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> My doubt: > It is said that the result can be entirely different if 7th aspect is not taken. > If it is so, the author should not leave the chance to the astrologer to choose the 7th aspect of the significators. The author must be specific.

Depending on which option is chosen, the result can be entirely different, for instance in the example chart in Msg#14714, Antara lord Venus can give marriage if `Su asp 7' is taken into consideration in the 4th step, otherwise marriage is denied in Venus Antara by the primary signification of `totally negative' houses 1, 12 in the 4th step.

-Point 16 of A Note on 4 Step

-Pl see the life example from Msg#14714 as given below.

The author does not leave the chance to the astrologer to choose the 7th aspect of the significators. The author is specific and sticks to take the 7th aspect . The choice is my comment because Shri Raichur has chosen the option not to take the 7th aspect giving the reasons.

> > Whether the author recommends the 7th planetary aspect of significators or not? > Whether the author recommends the 7th cusp aspect of significators or not?

The author has used both the 7th planetary aspect of significators and the 7th cusp aspect of significators. >

Message #14714 of 18724

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Re: 4 step theory and marraige - - - 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (5)

4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (5)1. CHART DATAAbhijit, 09-09-1978, 06:32 AM, Belgaum, Karnataka, 15N52, 74E30, NewKPA 23-28-10, Asc Le 24-38-40, Saturn Dasa Bal 11Y-8M-13D2. 4 STEP PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS(The Original Print-Out of KPAstro 3.0 after converting from PDF)

Empty houses: 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Me, JuPlanets in own stars (*): MaSu conj 1Mo is aspected by JuSu aspects 7Planet Ke:Starlord of Ke is Sa: 12-6Sublord of Ke is Sa:Starlord of Sa is Ke: 7; Sgl Ju(11-5-8, Asp Mo[3]); Stl Sa(12-6)Planet Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ra: 1; Sgl Me(12); Stl Su(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1)Sublord of Ve is Ra:Starlord of Ra is Su: 12; Asp 7; Cnj 1Planet Su: Cnj 1Starlord of Su is Ve: 2-10Sublord of Su is Sa:Starlord of Sa is Ke: 7; Sgl Ju(11-5-8, Asp Mo[3]); Stl Sa(12-6)Planet Mo+: 3; Asp by Ju(11-5-8)Starlord of Mo is Sa: 12-6Sublord of Mo is Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ra: 1; Sgl Me(12); Stl Su(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1)Planet Ma*: 2; 4-9Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 2-4-9Sublord of Ma is Sa:Starlord of Sa is Ke: 7; Sgl Ju(11-5-8, Asp Mo[3]); Stl Sa(12-6)Planet Ra:Starlord of Ra is Su: 12; Asp 7; Cnj 1Sublord of Ra is Sa:Starlord of Sa is Ke: 7; Sgl Ju(11-5-8, Asp Mo[3]); Stl Sa(12-6)Planet Ju+: 11; 5-8; Asp Mo(3)Starlord of Ju is Sa: 12-6Sublord of Ju is Me+: 12Starlord of Me is Ke: 7; Sgl Ju(11-5-8, Asp Mo[3]); Stl Sa(12-6)Planet Sa:Starlord of Sa is Ke: 7; Sgl Ju(11-5-8, Asp Mo[3]); Stl Sa(12-6)Sublord of Sa is Me+: 12Starlord of Me is Ke: 7; Sgl Ju(11-5-8, Asp Mo[3]); Stl Sa(12-6)Planet Me+: 12Starlord of Me is Ke: 7; Sgl Ju(11-5-8, Asp Mo[3]); Stl Sa(12-6)Sublord of Me is Ma*: 2-4-9Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 2-4-93. ACTUAL EVENT25-12-2005 (Me-Sa-Ve DBA) marriage4. OBSERVATION1) Me & Sa are capable of marriage by clearly signifying marriagehouses, 2,7,11 & 5,8.2) Antara lord can also give marriage by Su Asp 7 according to the 4Step Book, but not as per what Shri Raichur is saying in this regard.3) Transit agreed with the DBA. Me was transiting in own star of Me,Sa in the sub of Ju and Ve in the star of Su, which signify marriagehouses in the first two steps and were not in retrograde. , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:>> Dear Gondhalekar> > Thank you > > The problem is the books are not available at chennai or salem. Can you tell the place where I can get your books> > Dhanabalan> > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar sunilalaka wrote:> > sunil gondhalekar sunilalaka Re: 4 step theory> > Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 5:30 AM> > > > > > > > dear dhanabalan,> specific rules are given in my book.better study that instead of studying> guide provided by someone else.> my views are clear and if somebody uses its own rules then how i can answer> to your queries> -sunil gondhalekar> > On 8/12/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gondhalekar > > I understand that Rahu/Ketu do not aspect each other(No planetary aspect). > According to 4 step theory, any planet within 3.20' degree orb to the cusp, that planet becomes the primary significator of that cusp. > > If Rahu/Ketu is within 3.20' degree orb to the cusp, it becomes the primary significator of that cusp like any other planet and the Rahu/Ketu will aspect the 7th cusp also. > > If Rahu/Ketu is a primary significator, it will represent the conjoined and aspected planets also. > > The following is taken from Mr.Tin Win's study notes on 4 step theory, > > "Whether to take into consideration of all primary significators or to exclude some of them, especially significators by 7th aspect is up to the own judgement and preference of an astrologer. If 7th aspect is not taken in to consideration, Rahu/Ketu's opposite 7th aspect on a cusp will be automatically ruled out. Depending on which option is chosen, the result can be entirely different." > > My doubt: > It is said that the result can be entirely different if 7th aspect is not taken. > If it is so, the author should not leave the chance to the astrologer to choose the 7th aspect of the significators. The author must be specific. > > Whether the author recommends the 7th planetary aspect of significators or not? > Whether the author recommends the 7th cusp aspect of significators or not? > > Thank you > Dhanabalan> > --- On Tue, 8/12/08, sunil gondhalekar sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > sunil gondhalekar sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> Re: 4 step theory> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 5:17 AM> > > > > > dear dhanabalan,> in 4 step theory,rahu/ ketu aspects only if they are on cusp and if strong.they dont> aspect each other.> in my practice i use aspect/conj. and it gives me the success.the theory> is open to everybody and which rules to be applied/omitted are depends> on each and every astrologer.i cant say to stop them.> in general 4 step theory is having contradictory rules to original kp method.> but each and every rule is taken from KSK principles.> whether it is agrred by each and everyone is not at all necessary.> thanks > -sunil gondhalekar> > On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gondhalekar> > In 4 step theory, it is mentioned that the Rahu/Ketu has the 7th aspect. > > It is also mentioned that a well known practioner does not use the 7th aspect of planets. > > Rahu/Ketu being the shadowy planets, they have no aspect is the basic rule in k.p. > > It seems this rule is contradictory to the k.p. rules.> > Dhanabalan> > >