Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Bettina, Thanks for the kind response. Yea, what you say is true about the 11th and benefics in general. Malefics in the 11th tend to fare better, but there is a method in the madness about this as well. From the Vedic spiritual perspective, the 11th house represents gains, desires for gain, and carnal desires. Therefore, the very presence of lusty planets, like Venus, the Moon, even Mars, is not considered from the spiritual standpoint, when one is attempting to attain a degree of detachment from such things. Here in the West, where most people aren't inclined towards such spirutal questing, the 11th takes on other meanings. One very basic and common one can be seen in terms of adultery. If in a chart, a person has strong imbalance between the 11th and 7th houses in their chart - with the 11th getting the upper hand - it is usually a strong indication of that person being sexually unsatified with their partner, and is likely to seek out others. Of course, a strong Jupiter, even a well placed Saturn, can mitigate against this. A very easy yet common example of this principle in action is Bill Clinton. A careful examination of each house with respect to then grahas is to be done in order to arrive at the correct assessment of a person via their chart. The things that are mentioned in the books, even the classics, are to be taken as guidelines only. Use them liberally, not literally. Thanks again. Salaam, Mu Mu'Min M. Bey Western and Vedic Astrologer Check out my site: muminbey.tripod.com " The Future of Astrology, is Here... " AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> wrote: > Dear Mu ... > > > Good letter. What you were saying about the 11th being the 6th from the 6th > explains why it's considered good to have malefics in 11th, but benefics are > somewhat thrown away there. Also, 11th is a Upashaya (sp?) hs, along with > 3,6, and 10, and they're all considered good for malefics. > > Sounds like you know your Vedic! > > > ... Bettina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Hi Mu'Min: u have very nicely explained about the effects of 9th house. Regarding father can u explain if ninth house or tenth house plays a role in it. If 4th house is bad, does that mean the person doesnt have good relations with his mother..? Thanks Darshan , " MuMin Bey " <mumin_bey> wrote: > Bettina, > > Thanks for the kind response. > > Yea, what you say is true about the 11th and benefics in general. > Malefics in the 11th tend to fare better, but there is a method in > the madness about this as well. > > From the Vedic spiritual perspective, the 11th house represents > gains, desires for gain, and carnal desires. Therefore, the very > presence of lusty planets, like Venus, the Moon, even Mars, is not > considered from the spiritual standpoint, when one is attempting to > attain a degree of detachment from such things. > > Here in the West, where most people aren't inclined towards such > spirutal questing, the 11th takes on other meanings. One very basic > and common one can be seen in terms of adultery. > > If in a chart, a person has strong imbalance between the 11th and > 7th houses in their chart - with the 11th getting the upper hand - > it is usually a strong indication of that person being sexually > unsatified with their partner, and is likely to seek out others. Of > course, a strong Jupiter, even a well placed Saturn, can mitigate > against this. > > A very easy yet common example of this principle in action is Bill > Clinton. > > A careful examination of each house with respect to then grahas is > to be done in order to arrive at the correct assessment of a person > via their chart. The things that are mentioned in the books, even > the classics, are to be taken as guidelines only. Use them > liberally, not literally. > > Thanks again. > > Salaam, > Mu > > > Mu'Min M. Bey > Western and Vedic Astrologer > Check out my site: > muminbey.tripod.com > " The Future of Astrology, is Here... " > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological > Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- > @t... > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > wrote: > > Dear Mu ... > > > > > > Good letter. What you were saying about the 11th being the 6th > from the 6th > > explains why it's considered good to have malefics in 11th, but > benefics are > > somewhat thrown away there. Also, 11th is a Upashaya (sp?) hs, > along with > > 3,6, and 10, and they're all considered good for malefics. > > > > Sounds like you know your Vedic! > > > > > > ... Bettina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Hello Mu'Min: Thank you for your explanation of the houses. I have been finding them very confusing and this helps, although I have everything to learn yet. It helps, warm wishes, Morgana Quoting Darshan Pachapurkar <darshan_pac: Hi Mu'Min: > > u have very nicely explained about the effects of 9th house. > > Regarding father can u explain if ninth house or tenth house plays a > > role in it. If 4th house is bad, does that mean the person doesnt > > have good relations with his mother..? > > Thanks > > Darshan > > > > , " MuMin Bey " <mumin_bey> > > wrote: > > > Bettina, > > > > > > Thanks for the kind response. > > > > > > Yea, what you say is true about the 11th and benefics in general. > > > Malefics in the 11th tend to fare better, but there is a method in > > > the madness about this as well. > > > > > > From the Vedic spiritual perspective, the 11th house represents > > > gains, desires for gain, and carnal desires. Therefore, the very > > > presence of lusty planets, like Venus, the Moon, even Mars, is not > > > considered from the spiritual standpoint, when one is attempting to > > > attain a degree of detachment from such things. > > > > > > Here in the West, where most people aren't inclined towards such > > > spirutal questing, the 11th takes on other meanings. One very basic > > > and common one can be seen in terms of adultery. > > > > > > If in a chart, a person has strong imbalance between the 11th and > > > 7th houses in their chart - with the 11th getting the upper hand - > > > it is usually a strong indication of that person being sexually > > > unsatified with their partner, and is likely to seek out others. Of > > > course, a strong Jupiter, even a well placed Saturn, can mitigate > > > against this. > > > > > > A very easy yet common example of this principle in action is Bill > > > Clinton. > > > > > > A careful examination of each house with respect to then grahas is > > > to be done in order to arrive at the correct assessment of a person > > > via their chart. The things that are mentioned in the books, even > > > the classics, are to be taken as guidelines only. Use them > > > liberally, not literally. > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > Salaam, > > > Mu > > > > > > > > > Mu'Min M. Bey > > > Western and Vedic Astrologer > > > Check out my site: > > > muminbey.tripod.com > > > " The Future of Astrology, is Here... " > > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological > > > Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- > > > @t... > > > > > > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Mu ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Good letter. What you were saying about the 11th being the 6th > > > from the 6th > > > > explains why it's considered good to have malefics in 11th, but > > > benefics are > > > > somewhat thrown away there. Also, 11th is a Upashaya (sp?) hs, > > > along with > > > > 3,6, and 10, and they're all considered good for malefics. > > > > > > > > Sounds like you know your Vedic! > > > > > > > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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