4 step method

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Dear Tin Win

 

In KPASTRO 3.0, the following 4 step rule is not considered.

 

1) In 4 step method, whenever the planet is in its own star then its sub is considered as its working starlord.

2) Similarly, whenever the planet is in its own star as well as in its own sub then, its sub sub is considered as its working starlord.

 

Dhanabalan

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dear dhalabalan,

reply in bold letters-sunil gondhalekar

On 8/21/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gondhalekar

 

1) In 4 step method, whenever the planet is in its own star then its sub is considered as its working starlord(step 2). If so, which is the working sublord(step 3)? Whether sub sub lord?

reply:this rule is not applicale in 4step theory.pl.read the rules of 4 step theory first.

2) Similarly, whenever the planet is in its own star as well as in its own sub then, its sub sub is considered as its working starlord(step 2). If so, which is the working sublord(step 3)? Whether sub sub sub lord?

reply:this rule is also not in 4 step theory.

[i have read a similar rule in cuspal interlink article(page 38 of 4-5-2008). Whenever the starlord and sublord of a planet is same(need not be its own starlord) then the planet's sub sub lord has to be considered as its working starlord.]

reply:i have not studied cuspal interlink theory.and as per my opinion it makes complications to predict events.

3) Is there any such rule in k.p.

reply:this can be replied by other senior person in list

4) Where is the origin for this rule.

Dhanabalan

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Dear Dhanabalan,

 

1. In KPASTRO 3.0, all the following 4 step rules mentioned in the 4

step book and messages in both KP group and explained in the so-called

guide in the file sction of this group and in the KPE-Zine.

 

2. The KPAstro 3.0 4 step primary significators for your chart have

been posted in this forum. Pl tell me exactly what is missing and only

then we can practically discuss. For something groundless, I've no

comment.

 

3. Pl note even the authority of 4 step has pointed out only one thing

till now that the conj. and aspect effects of the signlord of

Rahu/Ketu are not considered by him. This is not mentioned in the 4

step book and now it is to exclude as explained by him. Now I'm asking

whether to take the conj. and aspect effects of the starlord of

Rahu/Ketu and not yet answered. This effect is taken in the KPAstro

3.0.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan

wrote:

>

> Dear Tin Win

>  

> In KPASTRO 3.0, the following 4 step rule is not considered.

>  

> 1) In 4 step method, whenever the planet is in its own star then its

sub is considered as its working starlord.

> 2) Similarly, whenever the planet is in its own star as well as in

its own sub then, its sub sub is considered as its working starlord.

>  

> Dhanabalan

>

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Dear Gondhalekar

 

1) I have gone through an article on 4 step method under reference (1). In that article, there is a NOTE(Red colour). That note confused me.

 

NOTE : Whenever the Planet is in its own Star then its Sub is considered as its working StarLord. AND Similarly Whenever the Planet is in its own Star as well as in its own Sub then, its Sub-Sub is considered as its working StarLord.

2) Mr.Rajendra Nimje is follower of 4 step method. In his post under reference (2), he confirmed the above theory. Though you are aware of his posting, you did not correct him. So I have come to the conclusion that there is a rule like that in 4 step method.

 

By another theory as Jupiter is in self constellation Saturn is promoted at star level and it signifies 2nd house.

 

3) I request the concerned members probably Mr.Swami and Mr.Rajendra Nimje to explain the above theory to members.

 

Dhanabalan

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Reference (1)

Judgement by 4 step theory

 

(For Sri Sunil gondhalekar and shri raichur ji 's kind attention with a request to hint how to arrive at judgement by 4 step theory)Dear Ajay Soni,

Many times cases do not receive attention on groups. may be two reasons.1.Native or person posting has no luck to have blessings to know his /clients future.2. People are uninclined to enter into discussion about somebodies prediction.Here you have predicted. obviously so far you have not expressed how you have predicted clearly except stating that you have seen all charts and native is a participant in drama etc.When i tried to answer I also was not permitted to answer by divine indications, But later on your persuation I worked on the chart and thought Mr Sunil on KP list may like to help analysis.He is a busy astrologer running magazine .So i feel you can repost your request on web.With best wishes.

Swami_rcs

Analysis referred Dear Friends,Mr Ajay soni had posted prediction He made about one of his friend "can you check and tell me when this guy will become a film star. I was analysing the chart of this guy and found June 2007 his journey starts as an Actor and sept 2007 A film Star Wht r ur suggestions "Time - 22:45Gender - MalePlace of birth - Ajmer, rajasthanDOB - 22 Jan 1978

Here is my attempt for kind examination and seeking comments.As per KP teachings Native will Prosper as an Actor or Actress:If the sub-lord of the 5th Cusp is placed in a star, the lord of which is the significator of the houses 5, 6 and 10 one can be popular as an actor or actress. If it is also the significator of 11th then one will be prosperous. If Mars is one of the planets signifying these, one can be a leader amongst them. There is no inferiority complex, no stage fear but only success.In chart of your friend Sub lord of the 5th Cusp is Rahu. Rahu is placed in Nakshatra of moon. So as per rule This planet moon should be a significator of 5,6 and 10.But it is not Significator of these houses..By normal principals Moon signifies 11 10 4 and 7 houses.However It means He may have talent in drama but success and popularity is not forseen.Please understand, It is

not a prediction Just a analysis based on Data given by Mr Ajay soni.Secondary Evidence KP(a) Let us see significators By 4 step theory.Moon signifies 4 9 10 houses as per first two steps out of the four steps.

However it signifies Houses 2.3.8.11 and 12.

PLANET : MOONItself :-------------- Moon:- 10 11 Mercury-Drusht 4 1 10It's N.Swami :-------- Jupiter:- (9) 4 7 Cusp Yuti: (10) Mercury-Drusht (4) 1 10It's Sub :------------ Jupiter:- 9 4 7 Cusp Yuti: (10) Mercury-Drusht 4 1 10It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Mars:- (10) (3) (8) Cusp Yuti: (11) Sun-Drusht (4) (12) Venus-Drusht (4) (2) 9Itself aspects :------ 4Further Rahu the Cuspal sub lord will give results of Moon and Mercury.Now Look What Mr Lajmi ji said1) Houses strongly represented by the Planet,2) Houses strongly signified by the Star-lord of the Planet,3) Houses strongly represented by the Sub-lord of the planet,4) Houses signified by the Star-lord of this Sub-lord...as was aptly summarised by Mr.Raichur.In addition, personally,after listing down all significators arrived at,by using the above

(or any method that you would like to use), I select ONLY those planets which are posited in the sub of a significator,whose star is untenanted... These will be the strongest significators,as per K.P.,in myhumble opinion... and this has helped me immensely...Custom Ayanamsha Offset Used: Minus 0 Deg. 0 Min. 22 Sec.Original Ayanamsha in Deg Min Sec : 23 deg. 27 ' 14 ''MOST IMPORTANT PLANET-WISE SIGNIFICATORS In Their Descending Order OfImportance along with their SubsPLN : StarLord : StarLord : {In_House} Whose_Lord PLN : {In_House}Whose_LordKET : {11} 5 6 {7} Aspects 1 Sub: JupiterVEN : {4}

12 {4} 2 9 Aspects 11 Sub: VenusSUN : {4} 12 {4} 12 Aspects 11 Sub: VenusMON : {9} 4 7 {10} 11 Aspects 4 Sub: JupiterMAR : {11} 5 6 {10} 3 8 Aspects 5 2 6 Sub: KetuRAH : {10} 11 {1} Aspects 7 Sub: SaturnJUP : {10} 3 8 {9} 4 7 Aspects 4 2 6 Sub: VenusSAT : {7} {11} 5 6 Aspects 6 2 9 Sub: MarsMER : {4} 2 9 {4} 1 10 Aspects 10 Sub: MarsMAIN PLANET-WISE SIGNIFICATORS.PLN : StarLord : StarLord : {In_House} Whose_Lord PLN : {In_House}Whose_Lord Aspects This_House Sub: Sub of PLNNOTE : Whenever the Planet is in its own Star then its Sub is considered as its working StarLord. AND Similarly Whenever the Planet is in its own Star as well as in its own Sub then, its Sub-Sub is considered as

its working StarLord.The house numbers in any row will be in their DECREASING ORDER of their strengths, in bringing out the effects of that respective Planet's Periods, Sub-Periods or Sub-Sub-Periods.KET : StarLord : Saturn : {11} 5 6 PLN : {7} Aspects 1 Sub: JupiterVEN : StarLord : Sun : {4} 12 PLN : {4} 2 9 Aspects 11 Sub: VenusSUN : Sub : Venus : {4} 2 9 PLN : {4} 12 Aspects 11 Sub: VenusMON : StarLord :

Jupiter : {9} 4 7 PLN : {10} 11 Aspects 4 Sub: JupiterMAR : StarLord : Saturn : {11} 5 6 PLN : {10} 3 8 Aspects 5 2 6 Sub: KetuRAH : StarLord : Moon : {10} 11 PLN : {1} Aspects 7 Sub: SaturnJUP : StarLord : Mars : {10} 3 8 PLN : {9} 4 7 Aspects 4 2 6 Sub: VenusSAT : StarLord : Ketu : {7} PLN

: {11} 5 6 Aspects 6 2 9 Sub: MarsMER : StarLord : Venus : {4} 2 9 PLN : {4} 1 10 Aspects 10 Sub: MarsFOUR STEP THEORY DETAILED PLANET-WISE SIGNIFICATORS.Figures shown in the brackets are the strong significators(Balwan Karyeshes) and the rest are weaker significators(Duyyam Karyeshes).First group represents the house in which the planet is deposited and the second group represents the houses owned by the planets.PLANET : KETUItself :-------------- Ketu:- 7 Cusp Yuti: (7) Rashi-Swami Jupiter 9 4 7It's N.Swami :---- Saturn:- (11) (5) (6) Cusp Yuti: (12)It's Sub :------------ Jupiter:- 9 4 7 Cusp Yuti: (10) Mercury-Drusht 4 1 10It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Mars:- (10) (3) (8) Cusp Yuti: (11) Sun-Drusht (4) (12)

Venus-Drusht (4) (2) 9Itself aspects :------ 1PLANET : VENUSItself :-------------- Venus:- 4 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (5) Sun-Yuti 4 12 Mars-Drusht 10 3 8It's N.Swami :-------- Sun:- (4) (12) Cusp Yuti: (5) Venus-Yuti (4)(2) 9 Mars-Drusht (10) (3) (8)It's Sub :------------ Venus:- 4 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (5) Sun-Yuti 4 12 Mars-Drusht 10 3 8It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Sun:- (4) (12) Cusp Yuti: (5) Venus-Yuti (4)(2) 9 Mars-Drusht (10) (3) (8)Itself aspects :------ 11PLANET : SUNItself :-------------- Sun:- (4) (12) Cusp Yuti: (5) Venus-Yuti (4)(2) 9 Mars-Drusht (10) (3) (8)It's N.Swami :-------- Sun:- (4) (12) Cusp Yuti: (5)

Venus-Yuti (4)(2) 9 Mars-Drusht (10) (3) (8)It's Sub :------------ Venus:- 4 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (5) Sun-Yuti 4 12 Mars-Drusht 10 3 8It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Sun:- (4) (12) Cusp Yuti: (5) Venus-Yuti (4)(2) 9 Mars-Drusht (10) (3) (8)Itself aspects :------ 11PLANET : MOONItself :-------------- Moon:- 10 11 Mercury-Drusht 4 1 10It's N.Swami

:-------- Jupiter:- (9) 4 7 Cusp Yuti: (10) Mercury-Drusht (4) 1 10It's Sub :------------ Jupiter:- 9 4 7 Cusp Yuti: (10) Mercury-Drusht 4 1 10It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Mars:- (10) (3) (8) Cusp Yuti: (11)Sun-Drusht (4) (12) Venus-Drusht (4) (2) 9Itself aspects :------

4PLANET : MARSItself :-------------- Mars:- 10 3 8 Cusp Yuti: (11) Sun-Drusht 412 Venus-Drusht 4 2 9It's N.Swami :-------- Saturn:- (11) (5) (6) Cusp Yuti: (12)It's Sub :------------ Ketu:- 7 Cusp Yuti: (7) Rashi-Swami Jupiter 9 4 7It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Saturn:- (11) (5) (6) Cusp Yuti: (12)Itself aspects :------ 5 2 6PLANET : RAHUItself :-------------- Rahu:- (1) Cusp Yuti: (1) Rashi-Swami Mercury(4) 1 10It's N.Swami :-------- Moon:- (10) 11 Mercury-Drusht (4) 1 10It's Sub :------------ Saturn:- 11 5 6 Cusp Yuti: (12)It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Ketu:- (7) Cusp Yuti: (7) Rashi-Swami Jupiter(9) 4 7Itself aspects :------ 7PLANET : JUPITERItself :-------------- Jupiter:- 9 4 7 Cusp Yuti: (10) Mercury-Drusht 4 1 10It's N.Swami :---- Mars:- (10) (3) (8) Cusp Yuti: (11) Sun-Drusht (4) (12) Venus-Drusht (4) (2) 9It's Sub :------------ Venus:- 4 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (5) Sun-Yuti 4 12 Mars-Drusht 10 3 8It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Sun:- (4) (12) Cusp Yuti: (5) Venus-Yuti (4)(2) 9 Mars-Drusht (10) (3) (8)Itself aspects :------ 4 2 6PLANET : SATURNItself :-------------- Saturn:- 11 5 6 Cusp Yuti:

(12)It's N.Swami :-------- Ketu:- (7) Cusp Yuti: (7) Rashi-Swami Jupiter (9) 4 7It's Sub :------------ Mars:- 10 3 8 Cusp Yuti: (11) Sun-Drusht 4 12 Venus-Drusht 4 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Saturn:- (11) (5) (6) Cusp Yuti: (12)Itself aspects :------ 6 2 9PLANET : MERCURYItself :-------------- Mercury:- (4) 1 10 Cusp Yuti: (4) Moon-Drusht (10) 11 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 4 7It's N.Swami :-------- Venus:- (4) (2) 9 Cusp Yuti: (5) Sun-Yuti (4) (12) Mars-Drusht (10) (3) (8)It's Sub :------------ Mars:- 10 3 8 Cusp Yuti: (11) Sun-Drusht 4 12 Venus-Drusht 4 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Saturn:- (11) (5) (6) Cusp Yuti: (12)Itself aspects :------ 10i request Lajmi

ji to help me with his method and demonstarte how I should proceed.Hope some one else also can make me understand,How I should choose Strong significator for 5 10 and 11 House to ensure that moon is a candidate or is not a candidate to tell that native is going to be actor or not going to be an actor.Dear Ajay soni ji, so I am curious How You have predicted? I would love to have your method May be any :system analysis, KP , Jaimini Or parashar or western. No problem.Please post your finding on Vedic astrology or jyotish group.( please do not post here , it is for KP only).If it is KP please post here.May be I am commiting mistakes. Experts are requested to correct me.(b) Vedic evidnce.His Navamsa has Moon in Aries.It can give Good voice and expertise in melodious tone and voice.Talents in Drama are missing if Birth time is correct.Wish your prediction comes true and Experts improve my

learning.Swami_rcs----------

Reference (2)

Re: Re: Contribution of planets to the houses

Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:44 AM

"sunil gondhalekar" <sunilalaka

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dear shri.nimje,

in 4 step theory,aspect is considerd on cusp only and not on bhava.

in the case jupiter plays the major role in events and that matches as per rules of 4step theory.

thanks

-sunil gondhalekar

On 8/19/08, Rajendra Nimje <nimje. in> wrote: Dear Sunil Ji,I have a small point to add.Jupiter in self constellation is strong. It's 5th and 9th aspects are also considered significant. Jup is aspecting 11th house which is one of the houses signifying marriage. By another theory as Jupiter is in self constellation Saturn is promoted at star level and it signifies 2nd house. Marriage was celebrated in Jup/Mer/Ven DBA and Mer and Ven both are strong significators of

7th. The chain completes for 2-7-11 First Job- Jup/sat/rahuJup 2,11Sat 2,10Rah- Starlord Ve -10,8,5signlord Jup 6DBA is covering 2,6 and 101st Child (5)Jup/Mer/RahDBA signifies 2, 5 and 11 2nd Child (7)Jup/Ve/VeJup 2, 11Ven 7The chain of 2-7-11 is complete for the second childThanks,Rajendra--- On Fri, 8/22/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalakaRe: 4 step method Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 5:44 AM

 

 

 

dear dhalabalan,

reply in bold letters-sunil gondhalekar

On 8/21/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gondhalekar

 

1) In 4 step method, whenever the planet is in its own star then its sub is considered as its working starlord(step 2). If so, which is the working sublord(step 3)? Whether sub sub lord?

reply:this rule is not applicale in 4step theory.pl.read the rules of 4 step theory first.

2) Similarly, whenever the planet is in its own star as well as in its own sub then, its sub sub is considered as its working starlord(step 2). If so, which is the working sublord(step 3)? Whether sub sub sub lord?

reply:this rule is also not in 4 step theory.

[i have read a similar rule in cuspal interlink article(page 38 of 4-5-2008). Whenever the starlord and sublord of a planet is same(need not be its own starlord) then the planet's sub sub lord has to be considered as its working starlord.]

reply:i have not studied cuspal interlink theory.and as per my opinion it makes complications to predict events.

3) Is there any such rule in k.p.

reply:this can be replied by other senior person in list

4) Where is the origin for this rule.

Dhanabalan

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Dear Tin Win

 

The article of Mr.Swami and the posting of Mr.Nimji confused me. I sent reply to Mr.Gondhalekar.

 

Thank you

Dhanabalan

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Dear Gondhalekar

 

1) I have gone through an article on 4 step method under reference (1). In that article, there is a NOTE(Red colour). That note confused me.

 

NOTE : Whenever the Planet is in its own Star then its Sub is considered as its working StarLord. AND Similarly Whenever the Planet is in its own Star as well as in its own Sub then, its Sub-Sub is considered as its working StarLord.

2) Mr.Rajendra Nimje is follower of 4 step method. In his post under reference (2), he confirmed the above theory. Though you are aware of his posting, you did not correct him. So I have come to a conclusion that there is a rule like that in 4 step method.

 

By another theory as Jupiter is in self constellation Saturn is promoted at star level and it signifies 2nd house.

3) I request the concerned members probably Mr.Swami and Mr.Rajendra Nimje to explain the above theory to members.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 8/22/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

tw853 <tw853 Re: 4 step method Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 11:40 AM

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan,1. In KPASTRO 3.0, all the following 4 step rules mentioned in the 4 step book and messages in both KP group and explained in the so-called guide in the file sction of this group and in the KPE-Zine. 2. The KPAstro 3.0 4 step primary significators for your chart have been posted in this forum. Pl tell me exactly what is missing and only then we can practically discuss. For something groundless, I've no comment.3. Pl note even the authority of 4 step has pointed out only one thing till now that the conj. and aspect effects of the signlord of Rahu/Ketu are not considered by him. This is not mentioned in the 4 step book and now it is to exclude as explained by him. Now I'm asking whether to take the conj. and aspect effects of the starlord of Rahu/Ketu and not yet answered. This effect is taken in the KPAstro 3.0.Thanks and regards,tw@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Tin Win> > In KPASTRO 3.0, the following 4 step rule is not considered. > > 1) In 4 step method, whenever the planet is in its own star then its sub is considered as its working starlord. > 2) Similarly, whenever the planet is in its own star as well as in its own sub then, its sub sub is considered as its working starlord. > > Dhanabalan>

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Dear Tin Win

 

My birth chart was casted with two different softwares.

Green: To be included in Astrokundali software.

Yellow: To be removed from KPASTRO 3.0

 

PLANET : SATURNItself :----------- --- Saturn:- (10) (2) Cusp Yuti: (10) It's N.Swami :-------- Rahu:- (12) Rashi-Swami Jupiter (6) (1) (3) 12It's Sub :----------- - Jupiter:- (6) (1) (3) 12 It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Jupiter:- (6) (1) (3) 12 Itself aspects :------ 5 1 8

Planet Sa+: 10; 2; Asp 4; Cnj 10 Starlord of Sa is Ra: 12; Sgl Ju(6, 1-3); Stl Ve(8, 5, Asp 3, Cnj 9) Sublord of Sa is Ju*: 6; 1-3 Starlord of Ju is Ju*: 6; 1-3

 

PLANET : MOONItself :----------- --- Moon:- (9) Cusp Yuti: (10) It's N.Swami :-------- Mars:- (12) (4) (11) Cusp Yuti: (12) It's Sub :----------- - Sun:- 7 8 It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Mercury:- (7) 6 7 9 Itself aspects :------ 5

 

Planet Mo+: 9; Asp 4; Cnj 10 Starlord of Mo is Ma: 12; 4-11; Asp Me(7); Asp 3; Asp 6; Cnj 12 Sublord of Mo is Su: Starlord of Su is Me: 7; Asp by Ma(12, 4-11, Asp 3, Asp 6, Cnj 12)

 

PLANET : JUPITER Itself :----------- --- Jupiter:- (6) (1) (3) 12 It's N.Swami :-------- Jupiter:- (6) (1) (3) 12 It's Sub :----------- - Saturn:- (10) (2) Cusp Yuti: (10)It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Rashi-Swami Jupiter (6) (1) (3) 12 starlord-venus- (8)(5) (9) Itself aspects :------ 1 11 3

 

Planet Ju*: 6; 1-3 Starlord of Ju is Ju*: 6; 1-3 Sublord of Ju is Sa+: 10; 2; Asp 4; Cnj 10 Starlord of Sa is Ra: 12; Sgl Ju(6, 1-3); Stl Ve(8, 5, Asp 3, Cnj 9)Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 8/22/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

tw853 <tw853 Re: 4 step method Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 11:40 AM

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan,1. In KPASTRO 3.0, all the following 4 step rules mentioned in the 4 step book and messages in both KP group and explained in the so-called guide in the file sction of this group and in the KPE-Zine. 2. The KPAstro 3.0 4 step primary significators for your chart have been posted in this forum. Pl tell me exactly what is missing and only then we can practically discuss. For something groundless, I've no comment.3. Pl note even the authority of 4 step has pointed out only one thing till now that the conj. and aspect effects of the signlord of Rahu/Ketu are not considered by him. This is not mentioned in the 4 step book and now it is to exclude as explained by him. Now I'm asking whether to take the conj. and aspect effects of the starlord of Rahu/Ketu and not yet answered. This effect is taken in the KPAstro 3.0.Thanks and regards,tw@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Tin Win> > In KPASTRO 3.0, the following 4 step rule is not considered. > > 1) In 4 step method, whenever the planet is in its own star then its sub is considered as its working starlord. > 2) Similarly, whenever the planet is in its own star as well as in its own sub then, its sub sub is considered as its working starlord. > > Dhanabalan>

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Dear Tin Win

 

I have not come across again judging the significators. Hence I requested clarification from 4 step author. He said that he never asked to again judge the significators. What I understood is,

 

Further judging of signlord of Rahu/ketu, starlord of Rahu/Ketu,

further judging of aspecting/conjoining planets of Rahu/Ketu,

further judging of aspecting/conjoining planets of planet(step I), starlord(Step II), sublord(Step III) and sub starlord(Step IV).

in the KPASTRO 3.0 are to be removed.

 

The example in the study note is produced. The yellow mark are to be removed from the KPASTRO 3.0 software programme.

 

The Astrokundali software is being used by the author. In that software, no further judging of the significators.

 

I do not know which software is correct for 4 step method. Only the 4 step method author has to tell.

 

Dhanabalan

 

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1.4. FOUR STEP PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS

 

Empty houses: 1, 2, 6, 8, 11, 12

 

Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Me, Ju, Sa

 

Planets in own stars (*): Ra, Ke

 

Me conj 7

Ju conj 3

Ve conj 6

Ra conj 3

Ke conj 9

 

Su conj Me Ra conj Ju

 

Mo is aspected by Ju Ke is aspected by Ju

 

Me aspects 1

Ju aspects 7, 9, 11

Ve aspects 12

Ra aspects 9

Ke aspects 3

 

Planet Ke*: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp by Ju(3, 8, Asp Mo[10, 12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 3; Cnj 9

 

Starlord of Ke is Ke*: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp by Ju(3, 8, Asp Mo[10, 12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 3; Cnj 9

 

Sublord of Ke is Sa+: 4; 6

 

Starlord of Sa is Ke*: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp by Ju(3, 8, Asp Mo[10, 12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 3; Cnj 9

 

 

Planet Ve: Cnj 6

Starlord of Ve is Su: 7; 1; Cnj Me(7, 2-11, Asp 1, Cnj 7)

Sublord of Ve is Ve: Cnj 6

Starlord of Ve is Su: 7; 1; Cnj Me(7, 2-11, Asp 1, Cnj 7)

 

Planet Su:

Starlord of Su is Ra*: 3; Sgl Ve(5, Asp 12, Cnj 6); Cnj Ju(3-8, AspMo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 9; Cnj 3

Sublord of Su is Ve: Cnj 6

Starlord of Ve is Su: 7-1; Cnj Me(7- 2-11, Asp 1, Cnj 7)

 

Planet Mo+: 10-12; Asp by Ju(3-8, Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3)

Starlord of Mo is Ma: 5

Sublord of Mo is Su:

Starlord of Su is Ra*: 3; Sgl Ve(5, Asp 12, Cnj 6); Cnj Ju(3-8, AspMo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 9; Cnj 3

 

Planet Ma:

Starlord of Ma is Ve: 5; Asp 12; Cnj 6

Sublord of Ma is Me+: 7-2-11; Cnj Su(7-1); Asp 1; Cnj 7

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 3; Sgl Ve(5, Asp 12, Cnj 6); Cnj Ju(3-8, Asp Mo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 9; Cnj 3

 

Planet Ra*: 3; Sgl Ve(5, Asp 12, Cnj 6); Cnj Ju(3-8, Asp Mo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 9; Cnj 3

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 3; Sgl Ve(5, Asp 12, Cnj 6); Cnj Ju(3-8, Asp Mo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 9; Cnj 3

Sublord of Ra is Sa+: 4; 6

Starlord of Sa is Ke*: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp by Ju(3-8, Asp Mo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 3; Cnj 9

 

Planet Ju+: 3-8; Asp Mo(10-12); Asp 7; Asp 9; Asp 11; Cnj 3

Starlord of Ju is Ra*: 3; Sgl Ve(5, Asp 12, Cnj 6); Cnj Ju(3-8, Asp Mo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 9; Cnj 3

Sublord of Ju is Ra*: 3; Sgl Ve(5, Asp 12, Cnj 6); Cnj Ju(3-8, Asp Mo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 9; Cnj 3

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 3; Sgl Ve(5, Asp 12, Cnj 6); Cnj Ju(3-8, Asp Mo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 9; Cnj 3

 

Planet Sa+: 4; 6

Starlord of Sa is Ke*: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp by Ju(3, 8, Asp Mo[10-12], Asp 7,Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 3; Cnj 9

Sublord of Sa is Ve: Cnj 6

Starlord of Ve is Su: 7-1; Cnj Me(7-2-11, Asp 1, Cnj 7)

 

Planet Me+: 7-2-11; Cnj Su(7-1); Asp 1; Cnj 7

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 3; Sgl Ve(5, Asp 12, Cnj 6); Cnj Ju(3-8, Asp Mo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 9; Cnj 3

Sublord of Me is Me+: 7-2-11; Cnj Su(7-1); Asp 1; Cnj 7

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 3; Sgl Ve(5, Asp 12, Cnj 6); Cnj Ju(3-8, Asp Mo[10-12], Asp 7, Asp 9, Asp 11, Cnj 3); Asp 9; Cnj 3--- On Fri, 8/22/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

tw853 <tw853 Re: 4 step method Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 11:40 AM

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan,1. In KPASTRO 3.0, all the following 4 step rules mentioned in the 4 step book and messages in both KP group and explained in the so-called guide in the file sction of this group and in the KPE-Zine. 2. The KPAstro 3.0 4 step primary significators for your chart have been posted in this forum. Pl tell me exactly what is missing and only then we can practically discuss. For something groundless, I've no comment.3. Pl note even the authority of 4 step has pointed out only one thing till now that the conj. and aspect effects of the signlord of Rahu/Ketu are not considered by him. This is not mentioned in the 4 step book and now it is to exclude as explained by him. Now I'm asking whether to take the conj. and aspect effects of the starlord of Rahu/Ketu and not yet answered. This effect is taken in the KPAstro 3.0.Thanks and regards,tw@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Tin Win> > In KPASTRO 3.0, the following 4 step rule is not considered. > > 1) In 4 step method, whenever the planet is in its own star then its sub is considered as its working starlord. > 2) Similarly, whenever the planet is in its own star as well as in its own sub then, its sub sub is considered as its working starlord. > > Dhanabalan>

[Guest guest]

dear shri dhanabalan,

the rules mentioned in the article are not used in 4step theory.

these rules are developed by one kp astrologer based in bombay,whose

follower follows these rules.in my opinion KSK has not mentioned these

rules.and as per mr.tinwin they are not as per kp principles.

 

now regarding astrokundali s/w.it is not belongs to me and i am not promotor

of this software and not partner also.he has not included all rules in s/w due

to his own opinion of commercial angle.but i am satisfied with this software.

i dont know other s/w so cant compare it with astrokundli.

 

-sunil gondhalekar

On 8/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Tin Win

 

The article of Mr.Swami and the posting of Mr.Nimji confused me. I sent reply to Mr.Gondhalekar.

 

Thank you

Dhanabalan

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Dear Gondhalekar

 

1) I have gone through an article on 4 step method under reference (1). In that article, there is a NOTE(Red colour). That note confused me.

NOTE : Whenever the Planet is in its own Star then its Sub is considered as its working StarLord. AND Similarly Whenever the Planet is in its own Star as well as in its own Sub then, its Sub-Sub is considered as its working StarLord.

 

2) Mr.Rajendra Nimje is follower of 4 step method. In his post under reference (2), he confirmed the above theory. Though you are aware of his posting, you did not correct him. So I have come to a conclusion that there is a rule like that in 4 step method. By another theory as Jupiter is in self constellation Saturn is promoted at star level and it signifies 2nd house. 3) I request the concerned members probably Mr.Swami and Mr.Rajendra Nimje to explain the above theory to members.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 8/22/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

tw853 <tw853 Re: 4 step method

Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 11:40 AM

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan,1. In KPASTRO 3.0, all the following 4 step rules mentioned in the 4 step book and messages in both KP group and explained in the so-called guide in the file sction of this group and in the KPE-Zine.

2. The KPAstro 3.0 4 step primary significators for your chart have been posted in this forum. Pl tell me exactly what is missing and only then we can practically discuss. For something groundless, I've no

comment.3. Pl note even the authority of 4 step has pointed out only one thing till now that the conj. and aspect effects of the signlord of Rahu/Ketu are not considered by him. This is not mentioned in the 4

step book and now it is to exclude as explained by him. Now I'm asking whether to take the conj. and aspect effects of the starlord of Rahu/Ketu and not yet answered. This effect is taken in the KPAstro 3.0.

Thanks and regards,tw@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...>

wrote:>> Dear Tin Win> > In KPASTRO 3.0, the following 4 step rule is not considered. > > 1) In 4 step method, whenever the planet is in its own star then its

sub is considered as its working starlord. > 2) Similarly, whenever the planet is in its own star as well as in its own sub then, its sub sub is considered as its working starlord. > > Dhanabalan

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