Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible. Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Dear Dhanbalan rMY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choiceraichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Geographic or Geocentric"kpsystem groups" Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible. Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan, This is the ultimate proof that you are not aware of what you are writing about,OR what you are talking about....Have you checked Mr.A.R.Raichurs SW ? It has incorporated both the Geocentric lattitude..and the KPNA... ! L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalankpsystem groups Saturday, 9 August, 2008 7:02:05 PM Geographic or Geocentric Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible. Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan, 1. Regarding Geographic or Geocentric, " A Note on Geocentric Latitude Correction " and the Abstracts from " KP for Beginners- Part 3 " are uploaded in the file section. 2. Astrodienst is the provider and the user of Swiss ephemeris and the most well known, relied, free Western SW, which also provides the Hindu charts using Lahiri ayanamsa that may be very slightly different from the standard Lahiri. Pl visit the link below:- http://www.astro.com/ 3. The common understanding is that if nothing is mentioned, Geographic Latitude is used (Geocentric in the Western charts mean the Geocentric positions of the planets but Geographic Latitude is used) and it is usually mentioned, if Geocentric correction is used. Regards, tw , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > Dear Tin Win > > You have given the following data. > > Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 > New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika > > Ascendent > Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) > > Regarding Mars ® position, > Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… > Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. > > Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. > > My Doubts: > a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible. Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself. Why the option is given to the user. > > b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. > > Dhanabalan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Dear Raichur Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct. Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Geographic or Geocentric Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM Dear Dhanbalan rMY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Geographic or Geocentric"kpsystem groups" <@gro ups.com>Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible.. Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Dear Yogesh Rao Mr.Raichur has already replied. In his software there is no option to choose geocentric or geographic. No you are giving one more information that his software has only KPNA(2003). But I do not think so. In the software I am using, there a choice for geocentric/geographic, choice for Lahari/KP old/KPNA(2003)/user defined, Rahu True/Mean, many more options. You understood my question wrongly. Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1Re: Geographic or Geocentric"Mr.Dhanabalan R" Cc: "Dhanabalan r" <dhanabalanrSaturday, August 9, 2008, 2:36 PM Dear Dhanabalan, This is the ultimate proof that you are not aware of what you are writing about,OR what you are talking about....Have you checked Mr.A.R.Raichurs SW ? It has incorporated both the Geocentric lattitude..and the KPNA.... ! L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >kpsystem groups <@gro ups.com>Saturday, 9 August, 2008 7:02:05 PM Geographic or Geocentric Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible.. Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Swiss ephemeris is provided and used by the Astrodienst. The commercial package of Swiss ephemeris is purchased and used by the KPAstro, Jagannatha Hora, Astro-Kundli, Jyotishya Deepika, Astracadabra and Solar Fire KPAstro etc. , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > Dear Raichur > > Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct. > > Dhanabalan > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar > Re: Geographic or Geocentric > > Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM > > > > Dear Dhanbalan r > MY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice > > > raichur anant mumbai > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > > Geographic or Geocentric > " kpsystem groups " <@gro ups.com> > Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM > > > Dear Tin Win > > You have given the following data. > > Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 > New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika > > Ascendent > Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) > > Regarding Mars ® position, > Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… > Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. > > Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. > > My Doubts: > a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible. Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself. Why the option is given to the user. > > b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. > > Dhanabalan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 I have checked Mr.Raichur's software. There are ayanamsa option to choose kp straightline, Lahari, user defined, sayana and other ayanamsa option. KPNA(2003) is default ayanamsa in Mr.Raichur's software. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Geographic or Geocentric Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:06 AM Dear Yogesh Rao Mr.Raichur has already replied. In his software there is no option to choose geocentric or geographic. No you are giving one more information that his software has only KPNA(2003). But I do not think so. In the software I am using, there a choice for geocentric/geograph ic, choice for Lahari/KP old/KPNA(2003) /user defined, Rahu True/Mean, many more options. You understood my question wrongly. Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Geographic or Geocentric"Mr.Dhanabalan R" <@gro ups.com>Cc: "Dhanabalan r" <dhanabalanr@ >Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:36 PM Dear Dhanabalan, This is the ultimate proof that you are not aware of what you are writing about,OR what you are talking about....Have you checked Mr.A.R.Raichurs SW ? It has incorporated both the Geocentric lattitude..and the KPNA..... ! L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >kpsystem groups <@gro ups.com>Saturday, 9 August, 2008 7:02:05 PM Geographic or Geocentric Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible... Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself.. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Dear Raichur There is a difference in planetary positions between these two ephemeris. If Astrodienst is correct, why not use by all software developers. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: Geographic or Geocentric Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:46 AM Swiss ephemeris is provided and used by the Astrodienst. The commercial package of Swiss ephemeris is purchased and used by the KPAstro, Jagannatha Hora, Astro-Kundli, Jyotishya Deepika, Astracadabra and Solar Fire KPAstro etc.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Raichur> > Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct.> > Dhanabalan> > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@. ..> wrote:> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@. ..>> Re: Geographic or Geocentric> @gro ups.com> Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanbalan r> MY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice> > > raichur anant mumbai> > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >> Geographic or Geocentric> "kpsystem groups" <@ gro ups.com>> Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win> > You have given the following data.> > Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5> New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika > > Ascendent > Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) > > Regarding Mars ® position,> Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… > Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. > > Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris.> > My Doubts:> a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible. Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself. Why the option is given to the user.> > b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris.> > Dhanabalan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 1. How to say, no 2 ephemeris but only one Swiss ephemeris. There is a slight difference in planetary positions between the SWs using the same Swiss ephemeris perhaps due to some technility. The Astrodienst is the SW which ues his own Swiss ephemeris and sells the Swiss ephemeris to the other SW developers. As mentioned before, the KPAstro 3.0 gives the same planetary and cuspal positions of the Astrdienst SW with the rounding difference of 1-2 seconds. 2. There is no " coorect " but only " accurate " SW. That is why Shri Richur says to use the KPAstro, if one needs the better accuracy. 3. Although the Swiss Ephemeris is accurate, all software developers are not using it because of cost to pay in foreign currency. The same thing with ACS World Atlas which some developers don't want to spend another us$200. Astrodienst, KPAstro 3.0, http://www.system.com, JHora etc with the built-in ACS World Atlas automatically enter longitude, latitude, time zone, and daylight savings of over 2,60,000 cities. , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > Dear Raichur > > There is a difference in planetary positions between these two ephemeris. > If Astrodienst is correct, why not use by all software developers. > > Dhanabalan > > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > tw853 <tw853 > Re: Geographic or Geocentric > > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:46 AM Swiss ephemeris is provided and used by the Astrodienst. The > commercial package of Swiss ephemeris is purchased and used by the > KPAstro, Jagannatha Hora, Astro-Kundli, Jyotishya Deepika, > Astracadabra and Solar Fire KPAstro etc. > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Raichur > > > > Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct. > > > > Dhanabalan > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> > > Re: Geographic or Geocentric > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanbalan r > > MY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The > goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice > > > > > > raichur anant mumbai > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: > > > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > > > Geographic or Geocentric > > " kpsystem groups " <@ gro ups.com> > > Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win > > > > You have given the following data. > > > > Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 > > New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by > Jyotishya Deepika > > > > Ascendent > > Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' > 7''), > > Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > > Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) > > > > Regarding Mars ® position, > > Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… > > Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > > > 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > > > Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars > position in the 8th house. > > > > Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss > ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp > positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss > ephemeris. > > > > My Doubts: > > a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a > provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I > choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 > minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible. > Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic > latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in > the program itself. Why the option is given to the user. > > > > b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or > the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. > > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Dear Mr DhanbalanThe SWISS eph is consided very accurate and is used by NASAShree K.Rangarajan uses it, after making a SW to convert the figures to suit his SW.raichur anant mumbai--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Geographic or Geocentric Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:41 PM Dear Raichur Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct. Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Geographic or Geocentric@gro ups.comSaturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM Dear Dhanbalan rMY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Geographic or Geocentric"kpsystem groups" <@gro ups.com>Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible.. Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Dear Raichur I am not clear from your answer. I accept that the swiss ephemeris is correct. But it seems there are two swiss ephemeris, one is used in Jagannatha Hora and the another used in Astrodienst. Among these two which is more acurate. You mean the Astrodienst? Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 8/11/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Geographic or Geocentric Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 7:34 AM Dear Mr DhanbalanThe SWISS eph is consided very accurate and is used by NASAShree K.Rangarajan uses it, after making a SW to convert the figures to suit his SW. raichur anant mumbai--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Geographic or Geocentric@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:41 PM Dear Raichur Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct. Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Geographic or Geocentric@gro ups.comSaturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM Dear Dhanbalan rMY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Geographic or Geocentric"kpsystem groups" <@gro ups.com>Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible... Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself.. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Hello Dhanabalan is using Astrowonder which is also made using Swiss ephimeris. Geographic ,Tropocentric and Geocentric are the options given. You can go into geographic and click geocentric,you get the geocentric values. Again there are different school of thought regarding this issue also ,hence the option is given,whereas in Raichur s/w it is directly incorporated. Options are given for you to think and your decision. Regards tkp ghopal--- On Mon, 8/11/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Geographic or Geocentric Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 7:34 AM Dear Mr DhanbalanThe SWISS eph is consided very accurate and is used by NASAShree K.Rangarajan uses it, after making a SW to convert the figures to suit his SW. raichur anant mumbai--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Geographic or Geocentric@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:41 PM Dear Raichur Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct. Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Geographic or Geocentric@gro ups.comSaturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM Dear Dhanbalan rMY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Geographic or Geocentric"kpsystem groups" <@gro ups.com>Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible... Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself.. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Dear Raichur I have checked the software print outs of Man Machine System in the kp-ezine magazine. The ephemeris and house divisions are exactly the same for natal and horary with KPNA(2003) ayanamsa with my software. No difference. Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 8/11/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Geographic or Geocentric Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 7:34 AM Dear Mr DhanbalanThe SWISS eph is consided very accurate and is used by NASAShree K.Rangarajan uses it, after making a SW to convert the figures to suit his SW. raichur anant mumbai--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Geographic or Geocentric@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:41 PM Dear Raichur Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct. Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Geographic or Geocentric@gro ups.comSaturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM Dear Dhanbalan rMY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Geographic or Geocentric"kpsystem groups" <@gro ups.com>Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible... Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself.. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Only one, the same Swiss ephemeris is used by the Jagannatha Hora and the Astrodienst. The Swiss ephemeris user, the KPAstro 3.0 gives the same planetary and cuspal positions of Astrodienst by applying not only the Swiss ephemeris package but also the technical support program related with this package. The KPAstro 3.0 can be said as a duplicate of Astrdienst in regard of accuracy. Another Swiss ephemeris user, the Jagannatha Hora gives the very slightly different planetary and cuspal positions of Astrodienst perhaps because of not applying the technical support program like KPAstro 3.0. , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:>> Dear Raichur> > I am not clear from your answer. > > I accept that the swiss ephemeris is correct. But it seems there are two swiss ephemeris, one is used in Jagannatha Hora and the another used in Astrodienst. Among these two which is more acurate. You mean the Astrodienst?> > Dhanabalan> > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Raichur-a-r raichurar wrote:> > Raichur-a-r raichurar Re: Geographic or Geocentric> > Monday, August 11, 2008, 7:34 AM> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Dhanbalan> The SWISS eph is consided very accurate and is used by NASA> Shree K.Rangarajan uses it, after making a SW to convert the figures to suit his SW.> > > raichur anant mumbai> > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >> Re: Geographic or Geocentric> @gro ups.com> Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:41 PM> > > > > > > > > > Dear Raichur> > Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct.> > Dhanabalan> > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote:> > Raichur-a-r raichurar >> Re: Geographic or Geocentric> @gro ups.com> Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanbalan r> MY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice> > > raichur anant mumbai> > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >> Geographic or Geocentric> "kpsystem groups" @gro ups.com>> Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win> > You have given the following data.> > Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5> New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika > > Ascendent > Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) > > Regarding Mars ® position,> Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… > Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. > > Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris.> > My Doubts:> a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible.. Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself. Why the option is given to the user.> > b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris.> > Dhanabalan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Dear DhanabalanI do not know, because, I do not use either of themraichur anant mumbai--- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Geographic or Geocentric Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 1:36 PM Dear Raichur I am not clear from your answer. I accept that the swiss ephemeris is correct. But it seems there are two swiss ephemeris, one is used in Jagannatha Hora and the another used in Astrodienst. Among these two which is more acurate. You mean the Astrodienst? Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 8/11/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Geographic or Geocentric@gro ups.comMonday, August 11, 2008, 7:34 AM Dear Mr DhanbalanThe SWISS eph is consided very accurate and is used by NASAShree K.Rangarajan uses it, after making a SW to convert the figures to suit his SW. raichur anant mumbai--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Geographic or Geocentric@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 12:41 PM Dear Raichur Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct. Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Geographic or Geocentric@gro ups.comSaturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM Dear Dhanbalan rMY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Geographic or Geocentric"kpsystem groups" <@gro ups.com>Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM Dear Tin Win You have given the following data. Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by Jyotishya Deepika Ascendent Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) Regarding Mars ® position, Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7' 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7' Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars position in the 8th house. Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. My Doubts: a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible.. . Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in the program itself.. Why the option is given to the user. b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Dear tw853 Finally could you please advise which lattitude to use Geographic or Geocentric if the choice is available. a.k.sehgal--- On Sun, 10/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: Geographic or Geocentric Date: Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 7:40 PM 1. How to say, no 2 ephemeris but only one Swiss ephemeris. There is a slight difference in planetary positions between the SWs using the same Swiss ephemeris perhaps due to some technility. The Astrodienst is the SW which ues his own Swiss ephemeris and sells the Swiss ephemeris to the other SW developers. As mentioned before, the KPAstro 3.0 gives the same planetary and cuspal positions of the Astrdienst SW with the rounding difference of 1-2 seconds.2. There is no "coorect" but only "accurate" SW. That is why Shri Richur says to use the KPAstro, if one needs the better accuracy. 3. Although the Swiss Ephemeris is accurate, all software developers are not using it because of cost to pay in foreign currency. The same thing with ACS World Atlas which some developers don't want to spend another us$200. Astrodienst, KPAstro 3.0, http://www.s ystem.com, JHora etc with the built-in ACS World Atlas automatically enter longitude, latitude, time zone, and daylight savings of over 2,60,000 cities.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Raichur> > There is a difference in planetary positions between these two ephemeris.> If Astrodienst is correct, why not use by all software developers.> > Dhanabalan> > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > tw853 <tw853> Re: Geographic or Geocentric> @gro ups.com> Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:46 AM> > > > > > > Swiss ephemeris is provided and used by the Astrodienst. The > commercial package of Swiss ephemeris is purchased and used by the > KPAstro, Jagannatha Hora, Astro-Kundli, Jyotishya Deepika, > Astracadabra and Solar Fire KPAstro etc.> > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > wrote:> >> > Dear Raichur> > > > Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct.> > > > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote:> > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..>> > Re: Geographic or Geocentric> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanbalan r> > MY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The > goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice> > > > > > raichur anant mumbai> > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >> > Geographic or Geocentric> > "kpsystem groups" <@ gro ups.com>> > Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win> > > > You have given the following data.> > > > Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5> > New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by > Jyotishya Deepika > > > > Ascendent > > Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' > 7''), > > Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > > Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA 23° 31'… ) > > > > Regarding Mars ® position,> > Vi 20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > Vi 20° 20' 56'' by JHora using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > Vi 20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… > > Vi 20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > > > 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > 8th cusp is Vi 20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > > > Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars > position in the 8th house. > > > > Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss > ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp > positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss > ephemeris.> > > > My Doubts:> > a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a > provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I > choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 > minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible. > Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic > latitude.. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in > the program itself. Why the option is given to the user.> > > > b) Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or > the Astrodienst, the provider and user of the Swiss ephemeris.> > > > Dhanabalan > > > >> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 It's clear to use Geographic as most of us are doing. Regards, tw , ashok sehgal <aks071945 wrote: > > Dear tw853 > Finally could you please advise which lattitude to use Geographic or Geocentric if the choice is available. > a.k.sehgal > > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > tw853 <tw853 > Re: Geographic or Geocentric > > Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 7:40 PM 1. How to say, no 2 ephemeris but only one Swiss ephemeris. There is > a slight difference in planetary positions between the SWs using the > same Swiss ephemeris perhaps due to some technility. The Astrodienst > is the SW which ues his own Swiss ephemeris and sells the Swiss > ephemeris to the other SW developers. As mentioned before, the > KPAstro 3.0 gives the same planetary and cuspal positions of the > Astrdienst SW with the rounding difference of 1-2 seconds. > > 2. There is no " coorect " but only " accurate " SW. That is why Shri > Richur says to use the KPAstro, if one needs the better accuracy. > > 3. Although the Swiss Ephemeris is accurate, all software developers > are not using it because of cost to pay in foreign currency. The > same thing with ACS World Atlas which some developers don't want to > spend another us$200. Astrodienst, KPAstro 3.0, > http://www.s ystem.com, JHora etc with the built-in ACS World > Atlas automatically enter longitude, latitude, time zone, and > daylight savings of over 2,60,000 cities. > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Raichur > >  > > There is a difference in planetary positions between these two > ephemeris. > > If Astrodienst is correct, why not use by all software developers. > >  > > Dhanabalan > > > > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > Re: Geographic or Geocentric > > @gro ups.com > > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swiss ephemeris is provided and used by the Astrodienst. The > > commercial package of Swiss ephemeris is purchased and used by the > > KPAstro, Jagannatha Hora, Astro-Kundli, Jyotishya Deepika, > > Astracadabra and Solar Fire KPAstro etc. > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R > <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raichur > > >  > > > Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct. > > >  > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> > > > Re: Geographic or Geocentric > > > @gro ups.com > > > Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanbalan r > > > MY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The > > goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice > > > > > > > > > raichur anant mumbai > > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > > > > Geographic or Geocentric > > > " kpsystem groups " <@ gro ups.com> > > > Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win > > >  > > > You have given the following data. > > >  > > > Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5 > > >  New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by > > Jyotishya Deepika > > >  > > >  Ascendent > > > Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' > > 7''), > > > Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by  NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > > > Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA  23° 31'… ) > > >  > > > Regarding Mars ® position, > > >  Vi  20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using   NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > > Vi  20° 20' 56'' by JHora using       NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > > Vi  20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… > > > Vi  20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using  NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > >  > > > 8th cusp is Vi  20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using  NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > > 8th cusp is Vi  20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using  NKPA 23° 31' 7' > > >  > > >  Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars > > position in the 8th house. > > >  > > >  Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss > > ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp > > positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of  the Swiss > > ephemeris. > > >  > > > My Doubts: > > > a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a > > provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I > > choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 > > minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible. > > Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic > > latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in > > the program itself. Why the option is given to the user. > > >  > > > b)  Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or > > the Astrodienst, the provider and user of  the Swiss ephemeris. > > >  > > > Dhanabalan > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Dear Tin Win With reference to pages 306 of Astrosecret part II, Late N.Krishnamurthy an expert in k.p. says that one should prepare the birth chart strictly to the Geocentic latitudes only. Another expert in k.p. Mr.MGG Nayar says that the house cusps should be computed for the Geocentric latitude of the place. In page 316, Mr.K.Balachandran adviced the k.p. astrologers to draw up the horoscope chart of their clients using the Geocentric latitude of the birth place to ensure much more accuracy and precision. In the book, “KP’s Astrology & Prime ministers” , Mrs.Kousalya sattainathan in page 3 says that she is not using the geocentric latitude since Mr.KSK was not using geocentric latitude in the examples.. Considering the importance of geocentic latitude, Mr.Raichur has inbuilt in his software. Nowadays all the calculations are being done with the computer. Being so, why you are not recommending the Geocentric latitude. Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 8/15/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: Geographic or Geocentric Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 2:05 AM It's clear to use Geographic as most of us are doing.Regards,tw@gro ups.com, ashok sehgal <aks071945@. ..> wrote:>> Dear tw853> Finally could you please advise which lattitude to use Geographic or Geocentric if the choice is available.> a.k.sehgal> > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > tw853 <tw853> Re: Geographic or Geocentric> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 7:40 PM> > > > > > > 1. How to say, no 2 ephemeris but only one Swiss ephemeris. There is > a slight difference in planetary positions between the SWs using the > same Swiss ephemeris perhaps due to some technility. The Astrodienst > is the SW which ues his own Swiss ephemeris and sells the Swiss > ephemeris to the other SW developers. As mentioned before, the > KPAstro 3.0 gives the same planetary and cuspal positions of the > Astrdienst SW with the rounding difference of 1-2 seconds.> > 2. There is no "coorect" but only "accurate" SW. That is why Shri > Richur says to use the KPAstro, if one needs the better accuracy. > > 3. Although the Swiss Ephemeris is accurate, all software developers > are not using it because of cost to pay in foreign currency. The > same thing with ACS World Atlas which some developers don't want to > spend another us$200. Astrodienst, KPAstro 3.0, > http://www.s ystem.com, JHora etc with the built-in ACS World > Atlas automatically enter longitude, latitude, time zone, and > daylight savings of over 2,60,000 cities.> > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ....> > wrote:> >> > Dear Raichur> >  > > There is a difference in planetary positions between these two > ephemeris.> > If Astrodienst is correct, why not use by all software developers.> >  > > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > Re: Geographic or Geocentric> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:46 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swiss ephemeris is provided and used by the Astrodienst. The > > commercial package of Swiss ephemeris is purchased and used by the > > KPAstro, Jagannatha Hora, Astro-Kundli, Jyotishya Deepika, > > Astracadabra and Solar Fire KPAstro etc.> > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R > <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Raichur> > >  > > > Please answer my question (b) also. Which ephemeris is correct.> > >  > > > Dhanabalan> > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..>> > > Re: Geographic or Geocentric> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:23 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanbalan r> > > MY s.w. uses only geocentric and there is no option. The > > goegraphic lat is coverted to geo-cetric in the sw only. No choice> > > > > > > > > raichur anant mumbai> > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > > > > > Dhanabalan R <r..dhanabalan@ >> > > Geographic or Geocentric> > > "kpsystem groups" <@ gro ups.com>> > > Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win> > >  > > > You have given the following data.> > >  > > > Female, 22-3-1982, 5-20 AM IST, 15N27, 75E5> > >  New KPA 23° 31' 7'' by Raichur's & KPAstro 3.0, and 23° 31'… by > > Jyotishya Deepika > > >  > > >  Ascendent > > > Aq 14° 8' 30 '' (Raichur's, Geocentric adjusted, NKPA 23° 31' > > 7''), > > > Aq 14° 7' 8 '' (KPAstro/JHora by  NKPA 23° 31' 7''), > > > Aq 14° 7' 5 '' ( J Deepika by NKPA  23° 31'… ) > > >  > > > Regarding Mars ® position,> > >  Vi  20° 21' 0'' by KPAstro using   NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > > Vi  20° 20' 56'' by JHora using       NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > > Vi  20° 20' 57'' by J Deepika using NKPA 23° 31'… > > > Vi  20° 20' 51'' by Raichur's using  NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > >  > > > 8th cusp is Vi  20° 20' 37'' by KPAstro using  NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > > 8th cusp is Vi  20° 20' 15'' by Raichur's using  NKPA 23° 31' 7'> > >  > > >  Not only Astro-Kundli but also the above 4 SWs are giving Mars > > position in the 8th house. > > >  > > >  Although KPAstro, JHora and J Deepika are using the Swiss > > ephemeris, only the KPAstro gives the same planetary and cusp > > positions of the Astrodienst, the provider and user of  the Swiss > > ephemeris.> > >  > > > My Doubts:> > > a) What is Geocentric adjusted. In my computer there is a > > provision to choose for either geographic or geocentric. When I > > choose the geocentric option, the latitude is reduced about 5 > > minutes. The changes in the Cuspal positions are negligible. > > Generally most of the astrologers are choosing the geographic > > latitude. If geocentric alone is correct, why it is not inbuilt in > > the program itself. Why the option is given to the user.> > >  > > > b)  Which is correct? Swiss ephemeris used by Jaganatha Hora or > > the Astrodienst, the provider and user of  the Swiss ephemeris.> > >  > > > Dhanabalan > > >  > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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