Differance of KP &Lahiri Ayanamsa

September 22, 2008

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

September 22, 2008

Hi

Ayanamsha is one of the toughfest matter which can not be fix the correctness .

NCLahiri is popular and KP original is new , but now KP new ayanamsha also introduced.

In fact I am following KP orginal ayanamsha and found very accuracy, but Mr.Tinwin erected my chart and he confirmed KPNA suits with the past events.

Please make use of KPNA and try with some charts which may give the clue of the correctness of ayanamsha.

Sahhasra Saagara--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa Date: Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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September 23, 2008

KPA in JHora is Old KPA.To use New KPA in JHora, first calculate NKPA from the Tables given in the File section, and then adjust the difference "0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri". which will be changing depending on each and every DOB, not constant, to get NKPA on the JHora display.

, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote:>> Pranam> > Dear Members,> The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.> When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.> According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than Lahiri> Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.> Good Luck> Sunaparantha>

September 23, 2008

Dear Sunaprathna,

I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa Date: Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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September 23, 2008

Dear Sundar,

It has been clarified many a time at this site that the latest New K.P. Ayanamsas for 100 years is published in the 2003 issue of K.P. & Astrology...also Mr.Raichur has been kind enough to submit this at this site too...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561 Sent: Tuesday, 23 September, 2008 10:01:22 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaprathna,

I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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September 23, 2008

1. Deducting of 6 min from Lahiri Ayanamsa to get the Old KP Ayanamsa is not correct. The difference is changing depending on DOB due to the difference in annual rate of precision and adjustment rate of this precision rate. Pl refer

A REVIEW OF KP AYANAMSAS.doc

in File section and the abstract is given below:

7.1. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st January)Year . OKPA .. .NKPA ……. KPSTLA….. LAHIRI 1000.. 09-50*.. 09-50-25..09-53-25..09-51-29 1850...21-40…..21-40-24…21-45-08…21-45-371900 ..22-22….22-22-16….22-27-00…22-27-561950.. 23-04….23-04-08…23-08-52…23-09-28 2000 .23-46….23-46-01….23-50-44…23-51-113000. 37-45*..37-45-33…37-48-03…37-51-26 OKPA= Old KPA, NKPA= New KPA, KPSTLA= KP Straight Line (Adjusted)* As per formula of Mr. Neville Lang (developer of Astracadabra)

2. KP Ayanamsa in JHora (any version) is to be taken as Old KP Ayanamsa calculated up to the DOB, not flat for the entire year as taken in the KP litrature.

, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561 wrote:>> Dear Sunaprathna,> Â > I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.> Â > Â > Sundar> > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan sunaparantha wrote:> > Sunaparantha Kalyan sunaparantha Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM> > > > > > > > > Pranam> > Dear Members,> The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.> When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.> According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than Lahiri> Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.> Good Luck> Sunaparantha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://in.messenger./invite/>

September 23, 2008

Dear SundarPl. go through Mr.tw's mail appeared today in the group, on the subject.I am using the latest -Ver 7.02We will try it with some trial OK.Good LuckSunaparanthaSundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaprathna,

I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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September 23, 2008

Dear Friends,

1. Lahiri, Original KP or New KP Ayanamsa is not a big deal because

what ever is used, the starlord and sublord (basis for KP analysis)

of cusps and planets do not change except in the border line cases.

Lahiri is used by most Vedic astrologers and some KP and KP realted

astrologers (KP Straight line is almost Larhiri within around 40 sec

difference).

2. Lahiri was approved by the Government sponsored Calendars Reform

Commitee in 1956 and in 1994 conference of All India Panchanga

Makers, out of 48 participants, 39 approved Lahiri.

3. But we use the KP ayanamsa, and the Original and New KPA are the

same, except that the Original takes the flat value for the entire

year up to the accuracy of minutes only by a table and the New

calculates the value up to the DOB and accuracy of seconds by a

formula. (Pl refer A REVIEW OF KP AYANAMSAS in the File section)

4. In the Kanak Bosmia's study of 200 events of 20 AA charts under

the review of Shri Raichur, it is found that the KP house grouping

rules by DBAS work the same in 45% of events for both NEW KPA or

Larhiri; the New KPA works better in 50% of events especially at the

Sookshma level timing and Lahiri works better in 5% of events. (Here

the difference in the DBAS period is constant to affect only Sookshma

but in the case of 360 d/y, the difference will be increasing to

affect Sookshma to Antara level. The gap between them would become

more divergent with dasa period-- 6.25 days (365.25-360) after 1

year, 31.5 days (6.25x6)after 5 years, about 6 months after 35 years,

a whole year after 70 years; if we are to go with 360 d/y line of

thinking, it would turn out that a native may have to celebrate his

72 birthday even while he has yet to complete his 71st year under

Vimsottari reckoning.)

5. Such kind of research is not to make belive the non-believer who

is not doing himself or herself anything practical but to know the

result for self satisfaction in doing so, for instance it's amazing

to see how Indian charts are different from Western charts in the

research study of 100 AA multi-marriage charts by Kanak Bosmia.

Regards,

tw

, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote:

>

> Hi

> Ayanamsha is one of the toughfest matter which can not be fix the

correctness .

> NCLahiri is popular and KP original is new , but now KP new

ayanamsha also introduced.

> In fact I am following KP orginal ayanamsha and found very

accuracy, but Mr.Tinwin erected my chart and he confirmed KPNA suits

with the past events.

> Please make use of KPNA and try with some charts which may give the

clue of the correctness of ayanamsha.

> Sahhasra Saagara

>

> --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote:

>

> Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha

> Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

>

Pranam

>

> Dear Members,

> The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.

> When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.

> According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than

Lahiri

> Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.

> Good Luck

> Sunaparantha

>

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September 24, 2008

Dear Sirs,

With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it.

I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.

So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.

For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this trouble if we want to be more acurate.

You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.

With due regards.

Dr. Luther

Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaprathna,

I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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September 24, 2008

Regarding how to use JHora, here is the abstract from KP for Beginners- Part 3 : Casting a Horoscope by Computer in KPEZine.

Free J Hora

http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh OR http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/jh

17. A comprehensive ACS atlas and time zone finder is embedded in the full version of this Swiss ephemeris used SW, which is free to download from the above link. Under the `Preferences' window on top of the screen, it is to choose `Calculation', then `Ayanamsa', among them `KP', and then to run the program for the first round calculation after entering the birth details. By looking at the old KPA used by the J Hora, it is adjustable to the New KPA by going back to the `Ayanamsa' option and choosing the `Custom' (user define). For Example Chart 1 (form `KP for Beginners- Part 1', May 15, 1963, 12:05 PM IST, Ahmedabad, 23N02, 72E37), the `lower' difference of 5 sec between NKPA 23:15:20 and OKPA 23:15:15, is to `subtract' from the difference of 5m3s from Lahiri Ayanamsa to get the Custom NKPA 23:15:20. For the Example Chart 2 [from `KP for Beginners- Part 2', Horary no. 105 (1-249), 10:04:48 AM IST, Jan 5, 2008, Ahmedabad (LG Hospital), 23N00, 72E36], the `higher' difference of 26 sec between the OKPA 23:53:09 and NKPA 23:52:43 is to `add' to the difference from Lahiri Ayanamsa, 5m8s. Then it gives as per NKPA. At the bottom of the screen, the `Houses' window gives the KP cusps by pressing first at the left and then right side of the mouse to choose Placidus house system, and then the `KP' window provides the Stl-Sbl-Ssl of the cusps and planets only after getting the KP cusps. To find the Vimshottari sub dasas, it is to go to the `Dasa' window on top of the screen and then to choose 365 d/y option.

18. To cast a Horary chart (1-249), it is first to enter the Horary data, and then to go to `Miscellany' on top of the screen, then Prasana (Horary) on bottom of the screen, after that to enter KP Horary number and to choose the `Prasna lagna derived from no. chosen'. For display it is to use `Basic' window on top and `Key Information' window on bottom of the screen. To get the KP cusps and the Stl-Sbl-Ssl, it is to go to `Houses" and then `KP' windows as explained above. 1 or 4 or 5 year Vimshottari dasa for annual or oath chart can be calculated there but it may not be so easy for KP beginners.

, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote:>> Dear Sundar> Pl. go through Mr.tw's mail appeared today in the group, on the subject.> I am using the latest -Ver 7.02> We will try it with some trial OK.> Good Luck> Sunaparantha> > > > > Sundar Balakrishnan sundar190561 > Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sunaprathna,> > I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.> > > Sundar> > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM> > > Pranam> > Dear Members,> The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.> When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.> According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than Lahiri> Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.> Good Luck> Sunaparantha> > > > > ________________________________> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

September 24, 2008

Dear Members,I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.But according to U it is in vain.If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.I want to know whether it is a good idea.Good Luck SunaparanthaLuther Rath <rathluther Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sirs,

With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it.

I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.

So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.

For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this trouble if we want to be more acurate.

You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.

With due regards.

Dr. Luther

Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>@gro ups.comTuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaprathna,

I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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September 27, 2008

With due RegardsI wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.Sunaparantha----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Members,I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.But according to U it is in vain.If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.I want to know whether it is a good idea.Good Luck Sunaparantha----- Original

Message ----Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comWednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sirs,

With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it.

I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.

So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.

For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this trouble if we want to be more acurate.

You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.

With due regards.

Dr. Luther

Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>@gro ups.comTuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaprathna,

I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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September 28, 2008

it is a good idea > as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.

The same is to calculate from the "TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc , TABLE OF NEW KP AYANAMSA" in File section.

Shri Raichur's SW Demo under "FREEHOR.EXE , FREE SW FOR CASTING CHARTS " in File section gives the NKPA and a basic KP chart.

Abstract from KP for Beginners- Part 3, Casting a Horoscope by Computer (KPEZine)

Hand Calculation of New KP Ayanamsa (2003)

a) Calculation from the Tables

4. Example Chart 1, May 15, 1963: from the Table of New KPA in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', it is 23:15:01 for Jan 1, 1963 plus 18 sec for May 15 from the Adjustment Table for Any Day of the Year, giving 23:15:19 (as per KPAstro 3.0, 23:15:20).

b) Calculation by Formula

5. In the NKPA formula given in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', the base is changed to Jan 1, 1900 to be comparable with the above mentioned NKPA Table for Jan 1 of every year.

NKPA = B + [T* P + (T*T * A)]/ 3600

where,

B = Base = 22 + 1335.7 / 3600 = 22:22:15.7 @ 1 Jan 1900, 0h GMT

T = Y-1900, Y= Calendar year for which ayanamsa is required

P = 50.2388475 (Newcomb's annual precession rate)

A = 0.000111 sec per year (Adjustment rate of the annual precession rate)

For Jan 1, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

= 22:22:15.7 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

= 22:22:15.7 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:15:01.2

For May 15, approximately (75/360) x 50 = 18.7 sec (2m:15d = 75d)

NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:15:01.2 + 18.7 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)

6. By using the original base for April 15, 1900, i.e.

B = Base = 22 + 1350 / 3600 = 22:22:30 @ 15 Apr 1900, 0h GMT

For Apr 15, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

= 22:22:30 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

= 22:22:30 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:13:15.5

For May 15, approximately (30/360) x 50 = 4.2 sec (30d from Apr 15 to May 15)

NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:13:15.5 + 4.2 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)

, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote:>> With due Regards> I wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.> Sunaparantha> > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> Sunaparantha Kalyan sunaparantha > Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Members,> I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.> While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.> That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.> But according to U it is in vain.> If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.> So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.> I want to know whether it is a good idea.> Good Luck > Sunaparantha> > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sirs,> With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it. > I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.> So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.> For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this trouble if we want to be more acurate.> You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.> With due regards.> Dr. Luther> > > > > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sunaprathna,> > I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.> > > Sundar> > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM> > > Pranam> > Dear Members,> The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.> When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.> According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than Lahiri> Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.> Good Luck> Sunaparantha> > > > > ________________________________> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

September 28, 2008

Dear Sunaparantha,

You can of course use the table for NKP, done by Sri. Kanak Bosmia. But does Jagannath Hora 7.2 provides the position of planets and cusps according to this ayanamsa? If it does it is easier for you to go ahead.

If it does not then I think you have to do what I have advised earlier.

Good luck.

Dr. Luther

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:51:10 PMFw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

With due RegardsI wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.Sunaparantha

----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Members,I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.But according to U it is in vain.If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.I want to know whether it is a good idea.Good Luck Sunaparantha

Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comWednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sirs,

With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it.

I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.

So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.

For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this trouble if we want to be more acurate.

You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.

With due regards.

Dr. Luther

Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>@gro ups.comTuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaprathna,

I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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September 29, 2008

Dear twji,

Namasthe.

Will you please tell me how to open file section and the "TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc"?

Thanking you.

Dr. Luther

tw853 <tw853 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:51:03 PMRe: Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

it is a good idea > as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.

The same is to calculate from the "TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc , TABLE OF NEW KP AYANAMSA" in File section.

Shri Raichur's SW Demo under "FREEHOR.EXE , FREE SW FOR CASTING CHARTS " in File section gives the NKPA and a basic KP chart.

Abstract from KP for Beginners- Part 3, Casting a Horoscope by Computer (KPEZine)

Hand Calculation of New KP Ayanamsa (2003)

a) Calculation from the Tables

4. Example Chart 1, May 15, 1963: from the Table of New KPA in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', it is 23:15:01 for Jan 1, 1963 plus 18 sec for May 15 from the Adjustment Table for Any Day of the Year, giving 23:15:19 (as per KPAstro 3.0, 23:15:20).

b) Calculation by Formula

5. In the NKPA formula given in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', the base is changed to Jan 1, 1900 to be comparable with the above mentioned NKPA Table for Jan 1 of every year.

NKPA = B + [T* P + (T*T * A)]/ 3600

where,

B = Base = 22 + 1335.7 / 3600 = 22:22:15.7 @ 1 Jan 1900, 0h GMT

T = Y-1900, Y= Calendar year for which ayanamsa is required

P = 50.2388475 (Newcomb's annual precession rate)

A = 0.000111 sec per year (Adjustment rate of the annual precession rate)

For Jan 1, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

= 22:22:15.7 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

= 22:22:15.7 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:15:01.2

For May 15, approximately (75/360) x 50 = 18.7 sec (2m:15d = 75d)

NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:15:01.2 + 18.7 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)

6. By using the original base for April 15, 1900, i.e.

B = Base = 22 + 1350 / 3600 = 22:22:30 @ 15 Apr 1900, 0h GMT

For Apr 15, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

= 22:22:30 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

= 22:22:30 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:13:15.5

For May 15, approximately (30/360) x 50 = 4.2 sec (30d from Apr 15 to May 15)

NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:13:15.5 + 4.2 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)

@gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote:>> With due Regards> I wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.> Sunaparantha> > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> Sunaparantha Kalyan sunaparantha@ ...> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Members,> I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.> While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.> That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.> But according to U it is in

vain.> If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.> So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.> I want to know whether it is a good idea.> Good Luck > Sunaparantha> > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sirs,> With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it. > I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page

there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.> So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.> For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this

trouble if we want to be more acurate.> You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.> With due regards.> Dr. Luther> > > > > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sunaprathna,> > I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.> > > Sundar> > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM> > > Pranam> > Dear Members,> The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.> When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.> According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than Lahiri> Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.> Good Luck> Sunaparantha> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

September 29, 2008

Dear Guruji tw,Thank U very much fir yr guidence.Sunaparanthatw853 <tw853 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:51:03 PMRe: Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

it is a good idea > as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.

The same is to calculate from the "TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc , TABLE OF NEW KP AYANAMSA" in File section.

Shri Raichur's SW Demo under "FREEHOR.EXE , FREE SW FOR CASTING CHARTS " in File section gives the NKPA and a basic KP chart.

Abstract from KP for Beginners- Part 3, Casting a Horoscope by Computer (KPEZine)

Hand Calculation of New KP Ayanamsa (2003) a) Calculation from the Tables 4. Example Chart 1, May 15, 1963: from the Table of New KPA in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', it is 23:15:01 for Jan 1, 1963 plus 18 sec for May 15 from the Adjustment Table for Any Day of the Year, giving 23:15:19 (as per KPAstro 3.0, 23:15:20).

b) Calculation by Formula 5. In the NKPA formula given in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', the base is changed to Jan 1, 1900 to be comparable with the above mentioned NKPA Table for Jan 1 of every year.

NKPA = B + [T* P + (T*T * A)]/ 3600

where,

B = Base = 22 + 1335.7 / 3600 = 22:22:15.7 @ 1 Jan 1900, 0h GMT

T = Y-1900, Y= Calendar year for which ayanamsa is required

P = 50.2388475 (Newcomb's annual precession rate)

A = 0.000111 sec per year (Adjustment rate of the annual precession rate)

For Jan 1, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

= 22:22:15.7 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

= 22:22:15.7 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:15:01.2

For May 15, approximately (75/360) x 50 = 18.7 sec (2m:15d = 75d)

NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:15:01.2 + 18.7 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)

6. By using the original base for April 15, 1900, i.e.

B = Base = 22 + 1350 / 3600 = 22:22:30 @ 15 Apr 1900, 0h GMT

For Apr 15, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

= 22:22:30 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

= 22:22:30 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:13:15.5

For May 15, approximately (30/360) x 50 = 4.2 sec (30d from Apr 15 to May 15)

NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:13:15.5 + 4.2 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)

@gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote:>> With due Regards> I wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.> Sunaparantha> > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> Sunaparantha Kalyan sunaparantha@ ...> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Members,> I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.> While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.> That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.> But according to U it is in

vain.> If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.> So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.> I want to know whether it is a good idea.> Good Luck > Sunaparantha> > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sirs,> With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it. > I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page

there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.> So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.> For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this

trouble if we want to be more acurate.> You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.> With due regards.> Dr. Luther> > > > > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sunaprathna,> > I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.> > > Sundar> > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM> > > Pranam> > Dear Members,> The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.> When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.> According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than Lahiri> Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.> Good Luck> Sunaparantha> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

September 29, 2008

Dear Dr. Luther,

Pl press " Files " in group pgae.

Then press " " TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc " among all kinds of topics.

Regards,

tw

, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

>

> Dear twji,

> Namasthe.

> Will you please tell me how to open file section and the " TABLE OF

NEW KPA.doc " ?

> Thanking you.

> Dr. Luther

>

> tw853 <tw853

>

> Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:51:03 PM

> Re: Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

> it is a good idea > as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP

table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month

and date.

> The same is to calculate from the " TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc, TABLE OF

NEW KP AYANAMSA " in File section.

>

> Shri Raichur's SW Demo under " FREEHOR.EXE, FREE SW FOR CASTING

CHARTS " in File section gives the NKPA and a basic KP chart.

>

> Abstract from KP for Beginners- Part 3, Casting a Horoscope by

Computer (KPEZine)

>

> Hand Calculation of New KP Ayanamsa (2003)

>

> a) Calculation from the Tables

> 4. Example Chart 1, May 15, 1963: from the Table of New KPA in `KP

for Beginners- Part 1', it is 23:15:01 for Jan 1, 1963 plus 18 sec

for May 15 from the Adjustment Table for Any Day of the Year, giving

23:15:19 (as per KPAstro 3.0, 23:15:20).

>

> b) Calculation by Formula

>

> 5. In the NKPA formula given in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', the

base is changed to Jan 1, 1900 to be comparable with the above

mentioned NKPA Table for Jan 1 of every year.

>

> NKPA = B + [T* P + (T*T * A)]/ 3600

> where,

> B = Base = 22 + 1335.7 / 3600 = 22:22:15.7 @ 1 Jan 1900, 0h GMT

> T = Y-1900, Y= Calendar year for which ayanamsa is required

> P = 50.2388475 (Newcomb's annual precession rate)

> A = 0.000111 sec per year (Adjustment rate of the annual precession

rate)

>

> For Jan 1, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

> = 22:22:15.7 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

> = 22:22:15.7 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:15:01.2

> For May 15, approximately (75/360) x 50 = 18.7 sec (2m:15d =

75d)

> NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:15:01..2 + 18.7 = 23:15:20 (same as per

KPAstro 3.0)

>

> 6. By using the original base for April 15, 1900, i.e.

> B = Base = 22 + 1350 / 3600 = 22:22:30 @ 15 Apr 1900, 0h GMT

>

> For Apr 15, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

> = 22:22:30 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

> = 22:22:30 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:13:15.5

> For May 15, approximately (30/360) x 50 = 4.2 sec (30d from Apr

15 to May 15)

> NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:13:15.5 + 4.2 = 23:15:20 (same as per

KPAstro 3.0)

>

> @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan

<sunaparantha@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > With due Regards

> > I wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response

from the Praveenas.

> > Sunaparantha

> >

> > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > Sunaparantha Kalyan sunaparantha@ ...

> > @gro ups.com

> > Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PM

> > Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

> >

> > Dear Members,

> > I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my

quarry on the above.

> > While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if

we have to calculate a part of therein.

> > That's why I raised the question to include the difference of

Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.

> > But according to U it is in vain.

> > If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate

each and every BT.

> > So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by

Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date..

> > I want to know whether it is a good idea.

> > Good Luck

> > Sunaparantha

> >

> > Luther Rath rathluther >

> > @gro ups.com

> > Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AM

> > Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

> >

> > Dear Sirs,

> > With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out

some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I

could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel

let me not have it.

> > I have another SW where in the default data is according to

Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant

and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are

positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa

(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages

differs to a considerable degree.

> > So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for

the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in

the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the

position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets

for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the

Ascendant.

> > For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I

mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and

the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the

cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I

get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this

trouble if we want to be more acurate.

> > You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the

rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not

serve the purpose.

> > With due regards.

> > Dr. Luther

> >

> > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>

> > @gro ups.com

> > Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AM

> > Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

> >

> > Dear Sunaprathna,

> >

> > I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If

yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP

ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

> >

> > Sundar

> >

> > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@

> wrote:

> >

> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >

> > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

> > @gro ups.com

> > Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

> >

> > Pranam

> >

> > Dear Members,

> > The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP

studies.

> > When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.

> > According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than

Lahiri

> > Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.

> > Good Luck

> > Sunaparantha

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

> >

>

September 29, 2008

Dear Dr.Luther,I also had face to the same problem, as U are now.here is the reply, i received from the forum.Follow it and be happy."You are correct. Just click on the 'Files' hyperlink and it will

take you to the file section. You will see various files and folders

there. Here is the direct URL for the file section -"

http://groups. / group/k_p_ system

Good LuckSunaparanthaLuther Rath <rathluther Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:28:53 AMRe: Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear twji,

Namasthe.

Will you please tell me how to open file section and the "TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc"?

Thanking you.

Dr. Luther

tw853 <tw853 >@gro ups.comSunday, September 28, 2008 5:51:03 PMRe: Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

it is a good idea > as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.

The same is to calculate from the "TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc , TABLE OF NEW KP AYANAMSA" in File section.

Shri Raichur's SW Demo under "FREEHOR.EXE , FREE SW FOR CASTING CHARTS " in File section gives the NKPA and a basic KP chart.

Abstract from KP for Beginners- Part 3, Casting a Horoscope by Computer (KPEZine)

Hand Calculation of New KP Ayanamsa (2003)

a) Calculation from the Tables

4. Example Chart 1, May 15, 1963: from the Table of New KPA in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', it is 23:15:01 for Jan 1, 1963 plus 18 sec for May 15 from the Adjustment Table for Any Day of the Year, giving 23:15:19 (as per KPAstro 3.0, 23:15:20).

b) Calculation by Formula

5. In the NKPA formula given in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', the base is changed to Jan 1, 1900 to be comparable with the above mentioned NKPA Table for Jan 1 of every year.

NKPA = B + [T* P + (T*T * A)]/ 3600

where,

B = Base = 22 + 1335.7 / 3600 = 22:22:15.7 @ 1 Jan 1900, 0h GMT

T = Y-1900, Y= Calendar year for which ayanamsa is required

P = 50.2388475 (Newcomb's annual precession rate)

A = 0.000111 sec per year (Adjustment rate of the annual precession rate)

For Jan 1, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

= 22:22:15.7 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

= 22:22:15.7 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:15:01.2

For May 15, approximately (75/360) x 50 = 18.7 sec (2m:15d = 75d)

NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:15:01.2 + 18.7 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)

6. By using the original base for April 15, 1900, i.e.

B = Base = 22 + 1350 / 3600 = 22:22:30 @ 15 Apr 1900, 0h GMT

For Apr 15, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

= 22:22:30 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

= 22:22:30 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:13:15.5

For May 15, approximately (30/360) x 50 = 4.2 sec (30d from Apr 15 to May 15)

NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:13:15.5 + 4.2 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)

@gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote:>> With due Regards> I wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.> Sunaparantha> > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> Sunaparantha Kalyan sunaparantha@ ...> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Members,> I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.> While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.> That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.> But according to

U it is in

vain.> If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.> So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.> I want to know whether it is a good idea.> Good Luck > Sunaparantha> > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sirs,> With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it. > I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page

there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.> So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.> For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this

trouble if we want to be more acurate.> You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.> With due regards.> Dr. Luther> > > > > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sunaprathna,> > I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.> > > Sundar> > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM> > > Pranam> > Dear Members,> The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.> When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.> According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than Lahiri> Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.> Good Luck> Sunaparantha> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

September 29, 2008

Dear Dr.Luther,Thank U for yr guidance.I cannot understand what u have say."But does Jagannath Hora 7.2 provides the position of planets and cusps according to this ayanamsa?"(If Kanak Bosmia's KPNA is Ok and tallied with the KP introduced NKPA, there won't be any difference according to me.)How do I see whether it is according to this Ayanamsa wthout a comparison with another correct one.Can U pl. guide me.Good LuckSunaparanthaLuther Rath <rathluther Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:12:46 PMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaparantha,

You can of course use the table for NKP, done by Sri. Kanak Bosmia. But does Jagannath Hora 7.2 provides the position of planets and cusps according to this ayanamsa? If it does it is easier for you to go ahead.

If it does not then I think you have to do what I have advised earlier.

Good luck.

Dr. Luther

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comSaturday, September 27, 2008 9:51:10 PMFw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

With due RegardsI wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.Sunaparantha

----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Members,I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.But according to U it is in vain.If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.I want to know whether it is a good idea.Good Luck Sunaparantha

Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comWednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sirs,

With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it.

I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.

So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.

For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this trouble if we want to be more acurate.

You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.

With due regards.

Dr. Luther

Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>@gro ups.comTuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaprathna,

I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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September 30, 2008

Dear Sunaparantha,

Good evening.

Please calculate the NKPA basing on formulae available. Then check if this value is deducted from the Sayana position of planets and cusps. You can find the Sayana positions from almanacs or in internet websites.

Dr. Luther

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:07:21 PMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Dr.Luther,Thank U for yr guidance.I cannot understand what u have say.

"But does Jagannath Hora 7.2 provides the position of planets and cusps according to this ayanamsa?"(If Kanak Bosmia's KPNA is Ok and tallied with the KP introduced NKPA, there won't be any difference according to me.)How do I see whether it is according to this Ayanamsa wthout a comparison with another correct one.Can U pl. guide me.Good LuckSunaparantha

Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comSunday, September 28, 2008 6:12:46 PMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaparantha,

You can of course use the table for NKP, done by Sri. Kanak Bosmia. But does Jagannath Hora 7.2 provides the position of planets and cusps according to this ayanamsa? If it does it is easier for you to go ahead.

If it does not then I think you have to do what I have advised earlier.

Good luck.

Dr. Luther

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comSaturday, September 27, 2008 9:51:10 PMFw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

With due RegardsI wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.Sunaparantha

----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Members,I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.But according to U it is in vain.If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.I want to know whether it is a good idea.Good Luck Sunaparantha

Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comWednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sirs,

With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it.

I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.

So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.

For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this trouble if we want to be more acurate.

You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.

With due regards.

Dr. Luther

Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>@gro ups.comTuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaprathna,

I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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September 30, 2008

Thank you Sir for your guidance. I shall try accordingly.

Dr. Luther

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:44:19 PMRe: Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Dr.Luther,I also had face to the same problem, as U are now.here is the reply, i received from the forum.Follow it and be happy."You are correct. Just click on the 'Files' hyperlink and it will take you to the file section. You will see various files and folders there. Here is the direct URL for the file section -"

http://groups. / group/k_p_ system

Good LuckSunaparantha

Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comMonday, September 29, 2008 11:28:53 AMRe: Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear twji,

Namasthe.

Will you please tell me how to open file section and the "TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc"?

Thanking you.

Dr. Luther

tw853 <tw853 >@gro ups.comSunday, September 28, 2008 5:51:03 PMRe: Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

it is a good idea > as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.

The same is to calculate from the "TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc , TABLE OF NEW KP AYANAMSA" in File section.

Shri Raichur's SW Demo under "FREEHOR.EXE , FREE SW FOR CASTING CHARTS " in File section gives the NKPA and a basic KP chart.

Abstract from KP for Beginners- Part 3, Casting a Horoscope by Computer (KPEZine)

Hand Calculation of New KP Ayanamsa (2003)

a) Calculation from the Tables

4. Example Chart 1, May 15, 1963: from the Table of New KPA in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', it is 23:15:01 for Jan 1, 1963 plus 18 sec for May 15 from the Adjustment Table for Any Day of the Year, giving 23:15:19 (as per KPAstro 3.0, 23:15:20).

b) Calculation by Formula

5. In the NKPA formula given in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', the base is changed to Jan 1, 1900 to be comparable with the above mentioned NKPA Table for Jan 1 of every year.

NKPA = B + [T* P + (T*T * A)]/ 3600

where,

B = Base = 22 + 1335.7 / 3600 = 22:22:15.7 @ 1 Jan 1900, 0h GMT

T = Y-1900, Y= Calendar year for which ayanamsa is required

P = 50.2388475 (Newcomb's annual precession rate)

A = 0.000111 sec per year (Adjustment rate of the annual precession rate)

For Jan 1, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

= 22:22:15.7 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

= 22:22:15.7 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:15:01.2

For May 15, approximately (75/360) x 50 = 18.7 sec (2m:15d = 75d)

NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:15:01.2 + 18.7 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)

6. By using the original base for April 15, 1900, i.e.

B = Base = 22 + 1350 / 3600 = 22:22:30 @ 15 Apr 1900, 0h GMT

For Apr 15, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is

= 22:22:30 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)]

= 22:22:30 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:13:15.5

For May 15, approximately (30/360) x 50 = 4.2 sec (30d from Apr 15 to May 15)

NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:13:15.5 + 4.2 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)

@gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote:>> With due Regards> I wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.> Sunaparantha> > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> Sunaparantha Kalyan sunaparantha@ ...> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Members,> I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.> While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.> That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.> But according to U

it is in vain.> If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.> So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.> I want to know whether it is a good idea.> Good Luck > Sunaparantha> > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sirs,> With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it. > I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one

page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.> So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.> For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take

this trouble if we want to be more acurate.> You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.> With due regards.> Dr. Luther> > > > > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sunaprathna,> > I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.> > > Sundar> > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM> > > Pranam> > Dear Members,> The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.> When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.> According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than Lahiri> Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.> Good Luck> Sunaparantha> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

September 30, 2008

Dear tw Sir,

Thank you so much for showing the way.

Dr. Luther

tw853 <tw853 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:18:17 PMRe: Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Dr. Luther,Pl press "Files" in group pgae.Then press ""TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc" among all kinds of topics. Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear twji,> Namasthe.> Will you please tell me how to open file section and the "TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc"?> Thanking you.> Dr. Luther> > > > > tw853 <tw853> @gro ups.com> Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:51:03 PM> Re: Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > it is a

good idea > as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.> The same is to calculate from the "TABLE OF NEW KPA.doc, TABLE OF NEW KP AYANAMSA" in File section.> > Shri Raichur's SW Demo under "FREEHOR.EXE, FREE SW FOR CASTING CHARTS " in File section gives the NKPA and a basic KP chart.> > > > Abstract from KP for Beginners- Part 3, Casting a Horoscope by Computer (KPEZine)> > Hand Calculation of New KP Ayanamsa (2003)> > a) Calculation from the Tables> 4. Example Chart 1, May 15, 1963: from the Table of New KPA in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', it is 23:15:01 for Jan 1, 1963 plus 18 sec for May 15 from the Adjustment Table for Any Day of the Year, giving 23:15:19 (as per KPAstro 3.0, 23:15:20). >

> b) Calculation by Formula> > 5. In the NKPA formula given in `KP for Beginners- Part 1', the base is changed to Jan 1, 1900 to be comparable with the above mentioned NKPA Table for Jan 1 of every year.> > NKPA = B + [T* P + (T*T * A)]/ 3600> where,> B = Base = 22 + 1335.7 / 3600 = 22:22:15.7 @ 1 Jan 1900, 0h GMT> T = Y-1900, Y= Calendar year for which ayanamsa is required> P = 50.2388475 (Newcomb's annual precession rate)> A = 0.000111 sec per year (Adjustment rate of the annual precession rate)> > For Jan 1, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is > = 22:22:15.7 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)] > = 22:22:15.7 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:15:01.2 > For May 15, approximately (75/360) x 50 = 18.7 sec (2m:15d = 75d)> NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:15:01..2 + 18.7 =

23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)> > 6. By using the original base for April 15, 1900, i.e.> B = Base = 22 + 1350 / 3600 = 22:22:30 @ 15 Apr 1900, 0h GMT> > For Apr 15, 1963 of Example Chart 1, the NKPA is > = 22:22:30 + [63 x 50.2388475 + (63 x 63 x 0.000111)] > = 22:22:30 + 00:52:45.5 = 23:13:15.5 > For May 15, approximately (30/360) x 50 = 4.2 sec (30d from Apr 15 to May 15) > NKPA for May 15, 1963 = 23:13:15.5 + 4.2 = 23:15:20 (same as per KPAstro 3.0)> > > @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote:> >> > With due Regards> > I wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.> > Sunaparantha> > > > > > > >

> > ----- Forwarded Message ----> > Sunaparantha Kalyan sunaparantha@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PM> > Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > > > > Dear Members,> > I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.> > While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.> > That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.> > But according to U it is in vain.> > If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.> > So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and

date..> > I want to know whether it is a good idea.> > Good Luck > > Sunaparantha> > > > > > > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AM> > Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > > > > Dear Sirs,> > With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it. > > I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of

Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.> > So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.> > For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this trouble if we want to be more acurate.> > You may study

your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.> > With due regards.> > Dr. Luther> > > > > > > > > > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AM> > Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > > > > Dear Sunaprathna,> > > > I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.> > > > > > Sundar> > > > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan

<sunaparantha@ > wrote:> > > > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > @gro ups.com> > Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM> > > > > > Pranam> > > > Dear Members,> > The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.> > When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.> > According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than Lahiri> > Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.> > Good Luck> > Sunaparantha> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it

now> >>

October 2, 2008

Dear Sunaparantha,

Good morning.

I compared my calculated NKPA with that provided in the file section. There is a difference of 7 seconds. It ofcourse maters little. The difference could be because I calculate 366 days for every leap year and instead of 30 days/month I consider 31+28+31+30+31+30+31+31+30+31+30+31 from January to December. This might contribute to certain proportion of the difference. You need not bother for this a continue using the ready reckoner table for convenience.

Best wishes.

Dr. Luther

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:51:10 PMFw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

With due RegardsI wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.Sunaparantha

----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Members,I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.But according to U it is in vain.If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.I want to know whether it is a good idea.Good Luck Sunaparantha

Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comWednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sirs,

With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it.

I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.

So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.

For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this trouble if we want to be more acurate.

You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.

With due regards.

Dr. Luther

Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>@gro ups.comTuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AMRe: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa

Dear Sunaprathna,

I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.

Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM

PranamDear Members,The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than LahiriCan any member verify the correctness of this pl.Good LuckSunaparantha

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October 2, 2008

If so is the difference, yours isn't New KPA. Pl check with the New KPA formula already provided in a recent posting and A REVIEW OF KP AYANAMSAS.doc in File section.

Pl note the ayanmsa values that provided in the file section are the New KPA calculated by KPAstro 3.0 as per the formula provided in KP & Astrology Year Book 2003.

, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:>> Dear Sunaparantha,> Good morning.> I compared my calculated NKPA with that provided in the file section. There is a difference of 7 seconds. It ofcourse maters little. The difference could be because I calculate 366 days for every leap year and instead of 30 days/month I consider 31+28+31+30+31+30+31+31+30+31+30+31 from January to December. This might contribute to certain proportion of the difference. You need not bother for this a continue using the ready reckoner table for convenience.> Best wishes.> Dr. Luther> > > > > Sunaparantha Kalyan sunaparantha > Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:51:10 PM> Fw: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > With due Regards> I wish to forward my request again as below, hoping any response from the Praveenas.> Sunaparantha> > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:14:30 PM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Members,> I wish to convey my sincere thanks to all, who responded my quarry on the above.> While using SW for any purpose, it will be another headache, if we have to calculate a part of therein.> That's why I raised the question to include the difference of Ayanamsa to the SW for easy output.> But according to U it is in vain.> If I honorarily say, I am not a good mathematician to calculate each and every BT.> So as a ready ready reckoner I hope to use NKP table publised by Kanak Bosmia, which shows Ayanamsa for Year, Month and date.> I want to know whether it is a good idea.> Good Luck > Sunaparantha> > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:50:52 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sirs,> With due apology, for interveining, I would like to point out some problem we face while using any SW. Inspite of many attempts I could not acquire a copy of Jagannath Hora, version 7.2. Now I feel let me not have it. > I have another SW where in the default data is according to Lahiri ayanamsa. In one page there are the positions of the Ascendant and the planets according to Lahiri ayanamsa and in another there are positions of Ascendant and other cusps according to KP ayanamsa(according to the SW). The position of Ascendant in the 2 pages differs to a considerable degree.> So what I do is that first I calculate the KP ayanamsa New.for the particular date. Then find out the Lahiri ayanamsa provided in the SW. Then I find out the difference. I add difference to the position of the planets and thus I fix the position of the planets for KP ayanamsa New. I also find in the asme way the position of the Ascendant.> For the cusps I take in to consideration of the second page as I mentioned. I find the difference between the Ascendant arrived at and the Ascendant provided in the seond page.I add this difference to the cuspal positions given in the second page for all the cusps. Thus I get the cuspal positions for KP Newayanamsa. We have to take this trouble if we want to be more acurate.> You may study your SW and modify my way of doing the rectification as per necessity. Simply deducting 6 minutes will not serve the purpose.> With due regards.> Dr. Luther> > > > > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:01:22 AM> Re: Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> > > Dear Sunaprathna,> > I also use Jagannath Hora. Are you using latest version 7.2?. If yes, you can less 6 minutes from Lahiri ayanamsha. If you use, KP ayanamsha from the software it is not correct.> > > Sundar> > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> Differance of KP & Lahiri Ayanamsa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 9:10 PM> > > Pranam> > Dear Members,> The SW I am using is Sri Jagannath Hora ver 7.02, for my KP studies.> When we change Ayanamsa to KP, it is 0 - 6 - 5.4 less than Lahiri.> According to NPK Ayanamsa it seems to be 0 - 5 - 7.57 less than Lahiri> Can any member verify the correctness of this pl.> Good Luck> Sunaparantha> > > > > ________________________________> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

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