Marriage analysis in KP - Request

September 22, 2008

Dear Raichur Ji, TW Ji, Sathish Ji, L Y Rao Ji, Punit Ji, MK Ji and other interested members,I request you to analyse my horoscope to find when will I marry.My birth details areD.O.B : 13th August 1976P.O.B : Coimbatore, TamilnaduT.O.B : 8:49:40 AMHere is my attempt.Classic KP Method:Q: Is marriage promised per natal chart?Rule: If 7th CSL signifies 2 or 7 or 11, marriage is promisedK.P Four-fold significators===========================================================Sub's star|Sublord| Cusp | A | B | C | D=========================================================== | | 2 | Ra | Ra | Me,Ke | Ve=========================================================== Sa | Sa | 7 | -- | -- | -- | Ju=========================================================== | | 11 | Ma,Ju | | | | | | Mo,Sa | Su,Sa | -- | Mo===========================================================Analysis: 7th cuspal sublord Sa which is in his own star.Both Sublord and its star lord signifies 11 (i.e saturn is A grade significator for house 11)Planets that signifies 2 or 7 or 11 are Su(B),Mo(A),Ma(A),Ra(A),Ju(A),Sa(A),Me©,Ke©,Ve(D). All 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11. 6 planets are either A or B grade significators and rest are C or D grade significators.12 to concerned house are not favorable. 12 to 7th cusp is 6 from Asc. However, I would not consider 2nd cusp in this regard, So planets signifying 12,6 are as follows6th ==> Mo(B & C), Sa©Here Sa is not strongly negating. i.e Sa signifies 11 as A & B grade compared to C grade signification to 6So, Marriage is promised.Ok. Till now it is no big deal... Marriage Timing??Ruling Planets at time of judgement:Casting Date and Time: Sunday 21 September 2008 03:56:37 PMPlace of Casting: Mars, Pennysylvania, USA (80:0:42 W, 40:41:45 N) Place is near to pittsburghLagna: Ju Ve (SgL StL)Moon: Me Ma (SgL StL)Day Lord is: SuNo Planets in Star of Retrograde PlanetsNo Planets in Sub of Retrograde PlanetsRahu Agent For: Mo Sa Ketu Agent For: Mo Me As Me is in RP, Ke acts as an agent for Me.So effective RP's are Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,KeCommon planets in significator table and RP:All planets in RPs are significators of 2 or 7 or 11 (coz all the 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11)Fruitful significators: 1) Using RPs : Ju,Ve, Me, Ma, Su, Ke2) selecting the significators which are in the stars of the cusp sub lord of the concerned houses : Mo (Mo is deposited in 7th and 11th CSL Sa), Sa (Sa is deposited in own star which is 5th, 7th and 11th CSL)3) selecting the significators whose sub lords are one of the significators: Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (as all 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11, I have taken sublords of all planets)Summation : Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke (As per RP) : Mo & Sa (As per 2nd method) : Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (As per 3rd method)Negative Significators: 6th house significators ==> Mo(B & C), Sa©. Here Mo is very close to 7th cusp i.e less than 1.5 degrees. Also Mo is in Star and Sublord of 7th CSL. So Mo very well signifies 7th cusp and it is in star of Sa which strongly signifies 11th cusp. So, I would like to reject Mo as strong negator to 7th. Sa also I would like to reject as it is strong significator of 11th house & cuspEffective Fruitful Significators: Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke (as per RP), Sa (as strong significator of 11) & Ra (as per 3rd method and also A significator of 2nd house). Only Mo is left out.Q: When will marriage fructify?Timing Event:Year: Ju is in Ve & Su star till 21st Jan 2009. After that Mo star which we are not considering.Month: Su will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through the way as all 8 planets are fruitful significatorsDay : Mo will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through the way as all 8 planets are fruitful significatorsD.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - No Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (I believe this is most effective as Ma is Yogi planet and it is in 11th in navamsa. Pardon me to deviate from KP rules. Just that I want to use all systems to fortify my prognosis. I'm fond of Sheshadri Iyer's divisional chart reading method. Iyer and Guruji KSK were contemporaries and both were of same philosophy on star lord's role in astrology until KSK invented sub lord theory) Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - YesConclusion: There is a chance to get marry every day 4 Step Theory:Planet: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) It's SUB LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) SUB's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }Effectively Ke : 12,2,9Planet: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) It's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) Effectively Ve : 8,12,2,9Planet: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 It's STAR LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 Effectively Su : 12,1,10,8,9,4,7,11Planet: Moo Occ: 6[P] Owns: 11 (Conj: 7 )It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 It's SUB LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 SUB's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 Effectively Mo : 6,11,7,5Planet: Mar Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 It's SUB LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }SUB's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }Effectively Ma : 6,11,7,5Planet: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }It's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) Effectively Ra : 2,12,2,9Planet: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) Effectively Ju : 8,9,4,7,11,12,2Planet: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 Effectively Sa : 11,5,6,8,9,4,7,12Planet: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 Effectively Me : 12,2,9,8,9,4,7,11Q: Is marriage promised?A: 7th CSL Sa signifies 11,5 in 1st & 2nd step and 11th in 4th step and hence marriage is promised.Planets signification pertaining to 2,7,11. We leave -ve house signification in 4 stepKe => 2Ve => 2Su => 7,11Mo => 7,11Ma => 7,11Ra => 2Ju => 7,11Sa => 7,11Me => 2,7,11Again all 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11.Q: When will marriage fructify?Rule: The event will fructify only when the DBA lords are jointly the primary significators of all the required houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage), signifying at least one different house each by DBA. Timing Event:D.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Mo-7,11) Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Ma-7,11) Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Ra-2)Conclusion: Again, There is a chance to get marry every day Request: Although the classic KP method and 4 step suggests that chances to get marry is almost every day in reality this is not happening. Marriage has not happened till now coz I my brother marriage was delayed one and it just happened in July 2008. Also I have punarphoo and it cannot delay further from here as I have crossed 32 year mark. I request members to analyse my approach of the methods discussed above and guide me if I have made any mistake. Secondly and more importantly, can you provide me likely dates for marriage? In my humble opinion, horary comes to rescue in these cases, I believe. I'm not an expert in any system and Horary is never my cup of tea. I request the seniors to help me in this.Here is my question: When will I marry?Horary Number : 31I would like to know the following1) When will I marry?2) May I know her characteristics?3) Will she be working and in that case what could be her field of profession?Here are some of my details just in case if you want to verifyPhysical Appearence: Looks young than age. I attribute this to Me who is sublord of Asc. Many say I look like 26-27 although I'm 32 now. Affected by residual polio paralysis (left leg, very mild) when I was 2 year old but can do things everyday activity normally and can drive 2 wheeler and 4 wheeler very well. On a lighter note, I drive 4 wheeler like Michael Schumaker and so my friends call me Mysore Schumaker (when I was in Mysore, Karnataka)Education: B.E Mechanical Engineer (1993-1997), M.E Engineering Design(1997-1999)Occupation: Mechanical Engineer (2000-2001) Software Engineer (2001 - till date) Thanks for reading such a long story of mine.Regards,K.BabuNotes:1) I have used Jothish Deepika for casting chart with KP New Ayanamsa2) 6,8,12th houses are unfavorable to house in question. Hence 6th, 12th and 2th house from Asc are unfavorable. However 2nd house cannot be considered as unfavorable as 2nd house itself is one of supporting house for mariage. 8th house to 7th house can cause obstacles but cannot deny. So only 12th house to 7th house can deny marriage i.e 6th house signification is detrimental to marriage. Thatz why I have used only 6th house for negation in above analysis. I could be wrong in this. I request learned scholars to guide me.3) I have referred TW Ji's article "Differences between KP and Four Step Method by Tin Win in ASTROVISION, July 2008" from files section. I cannot express in words how much this kind of summary articles have been helpful. KP community is greatly indebted to TW Ji for his compilation and analysis.4) Thanks to Gondalekar Ji for his 4 step contribution5) Birth Time is verified by MK's rule. Thanks to MK Ji for sharing this rule.

September 22, 2008

#31 Bangalore 4.30 PMMoon in 5th, matter related to family (progeny effectively - procreate) and connected to 2nd, 7th and 11th.7th Cuspal Sublord is Rahu, with its Starlord Moon and Sublord Venus.Current Strong RP's Mars and Venus.Marriage is promised and favourable period is from March 17th, 2009 to October 10th, 2009.Since Mars is strong along with Venus, I prefer Venus as it is in transit with 5th house now.Hence the possible time to fix/engage - Mar 17th to April 10th, 2009.The marriage would happen in a convenient time before October 10th, 2009.//Where does the bride come from & How does she look?No love marriage.

From a known family. Proper age difference.Probably a working wife. Will travel abroad together short term on work.//Cross Check, based on your birth data @ Coimbatore 11 N 77 EBetween 21st Mar to 1st Sept 2009 - with a high possibility during - June 12th to July 4thAlso 7th sublord is Venus connected to Lagna's Sublord shows about Astrological knowledge!Good Luck! Amma Saranam!RegardsRameshhttp://www.amma.orgbabukrcbe <babukrcbe Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2008 8:43:11 AM Marriage analysis in KP - Request

Dear Raichur Ji, TW Ji, Sathish Ji, L Y Rao Ji, Punit Ji, MK Ji and other interested members,I request you to analyse my horoscope to find when will I marry.My birth details areD.O.B : 13th August 1976P.O.B : Coimbatore, TamilnaduT.O.B : 8:49:40 AMHere is my attempt.Classic KP Method:Q: Is marriage promised per natal chart?Rule: If 7th CSL signifies 2 or 7 or 11, marriage is promisedK.P Four-fold significators============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ==Sub's star|Sublord| Cusp | A | B |

C | D============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= == | | 2 | Ra | Ra | Me,Ke | Ve============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= == Sa | Sa | 7 | -- | -- | -- | Ju============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =========

== | | 11 | Ma,Ju | | | | | | Mo,Sa | Su,Sa | -- | Mo============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ==Analysis: 7th cuspal sublord Sa which is in his own star.Both Sublord and its star lord signifies 11 (i.e saturn is A grade significator for house 11)Planets that signifies 2 or 7

or 11 are Su(B),Mo(A), Ma(A),Ra( A),Ju(A), Sa(A),Me( C),Ke©, Ve(D). All 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11. 6 planets are either A or B grade significators and rest are C or D grade significators.12 to concerned house are not favorable. 12 to 7th cusp is 6 from Asc. However, I would not consider 2nd cusp in this regard, So planets signifying 12,6 are as follows6th ==> Mo(B & C), Sa©Here Sa is not strongly negating. i.e Sa signifies 11 as A & B grade compared to C grade signification to 6So, Marriage is promised.Ok. Till now it is no big deal... Marriage Timing??Ruling Planets at time of judgement:Casting Date and Time: Sunday 21 September 2008 03:56:37 PMPlace of Casting: Mars, Pennysylvania, USA (80:0:42 W, 40:41:45 N)

Place is near to pittsburghLagna: Ju Ve (SgL StL)Moon: Me Ma (SgL StL)Day Lord is: SuNo Planets in Star of Retrograde PlanetsNo Planets in Sub of Retrograde PlanetsRahu Agent For: Mo Sa Ketu Agent For: Mo Me As Me is in RP, Ke acts as an agent for Me.So effective RP's are Ju,Ve,Me,Ma, Su,KeCommon planets in significator table and RP:All planets in RPs are significators of 2 or 7 or 11 (coz all the 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11)Fruitful significators: 1) Using RPs : Ju,Ve, Me, Ma, Su, Ke2) selecting the significators which are in the stars of the cusp sub lord of the concerned houses : Mo (Mo is deposited in 7th and 11th CSL Sa), Sa (Sa is deposited in

own star which is 5th, 7th and 11th CSL)3) selecting the significators whose sub lords are one of the significators: Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (as all 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11, I have taken sublords of all planets)Summation : Ju,Ve,Me,Ma, Su,Ke (As per RP) : Mo & Sa (As per 2nd method) : Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (As per 3rd method)Negative Significators: 6th house significators ==> Mo(B & C), Sa©. Here Mo is very close to 7th cusp i.e less than 1.5 degrees. Also Mo is in Star and Sublord of 7th CSL. So Mo very well signifies 7th cusp and it is in star of Sa which strongly signifies 11th cusp. So, I would like to reject Mo as strong negator to 7th. Sa also I would like to reject as it is strong significator of 11th house & cuspEffective Fruitful Significators: Ju,Ve,Me,Ma, Su,Ke (as per RP), Sa (as strong significator of

11) & Ra (as per 3rd method and also A significator of 2nd house). Only Mo is left out.Q: When will marriage fructify?Timing Event:Year: Ju is in Ve & Su star till 21st Jan 2009. After that Mo star which we are not considering.Month: Su will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through the way as all 8 planets are fruitful significatorsDay : Mo will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through the way as all 8 planets are fruitful significatorsD.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - No Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (I believe this is most effective as Ma is Yogi planet and it is in 11th in navamsa. Pardon me to deviate from KP rules. Just that I want to use all systems to fortify my prognosis. I'm fond of Sheshadri Iyer's

divisional chart reading method. Iyer and Guruji KSK were contemporaries and both were of same philosophy on star lord's role in astrology until KSK invented sub lord theory) Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - YesConclusion: There is a chance to get marry every day 4 Step Theory:Planet: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) It's SUB LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) SUB's STAR LORD:

Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }Effectively Ke : 12,2,9Planet: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) It's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) Effectively Ve : 8,12,2,9Planet: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 It's STAR LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 Effectively Su : 12,1,10,8,9, 4,7,11Planet: Moo Occ: 6[P] Owns: 11 (Conj: 7 )It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ:

11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 It's SUB LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 SUB's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 Effectively Mo : 6,11,7,5Planet: Mar Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 It's SUB LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }SUB's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }Effectively Ma : 6,11,7,5Planet: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }It's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp..By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) SUB's STAR LORD:

Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) Effectively Ra : 2,12,2,9Planet: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) Effectively Ju : 8,9,4,7,11,12, 2Planet: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 Effectively Sa : 11,5,6,8,9,4, 7,12Planet: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ:

11 Owns: 12 Effectively Me : 12,2,9,8,9,4, 7,11Q: Is marriage promised?A: 7th CSL Sa signifies 11,5 in 1st & 2nd step and 11th in 4th step and hence marriage is promised..Planets signification pertaining to 2,7,11. We leave -ve house signification in 4 stepKe => 2Ve => 2Su => 7,11Mo => 7,11Ma => 7,11Ra => 2Ju => 7,11Sa => 7,11Me => 2,7,11Again all 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11.Q: When will marriage fructify?Rule: The event will fructify only when the DBA lords are jointly the primary significators of all the required houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage), signifying at least one different house each by DBA. Timing Event:D.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct

2008) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Mo-7,11) Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Ma-7,11) Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Ra-2)Conclusion: Again, There is a chance to get marry every day Request: Although the classic KP method and 4 step suggests that chances to get marry is almost every day in reality this is not happening. Marriage has not happened

till now coz I my brother marriage was delayed one and it just happened in July 2008. Also I have punarphoo and it cannot delay further from here as I have crossed 32 year mark. I request members to analyse my approach of the methods discussed above and guide me if I have made any mistake. Secondly and more importantly, can you provide me likely dates for marriage? In my humble opinion, horary comes to rescue in these cases, I believe. I'm not an expert in any system and Horary is never my cup of tea. I request the seniors to help me in this.Here is my question: When will I marry?Horary Number : 31I would like to know the following1) When will I marry?2) May I know her characteristics?3) Will she be working and in that case what could be her field of profession?Here are some of my

details just in case if you want to verifyPhysical Appearence: Looks young than age. I attribute this to Me who is sublord of Asc. Many say I look like 26-27 although I'm 32 now. Affected by residual polio paralysis (left leg, very mild) when I was 2 year old but can do things everyday activity normally and can drive 2 wheeler and 4 wheeler very well. On a lighter note, I drive 4 wheeler like Michael Schumaker and so my friends call me Mysore Schumaker (when I was in Mysore, Karnataka)Education: B.E Mechanical Engineer (1993-1997), M.E Engineering Design(1997- 1999)Occupation: Mechanical Engineer (2000-2001) Software Engineer (2001 - till date) Thanks for reading such a long story of

mine.Regards,K.BabuNotes:1) I have used Jothish Deepika for casting chart with KP New Ayanamsa2) 6,8,12th houses are unfavorable to house in question. Hence 6th, 12th and 2th house from Asc are unfavorable. However 2nd house cannot be considered as unfavorable as 2nd house itself is one of supporting house for mariage. 8th house to 7th house can cause obstacles but cannot deny. So only 12th house to 7th house can deny marriage i.e 6th house signification is detrimental to marriage. Thatz why I have used only 6th house for negation in above analysis. I could be wrong in this. I request learned scholars to guide me.3) I have referred TW Ji's article "Differences between KP and Four Step Method by Tin Win in ASTROVISION, July 2008" from files section. I cannot express in words how much this kind of summary articles have been helpful. KP community

is greatly indebted to TW Ji for his compilation and analysis.4) Thanks to Gondalekar Ji for his 4 step contribution5) Birth Time is verified by MK's rule. Thanks to MK Ji for sharing this rule.

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September 22, 2008

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Dear KBabu

Just a view point.

From your working.

Rah is in sign of Sat, Sat is not among RP so leave Rahu.

Ketu is in cancer Moon is not among RP so leave Ketu.

Effective RP are thus Jup,VEN,Me,Mars,SUN these are five.

Common with significator of II,VII and XI are

Me Ju Mars Ra( FOR SAT)

You will run MER_ JUP-Rah-Mars 11 April 2009 to 18 April 2009 giving you marriage,

Provided transits agree.It will be a love marriage.

with best wishes.

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Monday, September 22, 2008 8:43 AM

Marriage analysis in KP - Request

Dear Raichur Ji, TW Ji, Sathish Ji, L Y Rao Ji, Punit Ji, MK Ji and other interested members,

I request you to analyse my horoscope to find when will I marry.

My birth details are

D.O.B : 13th August 1976P.O.B : Coimbatore, TamilnaduT.O.B : 8:49:40 AM

Here is my attempt.

Classic KP Method:

Q: Is marriage promised per natal chart?Rule: If 7th CSL signifies 2 or 7 or 11, marriage is promised

K.P Four-fold significators===========================================================Sub's star|Sublord| Cusp | A | B | C | D=========================================================== | | 2 | Ra | Ra | Me,Ke | Ve=========================================================== Sa | Sa | 7 | -- | -- | -- | Ju=========================================================== | | 11 | Ma,Ju | | | | | | Mo,Sa | Su,Sa | -- | Mo===========================================================

Analysis: 7th cuspal sublord Sa which is in his own star.

Both Sublord and its star lord signifies 11 (i.e saturn is A grade significator for house 11)

Planets that signifies 2 or 7 or 11 are Su(B),Mo(A),Ma(A),Ra(A),Ju(A),Sa(A),Me©,Ke©,Ve(D). All 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11. 6 planets are either A or B grade significators and rest are C or D grade significators.

12 to concerned house are not favorable. 12 to 7th cusp is 6 from Asc. However, I would not consider 2nd cusp in this regard, So planets signifying 12,6 are as follows6th ==> Mo(B & C), Sa©

Here Sa is not strongly negating. i.e Sa signifies 11 as A & B grade compared to C grade signification to 6

So, Marriage is promised.

Ok. Till now it is no big deal... Marriage Timing??

Ruling Planets at time of judgement:Casting Date and Time: Sunday 21 September 2008 03:56:37 PMPlace of Casting: Mars, Pennysylvania, USA (80:0:42 W, 40:41:45 N) Place is near to pittsburgh

Lagna: Ju Ve (SgL StL)Moon: Me Ma (SgL StL)Day Lord is: Su

No Planets in Star of Retrograde PlanetsNo Planets in Sub of Retrograde PlanetsRahu Agent For: Mo Sa Ketu Agent For: Mo Me

As Me is in RP, Ke acts as an agent for Me.

So effective RP's are Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke

Common planets in significator table and RP:All planets in RPs are significators of 2 or 7 or 11 (coz all the 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11)

Fruitful significators: 1) Using RPs : Ju,Ve, Me, Ma, Su, Ke2) selecting the significators which are in the stars of the cusp sub lord of the concerned houses : Mo (Mo is deposited in 7th and 11th CSL Sa), Sa (Sa is deposited in own star which is 5th, 7th and 11th CSL)3) selecting the significators whose sub lords are one of the significators: Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (as all 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11, I have taken sublords of all planets)Summation : Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke (As per RP) : Mo & Sa (As per 2nd method) : Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (As per 3rd method)

Negative Significators: 6th house significators ==> Mo(B & C), Sa©. Here Mo is very close to 7th cusp i.e less than 1.5 degrees. Also Mo is in Star and Sublord of 7th CSL. So Mo very well signifies 7th cusp and it is in star of Sa which strongly signifies 11th cusp. So, I would like to reject Mo as strong negator to 7th. Sa also I would like to reject as it is strong significator of 11th house & cusp

Effective Fruitful Significators: Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke (as per RP), Sa (as strong significator of 11) & Ra (as per 3rd method and also A significator of 2nd house). Only Mo is left out.

Q: When will marriage fructify?Timing Event:Year: Ju is in Ve & Su star till 21st Jan 2009. After that Mo star which we are not considering.Month: Su will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through the way as all 8 planets are fruitful significatorsDay : Mo will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through the way as all 8 planets are fruitful significators

D.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - No Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (I believe this is most effective as Ma is Yogi planet and it is in 11th in navamsa. Pardon me to deviate from KP rules. Just that I want to use all systems to fortify my prognosis. I'm fond of Sheshadri Iyer's divisional chart reading method. Iyer and Guruji KSK were contemporaries and both were of same philosophy on star lord's role in astrology until KSK invented sub lord theory) Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - Yes

Conclusion: There is a chance to get marry every day

4 Step Theory:

Planet: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) It's SUB LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) SUB's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }Effectively Ke : 12,2,9

Planet: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) It's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) Effectively Ve : 8,12,2,9

Planet: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 It's STAR LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 Effectively Su : 12,1,10,8,9,4,7,11

Planet: Moo Occ: 6[P] Owns: 11 (Conj: 7 )It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 It's SUB LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 SUB's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 Effectively Mo : 6,11,7,5

Planet: Mar Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 It's SUB LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }SUB's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }Effectively Ma : 6,11,7,5

Planet: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }It's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) Effectively Ra : 2,12,2,9

Planet: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) Effectively Ju : 8,9,4,7,11,12,2

Planet: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6 It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 Effectively Sa : 11,5,6,8,9,4,7,12

Planet: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e) It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12 Effectively Me : 12,2,9,8,9,4,7,11

Q: Is marriage promised?A: 7th CSL Sa signifies 11,5 in 1st & 2nd step and 11th in 4th step and hence marriage is promised.

Planets signification pertaining to 2,7,11. We leave -ve house signification in 4 stepKe => 2Ve => 2Su => 7,11Mo => 7,11Ma => 7,11Ra => 2Ju => 7,11Sa => 7,11Me => 2,7,11

Again all 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11.

Q: When will marriage fructify?Rule: The event will fructify only when the DBA lords are jointly the primary significators of all the required houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage), signifying at least one different house each by DBA.

Timing Event:

D.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Mo-7,11) Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Ma-7,11) Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Ra-2)

Conclusion: Again, There is a chance to get marry every day

Request: Although the classic KP method and 4 step suggests that chances to get marry is almost every day in reality this is not happening. Marriage has not happened till now coz I my brother marriage was delayed one and it just happened in July 2008. Also I have punarphoo and it cannot delay further from here as I have crossed 32 year mark.

I request members to analyse my approach of the methods discussed above and guide me if I have made any mistake. Secondly and more importantly, can you provide me likely dates for marriage? In my humble opinion, horary comes to rescue in these cases, I believe. I'm not an expert in any system and Horary is never my cup of tea. I request the seniors to help me in this.

Here is my question: When will I marry?Horary Number : 31

I would like to know the following1) When will I marry?2) May I know her characteristics?3) Will she be working and in that case what could be her field of profession?

Here are some of my details just in case if you want to verifyPhysical Appearence: Looks young than age. I attribute this to Me who is sublord of Asc. Many say I look like 26-27 although I'm 32 now. Affected by residual polio paralysis (left leg, very mild) when I was 2 year old but can do things everyday activity normally and can drive 2 wheeler and 4 wheeler very well. On a lighter note, I drive 4 wheeler like Michael Schumaker and so my friends call me Mysore Schumaker (when I was in Mysore, Karnataka)

Education: B.E Mechanical Engineer (1993-1997), M.E Engineering Design(1997-1999)

Occupation: Mechanical Engineer (2000-2001) Software Engineer (2001 - till date)

Thanks for reading such a long story of mine.

Regards,K.Babu

Notes:1) I have used Jothish Deepika for casting chart with KP New Ayanamsa2) 6,8,12th houses are unfavorable to house in question. Hence 6th, 12th and 2th house from Asc are unfavorable. However 2nd house cannot be considered as unfavorable as 2nd house itself is one of supporting house for mariage. 8th house to 7th house can cause obstacles but cannot deny. So only 12th house to 7th house can deny marriage i.e 6th house signification is detrimental to marriage. Thatz why I have used only 6th house for negation in above analysis. I could be wrong in this. I request learned scholars to guide me.3) I have referred TW Ji's article "Differences between KP and Four Step Method by Tin Win in ASTROVISION, July 2008" from files section. I cannot express in words how much this kind of summary articles have been helpful. KP community is greatly indebted to TW Ji for his compilation and analysis.4) Thanks to Gondalekar Ji for his 4 step contribution5) Birth Time is verified by MK's rule. Thanks to MK Ji for sharing this rule.

September 23, 2008

Dear Ramesh Ji,

Thank you very much for sparing your valuable time and providing

answers to my request.

Can you please clarify me whether you have used the prasna lagna for

the provided number or the RP Lagna?

For 4:30:15 PM on Sep 22nd at B'lore, Lagna at TOJ is Aquarius and

the Prasna Lagna is Taurus. As per JHora 7.2 am getting lagna as

above. Kindly clarify the same.

Also, I request you and other senior members to comment on my

analysis. Please let me know my shortcomings in analysis.

Thank you once again.

Regards,

K.Babu

, Ramesh <ram_t_1968 wrote:

>

> #31 Bangalore 4.30 PM

>

> Moon in 5th, matter related to family (progeny effectively -

procreate) and connected to 2nd, 7th and 11th.

>

> 7th Cuspal Sublord is Rahu, with its Starlord Moon and Sublord

Venus.

>

> Current Strong RP's Mars and Venus.

>

> Marriage is promised and favourable period is from March 17th,

2009 to October 10th, 2009.

>

> Since Mars is strong along with Venus, I prefer Venus as it is in

transit with 5th house now.

>

> Hence the possible time to fix/engage - Mar 17th to April 10th,

2009.

>

> The marriage would happen in a convenient time before October

10th, 2009..

>

> //Where does the bride come from & How does she look?

>

> No love marriage.

>

> From a known family. Proper age difference.

>

> Probably a working wife. Will travel abroad together short term on

work.

>

> //Cross Check, based on your birth data @ Coimbatore 11 N 77 E

>

> Between 21st Mar to 1st Sept 2009 - with a high possibility

during - June 12th to July 4th

>

> Also 7th sublord is Venus connected to Lagna's Sublord shows about

Astrological knowledge!

>

> Good Luck!

>

> Amma Saranam!

>

> Regards

> Ramesh

> http://www.amma.org

>

> babukrcbe <babukrcbe

>

> Monday, 22 September, 2008 8:43:11 AM

> Marriage analysis in KP - Request

>

> Dear Raichur Ji, TW Ji, Sathish Ji, L Y Rao Ji, Punit Ji, MK Ji

and other interested members,

> I request you to analyse my horoscope to find when will I marry.

> My birth details are

> D.O.B : 13th August 1976

> P.O.B : Coimbatore, Tamilnadu

> T.O.B : 8:49:40 AM

> Here is my attempt.

> Classic KP Method:

> Q: Is marriage promised per natal chart?

> Rule: If 7th CSL signifies 2 or 7 or 11, marriage is promised

> K.P Four-fold significators

> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ==

> Sub's star|Sublord| Cusp | A | B | C | D

> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ==

> | | 2 | Ra | Ra | Me,Ke

| Ve

> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =========

==

> Sa | Sa | 7 | -- | -- | --

| Ju

> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ==

> | | 11 | Ma,Ju | | |

> | | | Mo,Sa | Su,Sa | -- |

Mo

> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ==

>

> Analysis: 7th cuspal sublord Sa which is in his own star.

> Both Sublord and its star lord signifies 11 (i.e saturn is A grade

significator for house 11)

> Planets that signifies 2 or 7 or 11 are Su(B),Mo(A), Ma(A),Ra(

A),Ju(A), Sa(A),Me( C),Ke©, Ve(D).

> All 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11.

> 6 planets are either A or B grade significators and rest are C or

D grade significators.

> 12 to concerned house are not favorable. 12 to 7th cusp is 6 from

Asc.

> However, I would not consider 2nd cusp in this regard, So planets

signifying 12,6 are as follows

> 6th ==> Mo(B & C), Sa©

> Here Sa is not strongly negating. i.e Sa signifies 11 as A & B grade

compared to C grade signification to 6

> So, Marriage is promised.

> Ok. Till now it is no big deal... Marriage Timing??

> Ruling Planets at time of judgement:

> Casting Date and Time: Sunday 21 September 2008 03:56:37 PM

> Place of Casting: Mars, Pennysylvania, USA (80:0:42 W, 40:41:45

N)

> Place is near to pittsburgh

> Lagna: Ju Ve (SgL StL)

> Moon: Me Ma (SgL StL)

> Day Lord is: Su

> No Planets in Star of Retrograde Planets

> No Planets in Sub of Retrograde Planets

> Rahu Agent For: Mo Sa

> Ketu Agent For: Mo Me

> As Me is in RP, Ke acts as an agent for Me.

> So effective RP's are Ju,Ve,Me,Ma, Su,Ke

> Common planets in significator table and RP:

> All planets in RPs are significators of 2 or 7 or 11 (coz all the

9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11)

> Fruitful significators:

> 1) Using RPs : Ju,Ve, Me, Ma, Su, Ke

> 2) selecting the significators which are in the stars of the cusp

sub lord of the concerned houses : Mo (Mo is deposited in 7th and

11th CSL Sa), Sa (Sa is deposited in own star which is 5th, 7th and

11th CSL)

> 3) selecting the significators whose sub lords are one of the

significators: Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (as all 9 planets signify 2 or 7

or 11, I have taken sublords of all planets)

> Summation : Ju,Ve,Me,Ma, Su,Ke (As per RP) : Mo & Sa (As per 2nd

method) : Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (As per 3rd method)

> Negative Significators: 6th house significators ==> Mo(B & C), Sa

©. Here Mo is very close to 7th cusp i.e less than 1.5 degrees.

Also Mo is in Star and Sublord of 7th CSL. So Mo very well signifies

7th cusp and it is in star of Sa which strongly signifies 11th cusp.

So, I would like to reject Mo as strong negator to 7th. Sa also I

would like to reject as it is strong significator of 11th house &

cusp

> Effective Fruitful Significators: Ju,Ve,Me,Ma, Su,Ke (as per RP),

Sa (as strong significator of 11) & Ra (as per 3rd method and also A

significator of 2nd house). Only Mo is left out.

> Q: When will marriage fructify?

> Timing Event:

> Year: Ju is in Ve & Su star till 21st Jan 2009. After that Mo star

which we are not considering.

> Month: Su will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through the

way as all 8 planets are fruitful significators

> Day : Mo will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through the

way as all 8 planets are fruitful significators

> D.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - No

> Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (I

believe this is most effective as Ma is Yogi planet and it is in

11th in navamsa. Pardon me to deviate from KP rules. Just that I

want to use all systems to fortify my prognosis. I'm fond of

Sheshadri Iyer's divisional chart reading method. Iyer and Guruji

KSK were contemporaries and both were of same philosophy on star

lord's role in astrology until KSK invented sub lord theory)

> Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - Yes

> Conclusion: There is a chance to get marry every day

>

> 4 Step Theory:

> Planet: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma

Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }

> It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> It's SUB LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> SUB's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra )

{SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }

> Effectively Ke : 12,2,9

> Planet: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> It's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra )

{SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }

> It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)

> SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> Effectively Ve : 8,12,2,9

> Planet: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> It's STAR LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)

> It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )

> SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> Effectively Su : 12,1,10,8,9, 4,7,11

> Planet: Moo Occ: 6[P] Owns: 11 (Conj: 7 )

> It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6

> It's SUB LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6

> SUB's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6

> Effectively Mo : 6,11,7,5

> Planet: Mar Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8

> It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> It's SUB LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL:

Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }

> SUB's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL:

Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }

> Effectively Ma : 6,11,7,5

> Planet: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ:

12 Owns: 2 9(e) }

> It's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL:

Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }

> It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)

> SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> Effectively Ra : 2,12,2,9

> Planet: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )

> It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)

> SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> Effectively Ju : 8,9,4,7,11,12, 2

> Planet: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6

> It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6

> It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )

> SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> Effectively Sa : 11,5,6,8,9,4, 7,12

> Planet: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)

> It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )

> SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> Effectively Me : 12,2,9,8,9,4, 7,11

> Q: Is marriage promised?

> A: 7th CSL Sa signifies 11,5 in 1st & 2nd step and 11th in 4th

step and hence marriage is promised.

> Planets signification pertaining to 2,7,11. We leave -ve house

signification in 4 step

> Ke => 2

> Ve => 2

> Su => 7,11

> Mo => 7,11

> Ma => 7,11

> Ra => 2

> Ju => 7,11

> Sa => 7,11

> Me => 2,7,11

> Again all 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11.

> Q: When will marriage fructify?

> Rule: The event will fructify only when the DBA lords are jointly

the primary significators of all the required houses (2, 7, 11 for

marriage), signifying at least one different house each by DBA.

> Timing Event:

> D.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - Yes (Me-

2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Mo-7,11)

> Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (Me-

2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Ma-7,11)

> Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - Yes (Me-

2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Ra-2)

> Conclusion: Again, There is a chance to get marry every day

>

> Request: Although the classic KP method and 4 step suggests that

chances to get marry is almost every day in reality this is not

happening. Marriage has not happened till now coz I my brother

marriage was delayed one and it just happened in July 2008. Also I

have punarphoo and it cannot delay further from here as I have

crossed 32 year mark.

> I request members to analyse my approach of the methods discussed

above and guide me if I have made any mistake. Secondly and more

importantly, can you provide me likely dates for marriage? In my

humble opinion, horary comes to rescue in these cases, I believe.

I'm not an expert in any system and Horary is never my cup of tea. I

request the seniors to help me in this.

> Here is my question: When will I marry?

> Horary Number : 31

> I would like to know the following

> 1) When will I marry?

> 2) May I know her characteristics?

> 3) Will she be working and in that case what could be her field of

profession?

> Here are some of my details just in case if you want to verify

> Physical Appearence: Looks young than age. I attribute this to Me

who is sublord of Asc. Many say I look like 26-27 although I'm 32

now. Affected by residual polio paralysis (left leg, very mild) when

I was 2 year old but can do things everyday activity normally and

can drive 2 wheeler and 4 wheeler very well. On a lighter note, I

drive 4 wheeler like Michael Schumaker and so my friends call me

Mysore Schumaker (when I was in Mysore, Karnataka)

> Education: B.E Mechanical Engineer (1993-1997), M.E Engineering

Design(1997- 1999)

> Occupation: Mechanical Engineer (2000-2001)

> Software Engineer (2001 - till date)

> Thanks for reading such a long story of mine.

> Regards,

> K.Babu

> Notes:

> 1) I have used Jothish Deepika for casting chart with KP New

Ayanamsa

> 2) 6,8,12th houses are unfavorable to house in question. Hence

6th, 12th and 2th house from Asc are unfavorable. However 2nd house

cannot be considered as unfavorable as 2nd house itself is one of

supporting house for mariage. 8th house to 7th house can cause

obstacles but cannot deny. So only 12th house to 7th house can deny

marriage i.e 6th house signification is detrimental to marriage.

Thatz why I have used only 6th house for negation in above analysis.

I could be wrong in this. I request learned scholars to guide me.

> 3) I have referred TW Ji's article " Differences between KP and

Four Step Method by Tin Win in ASTROVISION, July 2008 " from files

section.. I cannot express in words how much this kind of summary

articles have been helpful. KP community is greatly indebted to TW

Ji for his compilation and analysis.

> 4) Thanks to Gondalekar Ji for his 4 step contribution

> 5) Birth Time is verified by MK's rule. Thanks to MK Ji for

sharing this rule.

>

> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on

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>

September 23, 2008

Here is a run through attempt.

> D.O.B : 13th August 1976> P.O.B : Coimbatore, Tamilnadu (11N00, 76E58)> T.O.B : 8:49:40 AM

Asc Vi 05:07:44, Moon Pi 03:46:28, New KPA 23:26:25 (KPAstro 3.0)

KP ANALYSIS

7 CSL Sa in 11 l/o 5,6; in own star and sub of Ju in 9 (by orb) l/o 4,7.

Marriage is promised.

Current running Dasa (27-12-1994 to 27-12-2011) lord Me in 12 l/o 1,10; in the star of Ve in 12 l/o l/o 2,9; in sub of Ju in 9 (by orb) l/o 4,7. Difficult to get married.

Current running Bhukti (11-01-2007 to 17-04-2009) lord Ju in 9 (by orb) l/o 4,7; in the star of Su in 11 l/o 12; in sub of Me in 12 l/o 1,10. Not capable of giving marriage.

Next running Bhukti (17-04-2009 to 27-12-2011) lord; in own star and sub of Ju in 9 (by orb) l/o 4,7. Marriage is posible.

Me-Sa-Mo DBA (03-11-2010 to 25-01-2011) is chosen for possible marriage by taking into consideration of Punarphoo and Mo in 7 (by orb) l/o 11; in the star and sub of Sa in 11 l/o 5,6.

FOUR STEP ANLYSIS

A clear cut only PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS as per 4 step book of KPAstro 3.0 print out are given below.

7 CSL Sa is promised for marriage. (If your RPs were taken into consideration story can be different. Pl refer 4 step book or guide.)

Current running Me Dasa is the primary significator of 7,11.

Current running Ju Dasa is not capable of giving marriage. (For denial pl refer the guide, not included in the book.)

Next running Sa Bhukti is the primary significator of 7,11.

Ma is the only one signifying 2 for marriage.

So Me-Sa-Ma DBA (25-01-2011 to 17-08-11) is chosen to complete the chain of 2,7,11.

K. Babu

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4 Step Significators

Empty houses: 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10

Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ma, Ju

Planets in own stars (*): Sa, Ra

Mo conj 7

Ju conj 9

Ke is aspected by Sa

Mo aspects 1

Ju aspects 1, 3, 5

Planet Ke:

Starlord of Ke is Ve: 12; 9

Sublord of Ke is Ve:

Starlord of Ve is Ke: 8; Sgl Ma(12, 3); Stl Ve(12, 9); Asp by Sa(11, 5)

Planet Ve:

Starlord of Ve is Ke: 8; Sgl Ma(12, 3); Stl Ve(12, 9); Asp by Sa(11, 5)

Sublord of Ve is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ve: 12; 9

Planet Su:

Starlord of Su is Me: 12; 1-10

Sublord of Su is Ju+: 8; 4-7; Asp 1; Asp 3; Asp 5; Cnj 9

Starlord of Ju is Su: 11

Planet Mo+: 6; Asp 1; Cnj 7

Starlord of Mo is Sa*: 11; 5

Sublord of Mo is Sa*: 11; 5

Starlord of Sa is Sa*: 11; 5

Planet Ma+: 12; 3

Starlord of Ma is Su: 11

Sublord of Ma is Ra*: 2; Sgl Ve(12, 9)

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 2; Sgl Ve(12, 9)

Planet Ra*: 2; Sgl Ve(12, 9)

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 2; Sgl Ve(12, 9)

Sublord of Ra is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ve: 12; 9

Planet Ju+: 8; 4-7; Asp 1; Asp 3; Asp 5; Cnj 9

Starlord of Ju is Su: 11

Sublord of Ju is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ve: 12; 9

Planet Sa*: 11; 5

Starlord of Sa is Sa*: 11; 5

Sublord of Sa is Ju+: 8; 4-7; Asp 1; Asp 3; Asp 5; Cnj 9

Starlord of Ju is Su: 11

Planet Me:

Starlord of Me is Ve: 12; 9

Sublord of Me is Ju+: 8; 4-7; Asp 1; Asp 3; Asp 5; Cnj 9

Starlord of Ju is Su: 11

, "babukrcbe" <babukrcbe wrote:>> > Dear Raichur Ji, TW Ji, Sathish Ji, L Y Rao Ji, Punit Ji, MK Ji and> other interested members,> > I request you to analyse my horoscope to find when will I marry.> > My birth details are> > D.O.B : 13th August 1976> P.O.B : Coimbatore, Tamilnadu> T.O.B : 8:49:40 AM> > Here is my attempt.> > Classic KP Method:> > Q: Is marriage promised per natal chart?> Rule: If 7th CSL signifies 2 or 7 or 11, marriage is promised> > K.P Four-fold significators> ===========================================================> Sub's star|Sublord| Cusp | A | B | C | D> ===========================================================> | | 2 | Ra | Ra | Me,Ke | Ve> ===========================================================> Sa | Sa | 7 | -- | -- | -- | Ju> ===========================================================> | | 11 | Ma,Ju | | |> | | | Mo,Sa | Su,Sa | -- | Mo> ===========================================================> > > Analysis: 7th cuspal sublord Sa which is in his own star.> > Both Sublord and its star lord signifies 11 (i.e saturn is A grade> significator for house 11)> > Planets that signifies 2 or 7 or 11 are> Su(B),Mo(A),Ma(A),Ra(A),Ju(A),Sa(A),Me©,Ke©,Ve(D).> All 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11.> 6 planets are either A or B grade significators and rest are C or D> grade significators.> > 12 to concerned house are not favorable. 12 to 7th cusp is 6 from Asc.> However, I would not consider 2nd cusp in this regard, So planets> signifying 12,6 are as follows> 6th ==> Mo(B & C), Sa©> > Here Sa is not strongly negating. i.e Sa signifies 11 as A & B grade> compared to C grade signification to 6> > So, Marriage is promised.> > Ok. Till now it is no big deal... Marriage Timing??> > Ruling Planets at time of judgement:> Casting Date and Time: Sunday 21 September 2008 03:56:37 PM> Place of Casting: Mars, Pennysylvania, USA (80:0:42 W, 40:41:45 N)> Place is near to pittsburgh> > Lagna: Ju Ve (SgL StL)> Moon: Me Ma (SgL StL)> Day Lord is: Su> > No Planets in Star of Retrograde Planets> No Planets in Sub of Retrograde Planets> Rahu Agent For: Mo Sa> Ketu Agent For: Mo Me> > As Me is in RP, Ke acts as an agent for Me.> > So effective RP's are Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke> > Common planets in significator table and RP:> All planets in RPs are significators of 2 or 7 or 11 (coz all the 9> planets signify 2 or 7 or 11)> > Fruitful significators:> 1) Using RPs : Ju,Ve, Me, Ma, Su, Ke> 2) selecting the significators which are in the stars of the cusp sub> lord of the concerned houses : Mo (Mo is deposited in 7th and 11th CSL> Sa), Sa (Sa is deposited in own star which is 5th, 7th and 11th CSL)> 3) selecting the significators whose sub lords are one of the> significators: Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (as all 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or> 11, I have taken sublords of all planets)> Summation : Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke (As per RP) : Mo & Sa (As per 2nd method)> : Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (As per 3rd method)> > Negative Significators: 6th house significators ==> Mo(B & C), Sa©. Here> Mo is very close to 7th cusp i.e less than 1.5 degrees. Also Mo is in> Star and Sublord of 7th CSL. So Mo very well signifies 7th cusp and it> is in star of Sa which strongly signifies 11th cusp. So, I would like to> reject Mo as strong negator to 7th. Sa also I would like to reject as it> is strong significator of 11th house & cusp> > Effective Fruitful Significators: Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke (as per RP), Sa (as> strong significator of 11) & Ra (as per 3rd method and also A> significator of 2nd house). Only Mo is left out.> > Q: When will marriage fructify?> Timing Event:> Year: Ju is in Ve & Su star till 21st Jan 2009. After that Mo star which> we are not considering.> Month: Su will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through the way> as all 8 planets are fruitful significators> Day : Mo will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through the way as> all 8 planets are fruitful significators> > D.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - No> Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (I believe> this is most effective as Ma is Yogi planet and it is in 11th in> navamsa. Pardon me to deviate from KP rules. Just that I want to use all> systems to fortify my prognosis. I'm fond of Sheshadri Iyer's divisional> chart reading method. Iyer and Guruji KSK were contemporaries and both> were of same philosophy on star lord's role in astrology until KSK> invented sub lord theory)> Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - Yes> > Conclusion: There is a chance to get marry every day []> > > 4 Step Theory:> > Planet: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma Occ:> 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }> It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)> It's SUB LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)> SUB's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma> Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }> Effectively Ke : 12,2,9> > Planet: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)> It's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma > Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }> It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)> SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)> Effectively Ve : 8,12,2,9> > Planet: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12> It's STAR LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)> It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )> SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12> Effectively Su : 12,1,10,8,9,4,7,11> > Planet: Moo Occ: 6[P] Owns: 11 (Conj: 7 )> It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6> It's SUB LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6> SUB's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6> Effectively Mo : 6,11,7,5> > Planet: Mar Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8> It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12> It's SUB LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ:> 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }> SUB's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve > Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }> Effectively Ma : 6,11,7,5> > Planet: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve Occ: 12 > Owns: 2 9(e) }> It's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve > Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }> It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)> SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)> Effectively Ra : 2,12,2,9> > Planet: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )> It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12> It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)> SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)> Effectively Ju : 8,9,4,7,11,12,2> > Planet: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6> It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6> It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )> SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12> Effectively Sa : 11,5,6,8,9,4,7,12> > Planet: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)> It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)> It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )> SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12> Effectively Me : 12,2,9,8,9,4,7,11> > Q: Is marriage promised?> A: 7th CSL Sa signifies 11,5 in 1st & 2nd step and 11th in 4th step and> hence marriage is promised.> > Planets signification pertaining to 2,7,11. We leave -ve house> signification in 4 step> Ke => 2> Ve => 2> Su => 7,11> Mo => 7,11> Ma => 7,11> Ra => 2> Ju => 7,11> Sa => 7,11> Me => 2,7,11> > Again all 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11.> > Q: When will marriage fructify?> Rule: The event will fructify only when the DBA lords are jointly the> primary significators of all the required houses (2, 7, 11 for> marriage), signifying at least one different house each by DBA.> > Timing Event:> > D.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 :> Ju-7,11 : Mo-7,11)> Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 :> Ju-7,11 : Ma-7,11)> Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - Yes (Me-2,7,11 :> Ju-7,11 : Ra-2)> > Conclusion: Again, There is a chance to get marry every day [] []> > > Request: Although the classic KP method and 4 step suggests that chances> to get marry is almost every day in reality this is not happening.> Marriage has not happened till now coz I my brother marriage was delayed> one and it just happened in July 2008. Also I have punarphoo and it> cannot delay further from here as I have crossed 32 year mark.> > I request members to analyse my approach of the methods discussed above> and guide me if I have made any mistake. Secondly and more importantly,> can you provide me likely dates for marriage? In my humble opinion,> horary comes to rescue in these cases, I believe. I'm not an expert in> any system and Horary is never my cup of tea. I request the seniors to> help me in this.> > Here is my question: When will I marry?> Horary Number : 31> > I would like to know the following> 1) When will I marry?> 2) May I know her characteristics?> 3) Will she be working and in that case what could be her field of> profession?> > Here are some of my details just in case if you want to verify> Physical Appearence: Looks young than age. I attribute this to Me who is> sublord of Asc. Many say I look like 26-27 although I'm 32 now. Affected> by residual polio paralysis (left leg, very mild) when I was 2 year old> but can do things everyday activity normally and can drive 2 wheeler and> 4 wheeler very well. On a lighter note, I drive 4 wheeler like Michael> Schumaker and so my friends call me Mysore Schumaker (when I was in> Mysore, Karnataka)> > Education: B.E Mechanical Engineer (1993-1997), M.E Engineering> Design(1997-1999)> > Occupation: Mechanical Engineer (2000-2001)> Software Engineer (2001 - till date)> > Thanks for reading such a long story of mine.> > Regards,> K.Babu> > Notes:> 1) I have used Jothish Deepika for casting chart with KP New Ayanamsa> 2) 6,8,12th houses are unfavorable to house in question. Hence 6th, 12th> and 2th house from Asc are unfavorable. However 2nd house cannot be> considered as unfavorable as 2nd house itself is one of supporting house> for mariage. 8th house to 7th house can cause obstacles but cannot deny.> So only 12th house to 7th house can deny marriage i.e 6th house> signification is detrimental to marriage. Thatz why I have used only 6th> house for negation in above analysis. I could be wrong in this. I> request learned scholars to guide me.> 3) I have referred TW Ji's article "Differences between KP and Four Step> Method by Tin Win in ASTROVISION, July 2008" from files section. I> cannot express in words how much this kind of summary articles have been> helpful. KP community is greatly indebted to TW Ji for his compilation> and analysis.> 4) Thanks to Gondalekar Ji for his 4 step contribution> 5) Birth Time is verified by MK's rule. Thanks to MK Ji for sharing this> rule.>

September 24, 2008

Dear Swami,

Thank you for your analysis.

I need a clarification in your comment.

Sun is a B grade significator for 11 and Ve is a D grade

significator for 2nd in natal chart. You have left out Ve and Su but

included Ra for saturn in Common significator of 2, 7 & 11 and RPs.

We have Ve and Su in RPs as well. I did not understand this.

Can you please explain me this?

Regards,

K.Babu

, " swami " <swami wrote:

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Hare Ram Krishna

> Dear KBabu

> Just a view point.

> From your working.

> Rah is in sign of Sat, Sat is not among RP so leave Rahu.

>

> Ketu is in cancer Moon is not among RP so leave Ketu.

>

> Effective RP are thus Jup,VEN,Me,Mars,SUN these are five.

>

> Common with significator of II,VII and XI are

>

> Me Ju Mars Ra( FOR SAT)

>

> You will run MER_ JUP-Rah-Mars 11 April 2009 to 18 April 2009

giving you marriage,

>

> Provided transits agree.It will be a love marriage.

>

> with best wishes.

>

> OM TATSAT

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> babukrcbe

>

> Monday, September 22, 2008 8:43 AM

> Marriage analysis in KP - Request

>

> Dear Raichur Ji, TW Ji, Sathish Ji, L Y Rao Ji, Punit Ji, MK Ji

and other interested members,

>

> I request you to analyse my horoscope to find when will I marry.

>

> My birth details are

>

> D.O.B : 13th August 1976

> P.O.B : Coimbatore, Tamilnadu

> T.O.B : 8:49:40 AM

>

> Here is my attempt.

>

> Classic KP Method:

>

> Q: Is marriage promised per natal chart?

> Rule: If 7th CSL signifies 2 or 7 or 11, marriage is promised

>

> K.P Four-fold significators

> ===========================================================

> Sub's star|Sublord| Cusp | A | B | C | D

> ===========================================================

> | | 2 | Ra | Ra | Me,Ke

| Ve

> ===========================================================

> Sa | Sa | 7 | -- | -- | --

| Ju

> ===========================================================

> | | 11 | Ma,Ju |

| |

> | | | Mo,Sa | Su,Sa | --

| Mo

> ===========================================================

>

> Analysis: 7th cuspal sublord Sa which is in his own star.

>

> Both Sublord and its star lord signifies 11 (i.e saturn is A

grade significator for house 11)

>

> Planets that signifies 2 or 7 or 11 are Su(B),Mo(A),Ma(A),Ra

(A),Ju(A),Sa(A),Me©,Ke©,Ve(D).

> All 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11.

> 6 planets are either A or B grade significators and rest are C

or D grade significators.

>

> 12 to concerned house are not favorable. 12 to 7th cusp is 6

from Asc.

> However, I would not consider 2nd cusp in this regard, So

planets signifying 12,6 are as follows

> 6th ==> Mo(B & C), Sa©

>

> Here Sa is not strongly negating. i.e Sa signifies 11 as A & B

grade compared to C grade signification to 6

>

> So, Marriage is promised.

>

> Ok. Till now it is no big deal... Marriage Timing??

>

> Ruling Planets at time of judgement:

> Casting Date and Time: Sunday 21 September 2008 03:56:37 PM

> Place of Casting: Mars, Pennysylvania, USA (80:0:42 W, 40:41:45

N)

> Place is near to pittsburgh

>

> Lagna: Ju Ve (SgL StL)

> Moon: Me Ma (SgL StL)

> Day Lord is: Su

>

> No Planets in Star of Retrograde Planets

> No Planets in Sub of Retrograde Planets

> Rahu Agent For: Mo Sa

> Ketu Agent For: Mo Me

>

> As Me is in RP, Ke acts as an agent for Me.

>

> So effective RP's are Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke

>

> Common planets in significator table and RP:

> All planets in RPs are significators of 2 or 7 or 11 (coz all

the 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11)

>

> Fruitful significators:

> 1) Using RPs : Ju,Ve, Me, Ma, Su, Ke

> 2) selecting the significators which are in the stars of the

cusp sub lord of the concerned houses : Mo (Mo is deposited in 7th

and 11th CSL Sa), Sa (Sa is deposited in own star which is 5th, 7th

and 11th CSL)

> 3) selecting the significators whose sub lords are one of the

significators: Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (as all 9 planets signify 2 or 7

or 11, I have taken sublords of all planets)

> Summation : Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke (As per RP) : Mo & Sa (As per 2nd

method) : Ju, Sa, Me, Ra, Ve (As per 3rd method)

>

> Negative Significators: 6th house significators ==> Mo(B & C), Sa

©. Here Mo is very close to 7th cusp i.e less than 1.5 degrees.

Also Mo is in Star and Sublord of 7th CSL. So Mo very well signifies

7th cusp and it is in star of Sa which strongly signifies 11th cusp.

So, I would like to reject Mo as strong negator to 7th. Sa also I

would like to reject as it is strong significator of 11th house &

cusp

>

> Effective Fruitful Significators: Ju,Ve,Me,Ma,Su,Ke (as per RP),

Sa (as strong significator of 11) & Ra (as per 3rd method and also A

significator of 2nd house). Only Mo is left out.

>

> Q: When will marriage fructify?

> Timing Event:

> Year: Ju is in Ve & Su star till 21st Jan 2009. After that Mo

star which we are not considering.

> Month: Su will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through

the way as all 8 planets are fruitful significators

> Day : Mo will be in stars other than Mo in almost all through

the way as all 8 planets are fruitful significators

>

> D.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - No

> Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (I

believe this is most effective as Ma is Yogi planet and it is in

11th in navamsa. Pardon me to deviate from KP rules. Just that I

want to use all systems to fortify my prognosis. I'm fond of

Sheshadri Iyer's divisional chart reading method. Iyer and Guruji

KSK were contemporaries and both were of same philosophy on star

lord's role in astrology until KSK invented sub lord theory)

> Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - Yes

>

> Conclusion: There is a chance to get marry every day

>

> 4 Step Theory:

>

> Planet: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra ){SgL: Ma

Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }

> It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> It's SUB LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> SUB's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra )

{SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }

> Effectively Ke : 12,2,9

>

> Planet: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> It's STAR LORD: Ket Occ: 8 (Asp: 2 Asp: Ra Asp.By: Sa Ra )

{SgL: Ma Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8 }

> It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)

> SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> Effectively Ve : 8,12,2,9

>

> Planet: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> It's STAR LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)

> It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )

> SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> Effectively Su : 12,1,10,8,9,4,7,11

>

> Planet: Moo Occ: 6[P] Owns: 11 (Conj: 7 )

> It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6

> It's SUB LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6

> SUB's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6

> Effectively Mo : 6,11,7,5

>

> Planet: Mar Occ: 12[P] Owns: 3[P](e) 8

> It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> It's SUB LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL:

Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }

> SUB's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke )

{SgL: Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }

> Effectively Ma : 6,11,7,5

>

> Planet: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL: Ve

Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }

> It's STAR LORD: Rah Occ: 2 (Asp: 8 Asp: Ke Asp.By: Ke ){SgL:

Ve Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e) }

> It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)

> SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> Effectively Ra : 2,12,2,9

>

> Planet: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )

> It's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> It's SUB LORD: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)

> SUB's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> Effectively Ju : 8,9,4,7,11,12,2

>

> Planet: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6

> It's STAR LORD: Sat Occ: 11[P] Owns: 5[P](e) 6

> It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )

> SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> Effectively Sa : 11,5,6,8,9,4,7,12

>

> Planet: Mer Occ: 12 Owns: 1(e) 10(e)

> It's STAR LORD: Ven Occ: 12 Owns: 2 9(e)

> It's SUB LORD: Jup Occ: 8[P] Owns: 4[P](e) 7[P](e) (Conj: 9 )

> SUB's STAR LORD: Sun Occ: 11 Owns: 12

> Effectively Me : 12,2,9,8,9,4,7,11

>

> Q: Is marriage promised?

> A: 7th CSL Sa signifies 11,5 in 1st & 2nd step and 11th in 4th

step and hence marriage is promised.

>

> Planets signification pertaining to 2,7,11. We leave -ve house

signification in 4 step

> Ke => 2

> Ve => 2

> Su => 7,11

> Mo => 7,11

> Ma => 7,11

> Ra => 2

> Ju => 7,11

> Sa => 7,11

> Me => 2,7,11

>

> Again all 9 planets signify 2 or 7 or 11.

>

> Q: When will marriage fructify?

> Rule: The event will fructify only when the DBA lords are

jointly the primary significators of all the required houses (2, 7,

11 for marriage), signifying at least one different house each by

DBA.

>

> Timing Event:

>

> D.B.A => Me-Ju-Mo (20th Aug 2008 to 28th Oct 2008) - Yes (Me-

2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Mo-7,11)

> Me-Ju-Ma (28th Oct 2008 to 15th Dec 2008) - Yes (Me-

2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Ma-7,11)

> Me-Ju-Ra (15th Dec 2008 to 18th Apr 2009) - Yes (Me-

2,7,11 : Ju-7,11 : Ra-2)

>

> Conclusion: Again, There is a chance to get marry every day

>

> Request: Although the classic KP method and 4 step suggests that

chances to get marry is almost every day in reality this is not

happening. Marriage has not happened till now coz I my brother

marriage was delayed one and it just happened in July 2008. Also I

have punarphoo and it cannot delay further from here as I have

crossed 32 year mark.

>

> I request members to analyse my approach of the methods

discussed above and guide me if I have made any mistake. Secondly

and more importantly, can you provide me likely dates for marriage?

In my humble opinion, horary comes to rescue in these cases, I

believe. I'm not an expert in any system and Horary is never my cup

of tea. I request the seniors to help me in this.

>

> Here is my question: When will I marry?

> Horary Number : 31

>

> I would like to know the following

> 1) When will I marry?

> 2) May I know her characteristics?

> 3) Will she be working and in that case what could be her field

of profession?

>

> Here are some of my details just in case if you want to verify

> Physical Appearence: Looks young than age. I attribute this to

Me who is sublord of Asc. Many say I look like 26-27 although I'm 32

now. Affected by residual polio paralysis (left leg, very mild) when

I was 2 year old but can do things everyday activity normally and

can drive 2 wheeler and 4 wheeler very well. On a lighter note, I

drive 4 wheeler like Michael Schumaker and so my friends call me

Mysore Schumaker (when I was in Mysore, Karnataka)

>

> Education: B.E Mechanical Engineer (1993-1997), M.E

Engineering Design(1997-1999)