2-Adnan, Veena, & All: ...4/3....How to Study Jyotish......!

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Dear Adnan, & friends, all:

 

 

 

I have this simple thing I put people through in my Jyotish courses, which can help alot, in studying Jyotish/Astrology...

 

To keep self-referral, to stay focused on what you know as Truth, and to draw more and more Truth, to yourself...

 

Before you start....studying...all the books...

 

Do one simple thing..

 

Make a list of all your Qualities, Tendencies, and Characteristics:

 

I call this the 'qualities list'....

 

And in that...write down as many things as possible, that you know about yourself...

 

How you feel about yourSelf?, self-confidence,...

Emotionalism, stable? intutive, flexible...etc...

Intellectual ?

 

On and on...

and then, as you're studying your Astrology....

 

When you find something....that sounds like you, especially if you find in 2 or more sources,....

and....

especially, if you can find one of your 'qualities'..that seems to fit that Astrological description...

then,.....write the Jyotish configuration....next to your Quality...

 

When you get through your entire Qualities, list...and you've got an Astrological configuration that fits each one...

then, you've done it.. you've learned a lot.....!

 

See below for the sample... you might like....to use..

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jyotish Mastery Course...

 

 

 

 

 

Hi....Friends & Course Participants....

 

 

 

Here is a partial list of some of the qualities and tendencies...

I was thinking about...

 

 

Feel free to use this format....

and add anything else that you can think of....

 

 

 

 

Human Nature, Tendencies, Characteristics, Qualities....

 

Everyone has qualities and tendencies... which we don't always realize are qualities of our Jyotish Charts, as well.

 

Here are some examples of what I mean.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

And have fun!

 

Remember, no tests or grading in Mark's jyotish classes!

hehehe

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

Self.........

 

Self-confident,

lack of self-confidence...? Describe how you feel about

yourSelf.....

 

 

Emotional nature...

 

Happy, joyful, sad, worried, fearful,

phobias, paranoia, cheerful....etc.

emotional, intuitive... or lack of....again, describe yourself!

 

Personality.....

 

Outgoing, shy, reserved, happy go lucky

intellectual, or cerebral, out of doors, etc., describe....

 

Mind Set....

 

Easy going, restless, irritable, happy, intellectual

angry.....sad.... whatever....

 

Intellect.....

 

Quick minded, intellectual, intelligent-intellectually,

linear thinking....

 

Artistic

 

Creative, artistic, spacial, right brained....

Business oriented....

 

Ambitious, worldly, achievement, oriented....

 

Work....

 

Am doing what I love to do....

Have the best job in the world...

Not doing what I would love to do...

What kind of work.... I do do...

Boss, partner, sales, administration, accounting,

service....

 

Family....

 

Married, single, children, divorced....etc....

previously married? how often, how long, dates...

 

Parents Family....

 

Relationships with parents, Mother, Father....

Siblings, how many and younger, older....

Relationships with siblings....

 

Health

 

Good, frustrating, recuperate easily, ill-health

takes long time to recuperate....

dis-ease....diseases.... etc. deaths...around one...

 

Financial Matters...

 

Have plenty of money. Money comes slowly...

Not only lack of money, but lots of debt....?

 

Spirituality....

 

yes...no.... maybe.... whatever....

How you might define yourself...

Religious...?

 

 

Quality of Time Periods....you're presently going through....

 

Happy, lucky, frustrating, wish I was somewhere else,

easy going....etc.....

 

Accidents....

 

Accident prone, no accidents.... sometimes...etc.

 

Misc....

 

Anything else, really, that you can think of yourself,

especially those things that you'd like to understand better,

Astrologically.

 

 

 

When you've written down as many of your qualities as you can think of, make a copy and send to me.

 

That'll help me follow your thinking and progress in the course.!

 

 

 

Good Luck!

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" Adnan Sabri Koru " <korua

 

Sun, 4 Apr 2004 13:40:49 +0300

 

Re: 2-Flick...4/3....Re: Moon & Other Simultaneous Astrological Forces....!

 

 

Dear Veena, dear friends, dear Mark,

 

For the basics, there are some files and lessons at the files sections of other Jyotish groups, also some of the websites have some lessons available.

 

" But " I do not think this is the best way to go. Best is to get 2-3 " good " basic books, and read and study the one that you like the best. One good book for beginning is " Light on Life, An introduction to the astrology of India " by Defouw and Svoboda. This is both a beginners book and is quite comprehensive. Also the information inside is very well organized for the beginner, e.g. the reader learns in a logical sequence of steps.

 

There is a huge number of books printed on Jyotish, but most is not suitable for the beginner, since they are not well organized, reading the thoughts and knowledge of a Jyotish Pandit, written down in an unorganized manner (even though the text may be very valuable) is not conducive to easy learning in steps.

 

Once you get the basics more or less straight, it would be good to get a copy of the, what I would call the basic book for Jyotish, Parashara's Hora Shastra, which is a " reference " book.

 

Jyotish according to my beleif is a science but is unlike sciences like Maths and Physics, where you build blocks of knowledge one on the top of the other. For the basics this may be so to a certain extent. But as you advance you can not continue in logical steps except by the guidance of a good Guru. It is more the development of one faculty of the mind, which can be termed as " Jyotish intuition " , and this comes from much practice, and reading, not so much logic.

 

When you look at a chart, you see 9 Planets/Grahas in 12 Houses/Bhavas. An accomplished Jyotish Pandit can derive from this, unimaginable amount of insight and predictions, and all this can not be formulised in a systematic series of logical formulas. Going by the basic principles in the books, one can say 100 things for a chart, 60 of which may be contradicting to others, and to the reality of the native represented by the chart. So in comes " intuition " which would seperate the applicable from the non-applicable, through a process that can not be formulised logically. So the only solution (according to my humble view) is to practice and practice with a good set of basic tools, e.g. knowledge and principles.

 

I've seen on discussion lists things like; " For this chart, this is here and that is there, so how come the result (or the perdiction) is like that, I do not beleive this is possible " . This kind of too simplistic apporach to Jyotish I beleive does not work, so one should not be expecting a simple logical formula or method to become a good Jyotishi, this simply does not exist, since intuition can not be formulised into a logical and a systematic / complete set of rules.

 

This by the way, is the fun side of Jyotish, since arguments based on different views can go on and on.

 

One should also be aware of the fact that there is not one single method and set of tools to analyse a chart. Two Jyotishis using an almost totally different sets of tools can analyse the same chart and arrive at the same predictions.

 

Best regards, Adnan.

 

 

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vichitra_veena <vichitra_veena

Sunday, April 04, 2004 10:29 AM

2-Flick...4/3....Re: Moon & Other Simultaneous Astrological Forces....!

 

Dear all,

I am delighted to soak in another forum of valuable discusssions.I

do wish i knew at leats the basics of astrology so that i can

appreciate the jupiters, the venus and the cancer and virgo and their

houses better. They are almost greek to me.

Is there some place where I can pick up some basic lessons which will

help me understand this better.

Harri Om

Veena

 

 

 

, Mark Kincaid

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> Dear Flick:

>

> Well, this is why I like to look at the many, astrological

influences that

> sometimes, simultaneously go.

>

> For example, right now, it's getting extremely close to the full

Moon... but

> the particular 'restlessness', you mention, sounds more like a

Saturn

> flavor.

>

> And Gemini is in Gemini, right now, according to Jyotish, and

Jyotish also

> says Saturn influences 3 Houses away from itself.

>

> So, you've got the Moon in Leo, up there with jupiter. When you

look into

> the sky, you can see Jupiter in Leo!... And Saturn's in Gemini....

> This is one of the classic Jyotish Saturn> Moon experiences I've

noticed

> over the years....that Saturn casts a direct influence 3 Houses

away....

>

> When you watch the transits, from the point of view of the Jyotish

aspects,

> you can see these slight flavors more easily...

>

> Also, both Rahu and Mars are supposed to be influencing.... Leo,

too right

> now.

>

> Rahu's in Aries, influencing Leo, due to it's 5th House aspect, and

Mars in

> in Taurus, influencing Leo, from it's 4th House aspect.

>

> The Moon is a tremendous tool, to be able to see, and confirm these

subtle

> aspects of the Transits....

>

> And once we get clear, in the transits, then we understand the

Jyotish

> ideas, principles and rules much more easily.

>

> take care

>

>

> Hope you get some software soon...

>

>

> Mark

>

>

>

> > Flick <rubysun@n...>

> >

> > Sat, 03 Apr 2004 22:21:42 +0100

> >

> > Re: 2-Flick...4/3....Re:

Experiencing the Stars &

> > Esp. Full Moon coming up!

> >

> > Well, I don't know, I followed the Moon's cycle closely for

years, did

> > ritual on full moons, one of my books is about the Moon and her

phases, but

> > last night's moon was particularly restless. It's been years

since I woke in

> > the night and just couldn't sleep. I really must put my chart up

and look at

> > my transits and how the moon ties in...no Vedic software yet so

it will have

> > to western.

> >

> > I find a strong energy surge at new moon too, just on the actual

day of

> > astronomical newness, while it's still dark. My husband worked

for several

> > years with homeless people with drug, alcohol and mental health

problems,

> > and he said there is a peak of unpredictable behaviour at both

new and full

> > moons, though the new moon peak is less pronounced.

> >

> > On 3/4/04 7:06 pm, " Mark Kincaid " <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> >

> >> Dear Flick:

> >>

> >> I notice that especially, around the Full Moon, like now...

> >>

> >> that 'wakefulness'...is soooooo strong...that sleep....is not so

> >> necessary....or easy...

> >>

> >> but when the Moon is very small, like in 2-weeks.... I can sleep

for hours!

> >>

> >> Mark

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>> Flick <rubysun@n...>

> >>>

> >>> Sat, 03 Apr 2004 18:13:50 +0100

> >>>

> >>> Re: 4/3....Re: Experiencing &

Feeling the Stars!

> >>>

> >>> On 3/4/04 3:57 pm, " Mark Kincaid " <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Dear Friends:

> >>>>

> >>>> Here's an interesting short discussion regarding how one

can 'feel' the

> >>>> Stars' movements!

> >>>>

> >>>> Mark

> >>>>

> >>>> Did you feel the great Moon & Jupiter.... closeness ...

> >>>> last nite, hear around 9pm...

> >>>

> >>> I had an exceptionally wonderful day yesterday

> >>>

> >>>> I looked up and saw....the glorious Moon...shining...

> >>>> right next to a bright object....

> >>>

> >>> I thought it might be Jupiter...

> >>>

> >>>> and when I did a chart for this very exact moment...

> >>>> I noticed....that was jupiter!

> >>>> and wow, could I feel it!

> >>>

> >>> But then I woke up at 2.40am British summer time and couldn't

get back to

> >>> sleep.

> >>>>

> >>>> ciao

> >>>>

> >>>> Mark

> >>>> ps.... would you mind sending our emails through my

natureastrology

> >>>> website...

> >>>> I'd like others to hear...some of our discussions sometimes...

> >>>> the personal one's we can still....send personally back and

forth..

> >>>

> >>> Mark, this may be complicating things a bit. Why don't you

forward the ones

> >>> you feel are4 worth sharing?

> >>>>

> >>>> thanks...

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> " Adnan Sabri Koru " <korua@e...>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >