Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Dear Gondhalekar Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is considered as the strongest. It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. Why the strongest RP is not considered in 4 step theory. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 dear dhanabalan, it is taken if needed.and then consider as strong. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dear Gondhalekar Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is considered as the strongest. It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. Why the strongest RP is not considered in 4 step theory. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Dear Gondhalekar You are leaving it to the coice of the astrologer. My doubt is why you have not considered the star lord of lagna? What do you want to convey to the members? Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalakaRe: Ruling planets Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:31 AM dear dhanabalan, it is taken if needed.and then consider as strong. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is considered as the strongest. It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. Why the strongest RP is not considered in 4 step theory. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 dear dhanabalan, myself believes to take only 4 ruling planets,but while in practice sometime we need to take this asc.starlord.thats why i say if needed. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/14/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dear Gondhalekar You are leaving it to the coice of the astrologer. My doubt is why you have not considered the star lord of lagna? What do you want to convey to the members? Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka Re: Ruling planets Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:31 AM dear dhanabalan, it is taken if needed.and then consider as strong. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is considered as the strongest. It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. Why the strongest RP is not considered in 4 step theory. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan Though u addressed the mail to Mr Gondhalekar, I am answering it. I am a follower of 4step theory and I am using regularly lagna star lord (5planets)in RP, as its my choice and he never said NOT TO USE IT. U have to read K P thoroughly to understand 4step as it is an extension of kp only, and 4 step is nothing without kp. Plz dont get prejudiced against 4steps before practicing it. I was a strict k p follower and never wanted to shift on 4step but when I tried it practically, I have shifted myself to 4step because of its accuracy and simplicity. The person who is well versed in kp can only understand 4steps so it should be his or her choice to use or not to use lagna star lord in RP. Mr Gondhalekar has introduced 4steps but astrologers has to use little brain according to his or her experience in KP & RP along with 4steps. etc. I think no need to do spoonfeeding for all such small things. On the contrary he will welcome new rules established for 4steps As it is a study forum, intelligent people like you should study it practically and give the opinion instead of doing only queries or showing faults. Those who don't get results and dpnt like 4step, can forget it. Hoping for your positive attitude Regards Sheetal On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dear Gondhalekar You are leaving it to the coice of the astrologer. My doubt is why you have not considered the star lord of lagna? What do you want to convey to the members? Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalakaRe: Ruling planets Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:31 AM dear dhanabalan, it is taken if needed.and then consider as strong. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is considered as the strongest. It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. Why the strongest RP is not considered in 4 step theory. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Dear Sheetal Thank you for your reply. I agree that the 4 step method is based on k.p.rules. Whenever I find any deviation from k.p.rules, I want to clarify my doubts from this forum. Ruling planets is one of my doubts. It is left to the choice of the astrologers. But my doubt is not yet answered. However, I shall take all the five RPs are there in 4 step like in k.p. Another doubt is the juding the conjoined and aspecting planets again. You might have noticed that the two softwares Astrokundali and KPASTRO giving two different significators for the 4 step method. It seems there is some confusion in judging the significators again in the KPASTRO software. Why the other persons have not raised that question so far. Only after my intervention, KPASTRO has accepted to redesign the programme. I have no 4 step book with me at present. So I am clarifying my doubts in this forum. It does not mean that I am prejudiced against 4 step or k.p. Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Sheetal <ratnamalagRe: Ruling planets Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 2:35 PM Dear Dhanabalan Though u addressed the mail to Mr Gondhalekar, I am answering it. I am a follower of 4step theory and I am using regularly lagna star lord (5planets)in RP, as its my choice and he never said NOT TO USE IT. U have to read K P thoroughly to understand 4step as it is an extension of kp only, and 4 step is nothing without kp. Plz dont get prejudiced against 4steps before practicing it. I was a strict k p follower and never wanted to shift on 4step but when I tried it practically, I have shifted myself to 4step because of its accuracy and simplicity. The person who is well versed in kp can only understand 4steps so it should be his or her choice to use or not to use lagna star lord in RP. Mr Gondhalekar has introduced 4steps but astrologers has to use little brain according to his or her experience in KP & RP along with 4steps. etc. I think no need to do spoonfeeding for all such small things. On the contrary he will welcome new rules established for 4steps As it is a study forum, intelligent people like you should study it practically and give the opinion instead of doing only queries or showing faults. Those who don't get results and dpnt like 4step, can forget it. Hoping for your positive attitude Regards Sheetal On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar You are leaving it to the coice of the astrologer. My doubt is why you have not considered the star lord of lagna? What do you want to convey to the members? Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Ruling planets@gro ups.comWednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:31 AM dear dhanabalan, it is taken if needed.and then consider as strong. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is considered as the strongest. It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. Why the strongest RP is not considered in 4 step theory. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Respected Members, Sir/Madam, Let us not forget that Mr. Dhanabalan has, on occassions, praised Four-step theory as the only method incprporating all the KP principles and so we should not question his bonafides when he makes a certain querry. regards, sujat. , Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > > Dear Dhanabalan > > Though u addressed the mail to Mr Gondhalekar, I am answering it. I am a > follower of 4step theory and I am using regularly lagna star lord > (5planets)in RP, as its my choice and he never said NOT TO USE IT. U have > to read K P thoroughly to understand 4step as it is an extension of kp only, > and 4 step is nothing without kp. Plz dont get prejudiced against 4steps > before practicing it. I was a strict k p follower and never wanted to shift > on 4step but when I tried it practically, I have shifted myself to 4step > because of its accuracy and simplicity. > > The person who is well versed in kp can only understand 4steps so it should > be his or her choice to use or not to use lagna star lord in RP. Mr > Gondhalekar has introduced 4steps but astrologers has to use little brain > according to his or her experience in KP & RP along with 4steps. etc. I > think no need to do spoonfeeding for all such small things. On the contrary > he will welcome new rules established for 4steps As it is a study forum, > intelligent people like you should study it practically and give the opinion > instead of doing only queries or showing faults. Those who don't get > results and dpnt like 4step, can forget it. > > Hoping for your positive attitude > Regards > Sheetal On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanwrote: > > > Dear Gondhalekar > > > > You are leaving it to the coice of the astrologer. > > My doubt is why you have not considered the star lord of lagna? > > What do you want to convey to the members? > > > > Dhanabalan > > > > --- On *Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka* wrote: > > > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka > > Re: Ruling planets > > > > Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:31 AM > > > > dear dhanabalan, > > it is taken if needed.and then consider as strong. > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ <r.dhanabalan> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Gondhalekar > >> > >> Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also > >> in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is > >> considered as the strongest. > >> > >> It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 > >> step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. > >> > >> Why the strongest RP is not considered in 4 step theory. > >> > >> Dhanabalan > >> > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan You can say it is modification rather than deviation from kp rules which is the need for accuracy of the results from time to time. According to me, 1st essential thing is to know all the rules(theoretical) correctly, of any method( kp,4steps etc) from the books or from a teacher. 2nd thing is you should have a natal or horary chart with all accurate cuspal and planetary subs so that u can draw your conclusions near accuracy. For this if u have correct sw then ur time is saved but still u have to make final corrections manually according to individual requirement, this is my opinion. According to me,there is no such perfect instant SW as a ready reckoner yet, at least for 4step. If there is any, I will like to purchase it. 3rd most imp thing is prediction part which is a total individual skill along with the knowledge of application of the rules There may be a confusion in Astrology-SWs and it should not make any difference as far as all cusp and planet degrees are accurate and it gives accurate subs. I have experienced lot of problems due to soft wares. I have 3 soft wares but no one has ready 4step. I make 4step chart manually for each horary and natal horoscope. It is little time consuming but no option for me till a good SW comes in market for 4step charts. If you really want to study/follow 4steps, use any one accurate kp software and try to make few manual 4step chart from it and ur all confusion will be cleared. For that you should know all 4step rules perfectly.Don't be after instant ready made 4step charts initially. Solve and give prediction. Don't worry for wrong predictions. Once u get correct or near correct answers for ur query, I think all ur doubts in software and 4steps rules will be cleared. I guess this will help u so I wrote, but don't take this as my advice. I am not very experienced and still I am the student of kp 4steps. There may be confusion in astro sw but rules are very clear which u can read in Mr Gondhalekar's book and if u still have some confusion u can attend his workshops whenever he conducts it. Regards Sheetal On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dear Sheetal Thank you for your reply.nt I agree that the 4 step method is based on k.p.rules. Whenever I find any deviation from k.p.rules, I want to clarify my doubts from this forum. Ruling planets is one of my doubts. It is left to the choice of the astrologers. But my doubt is not yet answered. However, I shall take all the five RPs are there in 4 step like in k.p. Another doubt is the juding the conjoined and aspecting planets again. You might have noticed that the two softwares Astrokundali and KPASTRO giving two different significators for the 4 step method. It seems there is some confusion in judging the significators again in the KPASTRO software. Why the other persons have not raised that question so far. Only after my intervention, KPASTRO has accepted to redesign the programme. I have no 4 step book with me at present. So I am clarifying my doubts in this forum. It does not mean that I am prejudiced against 4 step or k.p. Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Sheetal <ratnamalag Re: Ruling planets Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 2:35 PM Dear Dhanabalan Though u addressed the mail to Mr Gondhalekar, I am answering it. I am a follower of 4step theory and I am using regularly lagna star lord (5planets)in RP, as its my choice and he never said NOT TO USE IT. U have to read K P thoroughly to understand 4step as it is an extension of kp only, and 4 step is nothing without kp. Plz dont get prejudiced against 4steps before practicing it. I was a strict k p follower and never wanted to shift on 4step but when I tried it practically, I have shifted myself to 4step because of its accuracy and simplicity. The person who is well versed in kp can only understand 4steps so it should be his or her choice to use or not to use lagna star lord in RP. Mr Gondhalekar has introduced 4steps but astrologers has to use little brain according to his or her experience in KP & RP along with 4steps. etc. I think no need to do spoonfeeding for all such small things. On the contrary he will welcome new rules established for 4steps As it is a study forum, intelligent people like you should study it practically and give the opinion instead of doing only queries or showing faults. Those who don't get results and dpnt like 4step, can forget it. Hoping for your positive attitude Regards Sheetal On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar You are leaving it to the coice of the astrologer. My doubt is why you have not considered the star lord of lagna? What do you want to convey to the members? Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Ruling planets@gro ups.com Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:31 AM dear dhanabalan, it is taken if needed.and then consider as strong. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is considered as the strongest. It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. 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Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Dear Madam, I do agree to full extent with your openion and suggestions. Dr. Luther Sheetal <ratnamalag Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:34:53 AMRe: Ruling planets Dear Dhanabalan You can say it is modification rather than deviation from kp rules which is the need for accuracy of the results from time to time. According to me, 1st essential thing is to know all the rules(theoretical) correctly, of any method( kp,4steps etc) from the books or from a teacher. 2nd thing is you should have a natal or horary chart with all accurate cuspal and planetary subs so that u can draw your conclusions near accuracy. For this if u have correct sw then ur time is saved but still u have to make final corrections manually according to individual requirement, this is my opinion. According to me,there is no such perfect instant SW as a ready reckoner yet, at least for 4step. If there is any, I will like to purchase it. 3rd most imp thing is prediction part which is a total individual skill along with the knowledge of application of the rules There may be a confusion in Astrology-SWs and it should not make any difference as far as all cusp and planet degrees are accurate and it gives accurate subs. I have experienced lot of problems due to soft wares. I have 3 soft wares but no one has ready 4step. I make 4step chart manually for each horary and natal horoscope. It is little time consuming but no option for me till a good SW comes in market for 4step charts. If you really want to study/follow 4steps, use any one accurate kp software and try to make few manual 4step chart from it and ur all confusion will be cleared. For that you should know all 4step rules perfectly.Don't be after instant ready made 4step charts initially. Solve and give prediction. Don't worry for wrong predictions. Once u get correct or near correct answers for ur query, I think all ur doubts in software and 4steps rules will be cleared. I guess this will help u so I wrote, but don't take this as my advice. I am not very experienced and still I am the student of kp 4steps. There may be confusion in astro sw but rules are very clear which u can read in Mr Gondhalekar's book and if u still have some confusion u can attend his workshops whenever he conducts it. Regards Sheetal On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Sheetal Thank you for your reply.nt I agree that the 4 step method is based on k.p.rules. Whenever I find any deviation from k.p.rules, I want to clarify my doubts from this forum. Ruling planets is one of my doubts. It is left to the choice of the astrologers. But my doubt is not yet answered. However, I shall take all the five RPs are there in 4 step like in k.p. Another doubt is the juding the conjoined and aspecting planets again. You might have noticed that the two softwares Astrokundali and KPASTRO giving two different significators for the 4 step method. It seems there is some confusion in judging the significators again in the KPASTRO software. Why the other persons have not raised that question so far. Only after my intervention, KPASTRO has accepted to redesign the programme. I have no 4 step book with me at present. So I am clarifying my doubts in this forum. It does not mean that I am prejudiced against 4 step or k.p. Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Ruling planets@gro ups.comSunday, August 17, 2008, 2:35 PM Dear Dhanabalan Though u addressed the mail to Mr Gondhalekar, I am answering it. I am a follower of 4step theory and I am using regularly lagna star lord (5planets)in RP, as its my choice and he never said NOT TO USE IT. U have to read K P thoroughly to understand 4step as it is an extension of kp only, and 4 step is nothing without kp. Plz dont get prejudiced against 4steps before practicing it. I was a strict k p follower and never wanted to shift on 4step but when I tried it practically, I have shifted myself to 4step because of its accuracy and simplicity. The person who is well versed in kp can only understand 4steps so it should be his or her choice to use or not to use lagna star lord in RP. Mr Gondhalekar has introduced 4steps but astrologers has to use little brain according to his or her experience in KP & RP along with 4steps. etc. I think no need to do spoonfeeding for all such small things. On the contrary he will welcome new rules established for 4steps As it is a study forum, intelligent people like you should study it practically and give the opinion instead of doing only queries or showing faults. Those who don't get results and dpnt like 4step, can forget it. Hoping for your positive attitude Regards Sheetal On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar You are leaving it to the coice of the astrologer. My doubt is why you have not considered the star lord of lagna? What do you want to convey to the members? Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Ruling planets@gro ups.com Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:31 AM dear dhanabalan, it is taken if needed.and then consider as strong. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is considered as the strongest. It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. 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Guest guest Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Dear All, After the authority of 4 step Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar ji having clearly said " >>in general 4 step theory is having contradictory rules to original kp method. (Msg#18668) " , is it necessary to say " You can say it is modification rather than deviation from kp rules " ? Regards, tw , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Madam, > I do agree to full extent with your openion and suggestions. > Dr. Luther > > > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag > > Monday, August 18, 2008 4:34:53 AM > Re: Ruling planets > > > Dear Dhanabalan > > You can say it is modification rather than deviation from kp rules which is the need for accuracy of the results from time to time. > > According to me, > 1st essential thing is to know all the rules(theoretical) correctly, of any method( kp,4steps etc) from the books or from a teacher. > 2nd thing is you should have a natal or horary chart with all accurate cuspal and planetary subs so that u can draw your conclusions near accuracy. For this if u have correct sw then ur time is saved but still u have to make final corrections manually according to individual requirement, this is my opinion. > According to me,there is no such perfect instant SW as a ready reckoner yet, at least for 4step. If there is any, I will like to purchase it. > 3rd most imp thing is prediction part which is a total individual skill along with the knowledge of application of the rules > > There may be a confusion in Astrology-SWs and it should not make any difference as far as all cusp and planet degrees are accurate and it gives accurate subs. I have experienced lot of problems due to soft wares. I have 3 soft wares but no one has ready 4step. I make 4step chart manually for each horary and natal horoscope.. It is little time consuming but no option for me till a good SW comes in market for 4step charts. > > If you really want to study/follow 4steps, use any one accurate kp software and try to make few manual 4step chart from it and ur all confusion will be cleared. For that you should know all 4step rules perfectly.Don't be after instant ready made 4step charts initially. Solve and give prediction. Don't worry for wrong predictions. Once u get correct or near correct answers for ur query, I think all ur doubts in software and 4steps rules will be cleared. I guess this will help u so I wrote, but don't take this as my advice. I am not very experienced and still I am the student of kp 4steps. There may be confusion in astro sw but rules are very clear which u can read in Mr Gondhalekar's book and if u still have some confusion u can attend his workshops whenever he conducts it. > > Regards > Sheetal > > > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: > > Dear Sheetal > > Thank you for your reply.nt > I agree that the 4 step method is based on k.p.rules. > Whenever I find any deviation from k.p.rules, I want to clarify my doubts from this forum. > Ruling planets is one of my doubts. It is left to the choice of the astrologers. But my doubt is not yet answered. However, I shall take all the five RPs are there in 4 step like in k.p. > > Another doubt is the juding the conjoined and aspecting planets again. You might have noticed that the two softwares Astrokundali and KPASTRO giving two different significators for the 4 step method. It seems there is some confusion in judging the significators again in the KPASTRO software. > > Why the other persons have not raised that question so far. Only after my intervention, KPASTRO has accepted to redesign the programme. > > I have no 4 step book with me at present. So I am clarifying my doubts in this forum. It does not mean that I am prejudiced against 4 step or k.p. > > Dhanabalan > > > --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > Re: Ruling planets > @gro ups.com > Sunday, August 17, 2008, 2:35 PM > > > Dear Dhanabalan > > Though u addressed the mail to Mr Gondhalekar, I am answering it. I am a follower of 4step theory and I am using regularly lagna star lord (5planets)in RP, as its my choice and he never said NOT TO USE IT. U have to read K P thoroughly to understand 4step as it is an extension of kp only, and 4 step is nothing without kp. Plz dont get prejudiced against 4steps before practicing it. I was a strict k p follower and never wanted to shift on 4step but when I tried it practically, I have shifted myself to 4step because of its accuracy and simplicity. > > The person who is well versed in kp can only understand 4steps so it should be his or her choice to use or not to use lagna star lord in RP. Mr Gondhalekar has introduced 4steps but astrologers has to use little brain according to his or her experience in KP & RP along with 4steps. etc. I think no need to do spoonfeeding for all such small things. On the contrary he will welcome new rules established for 4steps As it is a study forum, intelligent people like you should study it practically and give the opinion instead of doing only queries or showing faults. Those who don't get results and dpnt like 4step, can forget it. > > Hoping for your positive attitude > Regards > Sheetal > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: > > Dear Gondhalekar > > You are leaving it to the coice of the astrologer. > My doubt is why you have not considered the star lord of lagna? > What do you want to convey to the members? > > Dhanabalan > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > Re: Ruling planets > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:31 AM > > > > dear dhanabalan, > it is taken if needed.and then consider as strong. > -sunil gondhalekar > > > On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: > Dear Gondhalekar > > Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is considered as the strongest. > > It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. > > Why the strongest RP is not considered in 4 step theory. > > Dhanabalan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Dear Dr Luther Thanks and regards Dr Sheetal On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Dear Madam, I do agree to full extent with your openion and suggestions. Dr. Luther Sheetal <ratnamalag Monday, August 18, 2008 4:34:53 AMRe: Ruling planets Dear Dhanabalan You can say it is modification rather than deviation from kp rules which is the need for accuracy of the results from time to time. According to me, 1st essential thing is to know all the rules(theoretical) correctly, of any method( kp,4steps etc) from the books or from a teacher. 2nd thing is you should have a natal or horary chart with all accurate cuspal and planetary subs so that u can draw your conclusions near accuracy. For this if u have correct sw then ur time is saved but still u have to make final corrections manually according to individual requirement, this is my opinion. According to me,there is no such perfect instant SW as a ready reckoner yet, at least for 4step. If there is any, I will like to purchase it. 3rd most imp thing is prediction part which is a total individual skill along with the knowledge of application of the rules There may be a confusion in Astrology-SWs and it should not make any difference as far as all cusp and planet degrees are accurate and it gives accurate subs. I have experienced lot of problems due to soft wares. I have 3 soft wares but no one has ready 4step. I make 4step chart manually for each horary and natal horoscope. It is little time consuming but no option for me till a good SW comes in market for 4step charts. If you really want to study/follow 4steps, use any one accurate kp software and try to make few manual 4step chart from it and ur all confusion will be cleared. For that you should know all 4step rules perfectly.Don't be after instant ready made 4step charts initially. Solve and give prediction. Don't worry for wrong predictions. Once u get correct or near correct answers for ur query, I think all ur doubts in software and 4steps rules will be cleared. I guess this will help u so I wrote, but don't take this as my advice. I am not very experienced and still I am the student of kp 4steps. There may be confusion in astro sw but rules are very clear which u can read in Mr Gondhalekar's book and if u still have some confusion u can attend his workshops whenever he conducts it. Regards Sheetal On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Sheetal Thank you for your reply.nt I agree that the 4 step method is based on k.p.rules. Whenever I find any deviation from k.p.rules, I want to clarify my doubts from this forum. Ruling planets is one of my doubts. It is left to the choice of the astrologers. But my doubt is not yet answered. However, I shall take all the five RPs are there in 4 step like in k.p. Another doubt is the juding the conjoined and aspecting planets again. You might have noticed that the two softwares Astrokundali and KPASTRO giving two different significators for the 4 step method. It seems there is some confusion in judging the significators again in the KPASTRO software. Why the other persons have not raised that question so far. Only after my intervention, KPASTRO has accepted to redesign the programme. I have no 4 step book with me at present. So I am clarifying my doubts in this forum. It does not mean that I am prejudiced against 4 step or k.p. Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Ruling planets@gro ups.com Sunday, August 17, 2008, 2:35 PM Dear Dhanabalan Though u addressed the mail to Mr Gondhalekar, I am answering it. I am a follower of 4step theory and I am using regularly lagna star lord (5planets)in RP, as its my choice and he never said NOT TO USE IT. U have to read K P thoroughly to understand 4step as it is an extension of kp only, and 4 step is nothing without kp. Plz dont get prejudiced against 4steps before practicing it. I was a strict k p follower and never wanted to shift on 4step but when I tried it practically, I have shifted myself to 4step because of its accuracy and simplicity. The person who is well versed in kp can only understand 4steps so it should be his or her choice to use or not to use lagna star lord in RP. Mr Gondhalekar has introduced 4steps but astrologers has to use little brain according to his or her experience in KP & RP along with 4steps. etc. I think no need to do spoonfeeding for all such small things. On the contrary he will welcome new rules established for 4steps As it is a study forum, intelligent people like you should study it practically and give the opinion instead of doing only queries or showing faults. Those who don't get results and dpnt like 4step, can forget it. Hoping for your positive attitude Regards Sheetal On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar You are leaving it to the coice of the astrologer. My doubt is why you have not considered the star lord of lagna? What do you want to convey to the members? Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Ruling planets@gro ups.com Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:31 AM dear dhanabalan, it is taken if needed.and then consider as strong. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Gondhalekar Mr.KSK has taken 5 Ruling Planets in his original volumes(1966) and also in the present k.p.Readers. Among the 5 RP, the lagna star lord is considered as the strongest. It is said that the 4 step theory incorporates all the k.p.rules. In the 4 step theory, the lagna star lord is not taken as RP. 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