Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch. The analysis is as follows: - Name : Self Address : Berhampur Question : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day? History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08 Horary No. : 125 Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008 Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of Planets Cusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord. Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu Saturn II Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu Rahu III Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon Moon IV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars Mars V Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus Rahu VI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus Moon VII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun Jupiter VIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury Mars IX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun Rahu X Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win. Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India. Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor. Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthened It appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars. Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Dear Dr. Luther, Any response for my quiry. Some life events i hv mentioned in my previuos mail -private one.Thank you, Sincerly, S. Hariharan From: rathlutherDate: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:00:48 -0700 ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch.The analysis is as follows: -Name : SelfAddress : BerhampurQuestion : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08Horary No. : 125Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of PlanetsCusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord.Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu SaturnII Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu RahuIII Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon MoonIV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars MarsV Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus RahuVI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus MoonVII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun JupiterVIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury MarsIX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun RahuX Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win.Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India.Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthenedIt appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars.Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 dear dr.luther, as per my s/w programme,6th and 11th cusps are different than mentioned by you.6th sub is rahu and 11th sub is venus. can you check? -sunil gondhalekar On 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch. The analysis is as follows: -Name : SelfAddress : BerhampurQuestion : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08Horary No. : 125Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008 Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of PlanetsCusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord. Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu SaturnII Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu RahuIII Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon Moon IV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars MarsV Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus RahuVI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus Moon VII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun JupiterVIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury MarsIX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun Rahu X Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win. Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India. Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthenedIt appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars. Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 dear sunil ji, you told in your SW sub lords of 6 and 11 are different, but you didnt gave your opinion with full analyses, what could be results as per your calculations. now due to rain the match will be played tomorrow. what will you say now ? please taker my comments with positive spirit for astrology. regards hs nagi --- On Tue, 8/26/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalakaRe: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka Cc: rathlutherDate: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:57 AM dear dr.luther, as per my s/w programme,6th and 11th cusps are different than mentioned by you.6th sub is rahu and 11th sub is venus. can you check? -sunil gondhalekar On 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch.The analysis is as follows: -Name : SelfAddress : BerhampurQuestion : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08Horary No. : 125Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of PlanetsCusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord.Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu SaturnII Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu RahuIII Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon MoonIV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars MarsV Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus RahuVI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus MoonVII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun JupiterVIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury MarsIX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun RahuX Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win.Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India.Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthenedIt appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars.Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Dear Sunilji, With due regards. The cusps in horary chart change for 2 reasons. 1. If the places of judgment are different. I have errected for Berhampur in Orissa State. Where did you do it? 2. Difference in SWs. The longitude and latitude for a paticular place some times differ by few minutes in different SWs. Obvioously when you are at a different location the cusps will change the Ascendant remaining same according to the horary number. The match has been postponed for tomarrow due to rain. Will you please enlighten in this regard, how could it be predicted? Dr. Luther hardeep singh <bkhardeep Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:39:49 AMRe: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka dear sunil ji, you told in your SW sub lords of 6 and 11 are different, but you didnt gave your opinion with full analyses, what could be results as per your calculations. now due to rain the match will be played tomorrow. what will you say now ? please taker my comments with positive spirit for astrology. regards hs nagi --- On Tue, 8/26/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka@gro ups.comCc: rathluther Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:57 AM dear dr.luther, as per my s/w programme,6th and 11th cusps are different than mentioned by you.6th sub is rahu and 11th sub is venus. can you check? -sunil gondhalekar On 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch.The analysis is as follows: -Name : SelfAddress : BerhampurQuestion : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08Horary No. : 125Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of PlanetsCusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord.Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu SaturnII Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu RahuIII Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon MoonIV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars MarsV Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus RahuVI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus MoonVII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun JupiterVIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury MarsIX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun RahuX Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win.Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India.Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthenedIt appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars.Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Dear Sir, I shall find out. The data shall have to be in my files. Sorry for missing. Dr. Luther Hariharan S <hariharan_sm Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:35:36 AMRE: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka Dear Dr. Luther, Any response for my quiry. Some life events i hv mentioned in my previuos mail -private one.Thank you, Sincerly, S. Hariharan @gro ups.comrathluther Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:00:48 -0700 ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch.The analysis is as follows: -Name : SelfAddress : BerhampurQuestion : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08Horary No. : 125Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of PlanetsCusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord.Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu SaturnII Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu RahuIII Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon MoonIV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars MarsV Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus RahuVI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus MoonVII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun JupiterVIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury MarsIX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun RahuX Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win.Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India.Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthenedIt appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars.Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Dear friends, Horary No. : 125 Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008 Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Asc Li 00:00:00, NKPA 23:53:15 (KPAstro 3.0) 6 CSL Pi 01:33:20 (Ju-Ju-Ra) (Sgl-Stl-Sbl) 11 CSL Vi 00:47:53 (Su-Ke-Ve) 12 CSL Vi 01:33:20 (Me-Su-Ju) 5 CSL Aq 00:47:53 (Sa-Ma-Me) India 6 CSL Ra is in 4 and in the star and sub of Ma in 12 l/o 3,7,8. Ra signlord Sa in 11, l/o 5. 12,7,8 are found to be the grade A significators by looking at the 4 step significators. 11 CSL Ve is in 11, l/o 1,2,9. Ve in the star of Su in 11, l/o 11 and sub of Ra in 4. Ra is in the star of Ma in 12 l/o 3,7,8. Ra signlord Sa in 11, l/o 5. Sri Lanka 12 CSL JuR (9,10,12); Ve(5,7,8,3): Ra (10,6,9,1,2,5,11) 5 CSL Me (6,4,6); Su (5,5); Ju (9,10,12) It will be a tough fight, which India cannot win. By the 4 step significators (KPAstro 3.0) given below clearly indicates loss for India. Plt Ra: Stl of Ra is Ma: 12:7,8 Sbl of Ra is Ma: Stl of Ma is Mo: 9 Plt Ve: Cnj 12 Stl of Ve is Su: Sbl of Ve is Ra: Stl of Ra: 12:7,8 Regards, tw , hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: > > dear sunil ji, > > you told in your SW sub lords of 6 and 11 are different, but you didnt gave your opinion with full analyses, what could be results as per your calculations. > > now due to rain the match will be played tomorrow. > > what will you say now ? > > please taker my comments with positive spirit for astrology. > > regards > hs nagi > > > > --- On Tue, 8/26/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka > Re: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka > > Cc: rathluther > Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:57 AM > dear dr.luther, > as per my s/w programme,6th and 11th cusps are different > than mentioned by you.6th sub is rahu and 11th sub is venus. > can you check? > -sunil gondhalekar > > > On 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs. > We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch. > The analysis is as follows: - > Name : Self > Address : Berhampur > Question : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day? > History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08 > Horary No. : 125 > Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008 > Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. > > Position of Cusps Position of Planets > Cusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord. > Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu Saturn > II Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu Rahu > III Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon Moon > IV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars Mars > V Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus Rahu > VI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus Moon > VII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun Jupiter > VIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury Mars > IX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun Rahu > X Mercury Jupiter Moon > XI Moon Mercury Saturn > XII Sun Sun Rahu > XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win. > Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India. > Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor. > Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthened > It appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars. > Dr. Luther > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Dear KP Stalwarts, Regards to all. This is one practical problem with KP followers. Place and Time of Judgment should not differ with each KP astrologer, when answer for one question is sought by many or for scrutinizing the reason for right or wrong decision made by one person. One makes a prediction. It comes out right or goes wrong. Why and How? The answer should be derived and ascertained by others from that same chart, and not by using another chart for the same question. Only then can we learn KP applications in a successful way from the winner-astrologer. Till date, our experiences in this regard shows that no method is fool-proof and no two SWs give similar charts (due to difference in their basic data inputs - the ephemeris used, the Ayanamsa taken, the Dasa calculations, and more important, the signifaction part, and so on).One chart given for analysis, the next problem arises in each one's 'INTERPRETATION' of the significations in the chart, and in considering the Ruling Planets for selection of the right significators for the said event in question. Now, gentlemen, try this method for uniform approach, and it does work out well. Keeping aside the differences in SWs, try for answers by casting Horary Charts for DATE, TIME, PLACE of QUERY, instead of Time of Analysis, as said in KP. This theory is backed by the simple logic that URGE by the Querist will always be stronger than that of the astrologer to get the answer for the same. More reasonable, when compared to the urge of different astrologers try to answer for the same question. I am a sincere disciple of our Guruji KSK's principles. But still, I believe that innovations do help any science to overcome the pitfalls experienced in it. Now, for Dr.Luther's Doubt. The Asc. Sublord in your chart must have strongly signified 6th and 12th Houses, which caused the postponement of the match. The logical reasoning on this is that the Asc. and the Opponent were prone to detachment and couldn't meet each other for a contest, due to the effect of 6th and 12th Houses. No other reason can be more logical. How and where ( at what level) did your Asc.Sublord signify 6 and 12? Now this is the question we all should ponder into. Your chart will not apply for next day's match. We should make a new chart with a new Horary number. With thanks and warm regards,Mohan Kumar.R.Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) Wisdom Institute of Spoken English, 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 4:59 PM Dear Sunilji, With due regards. The cusps in horary chart change for 2 reasons. 1. If the places of judgment are different. I have errected for Berhampur in Orissa State. Where did you do it? 2. Difference in SWs. The longitude and latitude for a paticular place some times differ by few minutes in different SWs. Obvioously when you are at a different location the cusps will change the Ascendant remaining same according to the horary number. The match has been postponed for tomarrow due to rain. Will you please enlighten in this regard, how could it be predicted? Dr. Luther hardeep singh <bkhardeep >@gro ups.comTuesday, August 26, 2008 7:39:49 AMRe: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka dear sunil ji, you told in your SW sub lords of 6 and 11 are different, but you didnt gave your opinion with full analyses, what could be results as per your calculations. now due to rain the match will be played tomorrow. what will you say now ? please taker my comments with positive spirit for astrology. regards hs nagi --- On Tue, 8/26/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka@gro ups.comCc: rathluther Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:57 AM dear dr.luther, as per my s/w programme,6th and 11th cusps are different than mentioned by you.6th sub is rahu and 11th sub is venus. can you check? -sunil gondhalekar On 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch.The analysis is as follows: -Name : SelfAddress : BerhampurQuestion : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08Horary No. : 125Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of PlanetsCusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord.Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu SaturnII Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu RahuIII Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon MoonIV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars MarsV Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus RahuVI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus MoonVII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun JupiterVIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury MarsIX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun RahuX Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win.Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India.Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthenedIt appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars.Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 dear hardeep, i have observed differnt sublords in my s/w and they were showing loosing india against shrilanka.and that was a reverse prediction and thats why i have not explaiend my analysis. thanks that rain has saved us.regarding match on 27th. no one asks me query about this,so i have not yet tried. thanks -sunil gondhalekar On 8/26/08, hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: dear sunil ji, you told in your SW sub lords of 6 and 11 are different, but you didnt gave your opinion with full analyses, what could be results as per your calculations. now due to rain the match will be played tomorrow. what will you say now ? please taker my comments with positive spirit for astrology. regards hs nagi --- On Tue, 8/26/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka Re: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka Cc: rathlutherDate: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:57 AM dear dr.luther, as per my s/w programme,6th and 11th cusps are different than mentioned by you.6th sub is rahu and 11th sub is venus. can you check? -sunil gondhalekar On 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch. The analysis is as follows: -Name : SelfAddress : BerhampurQuestion : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08Horary No. : 125Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008 Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of PlanetsCusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord. Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu SaturnII Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu RahuIII Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon Moon IV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars MarsV Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus RahuVI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus Moon VII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun JupiterVIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury MarsIX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun Rahu X Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win. Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India. Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthenedIt appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars. Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 thans for reply regards nagi--- On Wed, 8/27/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalakaRe: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 2:59 AM dear hardeep, i have observed differnt sublords in my s/w and they were showing loosing india against shrilanka.and that was a reverse prediction and thats why i have not explaiend my analysis. thanks that rain has saved us.regarding match on 27th. no one asks me query about this,so i have not yet tried. thanks -sunil gondhalekar On 8/26/08, hardeep singh <bkhardeep > wrote: dear sunil ji, you told in your SW sub lords of 6 and 11 are different, but you didnt gave your opinion with full analyses, what could be results as per your calculations. now due to rain the match will be played tomorrow. what will you say now ? please taker my comments with positive spirit for astrology. regards hs nagi --- On Tue, 8/26/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka@gro ups.comCc: rathluther Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:57 AM dear dr.luther, as per my s/w programme,6th and 11th cusps are different than mentioned by you.6th sub is rahu and 11th sub is venus. can you check? -sunil gondhalekar On 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch.The analysis is as follows: -Name : SelfAddress : BerhampurQuestion : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08Horary No. : 125Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of PlanetsCusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord.Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu SaturnII Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu RahuIII Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon MoonIV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars MarsV Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus RahuVI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus MoonVII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun JupiterVIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury MarsIX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun RahuX Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win.Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India.Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthenedIt appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars.Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Dear Friends, Here is the KPAstro print-out of TSP. Regards, tw Pt. Kar's Theory of Short Prediction Location: BERHAMPUR, ORISSA, India26/Aug/2008 Time: 09:30:00 AM Horary: 125/249Question: Will India win? AnalysisTime used for analysis: 26-Aug-2008 [5:30:0]Saturn's effect is considered for analysis. ASC lords are Ve-Ma-Me-MeMOON lords are Me-Ma-Mo-Ju Rule - 1:SS lord of Asc SS lord is Sa.Rule NOT Satisfied. Rule - 2:Star lord of Asc SS lord is Su.Rule NOT Satisfied. Rule - 3:Star lord of SS lord of Asc SS lord is Ve.Rule NOT Satisfied. 0 out of 3 rules satisfied.Hence according to TSP, the answer is NO. , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear friends,> > Horary No. : 125> Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008> Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa.> > Asc Li 00:00:00, NKPA 23:53:15 (KPAstro 3.0)> > 6 CSL Pi 01:33:20 (Ju-Ju-Ra) (Sgl-Stl-Sbl)> 11 CSL Vi 00:47:53 (Su-Ke-Ve)> > 12 CSL Vi 01:33:20 (Me-Su-Ju)> 5 CSL Aq 00:47:53 (Sa-Ma-Me)> > India> > 6 CSL Ra is in 4 and in the star and sub of Ma in 12 l/o 3,7,8.> Ra signlord Sa in 11, l/o 5. 12,7,8 are found to be the grade A > significators by looking at the 4 step significators.> > 11 CSL Ve is in 11, l/o 1,2,9. Ve in the star of Su in 11, l/o 11 > and sub of Ra in 4. Ra is in the star of Ma in 12 l/o 3,7,8. Ra > signlord Sa in 11, l/o 5.> > Sri Lanka> > 12 CSL JuR (9,10,12); Ve(5,7,8,3): Ra (10,6,9,1,2,5,11)> 5 CSL Me (6,4,6); Su (5,5); Ju (9,10,12)> > It will be a tough fight, which India cannot win.> > By the 4 step significators (KPAstro 3.0) given below clearly > indicates loss for India.> > Plt Ra:> Stl of Ra is Ma: 12:7,8> Sbl of Ra is Ma:> Stl of Ma is Mo: 9> > Plt Ve: Cnj 12> Stl of Ve is Su:> Sbl of Ve is Ra:> Stl of Ra: 12:7,8> > Regards,> > tw> > > , hardeep singh bkhardeep@ > wrote:> >> > dear sunil ji,> > > > you told in your SW sub lords of 6 and 11 are different, but you > didnt gave your opinion with full analyses, what could be results > as per your calculations.> > > > now due to rain the match will be played tomorrow.> > > > what will you say now ?> > > > please taker my comments with positive spirit for astrology.> > > > regards> > hs nagi> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 8/26/08, sunil gondhalekar sunilalaka@ wrote:> > > > sunil gondhalekar sunilalaka@> > Re: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka> > > > Cc: rathluther@> > Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:57 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear dr.luther,> > as per my s/w programme,6th and 11th cusps are different> > than mentioned by you.6th sub is rahu and 11th sub is venus.> > can you check?> > -sunil gondhalekar> > > > > > On 8/26/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs.> > We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is > another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not > untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one > wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the > Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch.> > The analysis is as follows: -> > Name : Self> > Address : Berhampur> > Question : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?> > History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th > august 08> > Horary No. : 125> > Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008> > Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa.> > > > Position of Cusps > Position of Planets> > Cusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn > Lord Str. Lord Sub lord.> > Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun > Sun Kethu Saturn> > II Venus Jupiter Moon Moon > Mercury Rahu Rahu> > III Jupiter Kethu Jupiter > Mars Mercury Moon Moon> > IV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu > Saturn Mars Mars> > V Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter > Jupiter Venus Rahu> > VI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn > Sun Venus Moon> > VII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury > Mercury Sun Jupiter> > VIII Mars Sun Rahu > Kethu Moon Mercury Mars> > IX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus > Mercury Sun Rahu> > X Mercury Jupiter Moon > > XI Moon Mercury Saturn > > XII Sun Sun Rahu > > XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of > Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is > never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire > that we win.> > Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. > Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since > it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the > opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. > Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is > in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be > tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with > sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is > also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India.> > Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.> > Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It > is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthened> > It appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period > because of Mars.> > Dr. Luther> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Dear Mohan Kumar, Thank you very much. You have shown a probable way to justify the postponement of match. I shall examine in that light again and see whether it co-relates. Secondly, of course to protect myself, I would say that theprediction was meant for the IV ODI, whetther victory or loss. We won. But in such types of maters the reply is 'yes' or 'no'; so the chances of acuracy of prediction is 50/50. Therefore I do not claim that I was right although the result was correct whether it was played on 26th or 27th.. We won ODI IV.My urge was not to predict for the game played on 26th but on the Particular OID. I won't stress more on the issue. Let us experiment in next opportunities. Now I understand that the first question to be studied is whethr the event will take place at all. It's just as we predict if one will marry at all before we look for the date of marriage. Thanks again. With due regards. Dr. Luther Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:57:38 PMRe: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka Dear KP Stalwarts, Regards to all. This is one practical problem with KP followers. Place and Time of Judgment should not differ with each KP astrologer, when answer for one question is sought by many or for scrutinizing the reason for right or wrong decision made by one person. One makes a prediction. It comes out right or goes wrong. Why and How? The answer should be derived and ascertained by others from that same chart, and not by using another chart for the same question. Only then can we learn KP applications in a successful way from the winner-astrologer. Till date, our experiences in this regard shows that no method is fool-proof and no two SWs give similar charts (due to difference in their basic data inputs - the ephemeris used, the Ayanamsa taken, the Dasa calculations, and more important, the signifaction part, and so on).One chart given for analysis, the next problem arises in each one's 'INTERPRETATION' of the significations in the chart, and in considering the Ruling Planets for selection of the right significators for the said event in question. Now, gentlemen, try this method for uniform approach, and it does work out well. Keeping aside the differences in SWs, try for answers by casting Horary Charts for DATE, TIME, PLACE of QUERY, instead of Time of Analysis, as said in KP. This theory is backed by the simple logic that URGE by the Querist will always be stronger than that of the astrologer to get the answer for the same. More reasonable, when compared to the urge of different astrologers try to answer for the same question. I am a sincere disciple of our Guruji KSK's principles. But still, I believe that innovations do help any science to overcome the pitfalls experienced in it. Now, for Dr.Luther's Doubt. The Asc. Sublord in your chart must have strongly signified 6th and 12th Houses, which caused the postponement of the match. The logical reasoning on this is that the Asc. and the Opponent were prone to detachment and couldn't meet each other for a contest, due to the effect of 6th and 12th Houses. No other reason can be more logical. How and where ( at what level) did your Asc.Sublord signify 6 and 12? Now this is the question we all should ponder into. Your chart will not apply for next day's match. We should make a new chart with a new Horary number. With thanks and warm regards,Mohan Kumar.R.Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) Wisdom Institute of Spoken English, 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka@gro ups.comTuesday, August 26, 2008, 4:59 PM Dear Sunilji, With due regards. The cusps in horary chart change for 2 reasons. 1. If the places of judgment are different. I have errected for Berhampur in Orissa State. Where did you do it? 2. Difference in SWs. The longitude and latitude for a paticular place some times differ by few minutes in different SWs. Obvioously when you are at a different location the cusps will change the Ascendant remaining same according to the horary number. The match has been postponed for tomarrow due to rain. Will you please enlighten in this regard, how could it be predicted? Dr. Luther hardeep singh <bkhardeep >@gro ups.comTuesday, August 26, 2008 7:39:49 AMRe: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka dear sunil ji, you told in your SW sub lords of 6 and 11 are different, but you didnt gave your opinion with full analyses, what could be results as per your calculations. now due to rain the match will be played tomorrow. what will you say now ? please taker my comments with positive spirit for astrology. regards hs nagi --- On Tue, 8/26/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka@gro ups.comCc: rathluther Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:57 AM dear dr.luther, as per my s/w programme,6th and 11th cusps are different than mentioned by you.6th sub is rahu and 11th sub is venus. can you check? -sunil gondhalekar On 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch.The analysis is as follows: -Name : SelfAddress : BerhampurQuestion : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08Horary No. : 125Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of PlanetsCusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord.Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu SaturnII Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu RahuIII Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon MoonIV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars MarsV Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus RahuVI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus MoonVII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun JupiterVIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury MarsIX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun RahuX Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win.Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India.Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthenedIt appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars.Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Dear Dr.Luther Sir, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your comments and your generous spirit. I feel encouraged by your kind words. Just call me MK. Let us join hands for further exploration into the Secrets of Astrology.With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:50:32 AMRe: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka Dear Mohan Kumar, Thank you very much. You have shown a probable way to justify the postponement of match. I shall examine in that light again and see whether it co-relates. Secondly, of course to protect myself, I would say that theprediction was meant for the IV ODI, whetther victory or loss. We won. But in such types of maters the reply is 'yes' or 'no'; so the chances of acuracy of prediction is 50/50. Therefore I do not claim that I was right although the result was correct whether it was played on 26th or 27th.. We won ODI IV.My urge was not to predict for the game played on 26th but on the Particular OID. I won't stress more on the issue. Let us experiment in next opportunities. Now I understand that the first question to be studied is whethr the event will take place at all. It's just as we predict if one will marry at all before we look for the date of marriage. Thanks again. With due regards. Dr. Luther Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, August 26, 2008 7:57:38 PMRe: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka Dear KP Stalwarts, Regards to all. This is one practical problem with KP followers. Place and Time of Judgment should not differ with each KP astrologer, when answer for one question is sought by many or for scrutinizing the reason for right or wrong decision made by one person. One makes a prediction. It comes out right or goes wrong. Why and How? The answer should be derived and ascertained by others from that same chart, and not by using another chart for the same question. Only then can we learn KP applications in a successful way from the winner-astrologer. Till date, our experiences in this regard shows that no method is fool-proof and no two SWs give similar charts (due to difference in their basic data inputs - the ephemeris used, the Ayanamsa taken, the Dasa calculations, and more important, the signifaction part, and so on).One chart given for analysis, the next problem arises in each one's 'INTERPRETATION' of the significations in the chart, and in considering the Ruling Planets for selection of the right significators for the said event in question. Now, gentlemen, try this method for uniform approach, and it does work out well. Keeping aside the differences in SWs, try for answers by casting Horary Charts for DATE, TIME, PLACE of QUERY, instead of Time of Analysis, as said in KP. This theory is backed by the simple logic that URGE by the Querist will always be stronger than that of the astrologer to get the answer for the same. More reasonable, when compared to the urge of different astrologers try to answer for the same question. I am a sincere disciple of our Guruji KSK's principles. But still, I believe that innovations do help any science to overcome the pitfalls experienced in it. Now, for Dr.Luther's Doubt. The Asc. Sublord in your chart must have strongly signified 6th and 12th Houses, which caused the postponement of the match. The logical reasoning on this is that the Asc. and the Opponent were prone to detachment and couldn't meet each other for a contest, due to the effect of 6th and 12th Houses. No other reason can be more logical. How and where ( at what level) did your Asc.Sublord signify 6 and 12? Now this is the question we all should ponder into. Your chart will not apply for next day's match. We should make a new chart with a new Horary number. With thanks and warm regards,Mohan Kumar.R.Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) Wisdom Institute of Spoken English, 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka@gro ups.comTuesday, August 26, 2008, 4:59 PM Dear Sunilji, With due regards. The cusps in horary chart change for 2 reasons. 1. If the places of judgment are different. I have errected for Berhampur in Orissa State. Where did you do it? 2. Difference in SWs. The longitude and latitude for a paticular place some times differ by few minutes in different SWs. Obvioously when you are at a different location the cusps will change the Ascendant remaining same according to the horary number. The match has been postponed for tomarrow due to rain. Will you please enlighten in this regard, how could it be predicted? Dr. Luther hardeep singh <bkhardeep >@gro ups.comTuesday, August 26, 2008 7:39:49 AMRe: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka dear sunil ji, you told in your SW sub lords of 6 and 11 are different, but you didnt gave your opinion with full analyses, what could be results as per your calculations. now due to rain the match will be played tomorrow. what will you say now ? please taker my comments with positive spirit for astrology. regards hs nagi --- On Tue, 8/26/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: ODI- India Vs Sri Lanka@gro ups.comCc: rathluther Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:57 AM dear dr.luther, as per my s/w programme,6th and 11th cusps are different than mentioned by you.6th sub is rahu and 11th sub is venus. can you check? -sunil gondhalekar On 8/26/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Dear Sirs. We have failed many times in predicting on Olympic games. This is another attempt to fail. India plays and I am an Indian. It is not untrue that every Indian is interested in Indian cricket, every one wishes India to win, so Do I. And that is why I have considered the Ascendant of the horary chart with out rotating it. Let us watch.The analysis is as follows: -Name : SelfAddress : BerhampurQuestion : Shall we win in ODI against SLK to day?History : ODI India Vs Sri Lanks at Colombo to day i.e. 26th august 08Horary No. : 125Time of judgment : 9-30 AM Date of judgment : 26-08-2008Place of judgment : Berhampur, Orissa. Position of Cusps Position of PlanetsCusps Sgn lord Str lord Sub lord Planets Sgn Lord Str. Lord Sub lord.Asc Venus Mars Mercury Sun Sun Kethu SaturnII Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Mercury Rahu RahuIII Jupiter Kethu Jupiter Mars Mercury Moon MoonIV Jupiter Sun Rahu Rahu Saturn Mars MarsV Saturn Mars Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus RahuVI Saturn Jupiter Moon Saturn Sun Venus MoonVII Mars Kethu Kethu Mercury Mercury Sun JupiterVIII Mars Sun Rahu Kethu Moon Mercury MarsIX Mercury Rahu Rahu Venus Mercury Sun RahuX Mercury Jupiter Moon XI Moon Mercury Saturn XII Sun Sun Rahu XI sub lord s Saturn. It is direct in motion. It is in the star of Venus. Venus is also direct. Saturn is in the sub of Moon which is never retrograde. So there is no hindrance in fulfilling my desire that we win.Now we are running dasa of Rahu. Rahu is agent of Mars and Saturn. Mars gives strength no doubt but it is not a favorable planet since it owns VII and VIII and it occupies XII. So Mars supports the opposition. So during its period the opposition will be stronger. Unfortunately to day is Tuesday, unfavorable for India. But Mars is in star and sub of Moon owner of XI and occupying IX. So it shall be tough but the result shall be favorable. Saturn is related with sports as it owns V, and it occupies XI the house of win. Saturn is also in the sub of Moon so it is supportive to India.Antra, running today, is ruled by Moon the benefactor.Ascendant rising at the time of judgment is 3:28:16 in Libra. It is almost at the horary lagna. So the Ascendant is strengthenedIt appears surely we win, but it shall be tough for some period because of Mars.Dr. Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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