Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Dear Members, I have been following all postings by learned members…. Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings " How to measure URGE " . I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it…. Best regards, - Neelesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage,if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar Sent: Sunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Dear Khandekar For correct horary prediction the true urge of the querist, true urge of the astrologer, running good dasa for the astrologer are essential. In spite of all, if the moon is in the 8th house of the RP chart then also prediction may go wrong. Under these conditions, I do not know how far the horary predictions will be reliable. Dhanabalan --- On Sat, 8/23/08, khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar wrote: khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar KP as a science Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 10:15 PM Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1Re: KP as a science Cc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekarSunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Respected Seniors, Sorry for intervention.. Now a days the incidence of love mrriages in increasing at a great pace. Therefore one has to first examine and either confirm or exclude a love mariage. Then only one should proceed to examine the significance of II, VII and XI. Secondly marriage is a life-time bondage between two lives i.e. person referning to Ascendant and person refering to VII. Therefore 2nd, 7th and 11th from the Ascendant and VII are to be given weitage. Therefore V and VIII are no doubt important in all cases. Invite comments. Kindly respond. With due regards. Dr. Luther Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: KP as a science Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comCc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 dear neelesh, you are right! what hasbe guruji said is 100% correct. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/24/08, khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar wrote: Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings " How to measure URGE " . I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Dear Luther House 12 is bed comfort. So the house 12 also can be included for marriage. House 3 comes under kama trigon and veeria sthana. So the house 3 also can be included for marriage. Dhanabalan --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: KP as a science Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:41 AM Respected Seniors, Sorry for intervention. . Now a days the incidence of love mrriages in increasing at a great pace. Therefore one has to first examine and either confirm or exclude a love mariage. Then only one should proceed to examine the significance of II, VII and XI. Secondly marriage is a life-time bondage between two lives i.e. person referning to Ascendant and person refering to VII. Therefore 2nd, 7th and 11th from the Ascendant and VII are to be given weitage. Therefore V and VIII are no doubt important in all cases. Invite comments. Kindly respond. With due regards. Dr. Luther Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSunday, August 24, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: KP as a science Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comCc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Dear All, The houses 2,7,11 is enough for marriage. Houses 3,5,12 denotes the life after marriage whether enjoyable or not. In this case sexual union. There are people who do not enjoy good sexual life after marriage. So the houses for happy sexual life need not be houses for Marriage. For the question whether Marriage is there in life or not. If there is marriage in life, significators are derived and the time is arrived. Marriage muhurta is different from sexual union time. Sexual union need not be after Marriage can be before marriage also nowadays. After Marriage many select different illict way of life. If you think all the factors should be included then include 8th house also because it indicates the dowry. That cannot be done. So, if the question is "Is marriage destined or not" houses 2,7,11. If yes significator of 2,7,11 to arrive at the date and time of Marriage, simple. So please do not pollute the basic rules framed by our Guruji. Always stick to the basics. With Regards, Kp Follower. --- On Mon, 25/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: KP as a science Date: Monday, 25 August, 2008, 10:45 PM Dear Luther House 12 is bed comfort. So the house 12 also can be included for marriage. House 3 comes under kama trigon and veeria sthana. So the house 3 also can be included for marriage. Dhanabalan --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, August 25, 2008, 12:41 AM Respected Seniors, Sorry for intervention. . Now a days the incidence of love mrriages in increasing at a great pace. Therefore one has to first examine and either confirm or exclude a love mariage. Then only one should proceed to examine the significance of II, VII and XI. Secondly marriage is a life-time bondage between two lives i.e. person referning to Ascendant and person refering to VII. Therefore 2nd, 7th and 11th from the Ascendant and VII are to be given weitage. Therefore V and VIII are no doubt important in all cases. Invite comments. Kindly respond. With due regards. Dr. Luther Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSunday, August 24, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: KP as a science Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comCc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan Sir, Can we add 6th House also? because it is 12th from 7th. Bedcomfort for spouse. When you take bedcomfort for Lagna, there must be bedcomfort for 7th (Spouse) also. Then, should we consider 2,7,11, 5,8,12 and 6 also for one's marriage? Oh, come on, friends! Let us just laugh it out and be serious with rules. We know 6th will negate or deny marriage indicated by 7th House. Get the below rules into your minds and accept the logic behind it. If your Lagna Significator confirms 7+11 Houses. you are destined to marry someone (legal bondage). If your 7th House significator confirms 2+11 Houses, then through your spouse, your family strength gets increased. (You get your family.) If your 7th House significator confirms 5+8+11 houses, through your spouse, you get sexual pleasure. 5th House= pleasure to your five senses or bodily plesure. 8th House= your sexual organ or drive (Kama). 11th House=gain or fulfilment of desires. 12 House is not absolutely necessary. It's only suppementary here. (Sex can be had in many ways, even out of bed also!!!) 12 th House = bed comfort just means any kind of pleasure you get in your bed (a good sleep)or on your bed (sleeping with somebody).Just the pleasure of lying down comfortablly "AARAMSE" = Bodily rest. 12th House = Moksha House - the final rest for our physical body. 12th House can also mean disappointment or pain due to displeasure with sexual mate. (Watch out! Things may not always happen as we wish). Next, 8+5 = 2+11 from 7th House. That is your spouse's family life. That need not abolutely be with the Native alone. She can very well have an open or secret family man other than the native if ever she wants it. This does not count for a native's destiny. Each is destined as shown by his Lagna point, including having a mate for marriage(sex) or not. In a native's chart, any matter of his own destiny should be derived only with reference to Lagna and not with 7th House. So, strictly 2+7+11 are the Houses to be considered for a Native's married life. 5+8+12 Houses support the purpose of marriage - i.e. SEX. Okay? With thanks and warm regards,Mohan Kumar.R.Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:59:02 AMRe: KP as a science Dear All, The houses 2,7,11 is enough for marriage. Houses 3,5,12 denotes the life after marriage whether enjoyable or not. In this case sexual union. There are people who do not enjoy good sexual life after marriage. So the houses for happy sexual life need not be houses for Marriage. For the question whether Marriage is there in life or not. If there is marriage in life, significators are derived and the time is arrived. Marriage muhurta is different from sexual union time. Sexual union need not be after Marriage can be before marriage also nowadays. After Marriage many select different illict way of life. If you think all the factors should be included then include 8th house also because it indicates the dowry. That cannot be done. So, if the question is "Is marriage destined or not" houses 2,7,11. If yes significator of 2,7,11 to arrive at the date and time of Marriage, simple. So please do not pollute the basic rules framed by our Guruji. Always stick to the basics. With Regards, Kp Follower. --- On Mon, 25/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, 25 August, 2008, 10:45 PM Dear Luther House 12 is bed comfort. So the house 12 also can be included for marriage. House 3 comes under kama trigon and veeria sthana. So the house 3 also can be included for marriage. Dhanabalan --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, August 25, 2008, 12:41 AM Respected Seniors, Sorry for intervention. . Now a days the incidence of love mrriages in increasing at a great pace. Therefore one has to first examine and either confirm or exclude a love mariage. Then only one should proceed to examine the significance of II, VII and XI. Secondly marriage is a life-time bondage between two lives i.e. person referning to Ascendant and person refering to VII. Therefore 2nd, 7th and 11th from the Ascendant and VII are to be given weitage. Therefore V and VIII are no doubt important in all cases. Invite comments. Kindly respond. With due regards. Dr. Luther Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSunday, August 24, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: KP as a science Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comCc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Dear Sir, I appreciate your pin pointing on marriage. There should not be more polution and confusion. Dr. Luther muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:29:02 PMRe: KP as a science Dear All, The houses 2,7,11 is enough for marriage. Houses 3,5,12 denotes the life after marriage whether enjoyable or not. In this case sexual union. There are people who do not enjoy good sexual life after marriage. So the houses for happy sexual life need not be houses for Marriage. For the question whether Marriage is there in life or not. If there is marriage in life, significators are derived and the time is arrived. Marriage muhurta is different from sexual union time. Sexual union need not be after Marriage can be before marriage also nowadays. After Marriage many select different illict way of life. If you think all the factors should be included then include 8th house also because it indicates the dowry. That cannot be done. So, if the question is "Is marriage destined or not" houses 2,7,11. If yes significator of 2,7,11 to arrive at the date and time of Marriage, simple. So please do not pollute the basic rules framed by our Guruji. Always stick to the basics. With Regards, Kp Follower. --- On Mon, 25/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, 25 August, 2008, 10:45 PM Dear Luther House 12 is bed comfort. So the house 12 also can be included for marriage. House 3 comes under kama trigon and veeria sthana. So the house 3 also can be included for marriage. Dhanabalan --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, August 25, 2008, 12:41 AM Respected Seniors, Sorry for intervention.. . Now a days the incidence of love mrriages in increasing at a great pace. Therefore one has to first examine and either confirm or exclude a love mariage. Then only one should proceed to examine the significance of II, VII and XI. Secondly marriage is a life-time bondage between two lives i.e. person referning to Ascendant and person refering to VII. Therefore 2nd, 7th and 11th from the Ascendant and VII are to be given weitage. Therefore V and VIII are no doubt important in all cases. Invite comments. Kindly respond. With due regards. Dr. Luther Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSunday, August 24, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: KP as a science Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comCc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Dear MK Scientifically explained. 5,8,12 have more different points . 5th entertainment,love,art,music.8th benefit to others, for common people. 12th loss to native,change of place, moksha,hospital, away from the society Sahahsra Saagara--- On Thu, 28/8/08, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology wrote: Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrologyRe: KP as a science Date: Thursday, 28 August, 2008, 1:11 PM Dear Dhanabalan Sir, Can we add 6th House also? because it is 12th from 7th. Bedcomfort for spouse. When you take bedcomfort for Lagna, there must be bedcomfort for 7th (Spouse) also. Then, should we consider 2,7,11, 5,8,12 and 6 also for one's marriage? Oh, come on, friends! Let us just laugh it out and be serious with rules. We know 6th will negate or deny marriage indicated by 7th House. Get the below rules into your minds and accept the logic behind it. If your Lagna Significator confirms 7+11 Houses. you are destined to marry someone (legal bondage). If your 7th House significator confirms 2+11 Houses, then through your spouse, your family strength gets increased. (You get your family.) If your 7th House significator confirms 5+8+11 houses, through your spouse, you get sexual pleasure. 5th House= pleasure to your five senses or bodily plesure. 8th House= your sexual organ or drive (Kama). 11th House=gain or fulfilment of desires. 12 House is not absolutely necessary. It's only suppementary here. (Sex can be had in many ways, even out of bed also!!!) 12 th House = bed comfort just means any kind of pleasure you get in your bed (a good sleep)or on your bed (sleeping with somebody).Just the pleasure of lying down comfortablly "AARAMSE" = Bodily rest. 12th House = Moksha House - the final rest for our physical body. 12th House can also mean disappointment or pain due to displeasure with sexual mate. (Watch out! Things may not always happen as we wish). Next, 8+5 = 2+11 from 7th House. That is your spouse's family life. That need not abolutely be with the Native alone. She can very well have an open or secret family man other than the native if ever she wants it. This does not count for a native's destiny. Each is destined as shown by his Lagna point, including having a mate for marriage(sex) or not. In a native's chart, any matter of his own destiny should be derived only with reference to Lagna and not with 7th House. So, strictly 2+7+11 are the Houses to be considered for a Native's married life. 5+8+12 Houses support the purpose of marriage - i.e. SEX. Okay? With thanks and warm regards,Mohan Kumar.R.Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, August 28, 2008 7:59:02 AMRe: KP as a science Dear All, The houses 2,7,11 is enough for marriage. Houses 3,5,12 denotes the life after marriage whether enjoyable or not. In this case sexual union. There are people who do not enjoy good sexual life after marriage. So the houses for happy sexual life need not be houses for Marriage. For the question whether Marriage is there in life or not. If there is marriage in life, significators are derived and the time is arrived. Marriage muhurta is different from sexual union time. Sexual union need not be after Marriage can be before marriage also nowadays. After Marriage many select different illict way of life. If you think all the factors should be included then include 8th house also because it indicates the dowry. That cannot be done. So, if the question is "Is marriage destined or not" houses 2,7,11. If yes significator of 2,7,11 to arrive at the date and time of Marriage, simple. So please do not pollute the basic rules framed by our Guruji. Always stick to the basics. With Regards, Kp Follower. --- On Mon, 25/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, 25 August, 2008, 10:45 PM Dear Luther House 12 is bed comfort. So the house 12 also can be included for marriage. House 3 comes under kama trigon and veeria sthana. So the house 3 also can be included for marriage. Dhanabalan --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, August 25, 2008, 12:41 AM Respected Seniors, Sorry for intervention. . Now a days the incidence of love mrriages in increasing at a great pace. Therefore one has to first examine and either confirm or exclude a love mariage. Then only one should proceed to examine the significance of II, VII and XI. Secondly marriage is a life-time bondage between two lives i.e. person referning to Ascendant and person refering to VII. Therefore 2nd, 7th and 11th from the Ascendant and VII are to be given weitage. Therefore V and VIII are no doubt important in all cases. Invite comments. Kindly respond. With due regards. Dr. Luther Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSunday, August 24, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: KP as a science Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comCc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Dear Mk and Ramkumar I enhance your stand on marriage.Well said. As Ramkumar put it ,kindly do not pollute the TEXT. Mk your explanation was nice and suitable. Good luck tkp ghopal--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology wrote: Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrologyRe: KP as a science Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 7:41 AM Dear Dhanabalan Sir, Can we add 6th House also? because it is 12th from 7th. Bedcomfort for spouse. When you take bedcomfort for Lagna, there must be bedcomfort for 7th (Spouse) also. Then, should we consider 2,7,11, 5,8,12 and 6 also for one's marriage? Oh, come on, friends! Let us just laugh it out and be serious with rules. We know 6th will negate or deny marriage indicated by 7th House. Get the below rules into your minds and accept the logic behind it. If your Lagna Significator confirms 7+11 Houses. you are destined to marry someone (legal bondage). If your 7th House significator confirms 2+11 Houses, then through your spouse, your family strength gets increased. (You get your family.) If your 7th House significator confirms 5+8+11 houses, through your spouse, you get sexual pleasure. 5th House= pleasure to your five senses or bodily plesure. 8th House= your sexual organ or drive (Kama). 11th House=gain or fulfilment of desires. 12 House is not absolutely necessary. It's only suppementary here. (Sex can be had in many ways, even out of bed also!!!) 12 th House = bed comfort just means any kind of pleasure you get in your bed (a good sleep)or on your bed (sleeping with somebody).Just the pleasure of lying down comfortablly "AARAMSE" = Bodily rest. 12th House = Moksha House - the final rest for our physical body. 12th House can also mean disappointment or pain due to displeasure with sexual mate. (Watch out! Things may not always happen as we wish). Next, 8+5 = 2+11 from 7th House. That is your spouse's family life. That need not abolutely be with the Native alone. She can very well have an open or secret family man other than the native if ever she wants it. This does not count for a native's destiny. Each is destined as shown by his Lagna point, including having a mate for marriage(sex) or not. In a native's chart, any matter of his own destiny should be derived only with reference to Lagna and not with 7th House. So, strictly 2+7+11 are the Houses to be considered for a Native's married life. 5+8+12 Houses support the purpose of marriage - i.e. SEX. Okay? With thanks and warm regards,Mohan Kumar.R.Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, August 28, 2008 7:59:02 AMRe: KP as a science Dear All, The houses 2,7,11 is enough for marriage. Houses 3,5,12 denotes the life after marriage whether enjoyable or not.. In this case sexual union. There are people who do not enjoy good sexual life after marriage. So the houses for happy sexual life need not be houses for Marriage. For the question whether Marriage is there in life or not. If there is marriage in life, significators are derived and the time is arrived. Marriage muhurta is different from sexual union time. Sexual union need not be after Marriage can be before marriage also nowadays. After Marriage many select different illict way of life. If you think all the factors should be included then include 8th house also because it indicates the dowry. That cannot be done. So, if the question is "Is marriage destined or not" houses 2,7,11. If yes significator of 2,7,11 to arrive at the date and time of Marriage, simple. So please do not pollute the basic rules framed by our Guruji. Always stick to the basics. With Regards, Kp Follower. --- On Mon, 25/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, 25 August, 2008, 10:45 PM Dear Luther House 12 is bed comfort. So the house 12 also can be included for marriage. House 3 comes under kama trigon and veeria sthana. So the house 3 also can be included for marriage. Dhanabalan --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, August 25, 2008, 12:41 AM Respected Seniors, Sorry for intervention. . Now a days the incidence of love mrriages in increasing at a great pace. Therefore one has to first examine and either confirm or exclude a love mariage. Then only one should proceed to examine the significance of II, VII and XI. Secondly marriage is a life-time bondage between two lives i.e. person referning to Ascendant and person refering to VII. Therefore 2nd, 7th and 11th from the Ascendant and VII are to be given weitage. Therefore V and VIII are no doubt important in all cases. Invite comments. Kindly respond. With due regards. Dr. Luther Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSunday, August 24, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: KP as a science Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comCc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Dear Sahahsra Saagara Sir, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your compliments. I have noted down the other matters of 5th and 8th Houses. Thanks again.With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86Re: KP as a science Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 8:10 PM Dear MK Scientifically explained. 5,8,12 have more different points . 5th entertainment, love,art, music..8th benefit to others, for common people. 12th loss to native,change of place, moksha,hospital, away from the society Sahahsra Saagara--- On Thu, 28/8/08, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ > wrote: Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comThursday, 28 August, 2008, 1:11 PM Dear Dhanabalan Sir, Can we add 6th House also? because it is 12th from 7th. Bedcomfort for spouse. When you take bedcomfort for Lagna, there must be bedcomfort for 7th (Spouse) also. Then, should we consider 2,7,11, 5,8,12 and 6 also for one's marriage? Oh, come on, friends! Let us just laugh it out and be serious with rules. We know 6th will negate or deny marriage indicated by 7th House. Get the below rules into your minds and accept the logic behind it. If your Lagna Significator confirms 7+11 Houses. you are destined to marry someone (legal bondage). If your 7th House significator confirms 2+11 Houses, then through your spouse, your family strength gets increased. (You get your family.) If your 7th House significator confirms 5+8+11 houses, through your spouse, you get sexual pleasure. 5th House= pleasure to your five senses or bodily plesure. 8th House= your sexual organ or drive (Kama). 11th House=gain or fulfilment of desires. 12 House is not absolutely necessary. It's only suppementary here. (Sex can be had in many ways, even out of bed also!!!) 12 th House = bed comfort just means any kind of pleasure you get in your bed (a good sleep)or on your bed (sleeping with somebody).Just the pleasure of lying down comfortablly "AARAMSE" = Bodily rest. 12th House = Moksha House - the final rest for our physical body. 12th House can also mean disappointment or pain due to displeasure with sexual mate. (Watch out! Things may not always happen as we wish). Next, 8+5 = 2+11 from 7th House. That is your spouse's family life. That need not abolutely be with the Native alone. She can very well have an open or secret family man other than the native if ever she wants it. This does not count for a native's destiny. Each is destined as shown by his Lagna point, including having a mate for marriage(sex) or not. In a native's chart, any matter of his own destiny should be derived only with reference to Lagna and not with 7th House. So, strictly 2+7+11 are the Houses to be considered for a Native's married life. 5+8+12 Houses support the purpose of marriage - i.e. SEX. Okay? With thanks and warm regards,Mohan Kumar.R.Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, August 28, 2008 7:59:02 AMRe: KP as a science Dear All, The houses 2,7,11 is enough for marriage. Houses 3,5,12 denotes the life after marriage whether enjoyable or not.. In this case sexual union. There are people who do not enjoy good sexual life after marriage. So the houses for happy sexual life need not be houses for Marriage. For the question whether Marriage is there in life or not. If there is marriage in life, significators are derived and the time is arrived. Marriage muhurta is different from sexual union time. Sexual union need not be after Marriage can be before marriage also nowadays. After Marriage many select different illict way of life. If you think all the factors should be included then include 8th house also because it indicates the dowry. That cannot be done. So, if the question is "Is marriage destined or not" houses 2,7,11. If yes significator of 2,7,11 to arrive at the date and time of Marriage, simple. So please do not pollute the basic rules framed by our Guruji. Always stick to the basics. With Regards, Kp Follower. --- On Mon, 25/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, 25 August, 2008, 10:45 PM Dear Luther House 12 is bed comfort. So the house 12 also can be included for marriage. House 3 comes under kama trigon and veeria sthana. So the house 3 also can be included for marriage. Dhanabalan --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, August 25, 2008, 12:41 AM Respected Seniors, Sorry for intervention. . Now a days the incidence of love mrriages in increasing at a great pace. Therefore one has to first examine and either confirm or exclude a love mariage. Then only one should proceed to examine the significance of II, VII and XI. Secondly marriage is a life-time bondage between two lives i.e. person referning to Ascendant and person refering to VII. Therefore 2nd, 7th and 11th from the Ascendant and VII are to be given weitage. Therefore V and VIII are no doubt important in all cases. Invite comments. Kindly respond. With due regards. Dr. Luther Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSunday, August 24, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: KP as a science Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comCc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Dear Mk please do research on "bank employee" or service in Hospital as all bank employee will not be manager or clerck and those who wrk in Hospital may not be doctors. A factory will have Chairman, manager, supervisor, engineer, employee etc. Sahhasra Saagara--- On Mon, 1/9/08, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology wrote: Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrologyRe: KP as a science Date: Monday, 1 September, 2008, 8:51 AM Dear Sahahsra Saagara Sir, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your compliments. I have noted down the other matters of 5th and 8th Houses. Thanks again.With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comThursday, August 28, 2008, 8:10 PM Dear MK Scientifically explained. 5,8,12 have more different points . 5th entertainment, love,art, music..8th benefit to others, for common people. 12th loss to native,change of place, moksha,hospital, away from the society Sahahsra Saagara--- On Thu, 28/8/08, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ > wrote: Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comThursday, 28 August, 2008, 1:11 PM Dear Dhanabalan Sir, Can we add 6th House also? because it is 12th from 7th. Bedcomfort for spouse. When you take bedcomfort for Lagna, there must be bedcomfort for 7th (Spouse) also. Then, should we consider 2,7,11, 5,8,12 and 6 also for one's marriage? Oh, come on, friends! Let us just laugh it out and be serious with rules. We know 6th will negate or deny marriage indicated by 7th House. Get the below rules into your minds and accept the logic behind it. If your Lagna Significator confirms 7+11 Houses. you are destined to marry someone (legal bondage). If your 7th House significator confirms 2+11 Houses, then through your spouse, your family strength gets increased. (You get your family.) If your 7th House significator confirms 5+8+11 houses, through your spouse, you get sexual pleasure. 5th House= pleasure to your five senses or bodily plesure. 8th House= your sexual organ or drive (Kama). 11th House=gain or fulfilment of desires. 12 House is not absolutely necessary. It's only suppementary here. (Sex can be had in many ways, even out of bed also!!!) 12 th House = bed comfort just means any kind of pleasure you get in your bed (a good sleep)or on your bed (sleeping with somebody).Just the pleasure of lying down comfortablly "AARAMSE" = Bodily rest. 12th House = Moksha House - the final rest for our physical body. 12th House can also mean disappointment or pain due to displeasure with sexual mate. (Watch out! Things may not always happen as we wish). Next, 8+5 = 2+11 from 7th House. That is your spouse's family life. That need not abolutely be with the Native alone. She can very well have an open or secret family man other than the native if ever she wants it. This does not count for a native's destiny. Each is destined as shown by his Lagna point, including having a mate for marriage(sex) or not. In a native's chart, any matter of his own destiny should be derived only with reference to Lagna and not with 7th House. So, strictly 2+7+11 are the Houses to be considered for a Native's married life. 5+8+12 Houses support the purpose of marriage - i.e. SEX. Okay? With thanks and warm regards,Mohan Kumar.R.Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, August 28, 2008 7:59:02 AMRe: KP as a science Dear All, The houses 2,7,11 is enough for marriage. Houses 3,5,12 denotes the life after marriage whether enjoyable or not.. In this case sexual union. There are people who do not enjoy good sexual life after marriage. So the houses for happy sexual life need not be houses for Marriage. For the question whether Marriage is there in life or not. If there is marriage in life, significators are derived and the time is arrived. Marriage muhurta is different from sexual union time. Sexual union need not be after Marriage can be before marriage also nowadays. After Marriage many select different illict way of life. If you think all the factors should be included then include 8th house also because it indicates the dowry. That cannot be done. So, if the question is "Is marriage destined or not" houses 2,7,11. If yes significator of 2,7,11 to arrive at the date and time of Marriage, simple. So please do not pollute the basic rules framed by our Guruji. Always stick to the basics. With Regards, Kp Follower. --- On Mon, 25/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, 25 August, 2008, 10:45 PM Dear Luther House 12 is bed comfort. So the house 12 also can be included for marriage. House 3 comes under kama trigon and veeria sthana. So the house 3 also can be included for marriage. Dhanabalan --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, August 25, 2008, 12:41 AM Respected Seniors, Sorry for intervention. . Now a days the incidence of love mrriages in increasing at a great pace. Therefore one has to first examine and either confirm or exclude a love mariage. Then only one should proceed to examine the significance of II, VII and XI. Secondly marriage is a life-time bondage between two lives i.e. person referning to Ascendant and person refering to VII. Therefore 2nd, 7th and 11th from the Ascendant and VII are to be given weitage. Therefore V and VIII are no doubt important in all cases. Invite comments. Kindly respond. With due regards. Dr. Luther Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSunday, August 24, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: KP as a science Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comCc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Dear Saagara Sir, Thank you for the hint. Let me take these things into my study, as I have been included in the M9 category group of reasearch "Profession-New Areas".Of course, this will be a great service to our Guruji and his principles and to the science of astrology. May be I will need more time for these, which I hope to get. God be with us.With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025--- On Mon, 9/1/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86Re: KP as a science Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 6:26 AM Dear Mk please do research on "bank employee" or service in Hospital as all bank employee will not be manager or clerck and those who wrk in Hospital may not be doctors. A factory will have Chairman, manager, supervisor, engineer, employee etc. Sahhasra Saagara--- On Mon, 1/9/08, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ > wrote: Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, 1 September, 2008, 8:51 AM Dear Sahahsra Saagara Sir, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your compliments. I have noted down the other matters of 5th and 8th Houses. Thanks again.With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comThursday, August 28, 2008, 8:10 PM Dear MK Scientifically explained. 5,8,12 have more different points . 5th entertainment, love,art, music...8th benefit to others, for common people. 12th loss to native,change of place, moksha,hospital, away from the society Sahahsra Saagara--- On Thu, 28/8/08, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ > wrote: Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comThursday, 28 August, 2008, 1:11 PM Dear Dhanabalan Sir, Can we add 6th House also? because it is 12th from 7th. Bedcomfort for spouse. When you take bedcomfort for Lagna, there must be bedcomfort for 7th (Spouse) also. Then, should we consider 2,7,11, 5,8,12 and 6 also for one's marriage? Oh, come on, friends! Let us just laugh it out and be serious with rules. We know 6th will negate or deny marriage indicated by 7th House. Get the below rules into your minds and accept the logic behind it. If your Lagna Significator confirms 7+11 Houses. you are destined to marry someone (legal bondage). If your 7th House significator confirms 2+11 Houses, then through your spouse, your family strength gets increased. (You get your family.) If your 7th House significator confirms 5+8+11 houses, through your spouse, you get sexual pleasure. 5th House= pleasure to your five senses or bodily plesure. 8th House= your sexual organ or drive (Kama). 11th House=gain or fulfilment of desires. 12 House is not absolutely necessary. It's only suppementary here. (Sex can be had in many ways, even out of bed also!!!) 12 th House = bed comfort just means any kind of pleasure you get in your bed (a good sleep)or on your bed (sleeping with somebody).Just the pleasure of lying down comfortablly "AARAMSE" = Bodily rest. 12th House = Moksha House - the final rest for our physical body. 12th House can also mean disappointment or pain due to displeasure with sexual mate. (Watch out! Things may not always happen as we wish). Next, 8+5 = 2+11 from 7th House. That is your spouse's family life. That need not abolutely be with the Native alone. She can very well have an open or secret family man other than the native if ever she wants it. This does not count for a native's destiny. Each is destined as shown by his Lagna point, including having a mate for marriage(sex) or not. In a native's chart, any matter of his own destiny should be derived only with reference to Lagna and not with 7th House. So, strictly 2+7+11 are the Houses to be considered for a Native's married life. 5+8+12 Houses support the purpose of marriage - i.e. SEX. Okay? With thanks and warm regards,Mohan Kumar.R.Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 muthuram kumar <muthuramkmr@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, August 28, 2008 7:59:02 AMRe: KP as a science Dear All, The houses 2,7,11 is enough for marriage. Houses 3,5,12 denotes the life after marriage whether enjoyable or not... In this case sexual union. There are people who do not enjoy good sexual life after marriage. So the houses for happy sexual life need not be houses for Marriage. For the question whether Marriage is there in life or not. If there is marriage in life, significators are derived and the time is arrived. Marriage muhurta is different from sexual union time. Sexual union need not be after Marriage can be before marriage also nowadays. After Marriage many select different illict way of life. If you think all the factors should be included then include 8th house also because it indicates the dowry. That cannot be done. So, if the question is "Is marriage destined or not" houses 2,7,11. If yes significator of 2,7,11 to arrive at the date and time of Marriage, simple. So please do not pollute the basic rules framed by our Guruji. Always stick to the basics. With Regards, Kp Follower. --- On Mon, 25/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, 25 August, 2008, 10:45 PM Dear Luther House 12 is bed comfort. So the house 12 also can be included for marriage. House 3 comes under kama trigon and veeria sthana. So the house 3 also can be included for marriage. Dhanabalan --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comMonday, August 25, 2008, 12:41 AM Respected Seniors, Sorry for intervention. . Now a days the incidence of love mrriages in increasing at a great pace. Therefore one has to first examine and either confirm or exclude a love mariage. Then only one should proceed to examine the significance of II, VII and XI. Secondly marriage is a life-time bondage between two lives i.e. person referning to Ascendant and person refering to VII. Therefore 2nd, 7th and 11th from the Ascendant and VII are to be given weitage. Therefore V and VIII are no doubt important in all cases. Invite comments. Kindly respond. With due regards. Dr. Luther Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSunday, August 24, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: KP as a science Dear Yogesh Rao If the query is about marriage, whether the moon and Asc sublord to signify either 2 or 7 or 11. Or at a time all the 2,7 and 11 houses are to be signified for male and all the 2,7,8 and 11 houses for female. Please clarify my doubt. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP as a science@gro ups.comCc: "khandekar_neelesh" <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sunday, August 24, 2008, 6:23 AM Dear Neelesh, In horary K.P.,if the Moon(representing the mind) signifies houses which govern the matter to be examined...for example...if the query is about marriage...it is recommended that one should first see whether the Moon signifies II,VII,XI ( & also V for love-marriage, if a female then the VIIIth also,for Maangalya),and, .... if the s/l of the Ascendant also signifies marriage, the urge is confirmed...after such a confirmation is obtained alone, should one proceed with the detailed analysis... Thus...both need to be examined carefully,in my humble opinion... With besr wishes, L.Y.Rao. khandekar_neelesh <nkhandekar (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, 24 August, 2008 3:45:44 AM KP as a science Dear Members,I have been following all postings by learned members….Mr. Dhanabalanji, had said in one of his postings "How to measure URGE". I would like to say that urge is the property of the MIND and cannot be measured. Can anyone measure LOVE ???. I follow Guruji Hasbe's teaching and he has said in his books in Marathi, that, if the querist has the URGE he will always get the right answer. My 2 cents,,, take it or leave it….Best regards,- Neelesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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