Astrology and The Gender Divide - Therese

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Hi Therese,

 

Thank you so very much for your thoughts. They inform my perspective

all the more.

 

But with all due respect, there IS astrology all in this

discussion...it's just not in the nuts-and-bolts, " astrologese "

fashion we're used to.

 

I try to limit my astrological jargon as much as I can, because for

the most part, I'm dealing with folk who don't know the stuff, and

probably don't care, beyond what it can do to improve their lot in

life. Dealing with lots of this and that astrological language,

keeps us from talking about what's really important in this world.

 

Clearly, your comments about expectations and even romance, can be

seen in Neptune and the Nodes, Rahu and Ketu. Therefore, it is

reasonable to expect to see one or both factors prominent in the

charts of such women, Western and Vedic. In my personal experience,

every such woman we're talking about did indeed have either or both

working in their charts and life.

 

But simply knowing that - or communicating it to that woman - isnt

in my view enough. Having conversations like these are. They open

things up, takes astrology and puts in on the ground, and focuses us

on the real issues of life, how to navigate them, how to manage

them, for our benefit.

 

A question - in your work, have you ever come accross the scenarios

we're talking about here? And if so, how did you handle it,

astrologically and otherwise?

 

Thanks again for sharing.

 

Salaam,

Mu

 

, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest@s...> wrote:

> At 09:59 PM 5/26/04 -0000, Mu wrote:

> >Because a great number of people have contacted me in gratitude

for

> >my humble writings on the question of relationship, marriage and

so

> >on, I have decided to share these writings which originally

appeared

> >on the Pan Astrological Forum. What appears below are a series of

> >thoughts and opinions by me and other respected members of the

PAF.

> >I am hopeful that they spark thought and promote meaningful

> >discussion on the matters discussed therein...

>

> Hello Mu,

>

> Having read through your long post as best I could, I agree that

the

> expectations of women today tend to go through the roof. I can't

comment on

> what men want or expect and I can't comment on the Black

community. I can

> only comment on what I've seen amoung White women.

>

> Due to the glamor the media has presented us with, many women do

want the

> impossible from men. **Expectation** is the name of the culprit.

I've been

> married to the same man all my life, a fine man with the best

spiritual

> values, but when I look at my own expectations, and if I were in

the

> marriage market today, there's a lot more I'd ask for. I can see

that my

> attitude has become unrealistic with a few added-on false values.

I believe

> these increased " wants " are due to the glamor the media has

presented us

> with: The perfect sensitive, charming, highly intelligent,

sophisticated

> hunk on the movie screens and in the T.V. sitcoms.

>

> In a way the values of Indian marriage that you mentioned are much

more

> realistic. In many cultures such as the Indian culture the sexes

are still

> separated for the most part in everyday life. Women mix with women

and men

> mix with men. I believe an answer for women is to have some

sensitive

> female friends to share their feeling and thoughts with. Many of

these

> thoughts and feelings are alien to men and always will be. Only

the guys in

> the movies understand those sensitivities.

>

> A long married friend of mine once said something like this to

me, " You

> know, marriage is basically a business proposition for the benefit

of

> society and the raising of children. Each half of the marriage

fulfills

> their gender role as best they can. "

>

> The initial sexual attraction is sort of a cosmic trap to get two

people

> into a responsible relationship that will benefit children and

society.

> Unfortunately these basic values are being thrown to the wind in

favor of

> something called 'romance' and out-of-sight 'expectations.'

>

> But there's no astrology in this post!!

>

> Therese