Guest guest Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 Hi, Just to add to this - a growing number of Jyotishis are using outer planets these days. Not uncommon, especially amoung Jyotishis in the west. Hard to ignore when they clearly have such impact, especially when they are close in degree to a personal planet. All of my vedic softwares have the option of using the outer planets and I wouldn't dream of not using them. And I am really curious about the Hades I have seen mentioned in some posts...is this an asteroid? AnnieFlick <rubysun wrote: On 24/4/04 10:26 am, "morganaspirit" <morganaspiritwrote:> Of course Vedic does not use URANUS, another> dilemna. mmm have to think about this because this makes TOO much sense to> me > to discard. Don't discard it. I've had in my hands recently the charts of my closefriend's daughter (her father is Indian) and her Indian fiancé, done inIndia by his father: the Indian astrologer has used the outer planets withthe rest of his Vedic calculations. Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 Hi Annie, I will copy a file on Hades that I have been saving and adding to. That should explain it, and if you check out a couple of the links there, you will find more. They originated with the Hamburg Uranian School in Germany I think, but don't quote me on it. Here is some stuff then! The horses mouth (so to speak) http://www.astrologer.ru/Witte/biography_eng.html Martha Lang Westcott's Astroid and TNP/Hypothetical site -keywords andlessons at www.treehousemountain.com http://www.treehousemountain.com/studychart6.htm HADES Principles of Hades From Nauman, Medical Astrologer, DHM(UK), EMT-B - Article HADES-- " Breakdown in order to make a Break through. http://www.medicinegarden.com/MedAstrology/HADES_ARTICLE-MED_ASTRO.html ......................................................................... Hades has more specifically to do with getting down to fundamentals, analyzing and processing, and learning the little details needed to build greater things later on. (BF) The principle of Hades is to: a) transform through decay & return to earth that which was taken from it. It may show a person who lives with depression, melancholia, pessimism or a low self-image. (EN) The principle of Hades: b) Conversely, Hades disintegration process can be used brilliantly to analyze and break down a subject into it's component parts, also a person who can solve a present crisis by looking to his own or another person's experience.(EN) Hades Keywords A list of keywords from the Rules book and various sources complied by Yakshi, Beth-Katherine Kaiman at Medicine Garden site: Keywords ABNORMAL AND AGGRAVATED CONDITIONS (cancer, hemorrhoids BKK) ANALYSIS, INVESTIGATION (Uranian Astrology Research project, breakdown to the beginning components and analyse the data - BKK) ANALYSIS, INVESTIGATION - ancient metaphysics, astrology. Surgeons and others who create awful messes but serve others for a positive outcome. S.L. DECAY (compost, decomposing bodies, gangrene - BKK) DECAY (foul odors DB) DEFICIENCY (vitamin, mineral - BKK): DETERIORATING CONDITIONS (Breakdown of the nervous system caused by stress, MS, drug addiction, alcohol addiction, fetish addiction, family falling apart BKK) DETERIORATING CONDITIONS (Hades in the 4th house, situations in the home which deteriorate - a cycle of events which causes the breakdown of a situation - BKK) DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES (caused by poverty or illness, eviction - BKK) DIRT (Are dirt and filth really the same word? What are the German words and how are they different in translation to English - BKK) DISAGREEABLENESS (grouchy, caused by drug/alcohol conditions, hangover, manicdepression BKK) FILTH (slothful behavior, messy housekeeping, health department, sanitation department BKK) From Blake Finley –More keywords on this website GARBAGE (collectors, compost, leftovers, refuse BKK) HIDDEN OR SECRET MATTERS (occult practices, secret societies, drugs, alcohol,dysfunctions, secret fantasies BKK) JUNK (garage sales, thrift shops, junkyards, fleamarkets, street sales,unwanted clutter BKK) LINGERING ILLNESS (colds, flus-mild, infections BKK) Loneliness (found frequently in W.W.I widows) POVERTY (state of mind from living in slums and ghettos, welfare, public assistance - BKK) RUBBISH (trash, BKK) Repulsiveness (unsanitary conditions, slothful bathing habits BKK) Ruins (construction workers, remains after bombings, ancient ruins BKK) Secrecy (family secrets, sexual abuse - BKK) Slums (ghettos - BKK) Sometimes antiquated, prehistorical, occult (Kabala, Greek mystery schools,bible BKK) Sometimes coarse, rude, evil UNPLEASANT THINGS (bed sores, badsmells, rude people, insects crawling on you- BKK) WANT, WASTE and, yesterday I saved these for a friend who has this aspect conjunct her Sun (Hades/Mars with Pluto oppose) and square her Moon same configuration transit to it, so the brief ephemeris is for yesterday and included because it was handy. RIYAL http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/ has a free software program including these and the hypotheticals. It is a great little program too. Check his index page and the download link is there. Sat April 24 2004 UT 2h04m51s Lat48n26 Lon123w31 URANIANS CUPIDO = 9,56 Sag HADES = 22,11 Gem ZEUS = 7,31 Lib KRONOS = 0,25 Can APOLLON = 23,04 Lib ADMETOS = 21,57 Tau VULCANUS= 21,54 Can POSEIDON= 6,08 Sco So Annie, that should keep you busy for awhile, cheers, Morgana Quoting " L. Harbour " <alsharbour: > Hi, > Just to add to this - a growing number of Jyotishis are using outer planets > these days. Not uncommon, especially amoung Jyotishis in the west. Hard to > ignore when they clearly have such impact, especially when they are close in > degree to a personal planet. All of my vedic softwares have the option of > using the outer planets and I wouldn't dream of not using them. And I am > really curious about the Hades I have seen mentioned in some posts...is this > an asteroid? > Annie > > Flick <rubysun wrote: > On 24/4/04 10:26 am, " morganaspirit " <morganaspirit > wrote: > > > Of course Vedic does not use URANUS, another > > dilemna. mmm have to think about this because this makes TOO much sense > to > > me > > to discard. > > Don't discard it. I've had in my hands recently the charts of my close > friend's daughter (her father is Indian) and her Indian fiancé, done in > India by his father: the Indian astrologer has used the outer planets with > the rest of his Vedic calculations. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 At 07:55 AM 4/24/04 -0700, Annie wrote: > Hi, And I am really curious about the Hades I have seen mentioned >in some posts...is this an asteroid? Hades in one of the trans-Neptunian planets, which belong to a specific school of astrology, Uranian astrology, I believe. I wish I knew how they were calculated---I mean 'why.' The western programs have them as an option. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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