Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 Arthyr ... Just that in its sign of exaltation it functions at its best. Seems like getting an aspect from an exalted planet should be more beneficial to the planet that receives the aspect than if it were in the sign of its fall. Also, the houses ruled by a planet which is exalted (everything else being equal) should benefit. How about you? .... Bettina Arthyr [awc99] Saturday, May 29, 2004 12:17 PM Exaltaltion formally Gandanta Hi Bettina, When you say that Saturn is exalted. . . or that Jupiter is exalted, just what does that say or mean to you? At 11:02 AM 5/29/2004 -0700, Bettina wrote: <Greatly snipped> >I'm mulling over your friend's chart. The first thing that strikes me is >that her asc ruler is in 4th in its fall, but cnj 9th ruler Jupiter in its >exaltation (as well as to Uranus). Then, we have a sq from exalted Saturn >to that combination. It's a kind of a giving and a taking away. See you in the stars, Arthyr, http://TheSunsetChart.com " Making Ancient Astrology Work for You " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 At 12:59 PM 5/29/2004 -0700, Bettina wrote: >Arthyr ... Bettina. . . >B>Just that in its sign of exaltation it functions at its best. A> Taken as implied, the Sun in 19* Aries is exalted = " trinal " house from its ruling domain - the house of Leo benefits as well as any planets within Leo. Now, does the Sun benefit as well? The position of this exaltation would represent the king using his personal powers to protect the country and its people. Think Roman emperors . . . all born in August regardless of their actual birthday! Moon 3* Taurus = sextile to its domain, active moon in a active sign. Does this energize the sign of Cancer? Or, does the Moon become Taurean by nature. In early times, the bull represented seminal fluids and therefore virility. With the Moon representing Cancer as the sign of fecundity, early spring becomes a definite candidate for Moon in Taurus. Think first new moon after the spring equinox in earlier times when Taurus was the vernal point. Mercury exalted 15* Virgo. . . Why? I've noticed Mercury more beneficial in air signs! This one escapes me. Is Mercury exalted here because the young temple virgins in ancient times had first choice in the early morning harvest for those empowered in high office? I'm sure that the field workers " enjoyed " watching those girls choose and pick the best fruits and vegetables every morning leaving " slim pickin's " for the farmers who worked so hard in the fields. Venus in 27* Pisces suggests that Venus should be a nurse or a drunkard but how does the house of Taurus and Libra fair with this position? Ritual baths were associated with spirituality and God. Perhaps the metaphor " pleasure and cleanliness is next to Godliness " came out of this placement. Cleanliness was rare in early times so perhaps the idea of Venus in Pisces represented the " power of the Bull " in social context within the temples of prostitutes. Jupiter Either 5* 0r 15* Cancer. . . a quincunx to it's domain (a 1-8 combination) seems unlikely as a place of benefit as inconjuncts usually create frustrations. But, as early farmers might note, large families create a much-needed helpful hands not to mention the death rate of infants at that time. Yes, a fruitful wife who could produce 15 to 18 children would certainly be welcomed chattel. Saturn 21* Libra = Square to its domain suggesting disrespect from the criminal element. . . however, with Saturn in Libra, one can understand the " balance with social concerns " or justice that Saturn is so well respected for. Saturn was the Law of the Land and here we can easily see how early astrologers might incorporate the two. . . however, then as it is today, justice is for those who can afford it. Mars in 28* Capricorn square its domain = again creates disrespect for the social, well being of the populace. Personal power with " might makes right " as the signature. In early " war-fair " the power of the sword was paramount and swift victories were the desired outcome in a country's imperialistic expansion. > Seems like getting an aspect from an exalted planet should be more > beneficial to the >planet that receives the aspect than if it were in the sign of its fall. This makes a lot of sense. However, as we have seen, often a planet in its fall but in a malefic position by house or aspect " brightens up. " >Also, the houses ruled by a planet which is exalted (everything else being >equal) should benefit. This is what I have always adhered to. . . just sometimes, the exaltation seems to bring on more problems than benefit. . . too much of a good thing? >How about you? The house is the benefactor of the ruler in exaltation. Like knowing someone well positioned in society willing to help out in suspicious circumstances. I always wondered if I would ever run across (a male) someone with the Sun in Aries, Mars in Capricorn and Saturn in Libra. . . or perhaps a woman with Venus in Pisces, Jupiter in Cancer and her Mercury in Virgo. . . anyone have a chart like that???? See you in the stars, Arthyr, http://TheSunsetChart.com " Making Ancient Astrology Work for You " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hi, Arthyr ... Thanks for the educational response! A lot of information there. I have noticed that when someone has an exalted planet in a house, unless it's severely afflicted, the affairs of that house seem to go pretty well. Example: I have exalted Mercury in 4th and in my adult life (actually from the age of 30 on), I've had good luck with real estate matters. At that time my h and I bought a plain little stucco home, and 28 yrs. later sold it for 12 times what we paid. With part of what we made, we bought a nicer home in a cheaper area. Also, we inherited some rental property and did pretty well with the money we made with the rent, later sold it for a fairly good amount. Now, since my h and I are in this together, I should tell you what's going on with his 4th. Asc ruler Moon inhabits it. It's a full Moon, considered auspicious in Vedic. Full asp from exalted Sun. Venus, ruler of 4th and a natural benefic, also throws full aspect to 4th and Moon. In Vedic a planet asp'ing its own house supposedly strengthens that house. Also, V rules 11th of gain. It's not that we're rich or live in Beverly Hills or anything, it's just that that particular aspect of our lives has been fortunate. Another example: a relative has a very successful (by today's standards!!!) marriage. She married at 18 and is still married today at 49. She's a very bright woman and could have done many things (she does indeed have a profession, S rules 10th), so it's not as though it was her only option. She has exalted Saturn in 7th. It has a trine from 9th ruler J in Gemini. Also, V, ruler of 7th is exalted. Another thing: consider the body parts ruled by the houses. 12th rules feet. I have exalted Moon in 12th, and this may sound silly, but I think I have very pretty feet. I've often thought, " Dang! If only my face could be as nice looking as my feet! " But, Oh Well. And so on and so forth. Oh, and back to my Mercury in 4th, I also have a good relationship with my Mom, whom I adore. .... Bettina Arthyr [awc99] Saturday, May 29, 2004 10:53 PM RE: Exaltaltion formally Gandanta At 12:59 PM 5/29/2004 -0700, Bettina wrote: >Arthyr ... Bettina. . . >B>Just that in its sign of exaltation it functions at its best. A> Taken as implied, the Sun in 19* Aries is exalted = " trinal " house from its ruling domain - the house of Leo benefits as well as any planets within Leo. Now, does the Sun benefit as well? The position of this exaltation would represent the king using his personal powers to protect the country and its people. Think Roman emperors . . . all born in August regardless of their actual birthday! Moon 3* Taurus = sextile to its domain, active moon in a active sign. Does this energize the sign of Cancer? Or, does the Moon become Taurean by nature. In early times, the bull represented seminal fluids and therefore virility. With the Moon representing Cancer as the sign of fecundity, early spring becomes a definite candidate for Moon in Taurus. Think first new moon after the spring equinox in earlier times when Taurus was the vernal point. Mercury exalted 15* Virgo. . . Why? I've noticed Mercury more beneficial in air signs! This one escapes me. Is Mercury exalted here because the young temple virgins in ancient times had first choice in the early morning harvest for those empowered in high office? I'm sure that the field workers " enjoyed " watching those girls choose and pick the best fruits and vegetables every morning leaving " slim pickin's " for the farmers who worked so hard in the fields. Venus in 27* Pisces suggests that Venus should be a nurse or a drunkard but how does the house of Taurus and Libra fair with this position? Ritual baths were associated with spirituality and God. Perhaps the metaphor " pleasure and cleanliness is next to Godliness " came out of this placement. Cleanliness was rare in early times so perhaps the idea of Venus in Pisces represented the " power of the Bull " in social context within the temples of prostitutes. Jupiter Either 5* 0r 15* Cancer. . . a quincunx to it's domain (a 1-8 combination) seems unlikely as a place of benefit as inconjuncts usually create frustrations. But, as early farmers might note, large families create a much-needed helpful hands not to mention the death rate of infants at that time. Yes, a fruitful wife who could produce 15 to 18 children would certainly be welcomed chattel. Saturn 21* Libra = Square to its domain suggesting disrespect from the criminal element. . . however, with Saturn in Libra, one can understand the " balance with social concerns " or justice that Saturn is so well respected for. Saturn was the Law of the Land and here we can easily see how early astrologers might incorporate the two. . . however, then as it is today, justice is for those who can afford it. Mars in 28* Capricorn square its domain = again creates disrespect for the social, well being of the populace. Personal power with " might makes right " as the signature. In early " war-fair " the power of the sword was paramount and swift victories were the desired outcome in a country's imperialistic expansion. > Seems like getting an aspect from an exalted planet should be more > beneficial to the >planet that receives the aspect than if it were in the sign of its fall. This makes a lot of sense. However, as we have seen, often a planet in its fall but in a malefic position by house or aspect " brightens up. " >Also, the houses ruled by a planet which is exalted (everything else being >equal) should benefit. This is what I have always adhered to. . . just sometimes, the exaltation seems to bring on more problems than benefit. . . too much of a good thing? >How about you? The house is the benefactor of the ruler in exaltation. Like knowing someone well positioned in society willing to help out in suspicious circumstances. I always wondered if I would ever run across (a male) someone with the Sun in Aries, Mars in Capricorn and Saturn in Libra. . . or perhaps a woman with Venus in Pisces, Jupiter in Cancer and her Mercury in Virgo. . . anyone have a chart like that???? See you in the stars, Arthyr, http://TheSunsetChart.com " Making Ancient Astrology Work for You " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 At 03:34 PM 5/30/2004 -0700, Bettina wrote: >Hi, Arthyr ... > >Thanks for the educational response! A lot of information there. Welcome Bettina, a pleasure. >I have noticed that when someone has an exalted planet in a house, unless >it's severely afflicted, the affairs of that house seem to go pretty well. As have I. . . It seems that the planet AND house benefit greatly in such circumstances. This is one of the draws of the house system that attracts me. >Example: I have exalted Mercury in 4th and in my adult life (actually from >the age of 30 on), I've had good luck with real estate matters. Yes, Mercury relates to the thirty-sixth year, but if Mercury rises before the Sun (on the Ascendant), it usually comes a little earlier. > At that time my h and I bought a plain little stucco home, and 28 yrs. > later sold it >for 12 times what we paid. This is the phenomenon in California. Many friends are capitalizing on the real-estate boon and moving out of state! > With part of what we made, we bought a nicer >home in a cheaper area. Also, we inherited some rental property and did >pretty well with the money we made with the rent, later sold it for a fairly >good amount. I just love success stories! Very inspiring indeed! >Now, since my h and I are in this together, I should tell you what's going >on with his 4th. Asc ruler Moon inhabits it. It's a full Moon, considered >auspicious in Vedic. Full asp from exalted Sun. Venus, ruler of 4th and a >natural benefic, also throws full aspect to 4th and Moon. In Vedic a planet >asp'ing its own house supposedly strengthens that house. Also, V rules 11th >of gain. Well, you certainly have what it takes! Interesting how the house-system works out in these matters. >It's not that we're rich or live in Beverly Hills or anything, it's just >that that particular aspect of our lives has been fortunate. We can be rich in other areas. . . wealthy is always a different matter ;-) >Another example: a relative has a very successful (by today's standards!!!) >marriage. She married at 18 and is still married today at 49. She's a very >bright woman and could have done many things (she does indeed have a >profession, S rules 10th), so it's not as though it was her only option. She >has exalted Saturn in 7th. It has a trine from 9th ruler J in Gemini. >Also, V, ruler of 7th is exalted. Success does come in wondrous ways through the exaltations. >Another thing: consider the body parts ruled by the houses. 12th rules >feet. I have exalted Moon in 12th, and this may sound silly, but I think I >have very pretty feet. I've often thought, " Dang! If only my face could be >as nice looking as my feet! " But, Oh Well. Ha. . . great statement, I love your sense of humor! Ya know, advertisers look for pretty " parts " for their advertisements, perhaps Dr. Scholl could use you for one of his commercials ;-) >And so on and so forth. > >Oh, and back to my Mercury in 4th, I also have a good relationship with my >Mom, whom I adore. Kewel as they say in Valley Talk, toadly ossum. . . Thanks for the input, good stuff! >... Bettina See you in the stars, Arthyr, http://TheSunsetChart.com " Making Ancient Astrology Work for You " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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