2-All, MK 4/22....re.... Gurus, teachers & God....

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends:

 

I've been watching your discussions re. Sai Baba, and had just a couple of things to add.

 

One of the things I've noticed in studying Jyotish/Astrology, is that the Jupiter or Guru, in our Chart's represents our 'karma' with teachers. So, if you look at your Jupiter you'll see where you started, in this life, in your relationship with mentors, teachers, husbands, (for women's charts) & Gurus.

 

There's also another aspect to Jupiter which I find worthwhile mentioning.

 

Jupiter/Guru also represents God.

 

God is after all, the first Guru, and one can have a relationship with the Guru, Jupiter, of the 'sky', so to speak, which transcends any earthly teachers or Gurus.

 

When I discovered that 'Guru' within, it represents the Guru, of God, and as such is beyond any challenges of individuality, and earthly incarnations.

 

Look to contact that Guru, as well, as having any relationship with teachers, and Gurus, on the Earth!

 

There's a special role of the 'Guru', 'Jupiter' in our lives.

 

Guru, Jupiter, brings, wisdom, darshan, blessings, good luck, and we are in a personal relationship with the 'Guru' quality of the Universe...

 

We're students, learning all about 'life', and life is the Guru,...teaching us all about itself....

 

 

 

Jai Guru!

 

 

Mark K.

 

 

 

 

morgana <aquatiger1950

 

Wed, 21 Apr 2004 23:28:05 -0400 (EDT)

 

Re: Re: The false god

 

 

Okay Therese, I do not need to go to that site since I will continue to trust what is within and do not need any 'energy of an unpleasant nature' happening. Glad you are feeling better and hope you are completely healed very quickly. warm wishes, Morgana

 

Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote:

At 09:29 PM 4/21/04 +0100, Flick wrote:

>Is he [sai baba] the one with squashy lips and afro hair?

That's him. He had a lot of followers beginning around the 1970s, quite a

few Ph.D.s and other educated people. They wrote the books that convinced

everyone else.

>If so, a friend was enamoured

>of him in the early 90s. I had a job for a while cleaning her house and she

>had his picture in her bedroom. To be honest it made me uneasy

Your intuiton was right on.

>...I didn't

>trust him. I think the moral here for many people is to learn to trust

>yourself first and foremost.

There is/was something strange going on with SB. Because he had

(apparently) lots of astral helpers, little miracles would happen in

people's lives. And it seemed to be easy to have one's 'intuition'

supported in favor of him. I'd expect for many followers, there was some

sort of past life connection. A psychic friend called him 'very tenacious.'

Come to think of it, I probably wouldn't advise anyone to check out the

sites unless you're hoping to convince a devotee to look at the truth. The

energy is unpleasant, but it was necessary to get the word out there. There

are still two or three active sites with current news from India. I had to

quit helping with the Sunrise site and put my mind in a different space.

For awhile it was a service I had to do.

Therese

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Mark,

 

I have Jupiter unafflicted in 4th, forming gaja kesari yoga with the moon;

it's in the last degree or so of Libra, so sandhi, and is my atmakaraka. Is

this why I've never been attracted to gurus? Jupiter is my guru. Yay! Guru

rocks!

 

Has anyone else been observing Jupiter in the sky at night, so huge and

beautiful lately?

 

Flick.

Author website:

http://www.witchcraft.org/elenhawke.htm

 

 

On 22/4/04 2:59 pm, " Mark Kincaid " <m.kincaid wrote:

 

> Dear Friends:

>

> I've been watching your discussions re. Sai Baba, and had just a couple of

> things to add.

>

> One of the things I've noticed in studying Jyotish/Astrology, is that the

> Jupiter or Guru, in our Chart's represents our 'karma' with teachers. So,

> if you look at your Jupiter you'll see where you started, in this life, in

> your relationship with mentors, teachers, husbands, (for women's charts) &

> Gurus.

>

> There's also another aspect to Jupiter which I find worthwhile mentioning.

>

> Jupiter/Guru also represents God.

>

> God is after all, the first Guru, and one can have a relationship with the

> Guru, Jupiter, of the 'sky', so to speak, which transcends any earthly

> teachers or Gurus.

>

> When I discovered that 'Guru' within, it represents the Guru, of God, and as

> such is beyond any challenges of individuality, and earthly incarnations.

>

> Look to contact that Guru, as well, as having any relationship with

> teachers, and Gurus, on the Earth!

>

> There's a special role of the 'Guru', 'Jupiter' in our lives.

>

> Guru, Jupiter, brings, wisdom, darshan, blessings, good luck, and we are in

> a personal relationship with the 'Guru' quality of the Universe...

>

> We're students, learning all about 'life', and life is the Guru,...teaching

> us all about itself....

>

>

>

> Jai Guru!

>

>

> Mark K.

>

>

>

>

> morgana <aquatiger1950

>

> Wed, 21 Apr 2004 23:28:05 -0400 (EDT)

>

> Re: Re: The false god

>

>

> Okay Therese, I do not need to go to that site since I will continue to

> trust what is within and do not need any 'energy of an unpleasant nature'

> happening. Glad you are feeling better and hope you are completely healed

> very quickly. warm wishes, Morgana

>

> Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote:

> At 09:29 PM 4/21/04 +0100, Flick wrote:

>> Is he [sai baba] the one with squashy lips and afro hair?

>

> That's him. He had a lot of followers beginning around the 1970s, quite a

> few Ph.D.s and other educated people. They wrote the books that convinced

> everyone else.

>

>> If so, a friend was enamoured

>> of him in the early 90s. I had a job for a while cleaning her house and she

>> had his picture in her bedroom. To be honest it made me uneasy

>

> Your intuiton was right on.

>

>> ...I didn't

>> trust him. I think the moral here for many people is to learn to trust

>> yourself first and foremost.

>

> There is/was something strange going on with SB. Because he had

> (apparently) lots of astral helpers, little miracles would happen in

> people's lives. And it seemed to be easy to have one's 'intuition'

> supported in favor of him. I'd expect for many followers, there was some

> sort of past life connection. A psychic friend called him 'very tenacious.'

>

> Come to think of it, I probably wouldn't advise anyone to check out the

> sites unless you're hoping to convince a devotee to look at the truth. The

> energy is unpleasant, but it was necessary to get the word out there. There

> are still two or three active sites with current news from India. I had to

> quit helping with the Sunrise site and put my mind in a different space.

> For awhile it was a service I had to do.

>

> Therese

[Guest guest]

Hello Mark,

 

Thanks for explaining this for Jyotish! I see a connection with the

western Jupiter. I am happy that the Jyotish is also

quite 'positive' about Jupiter. However in Feng Shui Jupiter is seen

as malific and you need to study the compass direction he is in

every year, so you know how to avoid sitting face to face toward

him. This year 2004 he is moving from the SW directuin to the west

direction, accordingto them. But I cannot fully agree with them,

because the earth is constantly turning around his axis, so that the

angle of Jupiter changes constantly from a compass point of view.

 

Anne

 

, Mark Kincaid

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> Dear Friends:

>

> I've been watching your discussions re. Sai Baba, and had just a

couple of

> things to add.

>

> One of the things I've noticed in studying Jyotish/Astrology, is

that the

> Jupiter or Guru, in our Chart's represents our 'karma' with

teachers. So,

> if you look at your Jupiter you'll see where you started, in this

life, in

> your relationship with mentors, teachers, husbands, (for women's

charts) &

> Gurus.

>

> There's also another aspect to Jupiter which I find worthwhile

mentioning.

>

> Jupiter/Guru also represents God.

>

> God is after all, the first Guru, and one can have a relationship

with the

> Guru, Jupiter, of the 'sky', so to speak, which transcends any

earthly

> teachers or Gurus.

>

> When I discovered that 'Guru' within, it represents the Guru, of

God, and as

> such is beyond any challenges of individuality, and earthly

incarnations.

>

> Look to contact that Guru, as well, as having any relationship with

> teachers, and Gurus, on the Earth!

>

> There's a special role of the 'Guru', 'Jupiter' in our lives.

>

> Guru, Jupiter, brings, wisdom, darshan, blessings, good luck, and

we are in

> a personal relationship with the 'Guru' quality of the Universe...

>

> We're students, learning all about 'life', and life is the

Guru,...teaching

> us all about itself....

>

>

>

> Jai Guru!

>

>

> Mark K.

>

>

>

>

> morgana <aquatiger1950>

>

> Wed, 21 Apr 2004 23:28:05 -0400 (EDT)

>

> Re: Re: The false god

>

>

> Okay Therese, I do not need to go to that site since I will

continue to

> trust what is within and do not need any 'energy of an unpleasant

nature'

> happening. Glad you are feeling better and hope you are

completely healed

> very quickly. warm wishes, Morgana

>

> Therese Hamilton <eastwest@s...> wrote:

> At 09:29 PM 4/21/04 +0100, Flick wrote:

> >Is he [sai baba] the one with squashy lips and afro hair?

>

> That's him. He had a lot of followers beginning around the 1970s,

quite a

> few Ph.D.s and other educated people. They wrote the books that

convinced

> everyone else.

>

> >If so, a friend was enamoured

> >of him in the early 90s. I had a job for a while cleaning her

house and she

> >had his picture in her bedroom. To be honest it made me uneasy

>

> Your intuiton was right on.

>

> >...I didn't

> >trust him. I think the moral here for many people is to learn to

trust

> >yourself first and foremost.

>

> There is/was something strange going on with SB. Because he had

> (apparently) lots of astral helpers, little miracles would happen

in

> people's lives. And it seemed to be easy to have one's 'intuition'

> supported in favor of him. I'd expect for many followers, there

was some

> sort of past life connection. A psychic friend called him 'very

tenacious.'

>

> Come to think of it, I probably wouldn't advise anyone to check

out the

> sites unless you're hoping to convince a devotee to look at the

truth. The

> energy is unpleasant, but it was necessary to get the word out

there. There

> are still two or three active sites with current news from India.

I had to

> quit helping with the Sunrise site and put my mind in a different

space.

> For awhile it was a service I had to do.

>

> Therese

>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Flick,

 

My Jupiter is also unafflicted in my western horoscope (23 degrees

Libra). I alos did not needed a Guru. I once had a chackra workshop

with the Indian numerologist Harish Johari, (he called all the

attendants by their numerologic-date number) who told me that I had

too many ones in my date (11-11-1969, which makes 47/11) and that I

did not need a teacher. So I left the group, I was indeed very bored

with his workshop.....

 

Anne

 

 

, Flick <rubysun@n...> wrote:

> Mark,

>

> I have Jupiter unafflicted in 4th, forming gaja kesari yoga with

the moon;

> it's in the last degree or so of Libra, so sandhi, and is my

atmakaraka. Is

> this why I've never been attracted to gurus? Jupiter is my guru.

Yay! Guru

> rocks!

>

> Has anyone else been observing Jupiter in the sky at night, so

huge and

> beautiful lately?

>

> Flick.

> Author website:

> http://www.witchcraft.org/elenhawke.htm

>

>

> On 22/4/04 2:59 pm, " Mark Kincaid " <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

>

> > Dear Friends:

> >

> > I've been watching your discussions re. Sai Baba, and had just a

couple of

> > things to add.

> >

> > One of the things I've noticed in studying Jyotish/Astrology, is

that the

> > Jupiter or Guru, in our Chart's represents our 'karma' with

teachers. So,

> > if you look at your Jupiter you'll see where you started, in

this life, in

> > your relationship with mentors, teachers, husbands, (for women's

charts) &

> > Gurus.

> >

> > There's also another aspect to Jupiter which I find worthwhile

mentioning.

> >

> > Jupiter/Guru also represents God.

> >

> > God is after all, the first Guru, and one can have a

relationship with the

> > Guru, Jupiter, of the 'sky', so to speak, which transcends any

earthly

> > teachers or Gurus.

> >

> > When I discovered that 'Guru' within, it represents the Guru, of

God, and as

> > such is beyond any challenges of individuality, and earthly

incarnations.

> >

> > Look to contact that Guru, as well, as having any relationship

with

> > teachers, and Gurus, on the Earth!

> >

> > There's a special role of the 'Guru', 'Jupiter' in our lives.

> >

> > Guru, Jupiter, brings, wisdom, darshan, blessings, good luck,

and we are in

> > a personal relationship with the 'Guru' quality of the

Universe...

> >

> > We're students, learning all about 'life', and life is the

Guru,...teaching

> > us all about itself....

> >

> >

> >

> > Jai Guru!

> >

> >

> > Mark K.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > morgana <aquatiger1950>

> >

> > Wed, 21 Apr 2004 23:28:05 -0400 (EDT)

> >

> > Re: Re: The false god

> >

> >

> > Okay Therese, I do not need to go to that site since I will

continue to

> > trust what is within and do not need any 'energy of an

unpleasant nature'

> > happening. Glad you are feeling better and hope you are

completely healed

> > very quickly. warm wishes, Morgana

> >

> > Therese Hamilton <eastwest@s...> wrote:

> > At 09:29 PM 4/21/04 +0100, Flick wrote:

> >> Is he [sai baba] the one with squashy lips and afro hair?

> >

> > That's him. He had a lot of followers beginning around the

1970s, quite a

> > few Ph.D.s and other educated people. They wrote the books that

convinced

> > everyone else.

> >

> >> If so, a friend was enamoured

> >> of him in the early 90s. I had a job for a while cleaning her

house and she

> >> had his picture in her bedroom. To be honest it made me uneasy

> >

> > Your intuiton was right on.

> >

> >> ...I didn't

> >> trust him. I think the moral here for many people is to learn

to trust

> >> yourself first and foremost.

> >

> > There is/was something strange going on with SB. Because he had

> > (apparently) lots of astral helpers, little miracles would

happen in

> > people's lives. And it seemed to be easy to have

one's 'intuition'

> > supported in favor of him. I'd expect for many followers, there

was some

> > sort of past life connection. A psychic friend called him 'very

tenacious.'

> >

> > Come to think of it, I probably wouldn't advise anyone to check

out the

> > sites unless you're hoping to convince a devotee to look at the

truth. The

> > energy is unpleasant, but it was necessary to get the word out

there. There

> > are still two or three active sites with current news from

India. I had to

> > quit helping with the Sunrise site and put my mind in a

different space.

> > For awhile it was a service I had to do.

> >

> > Therese