2-Janna, MarkK....5/1.....re.... Understanding Jyotish/aspects etc.

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you're welcome....

 

it's all a fascinating ....puzzle...to me....

hehehe

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

" Janna Lynn " <jnanalynn

 

Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:24:15 -0000

 

Re: 2-Janna, > MarkK....4/30.....re.... " Understanding Life Purpose Newsletter

 

 

Hi mark: When you put your birth data on the list I understood that your 10th

house was Cancer (and I think Saturn is there in Cancer). I mistakenly

thought you had Leo rising (instead of Leo Sun) so did not see how Saturn in

the 12th house could influence the 10th house. I see now that it is Libra rising

and that the lordship of the 10th house is Moon-Cancer. I didn't think the

aspects were counted backwards, but I couldn't figure out how Saturn

influenced H-10 if it was in H-12; now I see it's Saturn's first aspect in your H-

10. But thanks for clarifying. Janna

 

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And how does Saturn in your H-12 affect your H-10?

>

> And Saturn's influences....are a bit more sublte.... It occurs to me, when

> I'm thinking of your question... is my Saturn's....influencing my 10th House

> lord, Moon, by being in the same house...

> but where it's influence was to retard, and delay happiness with my 10th

> House,...early in my life, ....

> as soon as I started strengthening my Saturn through meditation...

> and then, studying and improving Saturn, directly,....then,....that

> immediately started...

> helping me with my 10th House...

 

 

, Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...>

wrote:

> Dear Janna:

>

> I'm so glad you liked it. I had a lot of bliss, doing it...

>

> Very fulfilling flowing in good and great Jyotish/Astrology....

>

> Was even thinking this morning, I'm ready to write a phase II,... about Life

> Purpose..

> and maybe expand...into a simultaneous appreciation...of how to look at

> one's whole chart...

>

> And.... see below:

>

>

>

> " Janna Lynn " <jnanalynn>

>

> Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:18:13 -0000

>

> Re: 4/27 Advanced Jyotish Newsletter Volume

6

> " Understanding Life Purpose o

>

>

> Mark: Just wanted to say that this is so clearly explained and wonderful for

> those of us who don't have the full grasp of Jytoish that you illuminate.

> 2 questions: where in your chart does your " teaching " ability come from?

>

> I thought I answered this.... but in case I just imagined it, hehe...

>

> teaching comes generally from Jupiter...and the 5th House...

>

> and Jupiter's in a good sign for me,...and especially aspecting my Moon...

> which is my 10th House lord.... and fully aspects my 10th house,...so

> teaching is always what I've wanted to do...in career!

>

>

>

> And how does Saturn in your H-12 affect your H-10?

>

> And Saturn's influences....are a bit more sublte.... It occurs to me, when

> I'm thinking of your question... is my Saturn's....influencing my 10th House

> lord, Moon, by being in the same house...

> but where it's influence was to retard, and delay happiness with my 10th

> House,...early in my life, ....

> as soon as I started strengthening my Saturn through meditation...

> and then, studying and improving Saturn, directly,....then,....that

> immediately started...

> helping me with my 10th House...

>

> Also, gaining insight into my Mars, which was acting negatively...in my

> early life...

> and releasing that malefic mars, and access more, by truer, cancer

> energy...has also really helped!

>

>

> Are you counting H-12,

> 11, 10 for a third house aspect, Saturn to H-10?

>

> No, aspects aren't supposed to be able to go that direction....but

> forward...

>

> 1, 3 7th & 10 houses away...from Saturn....

> means...12th, 2nd...6th...and 9th houses....

> and I've learned to feel each of these influences....too....

>

> Saturn aspects my 10th house by aspecting both the lord of the

10th....Moon,

> directly...

> and Jupiter which is also aspecting my 10th house, ....by influenicng

> Jupiter's placement in the 6th house....

>

> take care

>

>

> Mark

>

>

>

> Janna

>

> http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

>

>

> , Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Advanced Jyotish/Astrology Newsletter

> > Volume VI

> >

> > " How to Discover Your Life Purpose

> > or

> > Career.... "

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Friends:

> >

> > This has always been one of my favorite uses and abilities of

> > Jyotish/Astrology, how to know one's life purpose.

> >

> > Traditionally, one's 'life purpose', is a question more about career, ....so

> > traditionally Astrologers look at

> >

> > o one's 10th House, What is the Sign that's in the 10th House...

> > o Secondly...What is the 10th House Lord?

> > o Thirdly,.... Where is that 10th House lord? Is it happy or sad?

> > o Fourth.... Are there any Planets in the 10th House, ...

> > o Fifth.....Are there any Planets aspecting one's 10th House... and

> > finally...

> > o Are there any Planets aspecting or influencing the 10th House Lord...

> >

> > Okay, let's look at this step by step.

> >

> > o Write down what is the Sign that's in your 10th House...

> >

> > Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Capricorn,

> > Aquarius, and Pisces....

> >

> > Ask yourself this question:

> >

> > How is this energy expressed...in my 10th House?

> >

> > In other words, can you feel, that energy, it should be appreciable as a

> > kind of back drop, or subtle energy literally pervading one's 10th House!

> >

> > For example, I've got a Libra Rising so, Cancer's in my 10th House...

> > For many years, especially BJ, or before Jyotish, hehe, I had no conscious

> > appreciation of that quality, .... though later when I started studying

> > Astrology I did kind of relate to Cancer....

> >

> >

> > Then, when I got more and more knowledgeable, I realized....'wow, I do

> have

> > a kind of Cancer energy there in my 10th House...'

> >

> > It's almost imperceptible....and it's not generally an energy, a 'guy' wants

> > to admit is the back drop of his whole career, life!

> > Give me a nice masculine energy, Scorpio, or Capricorn, or Aries! hehe...

> > but then I realized it's the flavor the quality that most

> > clearly....expresses how I truely like to be in career...

> >

> > Feel that energy...re-read different descriptions of the different Signs,

> > and see if that Sign that's supposed to be in your 10th House...see if that

> > fits you!

> >

> > Write down the qualities, the characteristics...that 'fits' You!

> >

> > o Secondly, What is the Lord of that Sign, in your 10th House....?

> >

> > The Lord of every Sign, is a Planet that's 'internal constitution' is

> > supposed to be so similar with the Sign, Constellation or collection of

> > stars, that's represented by that Sign, that it feels the most happy....

> >

> > So, for example, in my 10th House, Cancer, is there, and Cancer is ruled

by

> > the Moon. Again, didn't really do anything for me, when I was younger...

> >

> > o So, where is that 10th House Lord...?

> >

> > The House that the Lords, are in, gives very pertinent information in

> > regards to the affairs of any and every House. In this case, see if you can

> > 'feel' that thread of connection between the 10th House, and it's Lord..

> >

> > When I was in India, we heard the Jyotishees say: 'The Lords, will send

> > back a kind of mail, or message, how they're doing...'

> >

> > That effect, reflects some of our 'karma', in this example, of our 10th

> > Houses... and that' important in helping you discover your 'dharma' or Life

> > Purpose!

> >

> > In my case, my 10th House Lord, the Moon, was in the 12th House when I

> was

> > born. This had very distinct and obvious effects...

> >

> > #1 I was lost to my sense of career... I remember thinking about so many

> > things growing up, but it was like I just couldn't get clear....

> >

> > Now, that's the 10th House lord in the 12th...not a very good start, I have

> > to say!

> >

> > Now, supposed your 10th House Lord is in the....

> >

> > o lst House....what does that mean....? Consider the quality of the 10th

> > House lord, consider what that planet is? Is it an obvious benefic,

> > Jupiter, Moon, Venus, Mercury, or the Sun....or is it one of the so-called

> > functionally malefic Planets like: Saturn, Mars, or even the Sun....is

> > sometimes considered a malefic...

> >

> > Can you 'feel' the quality of that Planet...how it says something to you

> > about your 10th House....

> >

> > That Lord is ruling your 10th House, so you should get more acquainted

> with

> > it's more precise meanings....

> >

> > For me, it was the Moon, though especially being in my 12th House, it was

> > like I was 'lost' to the 'feeling' of it, and that reflected the over all

> > effect of my 10th House lord being in the 12th...

> >

> > o If your 10th House lord is in the lst House, ...look into Self, birth,

> > personality

> > issues. 10th House Lord in the 1st...has a lot to say to you,

> > regards, your

> > Career. 10th House Lord in the lst house is often the 'sign' of

> > someone who

> > has a lot of 'leadership' in his career, or even some 'fame', perhaps;

> > other

> > significations, to be considered....

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in the 2nd House, can you feel the flavor of

> > your

> > Career, has something to do with Wealth, Money matters, Food, or

> > Speech?

> >

> > Follow the situation of the 10th House, into the nature of each House and

> > you should feel, the quality of that House, flowing back to your 10th

> > House...

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in your 3rd House, are you interested in the

> > Arts,

> > Music, Performing arts, or Communications....

> >

> > Follow the significations of each house and see if any of them have a

> > special relevance for you, in your 'ideal' Career!

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in your 4th House, are you interested in

> > anything to

> > to do with Homes, property, real estate, Psychology, 'Mothering',

> > 'heart',

> > 'hearth', or 'home'.....?

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in your 5th House, are you interested in

> > anything to

> > to do with Children, Education, Stocks, Trading, or Mantras!

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in your 6th House, are you interested in

> > anything to

> > to do with Health, healing, Law, or.... Doctoring?

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in your 7th House, are you interested in

> > anything to

> > to do with Partnerships, Marriage or Business partnerships....

> > You may be married to a working partner, or work with your spouse, in

> > Career....

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in your 8th House, are you interested in

> > anything to

> > to do with 'Transformations', with 'endings', with 'death', with ....

> > chronic or

> > frustrating habits, compulsions or addictions...

> >

> > Follow the Flavor of the Career, Lord, into the Flavor of the House...

> >

> > Find that 'flavor', write it down...and eventually when you've looked this

> > way, at each of the other areas of your chart, the whole thing will make

> > more sense for you!

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in your 9th House, are you interested in

> > anything to

> > to do with Spirit, Religion, God, or Authority?

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in your 4th House, are you interested in

> > anything to

> > to do with Business, trade, commerce?

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in your 11th House, are you interested in

> > anything to

> > to do with Money matters, Income, 'gains', ....etc...

> >

> > o If your 10th House Lord is in your 4th House, are you interested in

> > anything to

> > to do with Losses, debts, or the positive aspect of the 12th House,

> > anything to

> > do with 'Spirituality', the transcendental kind, God,....the Absolute?

> >

> > Wow, now we're cooking... When I read this side for the first time, I

> > thought, 'hey, that really does fit me? I mean I do have a deep, careerish

> > kind of feeling for wanting to know what is life all about.

> >

> > I was a Philosophy and Education major in college and as early as I can

> > remember I wondered about the purpose of life, and what is the goal?

> What

> > is the end of life?, all about? Very 12th Houseish...

> >

> >

> > Now,...

> > o Are there any Planets in your 10th House...?

> >

> > Specific Planets will create or reflect very unique qualities as to your

> > House of Career.

> > Figure out also if those Planets are happy, mediumly positive, or unhappy

> or

> > negative...

> >

> > For me, I had Mars in my 10th House, and though Mars is supposed to be

> very

> > good in the all important 10th House, it was not supposed to be happy in

> > Cancer...

> >

> > Though, preJyotish I had no clue why. What I noticed however, was I had

> two

> > sides to me. I had a soft, gentle side and I had a more fiery, Marish

> > side... and the two together kind of made me dizzy.

> >

> > See, if you can identify and understand that particular flavor of all the

> > Planets in your 10th House...

> >

> > It's reflective of something unique about your karma or qualities of your

> > 10th House...

> >

> > Now,

> >

> > o Are there any Planets Aspecting your 10th House....?

> >

> > For me, I had Jupiter in the 6th House, in it's Own Sign, in Pisces, and due

> > to it's 5th House aspect, it was casting a direct influence into the House

> > of Career.

> >

> > When I was younger I thought I wanted to be a doctor?

> >

> > Then, later I thought I'd be a Philosopher?

> >

> > Then, later, perhaps an Educator or Teacher?

> >

> > Jupiter's in the 6th House of healing, so doctoring is so possibility,

> > certainly being the 'Philosopher', is very reflective of Jupiter...

> >

> > Also, Educator or Teacher were also very real possibilities.

> >

> > You can also look and see if that influence of any planet into the 10th

> > House, is a positive one.

> >

> > In my case, Jupiter was aspecting Cancer, which is it's Sign of Exaltation,

> > so this would reflect a much more positive and benefic quality of Career.

> >

> > And as it turned out I did graduate with a double major of Education and

> > Philosophy.

> >

> > Eventually, I became a meditation and Ayurveda teacher, both of which

> seem

> > to reflect this positive aspect.

> >

> > o Now, are there any Aspects onto the 10th House Lord?

> >

> > This, too like aspects onto the 10th House, itself, will also reflect

> > something very concrete regarding career.

> >

> > For me, again, my Moon, Lord of my 10th, was in the 12th...

> > and that now, seems clear to me why I had such a strong, 'careerish'

> feeling

> > for wanting to know about God, and the 'ends, goals of Life',....

> >

> > Now, there are 2 Simultaneous aspects onto my Moon, which is the 10th

> House

> > Lord.

> >

> > Jupiter, positively placed in it's Own Sign in the 6th,...is casting a good

> > Yoga, onto the Moon, so very positive associations...teaching, possibilities

> > with Career...

> >

> > But, I also have Saturn in the 12th House, with the Moon, and Saturn was

> > reflecting a predominantly negative or malefic effects upon my Moon, and

> > therefore, onto the 10th House.

> >

> > I had much delays, and disappointments, frustrations, confusions

regarding

> > Career, and till I started to learn how to strengthen and improve my

Saturn,

> > .... more negative effects then positive....

> >

> > Also forget to mention the Moon, as 10th House Lord's effect being one

> House

> > away from the Sun, in my 11th....

> >

> > That too, very small Moon, in the 12th...with Saturn...reflected all the

> > problems I was having in Career.

> >

> > Finally, I should mention this confusion with Mars in my 10th House, led to

> > doing Construction on and off, since I became an adult, approximately

> since,

> > 1980.

> >

> > I also, simultaneously have been a meditation teacher, and Ayurved like I

> > said, for an even longer amount of time, since 1973. And Jyotish teacher

> > since 1988.

> >

> > So, here's a good way to look at every aspect of one's 10th House of

> > Career...

> >

> > All these significations do very well, describe our qualities, karmas and

> > circumstances,...

> > all wrapped up in Career, for us.

> >

> > However, there's another aspect which I like to mention regarding Career,

> > and that's the fact, that in Truth....

> >

> > each and every aspect of our chart, together, simultaneously,....goes to

> > reflect our true, full, Career, or what might be called 'Dharma'.

> >

> > Dharma is a a sanskrit word which mean's 'life purpose'.

> >

> > Dharma or Career, can be looked at through all the details of one's 10th

> > House,

> > however...

> >

> > Dharma is also the Knowledge and Wisdom of each and every aspect of

> our

> > Charts...

> >

> > When I finally understood, literally each and every aspect of my Chart...

> > a huge 'aha' came to me, and I got it!

> >

> > Wow, this is my true dharma, I'm really meant to live, and

> understand...each

> > and every aspect of my chart!

> >

> > And each one of us, are meant to do the same thing!

> >

> >

> >

> > Jai Guru!

> >

> >

> >

> > Mark Kincaid

> >

> >

> >

> > PS.... now we've learned how to examine and understand the 10th House,

> but

> > this scenario is really the same for each and every other aspect, or House,

> > in our Charts...

> >

> > We do this procedure with our 10th Houses, and then, we can do it with

> each

> > other aspect of our Chart!

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