2- & Janna, from Mark Kincaid,....3/23..... Jupitor questions

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Dear Janna:

 

To respond to your remarks, see below....

 

 

 

 

 

 

> " Janna Lynn " <jnanalynn>

>>>

>>> Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:13:33 -0000

>>>

>>> 2-, from Mark Kincaid,....3/21..... Re:=

>

>

>>> Jupitor remedies >>>

>>>

>>> Dear Mark:

>>>

>>> I enjoy your insights on Guru-Jupiter. One question about this discussi=

>

> on: I

>>> have been with the " teachings of Guru " for over thirty years, so that i=

>

> s not a

>>> problem. However, I am Cancer lagna and in Jupiter Dasa, and Jupiter is=

>

>

>>> therefore malefic for Cancer lagna. It seems that it would not be

> appropriate

>>> at

>>> this time to " strengthen Guru " through wearing/eating yellow-colored

> items,

>>> etc. In fact, the phase I'm in is a Siddartha-like appreciation of the =

>

> Guru's

>>> teachings, but singularly following my own path to Self-realization (i.=

>

> e.,

>>> following the Guru within instead of through externalized teachings). =

 

Janna: I think your appreciation of how we all can by following the 'guru within',

 

do great credit to the Jupiter in our charts and our lives...

 

What I've learned by studying the Dasas, is the issues of those planets tend to play out or be the forces that are most predominate in the present.

 

I, however, also believe in what I call the 3 Pillar approach to Jyotish.

 

By learning how to look at all the 3 Major or Pillar areas of our Jyotish; is. our charts, Dasas and Transits... I've learned....that 98% of the time, I can find whatever I'm going through....

 

in either one of these 3 major areas....

 

Then, I learned if I allow myself to pay more attention to those lessons, 'right now'....I've noticed that my life tends to smooth out and feel ultra orderly and progressive...

 

I believe the Dasas and Transits, especially show us what areas of our lives we're supposed to be looking at; and either enjoying or improving...

 

If I was 'you'....I'd reflect on my Jupiter during this time....

 

In retrospect, now that I've been in Sani for many years; looking back I realize Jupiter was my major 'expansive period', and since then, I've felt this tremendous 'focusing' goings on, as I've moved into Sani....

 

I, too, however, enjoy a lot of bliss and freedom by pursuing my path, rigorously, in my own terms; so I appreciate that same kind of flavor in yours.

 

What I do, specifically with people, is I respond to specific questions and areas of their charts that they'd like to focus more on...

 

What's most going on right now? And what would you like to see improved or better during this period?

 

take care

 

 

Mark K.

 

 

>

> Do

> you

>>> agree that I should not attempt to strengthen Jupiter at this time beca=

>

> use

> of

>>> lagna and Dasa?

>>>

>>> Janna

 

> " Janna Lynn " <jnanalynn

>

> Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:25:05 -0000

>

> 2- & Janna, from Mark Kincaid,....3/23..... Re:

> Jupitor quest

>

> Dear Mark:

>

> RE:

>>

>> Can't seem to find your chart, can you send me your date of birth info

>> again. day, time, place and jyotish rising sign if you know it...

>>

> July 22, 1946 06:56 AM, Salt Lake City, Utah, US, Cancer lagna 25

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> Ascendant 25°1'10 " Can Moon Ashlesha Aq=

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> u

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> Sun 6°2'41 " Can Moon Pushya Leo=

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> Moon 15°48'41 " Ari Mar Bharani Leo=

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> Mars 25°49'34 " Leo Sun Purva Phalguni Sc=

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> o

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> Mercury 22°56'25 " Can Moon Ashlesha Cap=

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> Jupiter 26°23'24 " Vir Mar Chitra Le=

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> o

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> Venus 16°58'21 " Leo Sun Purva Phalguni Vi=

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> r

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> Saturn 5°28'10 " Can Moon Pushya Le=

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> o

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> Uranus 26°57'29 " Tau Ven Mrigashira Vir=

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> Neptune 13°4'19 " Vir Mar Hasta Ari=

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> Pluto 17°55'22 " Can Moon Ashlesha Sag=

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> Rahu 25°38'36 " Tau Ven Mrigashira Leo=

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> Ketu 25°38'36 " Sco Mar Jyeshtha Aq=

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> u

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> VIMSHOTTARI DASA

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> Ve/Su: 7/22/1946 Ve/Mo: 3/3/1947 Ve/Ma: 11/3/1948

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> Ve/Ra: 1/3/1950 Ve/Ju: 1/3/1953 Ve/Sa: 9/3/1955

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> Ve/Me: 11/3/1958 Ve/Ke: 9/3/1961

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> Su/Su: 11/3/1962 Su/Mo: 2/21/1963 Su/Ma: 8/21/1963

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> Su/Ra: 12/27/1963 Su/Ju: 11/21/1964 Su/Sa: 9/9/1965

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> Su/Me: 8/21/1966 Su/Ke: 6/27/1967 Su/Ve: 11/3/1967

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> Mo/Mo: 11/3/1968 Mo/Ma: 9/3/1969 Mo/Ra: 4/3/1970

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> Mo/Ju: 10/3/1971 Mo/Sa: 2/3/1973 Mo/Me: 9/3/1974

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> Mo/Ke: 2/3/1976 Mo/Ve: 9/3/1976 Mo/Su: 5/3/1978

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> Ma/Ma: 11/3/1978 Ma/Ra: 4/1/1979 Ma/Ju: 4/18/1980

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> Ma/Sa: 3/24/1981 Ma/Me: 5/3/1982 Ma/Ke: 5/1/1983

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> Ma/Ve: 9/27/1983 Ma/Su: 11/27/1984 Ma/Mo: 4/3/1985

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> Ra/Ra: 11/3/1985 Ra/Ju: 7/15/1988 Ra/Sa: 12/9/1990

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> Ra/Me: 10/15/1993 Ra/Ke: 5/3/1996 Ra/Ve: 5/21/1997

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> Ra/Su: 5/21/2000 Ra/Mo: 4/15/2001 Ra/Ma: 10/15/2002

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> Ju/Ju: 11/3/2003 Ju/Sa: 12/21/2005 Ju/Me: 7/3/2008

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> Ju/Ke: 10/9/2010 Ju/Ve: 9/15/2011 Ju/Su: 5/15/2014

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> Ju/Mo: 3/3/2015 Ju/Ma: 7/3/2016 Ju/Ra: 6/9/2017

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> Sa/Sa: 11/3/2019 Sa/Me: 11/6/2022 Sa/Ke: 7/15/2025

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> Sa/Ve: 8/24/2026 Sa/Su: 10/24/2029 Sa/Mo: 10/6/2030

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> Sa/Ma: 5/6/2032 Sa/Ra: 6/15/2033 Sa/Ju: 4/21/2036

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> Me/Me: 11/3/2038 Me/Ke: 4/1/2041 Me/Ve: 3/27/2042

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> Me/Su: 1/27/2045 Me/Mo: 12/3/2045 Me/Ma: 5/3/2047

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> Me/Ra: 5/1/2048 Me/Ju: 11/18/2050 Me/Sa: 2/24/2053

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> Ke/Ke: 11/3/2055 Ke/Ve: 4/1/2056 Ke/Su: 6/1/2057

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> Ke/Mo: 10/6/2057 Ke/Ma: 5/6/2058 Ke/Ra: 10/3/2058

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> Ke/Ju: 10/21/2059 Ke/Sa: 9/27/2060 Ke/Me: 11/6/2061

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> Janna

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>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> " Janna Lynn " <jnanalynn>

>>>

>>> Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:13:33 -0000

>>>

>>> 2-, from Mark Kincaid,....3/21..... Re:=

>

>

>>> Jupitor remedies >>>

>>>

>>> Dear Mark:

>>>

>>> I enjoy your insights on Guru-Jupiter. One question about this discussi=

>

> on: I

>>> have been with the " teachings of Guru " for over thirty years, so that i=

>

> s not a

>>> problem. However, I am Cancer lagna and in Jupiter Dasa, and Jupiter is=

>

>

>>> therefore malefic for Cancer lagna. It seems that it would not be

> appropriate

>>> at

>>> this time to " strengthen Guru " through wearing/eating yellow-colored

> items,

>>> etc. In fact, the phase I'm in is a Siddartha-like appreciation of the =

>

> Guru's

>>> teachings, but singularly following my own path to Self-realization (i.=

>

> e.,

>>> following the Guru within instead of through externalized teachings). =

>

> Do

> you

>>> agree that I should not attempt to strengthen Jupiter at this time beca=

>

> use

> of

>>> lagna and Dasa?

>>>

>>> Janna

>>>

>>> Satyam Shivam Sundaram

>>>

>>> http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> , Mark Kincaid <

> m.kincaid@m...>

>>> wrote:

>>>> Dear Friends:

>>>>

>>>> Here's a wonderful discussion about various remedies to increase one's=

>

>

>>>> Jupiter power...

>>>>

>>>> Sincerely,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Mark Kincaid

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Dear Friends:

>>>>

>>>> Can we also take this propitiation of Jupiter up a notch out of the pl=

>

> anet

>>>> kingdom and consider what other wonderful means can we employ to

> bring

>>> more

>>>> Jupiter Wisdom into our lives...

>>>>

>>>> It's helped me knowing from Jyotish what Jupiter or Guru, in fact mean=

>

> s.

>>>> Guru represents the teacher, the Guru, who gives us pure Knowledge.

>>> What

>>>> you can see in people's charts, is their disciplehood, is a fascinatin=

>

> g

>>>> reflection of the status, or quality of the Jupiter in their charts. =

>

> Those

>>>> with relatively good, better or even excelent Jupiter's have an openes=

>

> s to

>>>> teachers and sometimes a receptivity that a good disciple or student

>>>> represents.

>>>>

>>>> Then there's the whole concern for how can I increase my Jupiter power=

>

>

>>> and

>>>> Wisdom in my life. One of the best questions I ever heard about

>>>> Spirituality went like this:

>>>> " Jerry, (a meditation teacher), What is the most important quality for=

>

>

>>>> growth of enlightenment? "

>>>> He said: " Desire, desire for enlightenment is the most important thing=

>

> . "

>>>>

>>>> I always found this very interesting because I thought the answer migh=

>

> t

> be

>>>> years of experience in meditation or something else. And I noticed th=

>

> at

>>>> this was true in my own life. No matter how poor or fulls of struggle=

>

> s

>>>> one's life has been, one's future is still in one's hands. So, desiri=

>

> ng for

>>>> more Jupiter power, wishing and willing to expand one's Jupiter power =

>

> is

>>> one

>>>> of the best Vedic and therefore Jyotish remedies for Spiritual growth.=

>

>

>>>>

>>>> Add on top of that, anything that expands the Jupiter power within you=

>

> ,

> #1,

>>>> I'd say is transcendence. When you open yourself to the big Self of t=

>

> he

>>>> Universe, all possibilities start to move within you. Once you're doi=

>

> ng

>>>> that, there are many other examples of activities and practices that w=

>

> ill

>>>> increase Jupiter's power...

>>>>

>>>> Yellow or Yellow sapphire, or in your example bananas, all can help. =

>

>

> But,

>>>> there's a huge difference between wearing a yellow shirt and eating

>>> bananas

>>>> and finding a yellow sapphire.

>>>>

>>>> Other even more powerful Vedic remedies that will probably increase

> one's

>>>> Jupiter strength, include Yaguas, mantras of all kinds, there are even=

>

>

>>>> mantras that are prescribed for different health problems.

>>>>

>>>> To me, the most important thing I've done that has probably increased =

>

>

> my

>>> own

>>>> devotion and strength of Jupiter, is finding a Guru...in life.

>>>>

>>>> I used to be a Philosophy and Education major in college and I loved

> good

>>>> teachers. Opening yourself, then, to the Wisdoms of good teachers, in=

>

>

> other

>>>> words, having good Mentors, in one's life, can't help but increase the=

>

>

>>>> Jupiter sense.

>>>>

>>>> There are many examples of great Gurus that if we open ourselves, our

>>>> awareness and our hearts to their wisdom, should strengthen, therefore=

>

> ,

> our

>>>> own Jupiters.

>>>>

>>>> In the West, Christ is the most notable example that comes to mind in =

>

>

> terms

>>>> of Great Western Gurus. Another one that had a powerful effect on me =

>

>

> was

>>>> the personality and wisdom of St. Francis of Assisi. There were also =

>

>

> other

>>>> Christian Saints that moved me very deeply too.

>>>>

>>>> Then, of course, you have the great Spiritual traditions of the East, =

>

> and

> so

>>>> many great teachers, or Gurus, to pick from. Some of the one's that

> moved

>>>> me the most were Krishna, and the Bhagavad-gita. And then there was

>>> Buddha,

>>>> and Shankara, and modern day saints like Swami Yogananda and his

>>> Holiness

>>>> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, of transcendental meditation fame.

>>>>

>>>> I've noticed when you study the works of great souls, you enliven many=

>

>

> of

>>>> the aspects of Jupiter. Since Jupiter, in fact, means Guru, when you =

>

>

> open

>>>> yourself to the Wisdom of any Guru, it changes you. You grow in

> Wisdom

>>> and

>>>> you grow in receptivity and sincerity.

>>>>

>>>> Then, there's the train of thought that Lord God, was the first Guru. =

>

> So,

>>>> even if you don't have a personal Guru, one can have a personal,

> disciple

>>>> relationship with God Him/Herself...and as a result grow in Jupiter po=

>

> wer.

>>>>

>>>> When people come to me, via. their Jyotish charts, and they have any

>>>> problems with their Jupiters. Jupiter may be in a poor sign, or in a =

>

> poor

>>>> house, or it's powers may be diminished by some association with

> malefic

>>>> influences, some of my innocent prescriptions are to inspire them with=

>

>

> the

>>>> Wisdom of Jupiter, or Guru, and faith is both a great sign and tool of=

>

>

>>>> spirituality. Faith, has, in fact, been the primary technique of choi=

>

> ce for

>>>> most religions for thousands of years.

>>>> Faith, opens our hearts to God, in spite of all the outer signs, of mi=

>

> sery.

>>>>

>>>> And when you open your heart to faith, actual genuine Spiritual or

> Jupiter

>>>> experience can come.

>>>> Today, and for many, throughout time, Spiritual, meditative, or

>>>> contemplative experience has been a great complement to pure faith.

> They

>>>> work together.

>>>>

>>>> So, no matter where a person is starting and coming from, open

> yourselves

>>> to

>>>> your next stage of Jupiter growth and you'll be very happy you did!

>>>>

>>>> Jai Guru!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Sincerely,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Mark Kincaid

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> PS....I don't know if you've heard, but I also write a Jyotish newslet=

>

> ter.

>>>> It includes a daily, Transits newsletter as well as other aspects of J=

>

> yotish

>>>> as well. If you, or anyone else in this group is interested, in

>>>> subscribing, feel free to contact me personally at: m.kincaid@m... And=

>

>

>>>> the newsletter is free.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> " bhuwanvashishtha " <bhuwanvashishtha>

>>>>>

>>>>> Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:28:08 -0000

>>>>>

>>>>> Re: Jupitor remedies >>> explained @ Lal Kitab

>>>>>

>>>>> Respected members,

>>>>>

>>>>> Tanvir bhai has rightly said that if you have to propitiate Jupiter ,=

>

>

>>>>> you must not have a banana plant in the house , try avoid eating

>>>>> banana fruit and have plants with yellow flowers inside of the house.=

>

>

>>>>> According to the Lal Kitab , which gives secular remedies , banana

>>>>> plant is an object associated with Mercury . We all know that Jupiter=

>

>

>>>>> and Mercury are enemies. Now you can not appease Jupiter by having

>>>>> its enemy in the house , it is simple. Next the banana fruit , Lal

>>>>> Kitab associates it with Ketu . The relationship of Ketu and Jupiter

>>>>> is one of chela and guru , Ketu is a chela of Jupiter , therefore

>>>>> avoid eating the chela otherwise you might annoy the guru instead of

>>>>> appeasing him. And finally the yellow flowering plants. Yellow is the=

>

>

>>>>> colour for Jupiter , and by having yellow flower plants in the

>>>>> house , we are trying to establish Jupiter in the 4th house, our

>>>>> home. And we all know that Jupiter is at its most benefic in the 4th

>>>>> house , better than even in the 9th. Now it explains the entire

>>>>> rationale of remedies based on the centuries old traditional wisdom .=

>

>

>>>>>

>>>>> With lots of respect and regards to the learned here.

>>>>>

>>>>> bhuwan

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> , " Tanvir Chowdhury "

>>>>> <lord_narayana@l...> wrote:

>>>>>> Required lots of reading - Yes and No. As an example, I know a

>>>>>> Spanish girl who is translating and memorizing BPHS and I always

>>>>> say

>>>>>> her that it is USELESS for her, bec BPHS is like a raw material

>>>>>> [suppose, raw iron] but an astrologer has to make a usable sword of

>>>>>> it to use, that would need lots os studying and practice and

>>>>> checking

>>>>>> the theories and 'owning them' in a way which works. Means reading

>>>>>> BPHS and mastering it both are really different. The reader will be

>>>>>> very confused with so many 'supposed contradictory' theories in

>>>>> BPHS

>>>>>> but will not know/understand how to use them same time, which is

>>>>>> needed!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So rather than reading BPHS, read some good books by good authors

>>>>> who

>>>>>> already have 'the sword' made by themselves and not providing you

>>>>>> with raw irons! :-)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Even before that you can learn some basics like houses, signs,

>>>>>> planets, basic nature, rulerships etc from beginner books and also

>>>>>> you can read articles and write ups by me, found in http://jyotish-

>>>>>> articles.netfirms.com , I write them in such a way that anyone can

>>>>>> understand it well. Later after that, you can start reading good

>>>>>> books by good authors, we will let you know when you need !

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>> Tanvir.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> , " jalees_ch "

>>>>> <jalees_ch>

>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> Yes I am a muslim, and have very little knowledge of astrology in

>>>>>>> fact I joined your group in order to understand it ,but till now

>>>>> i

>>>>>>> am very confused,I am reading as much I can but I believe its a

>>>>>> very

>>>>>>> complicated subject ,and a lot of reading is required,

>>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>>> Asma

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> , " Tanvir Chowdhury "

>>>>>>> <lord_narayana@l...> wrote:

>>>>>>>> There are some people [including myself] who are very much

>>>>>>> sensitive

>>>>>>>> about the most subtle effects, keeping or eating banana do

>>>>> affect

>>>>>>>> them a lot. But to most of the people these subtle remedies do

>>>>>> not

>>>>>>>> work or work so little near to nill. Growing Yellow colour

>>>>>> flowers

>>>>>>>> are such kind of remedies gotten from Lal Kitab etc., I never

>>>>>>> tested

>>>>>>>> this one personally. In my personal experience the most

>>>>> effective

>>>>>>>> remedy is mantras and it is the best sort of remedies

>>>>> considering

>>>>>>> all

>>>>>>>> other facts, too.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> No, I do not have remedies in the form of ayat or Surrah, I

>>>>> guess

>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>> are a Muslim. (?)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>>>> Tanvir.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> , " jalees_ch "

>>>>>>> <jalees_ch>

>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Hello Tanvir.

>>>>>>>>> I want to clear a confussion,in the remedies section for

>>>>> jupitor

>>>>>>>>> you have written avoid eating and even keeping bananas in

>>>>>> home,

>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>>> grow plants with yellow color flowers,could you please

>>>>> explain

>>>>>>>>> it,can we keep these plants indoors?

>>>>>>>>> Just curios you are an expert in astrology and remedies of

>>>>>>>> different

>>>>>>>>> planets but you have no remedies in the form of ayat or

>>>>> surrah

>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>>> Quran?

>>>>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>>>>> Asma

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

>>>>>