

> in Aries.She is going to have saturn Mahadasa from

> November onwards and

> first kid by december.Can predict something about

> her

> future with saturn dasa.And relationship between her

> an

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

Miss XYZ's chart analysis,that I have done.

She is secretary for a last 11 yrs in same company,but

acts like a boss towards her co-workers.Her boss is

attaracted towards her currently and suddendly,and she

knows every detail of almost every body.Has boy

friend from around mar 2001,she lets he is very very

good friend,but I don't know how is truth in

that,because rahu in aquarius lagna and in navmasa

venus in aquarius ,so got to have affair.But both

charts have good aspect of jupiter,so she will be very

truthful,I guess never will cross limits,What you

say.Venus s not that weak in her chart.Loves her

husband a lot.Moon is very weak,so always

impatient,one more reason for impatient is saturn in

aries in 3rd house.Very nice girl.Salary is very

good,being in same organization for last 10 years.If

you see her dasamsa venus and sun in scopio in 10th

house ,squaring with mars from lagna.Jupiter in 9th

aspects mars,that is a reason she is very strong in

office,very commanding and in harmonious with

co-workers,even makes her these venus to do little

flirt.Because moon is very weak she is going to have a

hard time forgetting any body.Always feels

unsecure.Her chart is stronger than her husband's

chart.Mercury is strong,so she know how to get work

done from his collegues.Would you like to comment

futher on these.Saturn is in bharani nakshatra,that

time will be really good for her.Saturn will pay a

dividend for all her hard working from age of 19th

when she started working.Only she has to take care of

her health.

 

--- Bettina <chiria wrote:

 

> Probably the potential of Jupiter in 9 is is

> diminished by the op. from

> Saturn. What is her father's position?

>

> Son's gf (we'll call her Lois Bean, not her real

> name): Jun. 28, 1970, 10:41

> AM, Manhasset, NY, USA, 40N48/73W42.

>

> I'm not really into telling the future, unless I see

> a big fat transit

> coming up, or an outstanding Solar Return. There

> are two reasons: one is

> that I don't really know how, and I could be wrong

> and mislead someone, and

> the other is that I think it's best just to live

> life the best you can, and

> let the future happen. Of course, there are times

> when you'll want to be

> extra cautious, as when under a strong Mars transit,

> or leap at a wonderful

> opportunity, as with Jupiter.

>

>

> ... Bettina

>

>

>

>

> Shripal [d_shripal]

> Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:33 PM

>

> RE: ----> Bettina 5

> re.....Mars & shyness &

> aggression...

>

>

> Hi,

>

> No his father is not that wealthy,Ya she lives in

> INDIA.Can you sent your son's girlfriend date of

> birth.I would like to comment on that.So that we can

> match a similarities between these two

> individual.You

> haven't predict about her future.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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