Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Hi Morgana, What is the title of Liz Greenes book about saturn you mentioned? And pluto is in sagittarius right now. Yes pluto gives more dramatically impacts on people's life. So I have noticed when it passed my sun. And yes about the twins: pluto creeped over my moon when I got pregnant and gave birth to them: it dramatically changed my work: yes because my moon is placed in my sixt house in western astrology. In Jyotish my moon is in the 8th house, so I have to figure out what that means too. I will defeinitely need to do a course as soon as I have moved house. Can you recommend any good specific books about pluto? I have only read about Pluto in the general books about planets and astrology from Stephen Forrest and Stephen Arroyo. Anne , morgana <aquatiger1950> wrote: > Hi Anne, I am referring to the western idea of Saturn when I speak about it, or refer to Liz Greene's book, but the Planet that really causes dramatic shifts for me (mostly horrid, but always good I guess to be transformed) is Pluto. Jyotish does not recognize the outers, but I would always have to include them. They all impact me in a huge way I have noticed, so I am happy that saturn has been so nice to me. My natal Saturn is part of a huge natal configuration in my chart too...but it is in mutual reception with Mercury adding to its flavour, cheers, Morgana > > (I am doing up the charts of the twins-a fascinating contemplation for me the moment I get a moment, thanks for their data, and might I add, NO WONDER you are experiencing burnout! M > > hagazussah <hagazussa@c...> wrote: > was: Re: 2-Bettina, & all: >MK 4/20.. ..re... How Rahu/ketu are > beneficormalefic for a horoscope? > > Hi Flick and Morgana, > > Are you specifically referring to Jyotish or also to western > interpretations of saturn? Yes saturn is setting limits, but I have > noticed that I also need limits and I am still learning to set my > limits carefully, which is not so easy. Saturn always is in a > corrective mode. When you learn the lessons of saturn, you will be > able to omit the things that are too much. I am curious about what > saturn has to say in my Jyotish chart, where it is in the 1st house > in ashwini/aries. > > Anne > > , Flick <rubysun@n...> wrote: > > On 21/4/04 12:05 am, " morgana " <aquatiger1950> wrote: > > > > > I really have to state here that Saturn is not always the bad > guy. Certainly > > > in my life Saturn has given me great gifts on the supposed bad > aspects. > > > cheers, Morgana > > > > Morgana, you are so completely right. Although some Saturn > transits have > > been tiresome for me if they've coincided with something I've been > in a > > hurry for, when I look back over my life many of the most > significant > > achievements I've had have been under Saturn sub dasas. I like Liz > Greene's > > take on Saturn, the way that it can strengthen you so much. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Dear Anne, I'm sure Morgana will have more ideas about good Pluto books, but just wanted to mention that I love Donna Cunningham's "Healing Pluto Problems" and Jeff Green's "Pluto: The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul". Take care, Anniehagazussah <hagazussa wrote: Hi Morgana,What is the title of Liz Greenes book about saturn you mentioned?And pluto is in sagittarius right now. Yes pluto gives more dramatically impacts on people's life. So I have noticed when it passed my sun. And yes about the twins: pluto creeped over my moon when I got pregnant and gave birth to them: it dramatically changed my work: yes because my moon is placed in my sixt house in western astrology. In Jyotish my moon is in the 8th house, so I have to figure out what that means too. I will defeinitely need to do a course as soon as I have moved house. Can you recommend any good specific books about pluto? I have only read about Pluto in the general books about planets and astrology from Stephen Forrest and Stephen Arroyo.Anne , morgana <aquatiger1950> wrote:> Hi Anne, I am referring to the western idea of Saturn when I speak about it, or refer to Liz Greene's book, but the Planet that really causes dramatic shifts for me (mostly horrid, but always good I guess to be transformed) is Pluto. Jyotish does not recognize the outers, but I would always have to include them. They all impact me in a huge way I have noticed, so I am happy that saturn has been so nice to me. My natal Saturn is part of a huge natal configuration in my chart too...but it is in mutual reception with Mercury adding to its flavour, cheers, Morgana> > (I am doing up the charts of the twins-a fascinating contemplation for me the moment I get a moment, thanks for their data, and might I add, NO WONDER you are experiencing burnout! M> > hagazussah <hagazussa@c...> wrote:> was: Re: 2-Bettina, & all: >MK 4/20.. ...re... How Rahu/ketu are > beneficormalefic for a horoscope?> > Hi Flick and Morgana,> > Are you specifically referring to Jyotish or also to western > interpretations of saturn? Yes saturn is setting limits, but I have > noticed that I also need limits and I am still learning to set my > limits carefully, which is not so easy. Saturn always is in a > corrective mode. When you learn the lessons of saturn, you will be > able to omit the things that are too much. I am curious about what > saturn has to say in my Jyotish chart, where it is in the 1st house > in ashwini/aries.> > Anne> > , Flick <rubysun@n...> wrote:> > On 21/4/04 12:05 am, "morgana" <aquatiger1950> wrote:> > > > > I really have to state here that Saturn is not always the bad > guy. Certainly> > > in my life Saturn has given me great gifts on the supposed bad > aspects.> > > cheers, Morgana> > > > Morgana, you are so completely right. Although some Saturn > transits have> > been tiresome for me if they've coincided with something I've been > in a> > hurry for, when I look back over my life many of the most > significant> > achievements I've had have been under Saturn sub dasas. I like Liz > Greene's> > take on Saturn, the way that it can strengthen you so much.> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Yes,I was going to bring those up, thank you Annie. I just got up at noon, after staying up practically all night, so still foggy here, even though making my coffee and forgetting to put the pot under the flow would make a person think I would wake after that....still foggy albeit coffee laden all over! Everywhere except in my tummy! Another book I love is written by Howard Sassportas called, 'Gods of Change'. He is no longer with us unfortunately having passed away young, but his books are incredible IMHO, cheers, Morganaa ivanovna <ivanovna12 wrote: Dear Anne, I'm sure Morgana will have more ideas about good Pluto books, but just wanted to mention that I love Donna Cunningham's "Healing Pluto Problems" and Jeff Green's "Pluto: The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul". Take care, Anniehagazussah <hagazussa wrote: Hi Morgana,What is the title of Liz Greenes book about saturn you mentioned?And pluto is in sagittarius right now. Yes pluto gives more dramatically impacts on people's life. So I have noticed when it passed my sun. And yes about the twins: pluto creeped over my moon when I got pregnant and gave birth to them: it dramatically changed my work: yes because my moon is placed in my sixt house in western astrology. In Jyotish my moon is in the 8th house, so I have to figure out what that means too. I will defeinitely need to do a course as soon as I have moved house. Can you recommend any good specific books about pluto? I have only read about Pluto in the general books about planets and astrology from Stephen Forrest and Stephen Arroyo.Anne , morgana <aquatiger1950> wrote:> Hi Anne, I am referring to the western idea of Saturn when I speak about it, or refer to Liz Greene's book, but the Planet that really causes dramatic shifts for me (mostly horrid, but always good I guess to be transformed) is Pluto. Jyotish does not recognize the outers, but I would always have to include them. They all impact me in a huge way I have noticed, so I am happy that saturn has been so nice to me. My natal Saturn is part of a huge natal configuration in my chart too...but it is in mutual reception with Mercury adding to its flavour, cheers, Morgana> > (I am doing up the charts of the twins-a fascinating contemplation for me the moment I get a moment, thanks for their data, and might I add, NO WONDER you are experiencing burnout! M> > hagazussah <hagazussa@c...> wrote:> was: Re: 2-Bettina, & all: >MK 4/20.. ...re... How Rahu/ketu are > beneficormalefic for a horoscope?> > Hi Flick and Morgana,> > Are you specifically referring to Jyotish or also to western > interpretations of saturn? Yes saturn is setting limits, but I have > noticed that I also need limits and I am still learning to set my > limits carefully, which is not so easy. Saturn always is in a > corrective mode. When you learn the lessons of saturn, you will be > able to omit the things that are too much. I am curious about what > saturn has to say in my Jyotish chart, where it is in the 1st house > in ashwini/aries.> > Anne> > , Flick <rubysun@n...> wrote:> > On 21/4/04 12:05 am, "morgana" <aquatiger1950> wrote:> > > > > I really have to state here that Saturn is not always the bad > guy. Certainly> > > in my life Saturn has given me great gifts on the supposed bad > aspects.> > > cheers, Morgana> > > > Morgana, you are so completely right. Although some Saturn > transits have> > been tiresome for me if they've coincided with something I've been > in a> > hurry for, when I look back over my life many of the most > significant> > achievements I've had have been under Saturn sub dasas. I like Liz > Greene's> > take on Saturn, the way that it can strengthen you so much.> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 On 21/4/04 9:06 pm, " morgana " <aquatiger1950 wrote: > Another book I love is written by Howard Sassportas called, 'Gods of Change'. > He is no longer with us unfortunately having passed away young, but his books > are incredible IMHO, cheers, Morgana My friend who lives over the road (another TM person like Mark) was a friend of his. I've never read anything of his and must remedy that. She's offered me his books to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Thanks for the tip Morgana! Anne , morgana <aquatiger1950> wrote: > Yes,I was going to bring those up, thank you Annie. I just got up at noon, after staying up practically all night, so still foggy here, even though making my coffee and forgetting to put the pot under the flow would make a person think I would wake after that....still foggy albeit coffee laden all over! Everywhere except in my tummy! > > Another book I love is written by Howard Sassportas called, 'Gods of Change'. He is no longer with us unfortunately having passed away young, but his books are incredible IMHO, cheers, Morgana > > a ivanovna <ivanovna12> wrote: > Dear Anne, > I'm sure Morgana will have more ideas about good Pluto books, but just wanted to mention that I love Donna Cunningham's " Healing Pluto Problems " and Jeff Green's " Pluto: The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul " . > Take care, > Annie > > hagazussah <hagazussa@c...> wrote: > Hi Morgana, > > What is the title of Liz Greenes book about saturn you mentioned? > And pluto is in sagittarius right now. Yes pluto gives more > dramatically impacts on people's life. So I have noticed when it > passed my sun. And yes about the twins: pluto creeped over my moon > when I got pregnant and gave birth to them: it dramatically changed > my work: yes because my moon is placed in my sixt house in western > astrology. In Jyotish my moon is in the 8th house, so I have to > figure out what that means too. I will defeinitely need to do a > course as soon as I have moved house. Can you recommend any good > specific books about pluto? I have only read about Pluto in the > general books about planets and astrology from Stephen Forrest and > Stephen Arroyo. > > Anne > > , morgana > <aquatiger1950> wrote: > > Hi Anne, I am referring to the western idea of Saturn when I > speak about it, or refer to Liz Greene's book, but the Planet that > really causes dramatic shifts for me (mostly horrid, but always good > I guess to be transformed) is Pluto. Jyotish does not recognize > the outers, but I would always have to include them. They all > impact me in a huge way I have noticed, so I am happy that saturn > has been so nice to me. My natal Saturn is part of a huge natal > configuration in my chart too...but it is in mutual reception with > Mercury adding to its flavour, cheers, Morgana > > > > (I am doing up the charts of the twins-a fascinating contemplation > for me the moment I get a moment, thanks for their data, and might I > add, NO WONDER you are experiencing burnout! M > > > > hagazussah <hagazussa@c...> wrote: > > was: Re: 2-Bettina, & all: >MK 4/20.. ..re... How Rahu/ketu are > > beneficormalefic for a horoscope? > > > > Hi Flick and Morgana, > > > > Are you specifically referring to Jyotish or also to western > > interpretations of saturn? Yes saturn is setting limits, but I > have > > noticed that I also need limits and I am still learning to set my > > limits carefully, which is not so easy. Saturn always is in a > > corrective mode. When you learn the lessons of saturn, you will be > > able to omit the things that are too much. I am curious about what > > saturn has to say in my Jyotish chart, where it is in the 1st > house > > in ashwini/aries. > > > > Anne > > > > , Flick <rubysun@n...> > wrote: > > > On 21/4/04 12:05 am, " morgana " <aquatiger1950> wrote: > > > > > > > I really have to state here that Saturn is not always the bad > > guy. Certainly > > > > in my life Saturn has given me great gifts on the supposed bad > > aspects. > > > > cheers, Morgana > > > > > > Morgana, you are so completely right. Although some Saturn > > transits have > > > been tiresome for me if they've coincided with something I've > been > > in a > > > hurry for, when I look back over my life many of the most > > significant > > > achievements I've had have been under Saturn sub dasas. I like > Liz > > Greene's > > > take on Saturn, the way that it can strengthen you so much. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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