Neelakantan's system

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At 01:29 PM 4/18/04 -0000, Francois wrote:

>Hello everyone,

>

>I am new to the list and to vedic astrology. I was first interested

>by Choudhry's Systems' Approach and now I am discovering a totally

>new way of delineating vedic charts: Neelakantan's system of

>nakshatra and subs (ninth division of a nakshatra).

>

>Does anyone know if we can find literature or website on this system?

>The only thing I have is a book (115 pages!) from Jean Dethier, a

>French astrologer, who studied with the author, a summary of a former

>book published in 1985.

 

Hi Frncoise,

 

Bettina and I have used the nakshatra and navamsas constantly for a long,

long time. I can't really delineate a chart without them. But I don't know

if this is Neelakantan's system. Can you give an idea of how he uses them?

(I'll check my bookshelf. I have so many Jyotish books, I can't remember if

I have one by Neelakantan.)

 

Something else to put on my website--some examples of how the navamsas

work. It's not traditional in India, but I find the navamsa *degrees*

really important sometimes. Many astrological programs now compute the

navamsas with degrees.

 

Yes...I'll make a note to find some good examples of how the navamsas work.

 

Blessings,

Therese

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Hello Therese,

 

> Bettina and I have used the nakshatra and navamsas constantly for a long,

> long time. I can't really delineate a chart without them. But I don't know

> if this is Neelakantan's system. Can you give an idea of how he uses them?

> (I'll check my bookshelf. I have so many Jyotish books, I can't remember

if

> I have one by Neelakantan.)

 

Well actually, it's the way planets signify houses (not necessarily by

ruling them). Everything starts with the nakshatra lord. Also, a quadrant

house system is used (usually Placidus).

 

Let's take an example with a Scorpio lagna.

 

Suppose we have the Moon at 17°30'Leo: it is located in a Venus nakshatra.

If Venus is located in the first placidean house, then the Moon signify the

First house. Let say that Venus rules the sixth, seventh and eleventh houses

and that they are all empty of planets, then the Moon also signify those

houses.

 

If the nakshatra of the Moon are all empty of planets, it will signify the

house it is located in and the house it rule (eighth house), if this house

is empty of planets.

 

The subs, as Annick told you, are divisions of a nakshatra in the same way

degrees divide a stellar zodiacal sign. Each part (around one degree) is

given a planet as lord.

 

The Lords of the sub and the nakshatra of the Moon are very important in

this system. The Star Lord (of the nakshatra of the Moon) gives the " basis "

of the chart according to the sign it rules counted from the Ascendant. So,

Venus, as Star Lord, with a Scorpio lagna, means a basis 7 (Taurus is the

seventh sign from Scorpio) and 12 (Libra is the twelfth sign from Scorpio).

 

I wonder if the system is not linked to Krishnamurty and his master in some

way, who also use Placidus house system?

 

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Regards - François

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Dear Francois,

Is it similar to KP? It sounds like the somewhat simplified version of KP I have studied. I called up my favorite source for Vedic books in the US, but although he said he'd heard of something like Neelakantan he didn't have anything on it. He said he'd get back to me if he could remember more or locate something, though. I googled it, but still no results related to Jyotish. From what you say it certainly sounds intriguing. Hope you find more info and then can share it with us!

Best wishes,

AnnieFrancois Carriere <francois.carriere wrote:

Hello everyone,I am new to the list and to vedic astrology. I was first interested by Choudhry's Systems' Approach and now I am discovering a totally new way of delineating vedic charts: Neelakantan's system of nakshatra and subs (ninth division of a nakshatra).Does anyone know if we can find literature or website on this system? The only thing I have is a book (115 pages!) from Jean Dethier, a French astrologer, who studied with the author, a summary of a former book published in 1985.-- Regards - François

 

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At 02:09 PM 4/18/04 -0400, Francois wrote:

 

>The Lords of the sub and the nakshatra of the Moon are very important in

>this system. The Star Lord (of the nakshatra of the Moon) gives the " basis "

>of the chart according to the sign it rules counted from the Ascendant. So,

>Venus, as Star Lord, with a Scorpio lagna, means a basis 7 (Taurus is the

>seventh sign from Scorpio) and 12 (Libra is the twelfth sign from Scorpio).

>

>I wonder if the system is not linked to Krishnamurty and his master in some

>way, who also use Placidus house system?

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Yes, this sounds like Krishnamurti. A long time ago I had made up tables

for his subs, but never came to any conclusion about using them. K used

them mainly for horary astrology, and I don't do horary. In India only

Krishnamurti uses the subs and the Placidus house system.

 

I have to analyze what you wrote here, but it sounds somewhat different

than Krishnamurti. I'll print it out. For some reason I feel very dizzy

today. (A local doctor said that some of us are allergic to the spring

cedar pollen in the area, and my yard is full of cedars...) I can't spend

much time at the computer.

 

Neelakantan--is he a modern author? I should know, but I'm disoriented

today--dizziness. If modern, when did he die? What's his first name? A web

search pulled up quite a number of Neelakantans.

 

Therese