Horary Timing an event-retrograde planet

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Dr.Luther,

Retrograde Planets are stonger than their normal times- It is true because they are away from Sun and less combusted. As per Keplar's theory when they go away from Sun, in an ecliptic zodiac they look like retarted. Retrogration is only an apparent phenamena. All of us are aware of this.

In traditional astrology a span of 30 deg sign is taken - so in positional strength the retrogration, exaltation, debilitation etc., are considered.

In KP system they are not considered - Obviously for the reason that the effect of a planet is studied in the span of a single degree - with its Star-lord and Sub-lord.

In KP in birth charts it is not considered at all.

But in horary (KP system) it is considered for 'timing of events' - mostly if the event is promised it is likely to materealise,at a time, when such retrograde planet star direct motion.

Negatine / positive nature of the result depend on the malefic/benfic nature of the planet.AND not due to retrogration.

Retrograde positions cannot be ignored , any way, in birth / horary charts.

Experiences of individual astrologers cannot be ruled out- but each chart is to be studied with specific attention.

The challenge to ASTROLOGER is when more than one planet get retarded - the timing of event is to be carefully made.

" No planet work in isolation - At any time native get a package deal from all planets with a leadership of one/more planets, perhaps, due to DBA / transit positions."

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--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: Horary >> Timing an event Date: Tuesday, 9 September, 2008, 9:46 PM

 

 

 

 

Respected Sir,

If the sub-lord of XI is in the constellation of a retrograde planet the mater will not come through. One need not go ahead. Taking another horary number for review leads to invalid prediction. I don't remember if I have ever read about the effect if the sub-lord of a cusp concerned with a mater occupies a constellation of a retrograde planet.This is about horary chart. It is not mendatory that the result will be negative if the sub-lord of a houce occupies a constellation of a retrograde planet. Rather it is said retrograde planets are stronger..

Comments from seniors are invited.

With regards..

 

Dr. Luther

 

tw853 <tw853 >@gro ups.comMonday, September 8, 2008 1:52:06 PM Re: Horary >> Timing an event

 

It's more interesting what will be the result of the concerned house,if the sublord of the concerned cusp or 11th cusp is in the sub ofretrograde planet.Thanks and regards,tw@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear sir,> As far as I remember, in horary, first of all we have to examine theXI cusp. XI cusp sub-lord if retrograde,the mater may come to fruitionbut only after the sub-lord takes a direct course and reaches thepoint from where it began retrograde motion. If its star-lord isretrograde then the result is negative. One need not proceed further.If the star lord is in direct motion then one has to examine otherpoints mentioned by you.> With regards.> Dr. Luther> > > > > ----- Original Message

----> S.Gopalakrishnan <subragops3@ ...>> @gro ups.com> Monday, September 8, 2008 1:05:41 AM> Re: Horary >> Timing an event> > > Dear Antariksh Ji,> > The KP Horary Rules are stated as under:> > 1) For every query, find out the MOST IMPORTANT house, its cuspal > sub-lord and the star-lord of the cuspal sub-lord.> > 2) Find out the houses RELATED to this main house, its cuspal sub-> lord and the star-lord of the cuspal sub-lord.> > 3) The Cuspal sub-lord of the main house should NOT be retrograde > itself at the time of judgement.> > 4) The star-lord of the cuspal sub-lord of the main shouse should > NOT be retrograde at the time of judgement.> > 5) The

main house sub-lord should be related with other houses > pertaining to the question.> > 6) Finally, rules (3), (4) and (5) should be SIMULTANEOUSLY > satisfied to denote a positive answer. If any one of the rules (3) > or (4) or (5) is not satisfied, it shows a negative result for the > querent. Results will not fructify..> > These are the horary rules I have learnt and applying to situations.> > Hope the Senior Members will add more light.> > Regards> S.Gopalakrishnan> > @gro ups.com, *** ANTARIKSH *** > <antariksh_80@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear L Y Rao,> > > > I'm sorry I didn't understand what you meant in your last mail. > Please explain it clearly. > > > > Please> > note that I'm a

follower of KP principles. In my previous mail, I> > talked about some of my doubts I faced while predicting thru KP > Horary> > [using principles mentioned in Nakshtra Chintamani and Astro > Secrets & KP] and humbly requested all KP stalwarts to> > help me understanding the KP Horary rules better and rectify my> > prediction if it was wrong. > > > > I don't know if that's something> > "re-kindling a well-settled controversy, all over again". If so I > really> > apologize. Really this is not the site meant for helping ALL KP > lovers> > to understand the subject better?> > > > Regards & Best Wishes,> > ANTARIKSH> > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..>> > @gro ups.com> > Cc:

ANTARIKSH <antariksh_80@ ...>> > Sunday, September 7, 2008 11:03:18 AM> > Re: Horary >> Timing an event> > > > > > Dear Antariksh,> > I wonder if you know about how bitterly BV > Raman and his "more-loyal- than-the- king" followers had waged a WAR > against KSK and lost miserably... not very long ago...> > It seems to me that you are interested in > re-kindling a well-settled controversy, all over again...IF so, this > is a K.P. site...please note....not meant for you,in my humble > opinion...> > Kindly desist from comparing Raman's > version of Traditional Astrology with the far superior technique of > K.P. !> > L.Yogesh Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > Sagar S <ssagar86@

..>> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, 6 September, 2008 10:07:52 PM> > Re: Horary >> Timing an event> > > > > > BEFORE 31ST OCTOBER CHANGE OF WILL TAKE PLACE AS IT SIGNIFIES 6TH > mARS OCCUPIED AND SUN TOO SIGNIFIES 6TH.> > sAHHASRA sAAGARA> > NOTE; DHANISHTA MAY BE THE FRUIYFUL STAR> > > > --- On Sat, 6/9/08, *** ANTARIKSH *** <antariksh_80@ > > wrote:> > > > *** ANTARIKSH *** <antariksh_80@ ..com>> > Re: Horary >> Timing an event> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, 6 September, 2008, 12:06 PM> > > > > > Dear Sagar ji,> > > > Jupiter will get direct motion in

the second week of September. At > that time [till 31-oct-08], native (as per horary) will go thru Mars > dasha [significator of 6,5,1,8 and in sub of Saturn who occupies 5 > and owns 11,12] and Sun bhukti [significator of 6,5,2,7 and in sub > of Mars who occupies 6 and owns 1,8]. Now as Sun doesn't signify > 3,5,9 thru its sub, will it give the results of 3,5,9 during its > bhukti period? Please clarify my doubt.> > > > I feel next bhukti of Moon [significator of 6,1,8,5 and in sub of > Sun who occupies 5 and owns 6], would be more convenient to change > his job. What's your opinion on this?> > > > > > > > > > Regards & Best Wishes,> > ANTARIKSH> > > > " Those who know Astrology can only indicate in a way what will > take place in future. Who else, except the Creator, Brahma, can say

> with certainty what will definitely happen?" - B. V. Raman> > > > > > > > > > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:44:45 AM> > Re: Horary >> Timing an event> > > > > > Jupiter in sub of Rahu, in 10th. > > Dear Antariksh > > jupiter signifying 9th and in the sub of Rahu in 10th has to give > better change of job on or after Jupiter gets direct motion if > 6,2,10,11 dasha,b,a,sookshma period coincide. > > Sahhasra Saagara> > > > --- On Fri, 5/9/08, *** ANTARIKSH *** <antariksh_80@ > > wrote:> > > > *** ANTARIKSH *** <antariksh_80@

>> > Horary >> Timing an event> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 5 September, 2008, 2:08 PM> > > > > > Dear Sirs,> > I'm having some confusion while predicting time of an event using > horary. If the cuspal sub-lord signifies the primary and/or the > secondary houses related to the matter asked, it said that the > matter will fructify in the joint period of the significators of the > concerned houses. > > Now in case there are more than 6 significators for the concerned > houses, then how would one determine the correct period of the event?> > One method is to eliminate the significators using Ruling planets. > That's fine as long as there are 3 RPs. But in cases we find 4-5 RPs > inluding two nodes, how would someone judge the joint period?> > Here

I've a question if Rahu/Ketu acts as an agent for a planet > which is not among the ruling planets, but is a significator of > concerned matter - can we still eliminate that planet as it's not an > RP?> > I've heard about another method of looking into the sub lord of > each of the significators, if both the significator and its sub lord > signify the concerned house(s), then only it would be considered as > one of the joint period rulers (D/B/A/S). We need to start checking > from the Time Of Judgement period rulers.> > It's also said that if cusp sub lord of 11th is a fast moving > plant, matter will fructify [querent's desire will be fulfilled] > within near future (in hours/days/month) , otherwise it'd delay (in > days/months/ years) [Astrosecrets & KP]> > Please correct me if my understanding is wrong. > > Here is an example I was

working on. I cordially invite your > valuable comments on this!> > Query: "Will I be able to change my job to a better one? If yes, > then when?"> > Horary No.: 7 (1 to 249)> > TOJ: September 03, 2008, 11:52:57PM IST > > POJ: 88:24:32 E / 22:36:39 N (Geographic) > > > > Joint period rulers at the TOJ:- Mars-Sun-Saturn- Sun > > > > Analysis: > > > > Cuspal sub lord of 10th: Mars. > > Cuspal sub lord signifies following bhavas – > > A. 6 > > B. 6 > > C.. 5 > > D. 1, 8 > > So matter is confirmed. > > > > Time of Event: > > > > Significators of 3rd house: > > A. x > > B. x > > C. Ketu > > D. Mercury > > > > Significators of 5th house: > > A. x > > B. Sun, Saturn

> > C.. Mercury, Venus, Mars > > D. Moon > > > > Significators of 9th house: > > A. x > > B. Jupiter[R] > > C. x > > D. Jupiter[R] > > > > Significators: Ketu, Merecury, Sun, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Moon, > Jupiter [R] > > > > Ruling planets at the TOJ:- > > Asc. Sub lord: Jupiter[R] > > Asc. Star lord: Ketu > > Asc. Sign lord: Mars > > Moon Star lord: Mars > > Moon Sign lord: Venus > > Day lord: Mercury > > > > Rahu represents: Saturn > > Ketu represents: Moon > > > > Ruling planets: Ketu, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Jupiter[R] > > > > Keeping Jupiter here as after second week of september, it'd come > in direct motion, so it'd be a fruitful significator. > > > > As Moon is

represented by Ketu, matter will be materialized in > Mars dasa, Moon bhukti, Jupiter anthara. > > Mars in sub of Saturn, owns 11th, 12th and in 5th. > > Moon in sub of Sun, owns 6th and in 5th. > > Mercury in sub of Rahu, in 10th. > > Jupiter in sub of Rahu, in 10th. > > > > Discarding Sun as Sun in sub of Mars owns 1st and 8th and in 6th - > none of 3, 5 or 9. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Antariksh > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

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