If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person

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Two method can be use to predict victory of a sport person

one as per Horary chart fixing ixth cusp as lagna of the person.

Secondly Sun ingress sign of th eperticular month and game.

first will give very accurate result later will give nearest link.

Sahhasra Saagara --- On Fri, 22/8/08, hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote:

hardeep singh <bkhardeepRe: sports_virendra- why failure! Date: Friday, 22 August, 2008, 6:52 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear swami ji,

 

there is nothing fault in any system.

it is fault in our application.

 

the failure of predictions is due to jump at conclusions with hurry.

 

where strong urge is very important factor, at the same time i became attached with india's victory.

 

so astrologer should remain unaffected by favourable or unfavourable results.

 

why i fail, i think because transit in my natal chart goes against it also. for accurate predictions astrologer should also have good time. i have seen long quese waiting for astrologer who dont have scientific approach or explanation.

 

regards

hs nagi--- On Fri, 8/22/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> sports_virendra- why failure!@gro ups.comFriday, August 22, 2008, 4:57 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

It is sad that sports results are going against predictions. In recent past on two occasions Methods of KP, TSP were employed but incorrect results; call for serious attention.

Sri H.S.Negi a senior KP expert admitted wrong Judgment in light of Mr Khullars explanation and Mr Antriksha employed correct methodology as taught in Nakshatra chintamini but method yielded incorrect results.

Now question is what should be correct working rules?

Can KP answer such simple matters in day to day life? Just My Thinking Nakshatra Chinamani method requires two conditions. Cuspal SUB LORD of XI and VI (Both) should occupy any house out of ASC ,II & Upachaya house) AND BE IN STAR OF Occupant OF THE HOUSE ASC,II, upchaya. This is examined for both contestants’ .ASC represents the side on behalf of which query is solved) Writing of Mr. Antariksh does not suggest, It was a self question although it could be. For self question, method may not work For lack of interest in said sport and or not being A serious concern. It could be a test question? Was there a strong urge? Was it not a test question, to see if Method work? Only Mr Antariksh can throw light. No it is not criticism, just thinking why application of KP should fail. Any idea? FOR Competition Houses VI is primary XI is secondary. Moon was not a significator of VI Nor V ( sports) Of course it was type C significator of XI showing desire to win! Moon was in constellation of Mercury. What matters MERC signify V and VIII. by star lord ship and VII by placement. It appears a test question. Why divine should answer it? Coming to Dr H.S.Negi attempt, Win in litigation or election: 6, 11 It was not a case of wining in litigation.It was not election. Hope my thinking is not offending. I will appreciate if Reasons of failure are thought out, paving a way to correct understanding and application. Awaiting insights if possible. Swami_rcs Original Message ----Antariksh <antariksh_80@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:41:03 PM Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final? Dear all,Today is really a big day for Indian sports! I would like to CONGRATULATE Mr. Sushil Kumar and Mr. Vijender Kumar for their success in Beijing Olympics. We're really proud of you guys!As Mr. Vijender goes into semifinals, the question whether he would win it and enter into Final is now in everyone's mind. So I'm using Horary to see what the result could be for the semifinal match scheduled on Aug 22, 2008.************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *Om Shreem Hreem Kleem Namah************ *********

********* ********* ********* *Query: Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final?Horary Number: 92 DOJ: August 20, 2008 TOJ: 09:58:01PM POJ: 88:24:32 E / 22:36:39 N I'm using the method described in Nakshtra Chintamani (pg.154) by Chandrakant R. Bhatt:In cases of competition and contest between two rival parties in any walk of life viz. cricket match etc., if the Cuspal sub lord of the 11th and that of the 6th occupy the house 1,2,3,6,10 or 11 and be in the star of the occupant of the houses 1,2,3,6,10 or 11, the team under query will win. Here 1,2,3,...,11, 12 indicate houses considered for Mr. Vijender, whereas I, II, III,...,XI, XII indicate houses considered for his opposition. Mr. Vijender's (VJ) 7th cusp is taken as the Ascendant (house I) for his rival (OP).i.e. - VJ - OP1 - VII2 - VIII3 - IX4 - X5 - XI6 - XII7 - I8 - II9 - III10 - IV11 - V12 - VIPlease refer to the file section for the chart used. Analysis for Vijender: ------------ --------- ------6th cusp sub-lord: Rahu;Rahu is in 6th cusp;Rahu is in star of Mars; Mars is in 1st cusp;[Rahu is in sub of Rahu; Rahu is in 6th cusp;]11th cusp sub-lord: Saturn;Saturn is in 1st cusp;Saturn is in star of Venus; Venus is in 1st cusp;[saturn is in sub of Moon; Moon is in 8th cusp;]Therefore the planetary positions are in favor of Vijender.Analysis for Vijender's opposition:------------ --------- --------- --------- --VI cusp sub-lord: Mars;Mars is in VII cusp;

Mars is in star of Sun; Sun is in VI cusp;[Mars is in sub of Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;]XI cusp sub-lord: Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;Mercury is in star of Venus; Venus is in VII cusp;[Mercury is in sub of Saturn; Saturn is in VII cusp;]Therefore the planetary positions are NOT in favor of Vijender's opposition.In view of the above position, Mr. Vijender Kumar should win the Semifinal match and go to the Final.Wishing him Best of luck!!!Regards,Antariksh

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, bkhardeep <bkhardeep > wrote:

number given- 217 ( 1 to 249 ) time 8-17 am IST, date 22, 08 , 08, place- Ludhiana / India yes, India will win . whether querry is genuine ? moon is lord of 6 and in star of ketu. ketu in 6. so querry is genuine. rule- if 6th cusp is a strong significator of 6 or 10 or 11 the person will win. here 6th cusp falls in cancer at 10- 52, moon sign- saturn star- and sun sub. what will sun do ? sun does not have PS. at stellar level, sun is in star of ketu. ketu is in 6. so sun is a stro0ng significator of 6. result = victory comments are welcome before competition. regards hs nagi it was me who analysed the chart wrong, i got feed back by mr. khullar in some other group before the match as under- Dear Nagi,The fundamental principle in Astrology (whether Natal or Horary) states that the native only gets that what is promised by Ascendant. In your analysis you never take into consideration this.More over You also do not take into consideration the role of the Sub lord of the Sub lord.I think in Horary even if the Ascendant and Primary cusp promises even then the result may not positive unless the 11th cusp confirms.If you look at your analsis you say Sub lord of 6th cusp is in Ketu Star who is placed in 6 so the native will have victory.Please note Sun in Ketu Star is as good as in

Mercury Star because Ketu represents Mercury. In this chart Mercury is Lord of 5 (11th from 7-the opponent).Mercury is placed in 7.Here you may feel that it signifies victory for the opponent.The Sub lord of the 12th cusp (that is 6th from 7) is Venus who is in Venus Star. Thus Venus has PS. Venus is also the Sub lord of the 5th cusp and 7th cusp.Thus Venus signifies 1, 6 and 11 from 7.Just think who will win?I have only tried to place views as per KP which incidentally have many limitations.Regards,SP Khullar

Unfortunately Vijender/ India lost today. We have a long way to go as far as sports predictions are concerned.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om,

In first method,IX is sports person so querent could be someone not related to querest?, if so which KP rule apply to judge sport?

with regards.

Any worked out examplesay in A & A or else where?

 

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Friday, August 22, 2008 11:28 PM

If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi

Two method can be use to predict victory of a sport person

one as per Horary chart fixing ixth cusp as lagna of the person.

Secondly Sun ingress sign of th eperticular month and game.

first will give very accurate result later will give nearest link.

Sahhasra Saagara --- On Fri, 22/8/08, hardeep singh <bkhardeep > wrote:

hardeep singh <bkhardeep >Re: sports_virendra- why failure! Date: Friday, 22 August, 2008, 6:52 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear swami ji,

 

there is nothing fault in any system.

it is fault in our application.

 

the failure of predictions is due to jump at conclusions with hurry.

 

where strong urge is very important factor, at the same time i became attached with india's victory.

 

so astrologer should remain unaffected by favourable or unfavourable results.

 

why i fail, i think because transit in my natal chart goes against it also. for accurate predictions astrologer should also have good time. i have seen long quese waiting for astrologer who dont have scientific approach or explanation.

 

regards

hs nagi--- On Fri, 8/22/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> sports_virendra- why failure!@gro ups.comFriday, August 22, 2008, 4:57 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

It is sad that sports results are going against predictions. In recent past on two occasions Methods of KP, TSP were employed but incorrect results; call for serious attention.

Sri H.S.Negi a senior KP expert admitted wrong Judgment in light of Mr Khullars explanation and Mr Antriksha employed correct methodology as taught in Nakshatra chintamini but method yielded incorrect results.

 

 

Now question is what should be correct working rules?

 

Can KP answer such simple matters in day to day life? Just My Thinking Nakshatra Chinamani method requires two conditions. Cuspal SUB LORD of XI and VI (Both) should occupy any house out of ASC ,II & Upachaya house) AND BE IN STAR OF Occupant OF THE HOUSE ASC,II, upchaya. This is examined for both contestants’ .ASC represents the side on behalf of which query is solved) Writing of Mr. Antariksh does not suggest, It was a self question although it could be. For self question, method may not work For lack of interest in said sport and or not being A serious concern. It could be a test question? Was there a strong urge? Was it not a test question, to see if Method work? Only Mr Antariksh can throw light. No it is not criticism, just thinking why application of KP should fail. Any idea? FOR Competition Houses VI is primary XI is secondary. Moon was not a significator of VI Nor V ( sports) Of course it was type C significator of XI showing desire to win! Moon was in constellation of Mercury. What matters MERC signify V and VIII. by star lord ship and VII by placement. It appears a test question. Why divine should answer it? Coming to Dr H.S.Negi attempt, Win in litigation or election: 6, 11 It was not a case of wining in litigation.It was not election. Hope my thinking is not offending. I will appreciate if Reasons of failure are thought out, paving a way to correct understanding and application. Awaiting insights if possible. Swami_rcs Original Message ----Antariksh <antariksh_80@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:41:03 PM Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final? Dear all,Today is really a big day for Indian sports! I would like to CONGRATULATE Mr. Sushil Kumar and Mr. Vijender Kumar for their success in Beijing Olympics. We're really proud of you guys!As Mr. Vijender goes into semifinals, the question whether he would win it and enter into Final is now in everyone's mind. So I'm using Horary to see what the result could be for the semifinal match scheduled on Aug 22, 2008.************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *Om Shreem Hreem Kleem Namah************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *Query: Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final?Horary Number: 92 DOJ: August 20, 2008 TOJ: 09:58:01PM POJ: 88:24:32 E / 22:36:39 N I'm using the method described in Nakshtra Chintamani (pg.154) by Chandrakant R. Bhatt:In cases of competition and contest between two rival parties in any walk of life viz. cricket match etc., if the Cuspal sub lord of the 11th and that of the 6th occupy the house 1,2,3,6,10 or 11 and be in the star of the occupant of the houses 1,2,3,6,10 or 11, the team under query will win. Here 1,2,3,...,11, 12 indicate houses considered for Mr. Vijender, whereas I, II, III,...,XI, XII indicate houses considered for his opposition. Mr. Vijender's (VJ) 7th cusp is taken as the Ascendant (house I) for his rival (OP).i.e. - VJ - OP1 - VII2 - VIII3 - IX4 - X5 - XI6 - XII7 - I8 - II9 - III10 - IV11 - V12 - VIPlease refer to the file section for the chart used. Analysis for Vijender: ------------ --------- ------6th cusp sub-lord: Rahu;Rahu is in 6th cusp;Rahu is in star of Mars; Mars is in 1st cusp;[Rahu is in sub of Rahu; Rahu is in 6th cusp;]11th cusp sub-lord: Saturn;Saturn is in 1st cusp;Saturn is in star of Venus; Venus is in 1st cusp;[saturn is in sub of Moon; Moon is in 8th cusp;]Therefore the planetary positions are in favor of Vijender.Analysis for Vijender's opposition:------------ --------- --------- --------- --VI cusp sub-lord: Mars;Mars is in VII cusp;

Mars is in star of Sun; Sun is in VI cusp;[Mars is in sub of Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;]XI cusp sub-lord: Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;Mercury is in star of Venus; Venus is in VII cusp;[Mercury is in sub of Saturn; Saturn is in VII cusp;]Therefore the planetary positions are NOT in favor of Vijender's opposition.In view of the above position, Mr. Vijender Kumar should win the Semifinal match and go to the Final.Wishing him Best of luck!!!Regards,Antariksh

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, bkhardeep <bkhardeep > wrote:

number given- 217 ( 1 to 249 ) time 8-17 am IST, date 22, 08 , 08, place- Ludhiana / India yes, India will win . whether querry is genuine ? moon is lord of 6 and in star of ketu. ketu in 6. so querry is genuine. rule- if 6th cusp is a strong significator of 6 or 10 or 11 the person will win. here 6th cusp falls in cancer at 10- 52, moon sign- saturn star- and sun sub. what will sun do ? sun does not have PS. at stellar level, sun is in star of ketu. ketu is in 6. so sun is a stro0ng significator of 6. result = victory comments are welcome before competition. regards hs nagi it was me who analysed the chart wrong, i got feed back by mr. khullar in some other group before the match as under- Dear Nagi,The fundamental principle in Astrology (whether Natal or Horary) states that the native only gets that what is promised by Ascendant. In your analysis you never take into consideration this.More over You also do not take into consideration the role of the Sub lord of the Sub lord.I think in Horary even if the Ascendant and Primary cusp promises even then the result may not positive unless the 11th cusp confirms.If you look at your analsis you say Sub lord of 6th cusp is in Ketu Star who is placed in 6 so the native will have victory.Please note Sun in Ketu Star is as good as in Mercury Star because Ketu represents Mercury. In this chart Mercury is Lord of 5 (11th from 7-the opponent).Mercury is placed in 7.Here you may feel that it signifies victory for the opponent.The Sub lord of the 12th cusp (that is 6th from 7) is Venus who is in Venus Star. Thus Venus has PS. Venus is also the Sub lord of the 5th cusp and 7th cusp.Thus Venus signifies 1, 6 and 11 from 7.Just think who will win?I have only tried to place views as per KP which incidentally have many limitations.Regards,SP Khullar

Unfortunately Vijender/ India lost today. We have a long way to go as far as sports predictions are concerned.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

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Dear Sirs,

In my openion the Ascendant has to be rotated to IX cusp in horary.

 

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swami <swami Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:16:26 PMRe: If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person

 



|| Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om,

In first method,IX is sports person so querent could be someone not related to querest?, if so which KP rule apply to judge sport?

with regards.

Any worked out examplesay in A & A or else where?

 

OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

-

Sagar S

@gro ups.com

Friday, August 22, 2008 11:28 PM

If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi

Two method can be use to predict victory of a sport person

one as per Horary chart fixing ixth cusp as lagna of the person.

Secondly Sun ingress sign of th eperticular month and game.

first will give very accurate result later will give nearest link.

Sahhasra Saagara --- On Fri, 22/8/08, hardeep singh <bkhardeep > wrote:

hardeep singh <bkhardeep >Re: sports_virendra- why failure!@gro ups.comFriday, 22 August, 2008, 6:52 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear swami ji,

 

there is nothing fault in any system.

it is fault in our application.

 

the failure of predictions is due to jump at conclusions with hurry.

 

where strong urge is very important factor, at the same time i became attached with india's victory.

 

so astrologer should remain unaffected by favourable or unfavourable results.

 

why i fail, i think because transit in my natal chart goes against it also. for accurate predictions astrologer should also have good time. i have seen long quese waiting for astrologer who dont have scientific approach or explanation.

 

regards

hs nagi--- On Fri, 8/22/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> sports_virendra- why failure!@gro ups.comFriday, August 22, 2008, 4:57 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

It is sad that sports results are going against predictions. In recent past on two occasions Methods of KP, TSP were employed but incorrect results; call for serious attention.

Sri H.S.Negi a senior KP expert admitted wrong Judgment in light of Mr Khullars explanation and Mr Antriksha employed correct methodology as taught in Nakshatra chintamini but method yielded incorrect results.

 

 

Now question is what should be correct working rules?

Can KP answer such simple matters in day to day life? Just My Thinking Nakshatra Chinamani method requires two conditions. Cuspal SUB LORD of XI and VI (Both) should occupy any house out of ASC ,II & Upachaya house) AND BE IN STAR OF Occupant OF THE HOUSE ASC,II, upchaya. This is examined for both contestants’ .ASC represents the side on behalf of which query is solved) Writing of Mr. Antariksh does not suggest, It was a self question although it could be. For self question, method may not work For lack of interest in said sport and or not being A serious concern. It could be a test question? Was there a strong urge? Was it not a test question, to see if Method work? Only Mr Antariksh can throw light. No it is not criticism, just thinking why application of KP should fail. Any idea? FOR Competition Houses VI is primary XI is secondary. Moon was not a significator of VI Nor V ( sports) Of course it was type C significator of XI showing desire to win! Moon was in constellation of Mercury. What matters MERC signify V and VIII. by star lord ship and VII by placement. It appears a test question. Why divine should answer it? Coming to Dr H.S.Negi attempt, Win in litigation or election: 6, 11 It was not a case of wining in litigation.It was not election. Hope my thinking is not offending. I will appreciate if Reasons of failure are thought out, paving a way to correct understanding and application. Awaiting insights if possible. Swami_rcs

 

 

Original Message ----Antariksh <antariksh_80@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:41:03 PM Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final? Dear all,Today is really a big day for Indian sports! I would like to CONGRATULATE Mr. Sushil Kumar and Mr. Vijender Kumar for their success in Beijing Olympics. We're really proud of you guys!As Mr. Vijender goes into semifinals, the question whether he would win it and enter into Final is now in everyone's mind. So I'm using Horary to see what the result could be for the semifinal match scheduled on Aug 22, 2008.************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *Om Shreem Hreem Kleem Namah************ *********

********* ********* ********* *Query: Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final?Horary Number: 92 DOJ: August 20, 2008 TOJ: 09:58:01PM POJ: 88:24:32 E / 22:36:39 N I'm using the method described in Nakshtra Chintamani (pg.154) by Chandrakant R. Bhatt:In cases of competition and contest between two rival parties in any walk of life viz. cricket match etc., if the Cuspal sub lord of the 11th and that of the 6th occupy the house 1,2,3,6,10 or 11 and be in the star of the occupant of the houses 1,2,3,6,10 or 11, the team under query will win. Here 1,2,3,...,11, 12 indicate houses considered for Mr. Vijender, whereas I, II, III,...,XI, XII indicate houses considered for his opposition. Mr. Vijender's (VJ) 7th cusp is taken as the Ascendant (house I) for his rival (OP).i.e. - VJ - OP1 - VII2 - VIII3 - IX4 - X5 - XI6 - XII7 - I8 - II9 - III10 - IV11 - V12 - VIPlease refer to the file section for the chart used. Analysis for Vijender: ------------ --------- ------6th cusp sub-lord: Rahu;Rahu is in 6th cusp;Rahu is in star of Mars; Mars is in 1st cusp;[Rahu is in sub of Rahu; Rahu is in 6th cusp;]11th cusp sub-lord: Saturn;Saturn is in 1st cusp;Saturn is in star of Venus; Venus is in 1st cusp;[saturn is in sub of Moon; Moon is in 8th cusp;]Therefore the planetary positions are in favor of Vijender.Analysis for Vijender's opposition:------------ --------- --------- --------- --VI cusp sub-lord: Mars;Mars is in VII cusp;

Mars is in star of Sun; Sun is in VI cusp;[Mars is in sub of Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;]XI cusp sub-lord: Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;Mercury is in star of Venus; Venus is in VII cusp;[Mercury is in sub of Saturn; Saturn is in VII cusp;]Therefore the planetary positions are NOT in favor of Vijender's opposition.In view of the above position, Mr. Vijender Kumar should win the Semifinal match and go to the Final.Wishing him Best of luck!!!Regards,Antariksh

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, bkhardeep <bkhardeep > wrote:

number given- 217 ( 1 to 249 ) time 8-17 am IST, date 22, 08 , 08, place- Ludhiana / India

yes, India will win .

whether querry is genuine ?

moon is lord of 6 and in star of ketu. ketu in 6. so querry is genuine.

rule- if 6th cusp is a strong significator of 6 or 10 or 11 the person will win.

here 6th cusp falls in cancer at 10- 52, moon sign- saturn star- and sun sub.

 

what will sun do ?

sun does not have PS.

at stellar level, sun is in star of ketu. ketu is in 6.

so sun is a stro0ng significator of 6.

result = victory

comments are welcome before competition.

regards hs nagi it was me who analysed the chart wrong,

i got feed back by mr. khullar in some other group before the match as under-

Dear Nagi,The fundamental principle in Astrology (whether Natal or Horary) states that the native only gets that what is promised by Ascendant. In your analysis you never take into consideration this.More over You also do not take into consideration the role of the Sub lord of the Sub lord.I think in Horary even if the Ascendant and Primary cusp promises even then the result may not positive unless the 11th cusp confirms.If you look at your analsis you say Sub lord of 6th cusp is in Ketu Star who is placed in 6 so the native will have victory.Please note Sun in Ketu Star is as good as in

Mercury Star because Ketu represents Mercury. In this chart Mercury is Lord of 5 (11th from 7-the opponent).Mercury is placed in 7.Here you may feel that it signifies victory for the opponent.The Sub lord of the 12th cusp (that is 6th from 7) is Venus who is in Venus Star. Thus Venus has PS. Venus is also the Sub lord of the 5th cusp and 7th cusp.Thus Venus signifies 1, 6 and 11 from 7.Just think who will win?I have only tried to place views as per KP which incidentally have many limitations.Regards,SP Khullar

 

Unfortunately Vijender/ India lost today. We have a long way to go as far as sports predictions are concerned.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

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Dear Swami,

I agree with you completely...i might also add that in addition to "jumping to a conclusion"...

"subjective thinking" also playa a fairly major role in predictions going awry...

With kind regards,

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swami <swami Sent: Saturday, 23 August, 2008 12:46:26 AMRe: If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person

 



|| Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om,

In first method,IX is sports person so querent could be someone not related to querest?, if so which KP rule apply to judge sport?

with regards.

Any worked out examplesay in A & A or else where?

 

OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

-

Sagar S

@gro ups.com

Friday, August 22, 2008 11:28 PM

If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi

Two method can be use to predict victory of a sport person

one as per Horary chart fixing ixth cusp as lagna of the person.

Secondly Sun ingress sign of th eperticular month and game.

first will give very accurate result later will give nearest link.

Sahhasra Saagara --- On Fri, 22/8/08, hardeep singh <bkhardeep > wrote:

hardeep singh <bkhardeep >Re: sports_virendra- why failure!@gro ups.comFriday, 22 August, 2008, 6:52 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear swami ji,

 

there is nothing fault in any system.

it is fault in our application.

 

the failure of predictions is due to jump at conclusions with hurry.

 

where strong urge is very important factor, at the same time i became attached with india's victory.

 

so astrologer should remain unaffected by favourable or unfavourable results.

 

why i fail, i think because transit in my natal chart goes against it also. for accurate predictions astrologer should also have good time. i have seen long quese waiting for astrologer who dont have scientific approach or explanation.

 

regards

hs nagi--- On Fri, 8/22/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> sports_virendra- why failure!@gro ups.comFriday, August 22, 2008, 4:57 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

It is sad that sports results are going against predictions. In recent past on two occasions Methods of KP, TSP were employed but incorrect results; call for serious attention.

Sri H.S.Negi a senior KP expert admitted wrong Judgment in light of Mr Khullars explanation and Mr Antriksha employed correct methodology as taught in Nakshatra chintamini but method yielded incorrect results.

 

 

Now question is what should be correct working rules?

Can KP answer such simple matters in day to day life? Just My Thinking Nakshatra Chinamani method requires two conditions. Cuspal SUB LORD of XI and VI (Both) should occupy any house out of ASC ,II & Upachaya house) AND BE IN STAR OF Occupant OF THE HOUSE ASC,II, upchaya. This is examined for both contestants’ .ASC represents the side on behalf of which query is solved) Writing of Mr. Antariksh does not suggest, It was a self question although it could be. For self question, method may not work For lack of interest in said sport and or not being A serious concern. It could be a test question? Was there a strong urge? Was it not a test question, to see if Method work? Only Mr Antariksh can throw light. No it is not criticism, just thinking why application of KP should fail. Any idea? FOR Competition Houses VI is primary XI is secondary. Moon was not a significator of VI Nor V ( sports) Of course it was type C significator of XI showing desire to win! Moon was in constellation of Mercury. What matters MERC signify V and VIII. by star lord ship and VII by placement. It appears a test question. Why divine should answer it? Coming to Dr H.S.Negi attempt, Win in litigation or election: 6, 11 It was not a case of wining in litigation.It was not election. Hope my thinking is not offending. I will appreciate if Reasons of failure are thought out, paving a way to correct understanding and application. Awaiting insights if possible. Swami_rcs

 

 

Original Message ----Antariksh <antariksh_80@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:41:03 PM Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final? Dear all,Today is really a big day for Indian sports! I would like to CONGRATULATE Mr. Sushil Kumar and Mr. Vijender Kumar for their success in Beijing Olympics. We're really proud of you guys!As Mr. Vijender goes into semifinals, the question whether he would win it and enter into Final is now in everyone's mind. So I'm using Horary to see what the result could be for the semifinal match scheduled on Aug 22, 2008.************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *Om Shreem Hreem Kleem Namah************ *********

********* ********* ********* *Query: Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final?Horary Number: 92 DOJ: August 20, 2008 TOJ: 09:58:01PM POJ: 88:24:32 E / 22:36:39 N I'm using the method described in Nakshtra Chintamani (pg.154) by Chandrakant R. Bhatt:In cases of competition and contest between two rival parties in any walk of life viz. cricket match etc., if the Cuspal sub lord of the 11th and that of the 6th occupy the house 1,2,3,6,10 or 11 and be in the star of the occupant of the houses 1,2,3,6,10 or 11, the team under query will win. Here 1,2,3,...,11, 12 indicate houses considered for Mr. Vijender, whereas I, II, III,...,XI, XII indicate houses considered for his opposition. Mr. Vijender's (VJ) 7th cusp is taken as the Ascendant (house I) for his rival (OP).i.e. - VJ - OP1 - VII2 - VIII3 - IX4 - X5 - XI6 - XII7 - I8 - II9 - III10 - IV11 - V12 - VIPlease refer to the file section for the chart used. Analysis for Vijender: ------------ --------- ------6th cusp sub-lord: Rahu;Rahu is in 6th cusp;Rahu is in star of Mars; Mars is in 1st cusp;[Rahu is in sub of Rahu; Rahu is in 6th cusp;]11th cusp sub-lord: Saturn;Saturn is in 1st cusp;Saturn is in star of Venus; Venus is in 1st cusp;[saturn is in sub of Moon; Moon is in 8th cusp;]Therefore the planetary positions are in favor of Vijender.Analysis for Vijender's opposition:------------ --------- --------- --------- --VI cusp sub-lord: Mars;Mars is in VII cusp;

Mars is in star of Sun; Sun is in VI cusp;[Mars is in sub of Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;]XI cusp sub-lord: Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;Mercury is in star of Venus; Venus is in VII cusp;[Mercury is in sub of Saturn; Saturn is in VII cusp;]Therefore the planetary positions are NOT in favor of Vijender's opposition.In view of the above position, Mr. Vijender Kumar should win the Semifinal match and go to the Final.Wishing him Best of luck!!!Regards,Antariksh

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, bkhardeep <bkhardeep > wrote:

number given- 217 ( 1 to 249 ) time 8-17 am IST, date 22, 08 , 08, place- Ludhiana / India

yes, India will win .

whether querry is genuine ?

moon is lord of 6 and in star of ketu. ketu in 6. so querry is genuine.

rule- if 6th cusp is a strong significator of 6 or 10 or 11 the person will win.

here 6th cusp falls in cancer at 10- 52, moon sign- saturn star- and sun sub.

 

what will sun do ?

sun does not have PS.

at stellar level, sun is in star of ketu. ketu is in 6.

so sun is a stro0ng significator of 6.

result = victory

comments are welcome before competition.

regards hs nagi it was me who analysed the chart wrong,

i got feed back by mr. khullar in some other group before the match as under-

Dear Nagi,The fundamental principle in Astrology (whether Natal or Horary) states that the native only gets that what is promised by Ascendant. In your analysis you never take into consideration this.More over You also do not take into consideration the role of the Sub lord of the Sub lord.I think in Horary even if the Ascendant and Primary cusp promises even then the result may not positive unless the 11th cusp confirms.If you look at your analsis you say Sub lord of 6th cusp is in Ketu Star who is placed in 6 so the native will have victory.Please note Sun in Ketu Star is as good as in

Mercury Star because Ketu represents Mercury. In this chart Mercury is Lord of 5 (11th from 7-the opponent).Mercury is placed in 7.Here you may feel that it signifies victory for the opponent.The Sub lord of the 12th cusp (that is 6th from 7) is Venus who is in Venus Star. Thus Venus has PS. Venus is also the Sub lord of the 5th cusp and 7th cusp.Thus Venus signifies 1, 6 and 11 from 7.Just think who will win?I have only tried to place views as per KP which incidentally have many limitations.Regards,SP Khullar

 

Unfortunately Vijender/ India lost today. We have a long way to go as far as sports predictions are concerned.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

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Dear friends,

 

Nearly 3 yrs ago when the bug of ODIs affected India,

we attempted many horary predictions.

 

Between India and other 6/11 vs 5/12 cusp subs.

 

Between any 2 parties ( not India),9th cusp for the party You liked.

 

The success rate was between 75-80%.

 

In my opinion, if we are asking a question for some one, then 1st

rep you and 7th the querent.Hence taking 7th as Lagna, the results to

be worked out.For relatives respy houses ,for a friend, 11th.

 

 

All these are experimental,no guidelines with justifications.

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

>

> Dear Sirs,

> In my openion the Ascendant has to be rotated to IX cusp in horary.

> Dr. Luther

>

>

>

>

> swami <swami

>

> Friday, August 22, 2008 12:16:26 PM

> Re: If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown

person

>

>

> 

>  

>          || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

>  Hari Om,

> In first method,IX is sports person so querent could be someone not

related to querest?, if so which KP rule apply to judge sport?

> with regards.

> Any worked out examplesay in A & A or else where?

>  

>  OM TATSAT

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> Swami_RCS 

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being

who has

> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----

---- --

>

> -

> Sagar S

> @gro ups.com

> Friday, August 22, 2008 11:28 PM

> If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person

>

> Hi

> Two method can be use to predict victory of a sport person

> one as per Horary chart fixing ixth cusp as lagna of the person.

> Secondly Sun ingress sign of th eperticular month and game.

> first will give very accurate result later will give nearest link.

> Sahhasra Saagara 

>

> --- On Fri, 22/8/08, hardeep singh <bkhardeep > wrote:

>

> hardeep singh <bkhardeep >

> Re: sports_virendra- why failure!

> @gro ups.com

> Friday, 22 August, 2008, 6:52 PM

>

>

> dear swami ji,

>  

> there is nothing fault in any system.

> it is fault in our application.

>  

> the failure of predictions is due to jump at conclusions with hurry.

>  

> where strong urge is very important factor, at the same time i

became attached with india's victory.

>  

> so astrologer should remain unaffected by favourable or

unfavourable results.

>  

> why i fail, i think because transit in my natal chart goes against

it also.  for accurate predictions astrologer should also have good

time. i have seen long quese waiting for astrologer who dont have

scientific approach or explanation.

>  

> regards

> hs nagi

>

> --- On Fri, 8/22/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>

> sports_virendra- why failure!

> @gro ups.com

> Friday, August 22, 2008, 4:57 AM

>

>

> Dear friends,

> It is sad that sports results are going against predictions.  In

recent past on two occasions Methods of KP, TSP were employed but

incorrect results; call for   serious attention.

> Sri H.S.Negi a senior KP expert admitted wrong Judgment in light of

Mr Khullars explanation and Mr Antriksha employed correct methodology

as taught in Nakshatra chintamini but method yielded incorrect

results.

> Now question is what should be correct working rules?

> Can KP answer such simple matters in day to day life?

> Just My Thinking  Nakshatra Chinamani method requires two

conditions.

> Cuspal SUB LORD of XI and VI   (Both) should occupy any house out

of ASC ,II & Upachaya house)

> AND

> BE IN STAR OF Occupant OF THE HOUSE ASC,II, upchaya.

> This is examined for both contestants’ .ASC represents the side

on behalf of which query is solved)

> Writing of Mr. Antariksh does not suggest, It was a self question

although it could be.

> For self question, method may not work For lack of interest in said

sport and or not being  A serious concern. It could be a test

question?

> Was there a strong urge? Was it not a test question, to see if

Method work?

> Only Mr Antariksh can throw light.

> No it is not criticism, just thinking why application of KP should

fail.

> Any idea?

> FOR Competition Houses VI is primary XI is secondary.

> Moon was not a significator of VI Nor V ( sports)  Of course it

was  type C significator of XI showing desire to win!

> Moon was in constellation of Mercury. What matters MERC signify V

and VIII. by star lord ship and VII by placement.

> It appears a test question. Why divine should answer it?

> Coming to Dr H.S.Negi attempt,

> Win in litigation or election:6, 11

> It was not a case of wining in litigation.It was not election.

> Hope my thinking is not offending. I will appreciate if Reasons of

failure are thought out, paving a way to correct understanding and

application.

> Awaiting insights if possible.

> Swami_rcs

> Original Message ----

> Antariksh <antariksh_80@ >

> @gro ups.com Wednesday, August 20, 2008

11:41:03 PM

> Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics

Semifinal and enter into the Final?

> Dear all,

>

> Today is really a big day for Indian sports! I would like to

CONGRATULATE Mr. Sushil Kumar and Mr. Vijender Kumar for their

success in Beijing Olympics. We're really proud of you guys!

>

> As Mr. Vijender goes into semifinals, the question whether he would

win it and enter into Final is now in everyone's mind. So I'm using

Horary to see what the result could be for the semifinal match

scheduled on Aug 22, 2008.

>

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *

> Om Shreem Hreem Kleem Namah

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *

> Query: Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter

into the Final?

> Horary Number: 92  DOJ: August 20, 2008  TOJ: 09:58:01PM  POJ:

88:24:32 E / 22:36:39 N

> I'm using the method described in Nakshtra Chintamani (pg.154) by

Chandrakant R. Bhatt:

> In cases of competition and contest between two rival parties in

any walk of life viz. cricket match etc., if the Cuspal sub lord of

the 11th and that of the 6th occupy the house 1,2,3,6,10 or 11 and be

in the star of the occupant of the houses 1,2,3,6,10 or 11, the team

under query will win.

>

> Here 1,2,3,...,11, 12  indicate houses considered for Mr.

Vijender, whereas I, II, III,...,XI, XII indicate houses considered

for his opposition. Mr. Vijender's (VJ) 7th cusp is taken as the

Ascendant (house I) for his rival (OP).

> i.e. -

> VJ -  OP

> 1   -    VII

> 2   -    VIII

> 3   -    IX

> 4   -    X

> 5   -    XI

> 6   -    XII

> 7   -    I

> 8   -    II

> 9   -    III

> 10 -    IV

> 11 -    V

> 12  -   VI

>

> Please refer to the file section for the chart used. 

> Analysis for Vijender:   

> ------------ --------- ------

> 6th cusp sub-lord: Rahu;

> Rahu is in 6th cusp;

> Rahu is in star of Mars; Mars is in 1st cusp;

> [Rahu is in sub of Rahu; Rahu is in 6th cusp;]

>

> 11th cusp sub-lord: Saturn;

> Saturn is in 1st cusp;

> Saturn is in star of Venus; Venus is in 1st cusp;

> [saturn is in sub of Moon; Moon is in 8th cusp;]

>

> Therefore the planetary positions are in favor of Vijender.

>

>

> Analysis for Vijender's opposition:

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --

> VI cusp sub-lord: Mars;

> Mars is in VII cusp;

> Mars is in star of Sun; Sun is in VI cusp;

> [Mars is in sub of Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;]

>

> XI cusp sub-lord: Mercury;

> Mercury is in VII cusp;

> Mercury is in star of Venus; Venus is in VII cusp;

> [Mercury is in sub of Saturn; Saturn is in VII cusp;]

>

> Therefore the planetary positions are NOT in favor of Vijender's

opposition.

>

> In view of the above position, Mr. Vijender Kumar should win the

Semifinal match and go to the Final.

>

> Wishing him Best of luck!!!

>

> Regards,

> Antariksh

> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, bkhardeep <bkhardeep >

wrote:

>  

> number given- 217 ( 1  to 249 )

> time 8-17 am  IST, date 22, 08 , 08,   place-  Ludhiana /

India

> yes, India will win .

> whetherquerry is genuine ?

> moonis lord of 6 and in star of ketu. ketu in 6. so querry is

genuine.

> rule-

> if6th cusp is a strong significator of 6 or 10 or 11 the person

will win.

> here6th cusp falls in cancer  at 10- 52, moon sign- saturn star-

and sun sub.

> whatwill sun do ?

> sundoes not have  PS.

> atstellar level, sun is in star of ketu. ketu is in 6.

> sosun is a stro0ng significator of 6.

> result =  victory

> commentsare welcome before competition.

> regards

> hsnagi

> it was me who analysed the chart wrong,

> igot feed back by mr. khullar in some other group before the match

as under-

> Dear Nagi,

>

> The fundamental principle in Astrology (whether Natal or Horary)

states that the native only gets that what is promised by Ascendant.

In your analysis you never take into consideration this.

> More over You also do not take into consideration the role of the

Sub lord of the Sub lord.

> I think in Horary even if the Ascendant and Primary cusp promises

even then the result may not positive unless the 11th cusp confirms.

>

> If you look at your analsis you say Sub lord of 6th cusp is in Ketu

Star who is placed in 6 so the native will have victory.

>

> Please note Sun in Ketu Star is as good as in Mercury Star because

Ketu represents Mercury. In this chart Mercury is Lord of 5 (11th

from 7-the opponent).Mercury is placed in 7.

> Here you may feel that it signifies victory for the opponent.

>

> The Sub lord of the 12th cusp (that is 6th from 7) is Venus who is

in Venus Star. Thus Venus has PS. Venus is also the Sub lord of the

5th cusp and 7th cusp.Thus Venus signifies 1, 6 and 11 from 7.

> Just think who will win?

>

> I have only tried to place views as per KP which incidentally have

many limitations.

>

> Regards,

> SP Khullar

>  

> Unfortunately Vijender/ India lost today. We have a long way to go

as far as sports predictions are concerned.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>  

>  

>

>

> ________________________________

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Yes , we have to rotate to IX th , and analyse as lagna .

I got suceede in predicting the victory of BILL clinton in 1992 .

Sahhasra Saagara --- On Sat, 23/8/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person Date: Saturday, 23 August, 2008, 7:01 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sirs,

In my openion the Ascendant has to be rotated to IX cusp in horary.

 

Dr. Luther

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>@gro ups.comFriday, August 22, 2008 12:16:26 PMRe: If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person

 



|| Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om,

In first method,IX is sports person so querent could be someone not related to querest?, if so which KP rule apply to judge sport?

with regards.

Any worked out examplesay in A & A or else where?

 

OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

-

Sagar S

@gro ups.com

Friday, August 22, 2008 11:28 PM

If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi

Two method can be use to predict victory of a sport person

one as per Horary chart fixing ixth cusp as lagna of the person.

Secondly Sun ingress sign of th eperticular month and game.

first will give very accurate result later will give nearest link.

Sahhasra Saagara --- On Fri, 22/8/08, hardeep singh <bkhardeep > wrote:

hardeep singh <bkhardeep >Re: sports_virendra- why failure!@gro ups.comFriday, 22 August, 2008, 6:52 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear swami ji,

 

there is nothing fault in any system.

it is fault in our application.

 

the failure of predictions is due to jump at conclusions with hurry.

 

where strong urge is very important factor, at the same time i became attached with india's victory.

 

so astrologer should remain unaffected by favourable or unfavourable results.

 

why i fail, i think because transit in my natal chart goes against it also. for accurate predictions astrologer should also have good time. i have seen long quese waiting for astrologer who dont have scientific approach or explanation.

 

regards

hs nagi--- On Fri, 8/22/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> sports_virendra- why failure!@gro ups.comFriday, August 22, 2008, 4:57 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

It is sad that sports results are going against predictions. In recent past on two occasions Methods of KP, TSP were employed but incorrect results; call for serious attention.

Sri H.S.Negi a senior KP expert admitted wrong Judgment in light of Mr Khullars explanation and Mr Antriksha employed correct methodology as taught in Nakshatra chintamini but method yielded incorrect results.

 

 

Now question is what should be correct working rules?

Can KP answer such simple matters in day to day life? Just My Thinking Nakshatra Chinamani method requires two conditions. Cuspal SUB LORD of XI and VI (Both) should occupy any house out of ASC ,II & Upachaya house) AND BE IN STAR OF Occupant OF THE HOUSE ASC,II, upchaya. This is examined for both contestants’ .ASC represents the side on behalf of which query is solved) Writing of Mr. Antariksh does not suggest, It was a self question although it could be. For self question, method may not work For lack of interest in said sport and or not being A serious concern. It could be a test question? Was there a strong urge? Was it not a test question, to see if Method work? Only Mr Antariksh can throw light. No it is not criticism, just thinking why application of KP should fail. Any idea? FOR Competition Houses VI is primary XI is secondary. Moon was not a significator of VI Nor V ( sports) Of course it was type C significator of XI showing desire to win! Moon was in constellation of Mercury. What matters MERC signify V and VIII. by star lord ship and VII by placement. It appears a test question. Why divine should answer it? Coming to Dr H.S.Negi attempt, Win in litigation or election: 6, 11 It was not a case of wining in litigation.It was not election. Hope my thinking is not offending. I will appreciate if Reasons of failure are thought out, paving a way to correct understanding and application. Awaiting insights if possible. Swami_rcs

 

 

Original Message ----Antariksh <antariksh_80@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:41:03 PM Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final? Dear all,Today is really a big day for Indian sports! I would like to CONGRATULATE Mr. Sushil Kumar and Mr. Vijender Kumar for their success in Beijing Olympics. We're really proud of you guys!As Mr. Vijender goes into semifinals, the question whether he would win it and enter into Final is now in everyone's mind. So I'm using Horary to see what the result could be for the semifinal match scheduled on Aug 22, 2008.************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *Om Shreem Hreem Kleem Namah************ *********

********* ********* ********* *Query: Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final?Horary Number: 92 DOJ: August 20, 2008 TOJ: 09:58:01PM POJ: 88:24:32 E / 22:36:39 N I'm using the method described in Nakshtra Chintamani (pg.154) by Chandrakant R. Bhatt:In cases of competition and contest between two rival parties in any walk of life viz. cricket match etc., if the Cuspal sub lord of the 11th and that of the 6th occupy the house 1,2,3,6,10 or 11 and be in the star of the occupant of the houses 1,2,3,6,10 or 11, the team under query will win. Here 1,2,3,...,11, 12 indicate houses considered for Mr. Vijender, whereas I, II, III,...,XI, XII indicate houses considered for his opposition. Mr. Vijender's (VJ) 7th cusp is taken as the Ascendant (house I) for his rival (OP).i.e. - VJ - OP1 - VII2 - VIII3 - IX4 - X5 - XI6 - XII7 - I8 - II9 - III10 - IV11 - V12 - VIPlease refer to the file section for the chart used. Analysis for Vijender: ------------ --------- ------6th cusp sub-lord: Rahu;Rahu is in 6th cusp;Rahu is in star of Mars; Mars is in 1st cusp;[Rahu is in sub of Rahu; Rahu is in 6th cusp;]11th cusp sub-lord: Saturn;Saturn is in 1st cusp;Saturn is in star of Venus; Venus is in 1st cusp;[saturn is in sub of Moon; Moon is in 8th cusp;]Therefore the planetary positions are in favor of Vijender.Analysis for Vijender's opposition:------------ --------- --------- --------- --VI cusp sub-lord: Mars;Mars is in VII cusp;

Mars is in star of Sun; Sun is in VI cusp;[Mars is in sub of Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;]XI cusp sub-lord: Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;Mercury is in star of Venus; Venus is in VII cusp;[Mercury is in sub of Saturn; Saturn is in VII cusp;]Therefore the planetary positions are NOT in favor of Vijender's opposition.In view of the above position, Mr. Vijender Kumar should win the Semifinal match and go to the Final.Wishing him Best of luck!!!Regards,Antariksh

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, bkhardeep <bkhardeep > wrote:

number given- 217 ( 1 to 249 ) time 8-17 am IST, date 22, 08 , 08, place- Ludhiana / India

yes, India will win .

whether querry is genuine ?

moon is lord of 6 and in star of ketu. ketu in 6. so querry is genuine.

rule- if 6th cusp is a strong significator of 6 or 10 or 11 the person will win.

here 6th cusp falls in cancer at 10- 52, moon sign- saturn star- and sun sub.

 

what will sun do ?

sun does not have PS.

at stellar level, sun is in star of ketu. ketu is in 6.

so sun is a stro0ng significator of 6.

result = victory

comments are welcome before competition.

regards hs nagi it was me who analysed the chart wrong,

i got feed back by mr. khullar in some other group before the match as under-

Dear Nagi,The fundamental principle in Astrology (whether Natal or Horary) states that the native only gets that what is promised by Ascendant. In your analysis you never take into consideration this.More over You also do not take into consideration the role of the Sub lord of the Sub lord.I think in Horary even if the Ascendant and Primary cusp promises even then the result may not positive unless the 11th cusp confirms.If you look at your analsis you say Sub lord of 6th cusp is in Ketu Star who is placed in 6 so the native will have victory.Please note Sun in Ketu Star is as good as in

Mercury Star because Ketu represents Mercury. In this chart Mercury is Lord of 5 (11th from 7-the opponent).Mercury is placed in 7.Here you may feel that it signifies victory for the opponent.The Sub lord of the 12th cusp (that is 6th from 7) is Venus who is in Venus Star. Thus Venus has PS. Venus is also the Sub lord of the 5th cusp and 7th cusp.Thus Venus signifies 1, 6 and 11 from 7.Just think who will win?I have only tried to place views as per KP which incidentally have many limitations.Regards,SP Khullar

 

Unfortunately Vijender/ India lost today. We have a long way to go as far as sports predictions are concerned.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

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Dear sit,

In my openion 7th cusp refers to partners, either life partners or partners in business, coleges, opponents, enimies etc. Some body who plays in the fields is none of them. Only relation between you and that person is you are interested for him and wish him to win. So they do not come under purview of 7th cusp. In case you are a patriot and put the query as, "shall we win?" then the Ascendant itself may be considered. So most probably IX cusp has to be considered. The horary charts that are already cast by some of us may be reviewed taking Asendant, the 7th and the 9th cusp seperately and examine what difference we get. Retrospective study may help developing.

 

Dr. Luther

 

R Satish <rsatish1942 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:06:14 AM Re: If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person

 

Dear friends,Nearly 3 yrs ago when the bug of ODIs affected India, we attempted many horary predictions.Between India and other 6/11 vs 5/12 cusp subs.Between any 2 parties ( not India),9th cusp for the party You liked.The success rate was between 75-80%.In my opinion, if we are asking a question for some one, then 1st rep you and 7th the querent.Hence taking 7th as Lagna, the results to be worked out.For relatives respy houses ,for a friend, 11th.All these are experimental, no guidelines with justifications.Regards,Satish@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sirs,> In my openion the Ascendant has to be rotated to IX cusp in horary.> Dr. Luther> > >

> > swami <swami> @gro ups.com> Friday, August 22, 2008 12:16:26 PM> Re: If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person> > >  >  >         || Om Gurave Namah ||> Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah>  Hari Om,> In first method,IX is sports person so querent could be someone not related to querest?, if so which KP rule apply to judge sport?> with regards.> Any worked out examplesay in A & A or else where?>  >  OM TATSAT> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> Swami_RCS >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> > - > Sagar S > @gro ups.com > Friday, August 22, 2008 11:28 PM> If we fix ixth cusp aslagna for unknown person> > Hi> Two method can be use to predict victory of a sport person > one as per Horary chart fixing ixth cusp as lagna of the person.> Secondly Sun ingress sign of th eperticular month and game.> first will give very accurate result later will give nearest link.> Sahhasra Saagara > > --- On Fri, 22/8/08, hardeep

singh <bkhardeep > wrote:> > hardeep singh <bkhardeep >> Re: sports_virendra- why failure!> @gro ups.com> Friday, 22 August, 2008, 6:52 PM> > > dear swami ji,>  > there is nothing fault in any system.> it is fault in our application.>  > the failure of predictions is due to jump at conclusions with hurry.>  > where strong urge is very important factor, at the same time i became attached with india's victory.>  > so astrologer should remain unaffected by favourable or unfavourable results.>  > why i fail, i think because transit in my natal chart goes against it also. for accurate predictions astrologer should also have good time. i have seen long quese waiting for astrologer who

dont have scientific approach or explanation.>  > regards> hs nagi> > --- On Fri, 8/22/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:> > swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>> sports_virendra- why failure!> @gro ups.com> Friday, August 22, 2008, 4:57 AM> > > Dear friends,> It is sad that sports results are going against predictions.  In recent past on two occasions Methods of KP, TSP were employed but incorrect results; call for   serious attention.> Sri H.S.Negi a senior KP expert admitted wrong Judgment in light of Mr Khullars explanation and Mr Antriksha employed correct methodology as taught in Nakshatra chintamini but method yielded incorrect results.> Now question is what should be correct working rules? > Can KP answer such simple

matters in day to day life? > Just My Thinking  Nakshatra Chinamani method requires two conditions. > Cuspal SUB LORD of XI and VI  (Both) should occupy any house out of ASC ,II & Upachaya house) > AND > BE IN STAR OF Occupant OF THE HOUSE ASC,II, upchaya. > This is examined for both contestants’ .ASC represents the side on behalf of which query is solved) > Writing of Mr. Antariksh does not suggest, It was a self question although it could be. > For self question, method may not work For lack of interest in said sport and or not being  A serious concern.. It could be a test question? > Was there a strong urge? Was it not a test question, to see if Method work? > Only Mr Antariksh can throw light. > No it is not criticism, just thinking why application of KP should fail. > Any idea? > FOR Competition

Houses VI is primary XI is secondary. > Moon was not a significator of VI Nor V ( sports) Of course it was  type C significator of XI showing desire to win! > Moon was in constellation of Mercury. What matters MERC signify V and VIII. by star lord ship and VII by placement. > It appears a test question. Why divine should answer it? > Coming to Dr H.S.Negi attempt, > Win in litigation or election:6, 11 > It was not a case of wining in litigation.It was not election. > Hope my thinking is not offending. I will appreciate if Reasons of failure are thought out, paving a way to correct understanding and application. > Awaiting insights if possible. > Swami_rcs > Original Message ----> Antariksh <antariksh_80@ >> @gro ups.com Wednesday, August 20, 2008

11:41:03 PM> Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final? > Dear all,> > Today is really a big day for Indian sports! I would like to CONGRATULATE Mr. Sushil Kumar and Mr. Vijender Kumar for their success in Beijing Olympics. We're really proud of you guys!> > As Mr.. Vijender goes into semifinals, the question whether he would win it and enter into Final is now in everyone's mind. So I'm using Horary to see what the result could be for the semifinal match scheduled on Aug 22, 2008.> > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *> Om Shreem Hreem Kleem Namah> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *> Query: Will Vijender Kumar win the Olympics Semifinal and enter into the Final?> Horary Number: 92Â DOJ: August 20, 2008Â TOJ: 09:58:01PMÂ POJ:

88:24:32 E / 22:36:39 N > I'm using the method described in Nakshtra Chintamani (pg.154) by Chandrakant R. Bhatt:> In cases of competition and contest between two rival parties in any walk of life viz. cricket match etc., if the Cuspal sub lord of the 11th and that of the 6th occupy the house 1,2,3,6,10 or 11 and be in the star of the occupant of the houses 1,2,3,6,10 or 11, the team under query will win. > > Here 1,2,3,...,11, 12Â indicate houses considered for Mr. Vijender, whereas I, II, III,...,XI, XII indicate houses considered for his opposition. Mr. Vijender's (VJ) 7th cusp is taken as the Ascendant (house I) for his rival (OP).> i.e. - > VJ -Â OP> 1Â Â -Â Â Â VII> 2Â Â -Â Â Â VIII> 3Â Â -Â Â Â IX> 4Â Â

-   X> 5  -   XI> 6  -   XII> 7  -   I> 8  -   II> 9  -   III> 10 -   IV> 11 -   V> 12 -  VI> > Please refer to the file section for the chart used. > Analysis for Vijender:   > ------------ --------- ------> 6th cusp sub-lord: Rahu;> Rahu is in 6th cusp;> Rahu is in star of Mars; Mars is in 1st cusp;> [Rahu is in sub of Rahu; Rahu is in 6th cusp;]> > 11th cusp sub-lord: Saturn;> Saturn is in 1st cusp;> Saturn is in star of Venus; Venus is in 1st cusp;> [saturn is in sub of Moon; Moon is in 8th cusp;]>

> Therefore the planetary positions are in favor of Vijender.> > > Analysis for Vijender's opposition:> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --> VI cusp sub-lord: Mars;> Mars is in VII cusp; > Mars is in star of Sun; Sun is in VI cusp;> [Mars is in sub of Mercury; Mercury is in VII cusp;]> > XI cusp sub-lord: Mercury; > Mercury is in VII cusp;> Mercury is in star of Venus; Venus is in VII cusp;> [Mercury is in sub of Saturn; Saturn is in VII cusp;]> > Therefore the planetary positions are NOT in favor of Vijender's opposition.> > In view of the above position, Mr. Vijender Kumar should win the Semifinal match and go to the Final.> > Wishing him Best of luck!!!> > Regards,> Antariksh> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, bkhardeep <bkhardeep > wrote: >

 > number given- 217 ( 1 to 249 ) > time 8-17 am IST, date 22, 08 , 08,  place- Ludhiana / India > yes, India will win . > whetherquerry is genuine ? > moonis lord of 6 and in star of ketu. ketu in 6. so querry is genuine. > rule- > if6th cusp is a strong significator of 6 or 10 or 11 the person will win. > here6th cusp falls in cancer at 10- 52, moon sign- saturn star- and sun sub. > whatwill sun do ? > sundoes not have PS. > atstellar level, sun is in star of ketu. ketu is in 6. > sosun is a stro0ng significator of 6. > result = victory > commentsare welcome before competition. > regards > hsnagi > it was me who analysed the chart wrong, > igot feed back by mr. khullar in some other group before the match as under- > Dear

Nagi,> > The fundamental principle in Astrology (whether Natal or Horary) states that the native only gets that what is promised by Ascendant. In your analysis you never take into consideration this.> More over You also do not take into consideration the role of the Sub lord of the Sub lord.> I think in Horary even if the Ascendant and Primary cusp promises even then the result may not positive unless the 11th cusp confirms.> > If you look at your analsis you say Sub lord of 6th cusp is in Ketu Star who is placed in 6 so the native will have victory.> > Please note Sun in Ketu Star is as good as in Mercury Star because Ketu represents Mercury. In this chart Mercury is Lord of 5 (11th from 7-the opponent).Mercury is placed in 7.> Here you may feel that it signifies victory for the opponent.> > The Sub lord of the 12th cusp (that is 6th from 7) is

Venus who is in Venus Star. Thus Venus has PS. Venus is also the Sub lord of the 5th cusp and 7th cusp.Thus Venus signifies 1, 6 and 11 from 7.> Just think who will win?> > I have only tried to place views as per KP which incidentally have many limitations.> > Regards,> SP Khullar > Â > Unfortunately Vijender/ India lost today. We have a long way to go as far as sports predictions are concerned. > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey > Â > Â > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.>