On The Question of Visha Kanya, & Other Poisonous People...

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Hi All,

 

I've received all the responses and the like from those interested in

my quieries regarding VK, and I greatly appreciate it. I just haven't

had the time to devote to clean up my mailboxes and the like, been so

very busy out in the Real...but I wanted to post my previous writings

on VK (which orginally appeared on the Noel Tyl website, Forum

section, my own astro forum PAF and other venues), hopefully this'll

help clear things up. I'll try to respond to those who sent along

their birth data, and of course, if you have any questions, please

feel free to email me.

 

Here we go...

 

Salaam,

Mu

 

" Poison Maidens " : Clarification and Considerations of Visha Kanya, &

Mu's Study

 

Mon, Mar 1, 2004

 

Hello All,

 

I see that since my request for research data, there has been

something of a misunderstanding of sorts. I take full responsibility

for the confusion. I should have handled that earlier, been much

clearer in my request and reasoning for data.

 

I will attempt to clarify now.

 

In the canons of Vedic Astrology, which reach back several thousands

of years in written form, are literally thousands of maxims,

obserations and commentaries on the myriad of astrological

combinations extant and their potential effects on humankind. Among

these, is the very rare and obscure combination, known as Visha

Kanya.

 

The term " Visha Kanya " means " Poison Maiden " and refers to young

women who have in thier charts specific combinations that portend

early widowhood. This combination occurs when certain Naksatras (the

Moon in certain Lunar Zodiac Signs, used in Vedic Astrology) coincide

with certain days of the week (Vara) and certain Lunar Days of the

month (Tithi) in the horoscope of a female. The resulting

combination, if not mitigated by beneficial planetary caveats, is

said to bring the early death of the mate.

 

In the days of yore, in India, kings and potentates would round up

such women who were identified as Visha Kanya by the court astrologer

(s) while still girls, and then we fed small, but steadily increasing

does of poison over the years. When they reached womanhood,

these " poison maidens " were thoroughly toxic and ready for use on any

potential enemy the king desired. The king would offer his enemy one

of the women from his " stable " , and before long, the enemy would fall

dead, the result of spending a night " embracing " such a woman.

 

Today, of course, no such practice exists, and rightly so - but

still, there is something to be said for the presence of such

combinations in a woman's horoscope. But so too, is the need to keep

everything within context.

 

In today's climate, Visha Kanya can and often does represent a woman

who still experiences early widowhood (a husband who dies before the

age of 40), as well as a heightened susceptibility to poisons, like

drugs, alcohol and so on. Additionally, eating disorders difficult to

diagnose diseases and general all around ill-health can be expected.

 

In his Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra, Parasara states that a Visha

Kanya will give birth to stillborn children, and will have a diseased

organ. We can take this to mean, that Visha Kanya women will have

much more above-average difficulty bearing children; indeed they be

stillborn, or she may have to suffer several miscarriages. In these

days and times, it is quite possible that she may have had a good

number of abortions. We can also assume, in this day and age, that a

Visha Kanya woman may have above average reproductive organ

difficulties.

 

Because the idea of longevity - both of the marriage (today live-in

long term relationship) and the individual spouses themselves - is

such a high priority in India, this combination is considered to be

among the most problematic.

 

In today's society, where divorce is exceedingly high (and this is

becoming more and more of a reality in India as well), Visha Kanya

women may experience a higher than normal divorce rate, or in some

way, the relationships they may attempt to build " die " prematurely.

 

It must be said that the sages do give specific caveats for such

conditions; this along with the very stringent qualifications for one

having Visha Kanya, makes its likelihood very rare. For example, I

have been searching all over the internet as well as in my circles

out in the real world, and to date, I only have two charts in my

database - and they only surfaced a few days ago (and I deeply,

deeply thank the owners of those two horoscopes!)! So, one need not

be too concerned with this combination, because of its rarity and

numerous caveats make it, for most of us, a non-issue.

 

It is said that there are several ways in which one can identify a

Visha Kanya without the aid of a horoscope; one of those methods

employs the use of Palmistry, Astrology's " Sister Science " in India.

In fact, it is very common for a Vedic Astrologer there to inspect

your hand rather than your horoscope, for the details of the latter

are literally, in the palms of your hands.

 

A Visha Kanya hand is said to be narrow and long, particularly the

fingers; the palms are whitish or yellowish in color, and the lines

very, very faint. There is also supposed to be some very deep lines

on the wrist right under the palm, where you would buckle your watch

on the underside of your wrist. Having some basic knowledge of

Palmistry, again I have not personally seen such a palm/hand.

 

My reason for conducting reasearch on this phenomenon is due to my

larger research on the question of marital and relationship

compatibility potential. Vedic Astrology has several " red light

warning " signals to give the astrologer a " heads up " on a particular

horoscope and its potential to portend a blissful relationship

existence. As many who have been in a long-term relationship or

marriage knows, there is nothing more miserable in the entire world

than to be yoked to someone who makes your life a living hell.

 

Another reason for my curiousity about this state of affairs - Visha

Kanya - was because in our Humanistic age, surely there had to be

ways to counterbalance its potential effects/circumstances. I have

yet to get that far though, mainly because again, finding living

examples of this combination is so very hard to begin with.

 

In today's world, where the genders are more equal than they have

ever been, it has been suggested to me in email by the curious and by

my friends and colleagues, that Visha Kanya could be operative in the

lives of males. To date I have not tested this, but I intend to, as

soon as I can verify the observations of the classical and ancient

texts with regard to women. However, I can say, that I do happen to

know a male who has a very strong Visha Kanya, and he has attracted a

great number of women into his life who have taken him through all

manner of relationship and marital misery. Additionally, this man has

severe clinical depression, and has recently gone on antidepressant

drugs to stem the flow of these feelings. He is also a chain-smoker.

Though one case study in no way makes for a compelling research, it

occurs to me that perhaps many of the indications of Visha Kanya in a

woman's chart can equally apply to a man's, and in any event, the

propensity for addictive behavior and hyper-sensitive body systematic

concerns appears to be an equal-opportunity potential.

 

I have also been asked as to whether this combination could operate

in the charts of Lesbians and/or Gay men - my answer, at this early

juncture, is that I do not know. Only testing this out, against the

maxims of the sages, will reveal the answers we seek.

 

So, to summarize: I am conducting reasearch on an obscure, but

powerful horoscope condition called Visha Kanya, the Poison Maiden.

It is constituted by a woman being born on certain days of the week,

during a certain phase of the Moon, while the Moon itself is placed

in certain stars. In addition to its classical potential of early

widowhood and chronic infertility, we can also add to this list of

probables the potentials of hyper-sensitivity and ultra-

susceptibility to drugs, alcohol, smoking, eating disorders and any

other form of life-threatening addictive behaviors. The health

profile of such women, particularly as it relates to childbearing, is

rendered suspect.

 

Any or all of these are factors that work strongly against felicity

in marital life.

 

Aside from the rarity of this condition, there are several caveats

astrologically, to this state of affairs; therefore, most people need

not be alarmed or concerned. Only a handful (pardon the pun) of

people - women or men - will have this combination " in full bloom " at

any give time. It is these people I am in search of. Upon finding

such people my intention is to ascertain the veracity of the

statements of the sages, and to look into ways in which this

condition can be ameliorated. This is the way of the Humanistic

Astrologer in the 12st century.

 

These are the factors I intend to investigate.

 

I am hopeful that I have clarified the matter, and again I offer my

apologies to everyone that I hadn't done so sooner.

 

Salaam,

Mu

 

Two Very Prominent Examples of Visha Kanya - and More Observations

 

Thu, Mar 4, 2004

 

In my study of Visha Kanya, which I have shared with the Forum, I

have begun to collect many private case examples. Several of them

align perfectly with the writings of the sages in the classical texts

in Vedic Astrology, and others have " fit " into the classification of

Visha Kanya by way of my " updating " the formulation of this planetary

condition. The permutations I have seen, allow for an expansion of

the principles. This, in my view, is how Astrology evolves, keeps

pace with the times, remains relevant.

 

In Western Astrology, we have seen the evolution of Saturn the Great

Malefic to the concept of Saturn as necessary controls.

Peregrination, once a concept within the Middle Ages period of

Western Astrology that suggested a planet in a sign that had no

intrinsic connection to that sign, now suggests a part of the psyche

that demands recognition from all the other behaviors (planets) in

the horoscope.

 

Instead of a " foriegn " sign placement, today's Peregrination is

predicated on the planet in question having no connection by way of

standard asepct to any other body. This, in my view, was pure

brilliance and genius on the part of Mr. Tyl; it demonstrated his

keen grasp of the essence of what it means for a planet to be " alien "

to the rest of the chart, and expanded the formulation of that

planetary condition, keeping in mind the psychological age that we

now live in.

He showed that the master astrologer is not the one who merely learns

rules and maxims from any book and them simply regurgitates them, but

rather, is the one that is able to get to the essence of those

concepts and expand them to meet the demands of the environment when

necessary.

 

This is what I have done with Visha Kanya.

 

Originally, the classics stated that the woman in question had to be

born on certain days of the week, on specific Lunar Days, with the

Moon being in certain stars.

 

After much meditation on this matter, I have reworked the principle

so that, while it still remains true to its " ancestor " principles, it

has a broader application.

 

So, what I've done is, instead of looking for those specific Lunar

Days, I just consider the Moon waning in its phase, losing light on

the day that the female birth occured. I still adhere, for the most

part, to the other two major ingredients for this

" recipe " , that being that the week day and star that the Moon is

placed.

 

Still, I have found some " caveats " , which Vedic Astrology always has

recognized; there are always exceptions to any " rule " .

 

What we're really looking at here, when considering Visha Kanya, is

the Moon in an extreme state of debility, since the main determinants

have to do with the Moon's placement, either by star, phase or day of

the week. The Malefics (yes, they are still referred to that way in

Vedic Astrology, and for good reason; more on this point

later), the character builders of the zodiac - namely Mars, Saturn

and Rahu (Moon's North Node) - have a huge impact here, just

indirectly, through the stars and days of the week that they own

rather than making direct planetary aspects to/on the Moon in the

birth chart. The phase of the Moon becomes important, both in tems of

inherent strength and as well in the fact that Vedic astrology

considers a Waning or Dark Moon to be on par with any first rate

Malefic.

 

Additionally, since the Moon has an increased " say " in the life of

women, this condition is considered even more of a problematic state

of affairs for any woman born when such celestial conditions are

extant. In any event, Visha Kanya is yet another example of the way

in which planetary connections can be formed in Vedic Astrology,

through something as simple as a calendar connection.

 

The following are two very prominent examples of what I like to call

variants, or " functional " Visha Kanya:

 

1. Jacqueline Kennedy Onasis - Born on Sunday, on a Waning Moon, with

the Moon in Sidereal Aries. Actually, this combination calls for the

Moon to be in the Naksatra (Lunar Zodiac sign used in Jyotish; there

is no equivalent in Western astrology) Bharani - but Jackie O's Moon

falls in the star right before it, Asvini. This star is ruled by

Ketu, the Moon's South Node, known in Vedic astrology as one half of

the serpent demonlike being who tried to steal the nectar of

immortality. Additionally, this Moon is what is known as Gandanta,

being right at the beginning of a Fire Sign

(much more complex than I'm making it sound, more on this later). We

can add in the fact that, in her natal chart, the Moon is placed in

the 7th House, and is conjunct Rahu, the Moon's North Node. Among

other things, the classical texts state that Rahu in the 7th House

can bring about separations from the spouse, up to and including

death. The confluence of factors, speak for themselves in Jackie O's

life - she was widowed - twice.

 

2. Princess Diana - Born on Saturday, on a Waning Moon, with the Moon

in Dhanista (a Naksatra that falls in Sidereal Aquarius). Although

for this combination, Satabisha, the star that follows Dhanista in

the Sidereal sign of Aquarius, should be the preferred star, again we

can expand the classical principle of Visha Kanya when other factors

satisfy the formation of this combination and when the reality fits.

Everyone knows of Diana's marriage, its beginning, decline and end,

as well as her affair with Dodi Al-Fayed. While the former

union " died " in the sense that she

divorced Prince Charles, in the latter case, Visha Kanya here

definitely played a role in the death of Al-Fayed. It has been widely

rumored that, had they live, Diana and Dodi would have married. In

that they were very much involved with each other, we can agai expand

the principle to include " close boyfriends " along with husbands.

 

Also, we have to consider the fact that Diana yet again met the

conditions of Visha Kanya in light of the fact that she had a long

bout with the eating disorder bulemia.

 

Finally, Diana's Moon in Dhanista in and of itself could suggest

marital difficulty, as this is a star that is notorious for marital

strife. Its rulership by Mars and it being placed in a sign of

Saturn, could explain why this star is so very difficult in this

regard.

 

I'm working on finding more prominent examples of Visha Kanya, both

female and male, as well as working on how Visha Kanya gets activated

in terms of timing in the horoscope. And, of course, I have plans

towards finding ways of remediating such conditions.

 

Thanks to the Forum for your continued interest.

 

Salaam,

Mu