k.p.Readers

August 10, 2008

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub¢s star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub¢s star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK¢s time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub¢s star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

August 10, 2008

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The " Cusps and Subs- How to Judge " at the end of " Theoretical Part " , (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, " This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success. " simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The " Cusps and Subs- How to Judge " at the end of " Theoretical Part " , (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, " This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success. " simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

" tw853 " <tw853

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are " ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR " , the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The " Cusps and Subs- How to Judge " at the end of " Theoretical Part " , (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, " This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success. " simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

" As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter. "

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

August 10, 2008

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

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@gro ups.com

1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

August 10, 2008

dear Naidu garu

well said-

rao

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalanRe: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 6:09 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

@gro ups.com

1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

August 10, 2008

Dear Chitturu

Because it is not giving the result, I am emphazing.

In salem, about 854 persons learned k.p. but only about 20 persons are in line. Almost all are giving predictions by blending some other method with k.p.

One group is using sub's star theory and another group is using sub's sub' star theory.

Now 4 step theory is using the both.

Not giving the result is the fact.

Dhanabalan.--- On Sun, 8/10/08, rao chitturu <csr162002 wrote:

rao chitturu <csr162002Re: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 1:08 PM

dear Naidu garu

well said-

rao

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 6:09 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

@gro ups.com

1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

August 10, 2008

Dear Naidu

What you are telling is correct.

The k.p.syatem in Readers was tested with about 800 astrologers at salem, it failed.

Even the practicing astrologers are under confusion. One group is using sub's star theory and other group is using sub's sub's star theory and the third group is using only horary(according to this group both sub' star theory and sub's sub's star theory are not suitable for them).

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalanRe: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

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August 10, 2008

Dear sri Dhanabalan Ji,Pl see the articles "Child Sex Confirmation Theory" and "reinstatement of Judges in Pakistan" in KPE-zine of July 2008. You may be surprised to observe that sub sub's sub sub's sub's star lord is considered in confirming the child sex - Page 35 KPE-zine july 2008. sub lord's star lord's star lord is considered in the article Reinstatement of judges page 45 KPE-zine July, 2008.The stretching of stellar theory is going beyond any limits. Let us see to what it will be stretched. I am afraid ultimately where we land and we may leave and forget the original KP basics.But the Time is the deciding factor. Many theories are coming in KP. SURVIVAL IS THE FITTEST.Regards,Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji

Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 7:19 PM

Dear Naidu

What you are telling is correct.

The k.p.syatem in Readers was tested with about 800 astrologers at salem, it failed.

Even the practicing astrologers are under confusion. One group is using sub's star theory and other group is using sub's sub's star theory and the third group is using only horary(according to this group both sub' star theory and sub's sub's star theory are not suitable for them).

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

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August 10, 2008

Dear Naidu

Professor Vaithialingam taught k.p.astrology for about 850 persons at salem District in Tamilnadu for the past 17 years. In the annual book of 23-1-2005 in page 16, he states as,

” There are two groups of k.p.astrologers in our association. One group says that 7th cusp sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised. The other group says that 7th cusp sub’s sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised.”

Now you may understand what I mean.

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalanRe: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

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August 11, 2008

Dear Punit Pandeyji

Whether Guruji has written or anybody else has written,does this work or not is the point.

If Dhanabalanji could be kind enough to predict based on 2 different methods and prove the one he said is correct,then he can be crowned.

Would the honourable forum request him to provide the examples applying the one said to be written by KSK and the one he-Dhanabalan,rejects to be KSK's work.tkp ghopal--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 10:33 AM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

August 11, 2008

MR.Dhanabalan

MAy I know where from you got this statistics of 854 astrologers in and around Salem?

The fact is Prof.Vaithialingam conducts classes on KP system for the past 20 years.

More than 1000 people have joined his classes.I joined his classes 12 years back.

For example say 30 people joins and only 5 or 6 people complete the course and may be 1 start giving prediction.Sometimes that too not there.

But the Prof.use to maintain the dairy of those people joined in the initial outset.

We used to pursue those dairies during our annual function and send invitations.

It cannot mean that all of them are astrologers.May be 10 or 15 practice and since they are all professionals they use whatever the way is proving friutful.Only 4 or 5 people can claim to be kp astrologers,because we dont know much of other systems.

Hence I would request Mr.Dhanabaln not to mislead the forum of 854 and odd astrologers have failed ....etc.

Thanking you

tkp ghopal--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 1:41 PM

Dear Chitturu

Because it is not giving the result, I am emphazing.

In salem, about 854 persons learned k.p. but only about 20 persons are in line. Almost all are giving predictions by blending some other method with k.p.

One group is using sub's star theory and another group is using sub's sub' star theory.

Now 4 step theory is using the both.

Not giving the result is the fact.

Dhanabalan.--- On Sun, 8/10/08, rao chitturu <csr162002 > wrote:

rao chitturu <csr162002 >Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 1:08 PM

dear Naidu garu

well said-

rao

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 6:09 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

@gro ups.com

1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

August 11, 2008

Dear Gopal

Do you agree the following or not.

Professor Vaithialingam taught k.p.astrology for about 850 persons at salem District in Tamilnadu for the past 17 years. In the annual book of 23-1-2005 in page 16, he states as,

” There are two groups of k.p.astrologers in our association. One group says that 7th cusp sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised. The other group says that 7th cusp sub’s sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised.”

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 8/11/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp wrote:

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkpRe: k.p.Readers Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 12:56 PM

Dear Punit Pandeyji

Whether Guruji has written or anybody else has written,does this work or not is the point.

If Dhanabalanji could be kind enough to predict based on 2 different methods and prove the one he said is correct,then he can be crowned.

Would the honourable forum request him to provide the examples applying the one said to be written by KSK and the one he-Dhanabalan, rejects to be KSK's work.tkp ghopal--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 10:33 AM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4... tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

August 12, 2008

Thanks sri Rao garu.

Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, rao chitturu <csr162002 wrote:

rao chitturu <csr162002Re: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 6:38 PM

dear Naidu garu

well said-

rao

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 6:09 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

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Mr.Dhanabalan's observations, dedication, experience is highly appreciable - Yet one must notice that PREDICTIVE SKILLS are highly personal and very time bound (Ruling planets influence) - Mathematical accuracies are essential but not to the extent of erroding predictive skills of the astrologers - sub / sub-sub are mostly based on the mathematical calculations which are guidelines for predictions - There are no lines in the Cosmic set up - they are imaginary - Predictive skills depened on how best one can log on to the Cosmic Server - the Karma of the native also play a role in the predictve role of astrologer -

- there are only 27 stars-9 planets - 12 signs and 12 bhavas - to make many permutations and combinations - With this anything can be proved / disproved in astrology-

I SIMPLY MEAN TO SAY 800 ASTROLGERS NUMBER IS NOT ADEQUATE TO PROVE / DISPROVE A SYSTEM.

NO BODY CAN DRAW A LINE FOR THE USE OF A SYSTEM WHEREIN AN ASTROLOGER HAS DEVELOPED HIS OWN WAY OF PREDICTION -

IF THE PREDICTIONS ARE WRONG - HE WILL BE ELIMINBATED By THE SOCIETY.

IF THE PREDICTIONS ARE GOOD HE CANNOT DUMP HIS THEORY / CRITICISE OTHERS THEORIES.

However, good discussions are on the forum - thought provking - I am not against it.

rao , hyderabad

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 7:19 PM

Dear Naidu

What you are telling is correct.

The k.p.syatem in Readers was tested with about 800 astrologers at salem, it failed.

Even the practicing astrologers are under confusion. One group is using sub's star theory and other group is using sub's sub's star theory and the third group is using only horary(according to this group both sub' star theory and sub's sub's star theory are not suitable for them).

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

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Dear Gopal

I am not deviating much from your statement.

1) “MAy I know where from you got this statistics of 854 astrologers in and around Salem?

The fact is Prof.Vaithialingam conducts classes on KP system for the past 20 years.

More than 1000 people have joined his classes.I joined his classes 12 years back..”

But the Prof.use to maintain the dairy of those people joined in the initial outset.

We used to pursue those dairies during our annual function and send invitations.

Dhanabalan’s reply:

About 10 days back, in my message I mentioned that about 800 persons studied under Mr.Vaithialingam for the past 7 years. I met you in person in your office, you corrected me that the number is around 854 and the span is 17 years. So I have used 854 and 17 in my subsequent messages. In every annual public meeting, it is praised that Mr.Vaithialingam has taught astrology for about 850 persons. The exact figures of how many joined and how many completed the course were not revealed to the public. According to you, more than 1000 people joined the course may be correct. Of those 1000 people, 850 people might have completed the course. Hence the number 850 is not a disputable one. The span may be 20 years. There is no much difference between 17 and 20

years span.

The self made statement says that more than 1000 persons joined. It is in Mr.Vaithialingam’s diary. All are being sent the invitation for the general annual meeting.

2) It cannot mean that all of them are astrologers.

May be 10 or 15 practice and since they are all professionals they use whatever the way is proving friutful.Only 4 or 5 people can claim to be kp astrologers, because we dont know much of other systems.

For example say 30 people joins and only 5 or 6 people complete the course and may be 1 start giving prediction.Sometime s that too not there.

Dhanabalan’s reply:

His own statement says that only about 15 persons are practicing out of the 850. He accepts that about 10 persons out of 15 are giving prediction by blending some other system with k.p. He accepts that only 5 persons are following k.p. only because they are not familiar with other system. Mr.Gopal is confirming my earlier statements.

The question is whether these 5 persons are able to give correct predictions only with k.p.?

The answer is NO. Let us take Mr.Gopal. Since it is not possible for him to give correct prediction with the existing system, he is using the progression chart based on vimsothari and cuspal links. Not satisfying with that, now he has introduced a new theory sub navamsa, sub sub navamsa and sub sub sub navamsa in his computer software. Mr.Gopal is using kp straightline ayanamsa based on the recommendation of late Mr.Mohan.

Mr.Mohankumar knows only k.p. He learned cuspal link from Mr.Bhaskaran. He learned further from Dr.Kar. He blended cuspal link theory, Mr.KAR’s theory and some other theories and he formulated his own method to give prediction. In the last annual meeting he said that the k.p.astrologers should give prediction only in k.p. For that he faced lot of opposition for his statement from k.p.astrologers. Mr.Mohankumar asked late Mr.Mohan what is the necessity to go for progression. Mr.Mohan replied that the predictions failed in the general k.p. method.

Mr.Thiruvengadam is the other person using only k.p. for prediction. He is a retired Bank employee. He started his prediction during the year 1999 using sub’s star theory. Since it is not giving result, he swiched over to sub’s sub’s star theory from 2003 based on Mr.KMS rules in “sublord speaks”. He is using the kp straightline ayanamsa. He rectified the birth time to me, to my daughter and to my son. The other k.p. stalwart Mr.Ponnaiah did not agree the rectification since Mr.Ponnaiah is using sub’s star theory. Mr.Ponnaiah rectified my daughter’s birth time but Mr.Thiruvengadam did not agree the rectified time. No one denies that there are two groups one is in favour of sub’s star and the other is in favour of sub sub star.

3) Hence I would request Mr.Dhanabaln not to mislead the forum of 854 and odd astrologers have failed ....etc.

Dhanabalan’s reply:

Out of 850 persons only 15 are in line. What about the other 835 persons. Whether all the 835 persons have studied k.p. for time passing. Whether all the 835 persons are retired from service. In fact, most of them are from below middle class family in the middle age group. In the intention to become commercial astrologer to earn money to run their family, they have studied k.p. is the fact. If not 835, let me take the figure as 700 leaving other 135 has studied for time passing.

So, I have not mislead the forum. What I told so far is the fact only.

Dhanabalan.--- On Mon, 8/11/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp wrote:

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkpRe: k.p.Readers Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 1:20 PM

MR.Dhanabalan

MAy I know where from you got this statistics of 854 astrologers in and around Salem?

The fact is Prof.Vaithialingam conducts classes on KP system for the past 20 years.

More than 1000 people have joined his classes.I joined his classes 12 years back.

For example say 30 people joins and only 5 or 6 people complete the course and may be 1 start giving prediction.Sometime s that too not there.

But the Prof.use to maintain the dairy of those people joined in the initial outset.

We used to pursue those dairies during our annual function and send invitations.

It cannot mean that all of them are astrologers.May be 10 or 15 practice and since they are all professionals they use whatever the way is proving friutful.Only 4 or 5 people can claim to be kp astrologers, because we dont know much of other systems.

Hence I would request Mr.Dhanabaln not to mislead the forum of 854 and odd astrologers have failed ....etc.

Thanking you

tkp ghopal--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 1:41 PM

Dear Chitturu

Because it is not giving the result, I am emphazing.

In salem, about 854 persons learned k.p. but only about 20 persons are in line. Almost all are giving predictions by blending some other method with k.p.

One group is using sub's star theory and another group is using sub's sub' star theory.

Now 4 step theory is using the both.

Not giving the result is the fact.

Dhanabalan.--- On Sun, 8/10/08, rao chitturu <csr162002 > wrote:

rao chitturu <csr162002 >Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 1:08 PM

dear Naidu garu

well said-

rao

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 6:09 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

@gro ups.com

1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

August 12, 2008

I agree Dhanabalan

But that's only writeup.

You come to reality.

Predict!

Only prediting various charts can prove you first and you can prove others of the facts.

Atleast start predicting now onwards!

tkp --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: k.p.Readers Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 1:37 PM

Dear Gopal

Do you agree the following or not.

Professor Vaithialingam taught k.p.astrology for about 850 persons at salem District in Tamilnadu for the past 17 years. In the annual book of 23-1-2005 in page 16, he states as,

” There are two groups of k.p.astrologers in our association. One group says that 7th cusp sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised. The other group says that 7th cusp sub’s sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised.”

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 8/11/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp > wrote:

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp >Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comMonday, August 11, 2008, 12:56 PM

Dear Punit Pandeyji

Whether Guruji has written or anybody else has written,does this work or not is the point.

If Dhanabalanji could be kind enough to predict based on 2 different methods and prove the one he said is correct,then he can be crowned.

Would the honourable forum request him to provide the examples applying the one said to be written by KSK and the one he-Dhanabalan, rejects to be KSK's work.tkp ghopal--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 10:33 AM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.... tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

@gro ups.com

1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

August 12, 2008

Dear Gopal

I have collected particulars for about 50 persons from my relatives and friends whose history I know personally. I have erected the chart for all and analysing the results. Most of the cases it is not tallying with the actual.

One study I have done to verify the birth time.

About 50% of the cases, the first cuspal sublord is having directly connected with moon star. About 10% of the cases first cuspal sublord is connected with moon sign. Another 10% of the cases a slight change in birth time connects the first cuspal sublord to the moon sign or moon star. Hence according to me this method without RP comes correct about 70% of the cases.

I have not used the other way of connection between first cuspal sublord and moon. I am relectant to connect the first cuspal sublord with moon sublord.

Still I am studying the other possibilities of birth time rectification. If any method I found satisfactory I will inform to the members.

Please do not think that I am not analysing any charts.

I am not a commercial astrologer. In spite of that, I have studied many systems and spending most of the time in learning astrology.

Don't give false information to the group.

Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp wrote:

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkpRe: k.p.Readers Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:16 AM

I agree Dhanabalan

But that's only writeup.

You come to reality.

Predict!

Only prediting various charts can prove you first and you can prove others of the facts.

Atleast start predicting now onwards!

tkp --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comMonday, August 11, 2008, 1:37 PM

Dear Gopal

Do you agree the following or not.

Professor Vaithialingam taught k.p.astrology for about 850 persons at salem District in Tamilnadu for the past 17 years. In the annual book of 23-1-2005 in page 16, he states as,

” There are two groups of k.p.astrologers in our association. One group says that 7th cusp sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised. The other group says that 7th cusp sub’s sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised.”

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 8/11/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp > wrote:

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp >Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comMonday, August 11, 2008, 12:56 PM

Dear Punit Pandeyji

Whether Guruji has written or anybody else has written,does this work or not is the point.

If Dhanabalanji could be kind enough to predict based on 2 different methods and prove the one he said is correct,then he can be crowned.

Would the honourable forum request him to provide the examples applying the one said to be written by KSK and the one he-Dhanabalan, rejects to be KSK's work.tkp ghopal--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 10:33 AM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4..... tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

@gro ups.com

1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

August 12, 2008

Dear Shri Naiduji,

Vessels with more vacuum inside would create more noise. Otherwise who would notice them ? This is what is hapenning these days. I just referred thos articles, and yes I was surprised to note that the sub has been stretched too far. It is a great matter of concern that the senior stalwarts are not commenting and puting a stop to such practises, when they notice the same being done.

At the end of that article on sex detemination, the ditorial note had given the results of the accuracy of 4 methods. And what was the accuracy ? Not more than 50% in each of those mthods . I wonder why they waste time on making chart and wasting their time and energies. instead they must ask any person sitting outside a temple for a rupee coin, and oss the coin Heads and tails, and Lo and behold. The answer is there.

I noticed the same type of trouble taken by the author in that other article you mentioned .

I agree with you completely that in some days they would forget the original KP basics, and those who are found doing the original KP may be looked down upon with disgust by this new breed, who God knows can predict anything at all, with such out of space theories.

regards,

Bhaskaran.

, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan wrote:>> Dear sri Dhanabalan Ji,> > Pl see the articles "Child Sex Confirmation Theory" and "reinstatement of Judges in Pakistan" in KPE-zine of July 2008. You may be surprised to observe that sub sub's sub sub's sub's star lord is considered in confirming the child sex - Page 35 KPE-zine july 2008.Â sub lord's star lord's star lord is considered in the article Reinstatement of judges page 45 KPE-zine July, 2008.> > The stretching of stellar theory is going beyond any limits. Let us see to what it will be stretched.Â I am afraid ultimately where we land and we may leave and forget the original KP basics.> > But the Time is the deciding factor. Many theories are coming in KP. Â SURVIVAL IS THE FITTEST.> > Regards,> > Naidu KP> > > Â Â > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan wrote:> Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan Re: k.p.Readers> > Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 7:19 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naidu> Â > What you are telling is correct.> Â > The k.p.syatem in Readers Â was tested with about 800 astrologers at salem, it failed.> Â > Even the practicing astrologers are under confusion. One group is using sub's star theory and other group is using sub's sub's star theory and the third group is using only horary(according to this group both sub' star theory and sub's sub's star theory are not suitable for them).> Â > Dhanabalan> > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> Re: k.p.Readers> @gro ups.com> Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Members,> > In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.> WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.> > Naidu KP> > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> Re: k.p.Readers> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM> > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan ji,> Â > I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point. > Â > I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub'sÂ star)Â theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.Â > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > 2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey> Â > 1) I Â have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but Â someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem. > Â > 2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has Â conducted research on sub's star theory.> Â > 3) Readers might have been Â published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.> Â > 4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message NoÂ 18329Â showed the evidence in support of Â Mr.KSK Â as below,> Â > [1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.> Â The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge"Â at the end ofÂ "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition)Â is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004Â and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]> Â > The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message numberÂ 18361 as below,> Â > [4.. tw 853: Regarding someÂ questions, Â > Â 1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.> Â The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge"Â at the end ofÂ "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition)Â is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004Â and KP Reader VI pp 77-87> Â > Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]> Â Â > 5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact. Â > Â > 6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are Â continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.> Â > > > Dhanabalan> Â > Â > Message No.18329> Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III> Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM> "tw853" tw853 >> Add sender to Contacts > @gro ups.com> 1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than theÂ Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes. > Â 2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for theÂ Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions. > 3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.Â > 4. Regarding someÂ questions, Â > Â 1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.> Â The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge"Â at the end ofÂ "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition)Â is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004Â and KP Reader VI pp 77-87> Â "As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."> -KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)> Â 2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..> > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

August 13, 2008

Dear All,

1. In the KPE-Zine of July 2008, the "Child Sex Confirmation Theory" with a new idea based on Dr. Kar's TSP Theory was published for the knowledge of the readers. This is a kind of practical contribution other than making the speculative noises. The "Child Gender Prediction Analysis" article is to show that "any of the studied child gender prediction method is unreliable", without saying so bluntly.

2. The articles are welcome in making the practical contribution for further development of KP and any comment, criticism or additional knowledge are highly appreciated for improvement of the magazine.

Thanks and regards,

tw

, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri Naiduji,> > Vessels with more vacuum inside would create more noise. Otherwise who> would notice them ? This is what is hapenning these days. I just> referred thos articles, and yes I was surprised to note that the sub has> been stretched too far. It is a great matter of concern that the senior> stalwarts are not commenting and puting a stop to such practises, when> they notice the same being done.> > At the end of that article on sex detemination, the ditorial note had> given the results of the accuracy of 4 methods. And what was the> accuracy ? Not more than 50% in each of those mthods . I wonder why they> waste time on making chart and wasting their time and energies. instead> they must ask any person sitting outside a temple for a rupee coin, and> oss the coin Heads and tails, and Lo and behold. The answer is there.> > I noticed the same type of trouble taken by the author in that other> article you mentioned .> > I agree with you completely that in some days they would forget the> original KP basics, and those who are found doing the original KP may be> looked down upon with disgust by this new breed, who God knows can> predict anything at all, with such out of space theories.> > regards,> > Bhaskaran.> > > > > , "K. P. Naidu" konathalan@ wrote:> >> > Dear sri Dhanabalan Ji,> >> > Pl see the articles "Child Sex Confirmation Theory" and "reinstatement> of Judges in Pakistan" in KPE-zine of July 2008. You may be surprised to> observe that sub sub's sub sub's sub's star lord is considered in> confirming the child sex - Page 35 KPE-zine july 2008.Â sub lord's> star lord's star lord is considered in the article Reinstatement of> judges page 45 KPE-zine July, 2008.> >> > The stretching of stellar theory is going beyond any limits. Let us> see to what it will be stretched.Â I am afraid ultimately where we> land and we may leave and forget the original KP basics.> >> > But the Time is the deciding factor. Many theories are coming in KP.> Â SURVIVAL IS THE FITTEST.> >> > Regards,> >> > Naidu KP> >> >> > Â Â> >> > K. P. Naidu,> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > Nowroji Road,> > Maharanipeta,> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> >> > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan@ wrote:> > Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan@> > Re: k.p.Readers> > > > Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 7:19 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Naidu> > Â> > What you are telling is correct.> > Â> > The k.p.syatem in Readers Â was tested with about 800 astrologers> at salem, it failed.> > Â> > Even the practicing astrologers are under confusion. One group is> using sub's star theory and other group is using sub's sub's star theory> and the third group is using only horary(according to this group both> sub' star theory and sub's sub's star theory are not suitable for them).> > Â> > Dhanabalan> >> > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> >> > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > Re: k.p.Readers> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Members,> >> > In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written> whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile> exercise.> > WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is> written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by> the TIME.> >> > Naidu KP> >> >> > K. P. Naidu,> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > Nowroji Road,> > Maharanipeta,> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> >> > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> >> > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > Re: k.p.Readers> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Dhanabalan ji,> > Â> > I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written> by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the> same at one point.> > Â> > I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you> and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't> have any method to prove or disprove this (sub'sÂ star)Â theory.> My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.Â> >> > Thanks & Regards,> >> > Punit Pandey> >> >> >> > 2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Punit Pandey> > Â> > 1) I Â have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not> introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but Â someone on commercial> motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.> > Â> > 2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has> Â conducted research on sub's star theory.> > Â> > 3) Readers might have been Â published in Mr.KSK's time. On> commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star> theory in the Readers.> > Â> > 4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message NoÂ 18329Â showed the evidence> in support of Â Mr.KSK Â as below,> > Â> > [1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the> publication of the KP 2 volumes.> > Â The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge"Â at the end ofÂ > "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition)Â is Guruji KSK's> crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with> success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new> edition2004Â and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]> > Â> > The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his> evidence in the message numberÂ 18361 as below,> > Â> > [4.. tw 853: Regarding someÂ questions, Â> > Â 1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the> publication of the KP 2 volumes.> > Â The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge"Â at the end ofÂ > "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition)Â is Guruji KSK's> crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with> success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new> edition2004Â and KP Reader VI pp 77-87> > Â> > Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]> > Â Â> > 5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu> are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart> and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not> have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the> Readers is the fact. Â> > Â> > 6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are> like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition,> the mistakes are Â continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in> the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for> prediction mistakes.> > Â> >> >> > Dhanabalan> > Â> > Â> > Message No.18329> > Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III> > Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM> > "tw853" tw853 >> > Add sender to Contacts> > @gro ups.com> > 1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making> the KP Readers more useful than theÂ Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2> Volumes.> > Â 2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971> version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit> revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper> version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the> pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on> 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done> in the Steller Astrology, not for theÂ Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2> Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.> > 3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for> KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP> Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or> that sentence only.Â> > 4. Regarding someÂ questions, Â> > Â 1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the> publication of the KP 2 volumes.> > Â The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge"Â at the end ofÂ > "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition)Â is Guruji KSK's> crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with> success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new> edition2004Â and KP Reader VI pp 77-87> > Â "As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory,> the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his> writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI> reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more> than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT> GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These> have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji,> may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete> knowledbge in this matter."> > -KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)> > Â 2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the> Reader VI..> >> >> >> >> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on> http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/> >>

August 13, 2008

Dear shri Bhaskaran Ji,Thank you for your reply. Where are you all these days ? I am happy to see your msg.Regards,Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Tue, 12/8/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: k.p.Readers Date: Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 9:34 PM

Dear Shri Naiduji,

Vessels with more vacuum inside would create more noise. Otherwise who would notice them ? This is what is hapenning these days. I just referred thos articles, and yes I was surprised to note that the sub has been stretched too far. It is a great matter of concern that the senior stalwarts are not commenting and puting a stop to such practises, when they notice the same being done.

At the end of that article on sex detemination, the ditorial note had given the results of the accuracy of 4 methods. And what was the accuracy ? Not more than 50% in each of those mthods . I wonder why they waste time on making chart and wasting their time and energies. instead they must ask any person sitting outside a temple for a rupee coin, and oss the coin Heads and tails, and Lo and behold. The answer is there.

I noticed the same type of trouble taken by the author in that other article you mentioned .

I agree with you completely that in some days they would forget the original KP basics, and those who are found doing the original KP may be looked down upon with disgust by this new breed, who God knows can predict anything at all, with such out of space theories.

regards,

Bhaskaran.

@gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@. ..> wrote:>> Dear sri Dhanabalan Ji,> > Pl see the articles "Child Sex Confirmation Theory" and "reinstatement of Judges in Pakistan" in KPE-zine of July 2008. You may be surprised to observe that sub sub's sub sub's sub's star lord is considered in confirming the child sex - Page 35 KPE-zine july 2008.Ã‚ sub lord's star lord's star lord is considered in the article Reinstatement of judges page 45 KPE-zine July, 2008.> > The stretching of stellar theory is going beyond any limits. Let us see to what it will be stretched.Ã‚ I am afraid ultimately where we land and we may leave and forget the original KP basics.> > But the Time is the deciding factor. Many theories are coming in KP. Ã‚ SURVIVAL IS THE FITTEST.> > Regards,> > Naidu KP> > > Ã‚ Ã‚

> > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan@ ... wrote:> Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan@ ...> Re: k.p.Readers> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 7:19 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naidu> Ã‚ > What you are telling is correct.> Ã‚ > The k.p.syatem in Readers Ã‚ was tested with about 800 astrologers at salem, it failed.> Ã‚ > Even the practicing astrologers are under confusion. One group is using sub's star theory and other group is using sub's sub's star theory and the third group is using only horary(according to this group both sub' star

theory and sub's sub's star theory are not suitable for them).> Ã‚ > Dhanabalan> > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> Re: k.p.Readers> @gro ups.com> Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Members,> > In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.> WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.> > Naidu KP> > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM

530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> Re: k.p.Readers> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM> > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan ji,> Ã‚ > I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point. > Ã‚ > I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub'sÃ‚ star)Ã‚ theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.Ã‚ > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> >

> > 2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey> Ã‚ > 1) I Ã‚ have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but Ã‚ someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem. > Ã‚ > 2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has Ã‚ conducted research on sub's star theory.> Ã‚ > 3) Readers might have been Ã‚ published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.> Ã‚ > 4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message NoÃ‚ 18329Ã‚ showed the evidence in support of Ã‚ Mr.KSK Ã‚ as below,> Ã‚ > [1) it is to crow about his success only some time

after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.> Ã‚ The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge"Ã‚ at the end ofÃ‚ "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition)Ã‚ is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004Ã‚ and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]> Ã‚ > The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message numberÃ‚ 18361 as below,> Ã‚ > [4.. tw 853: Regarding someÃ‚ questions, Ã‚ > Ã‚ 1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.> Ã‚ The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge"Ã‚ at the end ofÃ‚ "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition)Ã‚ is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously

appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004Ã‚ and KP Reader VI pp 77-87> Ã‚ > Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]> Ã‚ Ã‚ > 5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact. Ã‚ > Ã‚ > 6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are Ã‚ continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.> Ã‚ > > > Dhanabalan> Ã‚ > Ã‚ > Message No.18329>

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III> Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM> "tw853" tw853 >> Add sender to Contacts > @gro ups.com> 1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than theÃ‚ Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes. > Ã‚ 2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for theÃ‚ Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions. > 3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful

and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.Ã‚ > 4. Regarding someÃ‚ questions, Ã‚ > Ã‚ 1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.> Ã‚ The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge"Ã‚ at the end ofÃ‚ "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition)Ã‚ is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004Ã‚ and KP Reader VI pp 77-87> Ã‚ "As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on

for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."> -KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)> Ã‚ 2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..> > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/>

Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

August 13, 2008

Dear Dhanabalan Ji,There are many theories coming up in KP. It is a natural phenomena. No one can stop it. Ultimately SURVIVAL IS THE FITTEST holds good.Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: k.p.Readers Date: Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 8:45 PM

Dear Naidu

Professor Vaithialingam taught k.p.astrology for about 850 persons at salem District in Tamilnadu for the past 17 years. In the annual book of 23-1-2005 in page 16, he states as,

â€ There are two groups of k.p.astrologers in our association. One group says that 7th cusp subâ€™s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised. The other group says that 7th cusp subâ€™s subâ€™s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised.â€

Now you may understand what I mean.

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

@gro ups.com

1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group.

August 14, 2008

Dear Dhanabalan,

You seem to be harping on the same points repeatedly...like an old cracked/broken and rejoined gramaphone record...!

K.P. has moved forward,very rapidly,compared to Guruji's times,especially with the availability of the computer...many new SWs have energed too...but to keep insisting in the 21st Century that my bicycle is more dependable than any car.because if anything goes wrong I can still carry it home...is truly a vexatious argument,being repeatedly put forward by you...ALL ican say is...use whichever system you please and whichever ayanamsa you please... but do not criticise anybody who differs from your thinking...each one to himself...let each astrologer us the Ayanamsa he chooses...and gets good and accurate results...! !

L.Y.Rao.

K. P. Naidu <konathalan Sent: Thursday, 14 August, 2008 1:47:45 AMRe: k.p.Readers

Dear Dhanabalan Ji,There are many theories coming up in KP. It is a natural phenomena. No one can stop it. Ultimately SURVIVAL IS THE FITTEST holds good.Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 8:45 PM

Dear Naidu

Professor Vaithialingam taught k.p.astrology for about 850 persons at salem District in Tamilnadu for the past 17 years. In the annual book of 23-1-2005 in page 16, he states as,

â€ There are two groups of k.p.astrologers in our association. One group says that 7th cusp subâ€™s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised. The other group says that 7th cusp subâ€™s subâ€™s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised.â€

Now you may understand what I mean.

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

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August 14, 2008

Dear Naidu

Mr.KSK wants to simplify the method of prediction. But now it seems that the k.p. is more complicated than the vedic astrology.

Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 8/13/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalanRe: k.p.Readers Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:17 PM

Dear Dhanabalan Ji,There are many theories coming up in KP. It is a natural phenomena. No one can stop it. Ultimately SURVIVAL IS THE FITTEST holds good.Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 8:45 PM

Dear Naidu

Professor Vaithialingam taught k.p.astrology for about 850 persons at salem District in Tamilnadu for the past 17 years. In the annual book of 23-1-2005 in page 16, he states as,

” There are two groups of k.p.astrologers in our association. One group says that 7th cusp sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised. The other group says that 7th cusp sub’s sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised.”

Now you may understand what I mean.

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

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1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

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August 16, 2008

I think Dhanabalan rather than contributing to the forum is engaging in useless discussions and wasting time of the forum . There has been no constructive or educative discussion from him. He is only interested in asking a person why you bought a Mercedez Benz and not a Corolla. He should understand that Mercedez Benz is always better than a Corolla. If he does not understand this then he should try a Drive Test rather than talking about them. Hope he gets the message this time around. -R Kalia----- Original

Message ----Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:02:12 AMRe: k.p.Readers

Dear Dhanabalan,

You seem to be harping on the same points repeatedly...like an old cracked/broken and rejoined gramaphone record...!

K.P. has moved forward,very rapidly,compared to Guruji's times,especially with the availability of the computer...many new SWs have energed too...but to keep insisting in the 21st Century that my bicycle is more dependable than any car.because if anything goes wrong I can still carry it home...is truly a vexatious argument,being repeatedly put forward by you...ALL ican say is...use whichever system you please and whichever ayanamsa you please... but do not criticise anybody who differs from your thinking...each one to himself...let each astrologer us the Ayanamsa he chooses...and gets good and accurate results...! !

L.Y.Rao.

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comThursday, 14 August, 2008 1:47:45 AMRe: k.p.Readers

Dear Dhanabalan Ji,There are many theories coming up in KP. It is a natural phenomena. No one can stop it. Ultimately SURVIVAL IS THE FITTEST holds good.Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 8:45 PM

Dear Naidu

Professor Vaithialingam taught k.p.astrology for about 850 persons at salem District in Tamilnadu for the past 17 years. In the annual book of 23-1-2005 in page 16, he states as,

” There are two groups of k.p.astrologers in our association. One group says that 7th cusp sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised. The other group says that 7th cusp sub’s sub’s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised.”

Now you may understand what I mean.

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

@gro ups.com

1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group.

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August 18, 2008

Dear Members,

At last or atleast now all are awake.

As said by Shri Yogesh Rao there has been more refinement in the theory that are yeilding good results but the core rule of Guruji KSK should not be missed at any point and it was not missed until today by KP astrologers.

Mr. Dhanabalan does not have practical experience. I came to know from a very good and great astrologer.

So members please ignore his views and comments which has no practical value.

With Regards,

KP follower.--- On Sat, 16/8/08, Raman Kalia <rkalia1 wrote:

Raman Kalia <rkalia1Re: k.p.Readers Date: Saturday, 16 August, 2008, 7:11 PM

I think Dhanabalan rather than contributing to the forum is engaging in useless discussions and wasting time of the forum . There has been no constructive or educative discussion from him. He is only interested in asking a person why you bought a Mercedez Benz and not a Corolla. He should understand that Mercedez Benz is always better than a Corolla. If he does not understand this then he should try a Drive Test rather than talking about them. Hope he gets the message this time around.

-R Kalia

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comThursday, August 14, 2008 4:02:12 AMRe: k.p.Readers

Dear Dhanabalan,

You seem to be harping on the same points repeatedly...like an old cracked/broken and rejoined gramaphone record...!

K.P. has moved forward,very rapidly,compared to Guruji's times,especially with the availability of the computer...many new SWs have energed too...but to keep insisting in the 21st Century that my bicycle is more dependable than any car.because if anything goes wrong I can still carry it home...is truly a vexatious argument,being repeatedly put forward by you...ALL ican say is...use whichever system you please and whichever ayanamsa you please... but do not criticise anybody who differs from your thinking...each one to himself...let each astrologer us the Ayanamsa he chooses...and gets good and accurate results...! !

L.Y.Rao.

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comThursday, 14 August, 2008 1:47:45 AMRe: k.p.Readers

Dear Dhanabalan Ji,There are many theories coming up in KP. It is a natural phenomena. No one can stop it. Ultimately SURVIVAL IS THE FITTEST holds good.Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 8:45 PM

Dear Naidu

Professor Vaithialingam taught k.p.astrology for about 850 persons at salem District in Tamilnadu for the past 17 years. In the annual book of 23-1-2005 in page 16, he states as,

â€ There are two groups of k.p.astrologers in our association. One group says that 7th cusp subâ€™s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised. The other group says that 7th cusp subâ€™s subâ€™s star if signify 2,7,11 then marriage is promised.â€

Now you may understand what I mean.

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:39 PM

Dear Members,In the absence of the Guruji, the discussion on who has written whether Guruji or someone else will not serve the purpose and is futile exercise.WHAT IS WRITTEN is more important than WHO HAS WRITTEN.. What is written whether giving results or not is the issue. It will be tested by the TIME.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: k.p.Readers@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008, 4:03 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I also share the doubt that not everything in the readers is written by Sri KSK. Sri Raichur ji, while comparing 1971 and 2004, doubted the same at one point.

I believe that this point has been communicated quite strongly by you and I don't see any reason to repeat it. In absence of KSK, we don't have any method to prove or disprove this (sub's star) theory. My suggestion is to stick to whatever work for you.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

2008/8/10 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

Dear Punit Pandey

1) I have raised a doubt that the sub's star theory was not introduced by Mr.KSK in all k.p. Readers but someone on commercial motive introduced to avoid copy right problem.

2) There is no sufficient evidence available on record that Mr.KSK has conducted research on sub's star theory.

3) Readers might have been published in Mr.KSK's time. On commercial motive, Mr.KSK also might have introduced the sub's star theory in the Readers.

4) Mr.Tin Win, in the message No 18329 showed the evidence in support of Mr.KSK as below,

[1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87]

The pages he referred are not written by Mr.KSK. I again objected his evidence in the message number 18361 as below,

[4.. tw 853: Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

Dhanabalan: The article was not written by Mr.KSK.]

5) In the subsequent message, I have pointed out that the Rahu/Ketu are misplaced about 180 degrees and gave prediction with the wrong chart and claimed that the author gave correct prediction. Mr.KSK would not have done this mistake. Someone in the name of Mr.KSK has written the Readers is the fact.

6) Further, there are many mistakes in all the Readers. Readers are like Bible and there should not be any mistakes. Even after 8th edition, the mistakes are continuing. Printing mistakes can be justified in the first edition but not in the subsequent editions.. No excuse for prediction mistakes.

Dhanabalan

Message No.18329

Re: confusion 3 K.P.Reader III

Sunday, August 3, 2008 4:32 AM

"tw853" <tw853 >

Add sender to Contacts

@gro ups.com

1. Of course, there are modification, deletion and addition etc making the KP Readers more useful than the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes.

2. Regarding the KP Reader III, only the Old Edition of 1971 version is published by Guruji KSK and the New Edition is a little bit revised by the next publisher, and so only the Old Edition is the proper version to compare. There are "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED BY THE AUTHOR", the pictures of Guru ji KSK receiving the Sothida Mannan and a gold medal on 29-6-70 for the outstanding service (giving lectures to the public) done in the Steller Astrology, not for the Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes as a thesis or correct predictions.

3. Only the issues or rules are meaningful, helpful and applicable for KP practitioners with the back of research other than who wrote the KP Readers. It also needs to have the overall view than sticking to this or that sentence only.

4. Regarding some questions,

1) it is to crow about his success only some time after the publication of the KP 2 volumes.

The "Cusps and Subs- How to Judge" at the end of "Theoretical Part", (pp 137-150 of New edition) is Guruji KSK's crowing part, "This discovery (of the sub-lord) has crowned me with success." simultaneously appearing in the KP Reader V pp 137-150 in new edition2004 and KP Reader VI pp 77-87

"As a matter of fact when our GREATR GURUJI invented his Theory, the great Mr.B.V.Raman himself ridiculed our GREAT GURUJI through his writings in his ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZENE which our GREATR GURUJI reciprocated with calmness and expalained and this war went on for more than 15 years and finally Mr.B.V.Raman, had to concede that our GREAT GURUJI has really invented a new System and wished him success. These have all now become history and only people ilke me and Mr.Raichurji, may some others who were watching this at that time, have complete knowledbge in this matter."

-KP Kuppu Ganapathi (05-12-2005)

2) the evolution of horary no from 108 to 249 can be read in the Reader VI..

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