Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dear Members, In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord of the sub, has given marriages.(1)Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was Saturn R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 Bhavam (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses vacant. (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury signified 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, 7th Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave marriage. Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the star of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in Aridra star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, marriage took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e star lord's signfn.of sub. Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 dear ramani, your analysis is based on upto starlord only.you have not seen sub also and then how you say that 4th step is not nessesary. -sunil gondhalekar On 8/6/08, Ramani <kadavasalramani wrote: Dear Members, In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord of the sub, has given marriages.(1)Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was Saturn R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 Bhavam (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses vacant. (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury signified 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, 7th Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave marriage. Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the star of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in Aridra star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, marriage took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e star lord's signfn.of sub. Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 It will be practically more helpful for the group to learn the signification at all 3 levels of Planet, Star and Sub and whether the Planet level alone is really sufficient in these 4 cases, " only if " the birth details are provided, i.e all cards are put on the table. , " Ramani " <kadavasalramani wrote: > > Dear Members, > In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord of the sub, has given marriages.(1)Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was Saturn R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 Bhavam (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses vacant. (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury signified 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, 7th Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave marriage. Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the star of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in Aridra star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, marriage took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e star lord's signfn.of sub. > Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Experience is always the BEST TEACHER. Every individual gains experience from his sincere and honest practice. Such personal experience helps him in developing application skills of his theoritical knowledge of the subject. This is the artistic skill of the individual. It makes him perfect and successful in his practice..Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Thu, 7/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:tw853 <tw853 Re: sub signfn.for marriage Date: Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 5:03 PM It will be practically more helpful for the group to learn the signification at all 3 levels of Planet, Star and Sub and whether the Planet level alone is really sufficient in these 4 cases, "only if" the birth details are provided, i.e all cards are put on the table. @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Members, > In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord of the sub, has given marriages.(1) Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was Saturn R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 Bhavam (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses vacant. (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury signified 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, 7th Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave marriage. Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the star of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in Aridra star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, marriage took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e star lord's signfn.of sub. > Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani. > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 It doesn't work in testing the rules. For example, by experience this or that child gender prediction theory is claimed very reliable. When the theory is checked by 150 child births, the correct rate of prediction is around 50-50%, which can also be got without astrology. To check whether Pluto/Neptune's connection with the 7th house is an hinderance for marriage as claimed by experience, the AA (BC & BR) rated charts with Pluto/Neptune in 7th house are picked up by using the filter in the AstroDatabank data SW and over 3oo charts come up. The marriage status is reviewed chart by chart and found the claim by the limited experience is not working. , " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan wrote: > > Experience is always the BEST TEACHER. Every individual gains experience from his sincere and honest practice. Such personal experience helps him in developing application skills of his theoritical knowledge of the subject. This is the artistic skill of the individual. It makes him perfect and successful in his practice.. > > Naidu KP > > K. P. Naidu, > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > Nowroji Road, > Maharanipeta, > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > --- On Thu, 7/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > tw853 <tw853 > Re: sub signfn.for marriage > > Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 5:03 PM > > > > > It will be practically more helpful for the group to learn the > > signification at all 3 levels of Planet, Star and Sub and whether > > the Planet level alone is really sufficient in these 4 cases, " only > > if " the birth details are provided, i.e all cards are put on the > > table. > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord of > > the sub, has given marriages.(1) Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was Saturn > > R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 Bhavam > > (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses vacant. > > (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury signified > > 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, 7th > > Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave marriage. > > Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the star > > of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in Aridra > > star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, marriage > > took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e star > > lord's signfn.of sub. > > > Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 But man always is guided by his own experience. When he wants to to put his experience in black and blue, he makes RULES. Thus Rules are based on experience only. Experience not only one's successes and also Failures.in one's practice. Hence it is said practice makes a man perfect. Experience is a result of practice. Even the Rules framed based on experience can not be the true replica of experience. The scientific aspect only can be passed on from one person to another. The artistic aspect can not be passed on from one person to another. The artistic aspect of one's experience is purely personal and individualistic and dies with the individual. This aspect only brings reputation and fame to the individual. That is why all the astrologers could not become famous and reputed simply by virtue of his rich theoritical knowledge / qualifications. Research study also is a kind of experience. Mere research studies / statistical studies can not give successful results without intuitive skills and Devatha or Devi upasana because Astrology is a Devine science.Take for example Guruji late shri KSK worshipped Lord shree uchista maha Ganapathi.Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sat, 9/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:tw853 <tw853 Re: sub signfn.for marriage Date: Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 7:26 AM It doesn't work in testing the rules. For example, by experience this or that child gender prediction theory is claimed very reliable. When the theory is checked by 150 child births, the correct rate of prediction is around 50-50%, which can also be got without astrology. To check whether Pluto/Neptune' s connection with the 7th house is an hinderance for marriage as claimed by experience, the AA (BC & BR) rated charts with Pluto/Neptune in 7th house are picked up by using the filter in the AstroDatabank data SW and over 3oo charts come up. The marriage status is reviewed chart by chart and found the claim by the limited experience is not working. @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ ...> wrote: > > Experience is always the BEST TEACHER. Every individual gains experience from his sincere and honest practice. Such personal experience helps him in developing application skills of his theoritical knowledge of the subject. This is the artistic skill of the individual. It makes him perfect and successful in his practice.. > > Naidu KP > > K. P. Naidu, > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > Nowroji Road, > Maharanipeta, > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > --- On Thu, 7/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > tw853 <tw853 > Re: sub signfn.for marriage > @gro ups.com > Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 5:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be practically more helpful for the group to learn the > > signification at all 3 levels of Planet, Star and Sub and whether > > the Planet level alone is really sufficient in these 4 cases, "only > > if" the birth details are provided, i.e all cards are put on the > > table. > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord of > > the sub, has given marriages.(1) Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was Saturn > > R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 Bhavam > > (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses vacant. > > (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury signified > > 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, 7th > > Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave marriage. > > Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the star > > of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in Aridra > > star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, marriage > > took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e star > > lord's signfn.of sub. > > > Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/ > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Dear Friend K. P. Naidu ji, What I mean is an astrologer may not come across the 100 charts with Pluto/Neptune in the 7th house in his life time to make a rule, as it requires to be backed by a study of minimum 100 charts. Such study can be done in a short time with the AstroDatabank 4.0 data SW. Regards, tw , " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan wrote: > > But man always is guided by his own experience. When he wants to to put his experience in black and blue, he makes RULES. Thus Rules are based on experience only. Experience not only one's successes and also Failures.in one's practice. Hence it is said practice makes a man perfect. Experience is a result of practice. Even the Rules framed based on experience can not be the true replica of experience. The scientific aspect only can be passed on from one person to another. The artistic aspect can not be passed on from one person to another. The artistic aspect of one's experience is purely personal and individualistic and dies with the individual. This aspect only brings reputation and fame to the individual. That is why all the astrologers could not become famous and reputed simply by virtue of his rich theoritical knowledge / qualifications. Research study also is a kind of experience. Mere research studies / statistical studies can > not give successful results without intuitive skills and Devatha or Devi upasana because Astrology is a Devine science. > Take for example Guruji late shri KSK worshipped Lord shree uchista maha Ganapathi. > > Naidu KP > > K. P. Naidu, > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > Nowroji Road, > Maharanipeta, > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > --- On Sat, 9/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > tw853 <tw853 > Re: sub signfn.for marriage > > Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 7:26 AM > > > > > It doesn't work in testing the rules. For example, by experience > > this or that child gender prediction theory is claimed very > > reliable. When the theory is checked by 150 child births, the > > correct rate of prediction is around 50-50%, which can also be got > > without astrology. To check whether Pluto/Neptune' s connection with > > the 7th house is an hinderance for marriage as claimed by > > experience, the AA (BC & BR) rated charts with Pluto/Neptune in 7th > > house are picked up by using the filter in the AstroDatabank data SW > > and over 3oo charts come up. The marriage status is reviewed chart > > by chart and found the claim by the limited experience is not > > working. > > > > @gro ups.com, " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Experience is always the BEST TEACHER. Every individual gains > > experience from his sincere and honest practice. Such personal > > experience helps him in developing application skills of his > > theoritical knowledge of the subject. This is the artistic skill > > of the individual. It makes him perfect and successful in his > > practice.. > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > Nowroji Road, > > > Maharanipeta, > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > Re: sub signfn.for marriage > > > @gro ups.com > > > Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 5:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be practically more helpful for the group to > > learn the > > > > > > signification at all 3 levels of Planet, Star and Sub and whether > > > > > > the Planet level alone is really sufficient in these 4 > > cases, " only > > > > > > if " the birth details are provided, i.e all cards are put on the > > > > > > table. > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " > > <kadavasalramani@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord of > > > > > > the sub, has given marriages.(1) Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was > > Saturn > > > > > > R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 > > Bhavam > > > > > > (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses > > vacant. > > > > > > (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury > > signified > > > > > > 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, 7th > > > > > > Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave > > marriage. > > > > > > Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the star > > > > > > of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in > > Aridra > > > > > > star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, marriage > > > > > > took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e star > > > > > > lord's signfn.of sub. > > > > > > > Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Dear Naidu Please explain what do you mean by "Astrology is a Devine science."Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: sub signfn.for marriage Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 1:25 PM Dear Friend K. P. Naidu ji,What I mean is an astrologer may not come across the 100 charts with Pluto/Neptune in the 7th house in his life time to make a rule, as it requires to be backed by a study of minimum 100 charts. Such study can be done in a short time with the AstroDatabank 4.0 data SW. Regards,tw @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ ...> wrote:>> But man always is guided by his own experience. When he wants to to put his experience in black and blue, he makes RULES. Thus Rules are based on experience only. Experience not only one's successes and also Failures.in one's practice. Hence it is said practice makes a man perfect. Experience is a result of practice. Even the Rules framed based on experience can not be the true replica of experience. The scientific aspect only can be passed on from one person to another. The artistic aspect can not be passed on from one person to another. The artistic aspect of one's experience is purely personal and individualistic and dies with the individual. This aspect only brings reputation and fame to the individual. That is why all the astrologers could not become famous and reputed simply by virtue of his rich theoritical knowledge / qualifications. Research study also is a kind of experience. Mere research studies / statistical studies can> not give successful results without intuitive skills and Devatha or Devi upasana because Astrology is a Devine science.> Take for example Guruji late shri KSK worshipped Lord shree uchista maha Ganapathi.> > Naidu KP > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Sat, 9/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> tw853 <tw853> Re: sub signfn.for marriage> @gro ups.com> Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 7:26 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't work in testing the rules. For example, by experience > > this or that child gender prediction theory is claimed very > > reliable. When the theory is checked by 150 child births, the > > correct rate of prediction is around 50-50%, which can also be got > > without astrology. To check whether Pluto/Neptune' s connection with > > the 7th house is an hinderance for marriage as claimed by > > experience, the AA (BC & BR) rated charts with Pluto/Neptune in 7th > > house are picked up by using the filter in the AstroDatabank data SW > > and over 3oo charts come up. The marriage status is reviewed chart > > by chart and found the claim by the limited experience is not > > working.> > > > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ ...> > > wrote:> > >> > > Experience is always the BEST TEACHER. Every individual gains > > experience from his sincere and honest practice. Such personal > > experience helps him in developing application skills of his > > theoritical knowledge of the subject. This is the artistic skill > > of the individual. It makes him perfect and successful in his > > practice..> > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > Re: sub signfn.for marriage> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 5:03 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be practically more helpful for the group to > > learn the > > > > > > signification at all 3 levels of Planet, Star and Sub and whether > > > > > > the Planet level alone is really sufficient in these 4 > > cases, "only > > > > > > if" the birth details are provided, i.e all cards are put on the > > > > > > table.> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" > > <kadavasalramani@ ...> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord of > > > > > > the sub, has given marriages.(1) Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was > > Saturn > > > > > > R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 > > Bhavam > > > > > > (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses > > vacant. > > > > > > (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury > > signified > > > > > > 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, 7th > > > > > > Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave > > marriage. > > > > > > Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the star > > > > > > of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in > > Aridra > > > > > > star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, marriage > > > > > > took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e star > > > > > > lord's signfn.of sub. > > > > > > > Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Dear sri Tin Win Ji, My reply reference to generally prevalent practice not with ref to particular case. In support of what I said, I would like to draw your kind attention to the MP Shanmugam's BTR theory which is proved incorrect by the said study of 100 AA charts by sri Rangarajan. In spite of this study report, some KP astrologers, as understood from the messages in this group, some KP astrologers are following MP Shanmugam's BTR Theory. Among such KP astrologers, sri L Y Rao is the foremost who always says the said BTR theory gives 85% success results. This is his / their experience. I, therefore said, ultimately man is guided by his own experience which is his Guru. Regards. Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Sun, 10/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: sub signfn.for marriage Date: Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 6:55 PM Dear Friend K. P. Naidu ji,What I mean is an astrologer may not come across the 100 charts with Pluto/Neptune in the 7th house in his life time to make a rule, as it requires to be backed by a study of minimum 100 charts. Such study can be done in a short time with the AstroDatabank 4.0 data SW. Regards,tw @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ ...> wrote:>> But man always is guided by his own experience. When he wants to to put his experience in black and blue, he makes RULES. Thus Rules are based on experience only. Experience not only one's successes and also Failures.in one's practice. Hence it is said practice makes a man perfect. Experience is a result of practice. Even the Rules framed based on experience can not be the true replica of experience. The scientific aspect only can be passed on from one person to another. The artistic aspect can not be passed on from one person to another. The artistic aspect of one's experience is purely personal and individualistic and dies with the individual. This aspect only brings reputation and fame to the individual. That is why all the astrologers could not become famous and reputed simply by virtue of his rich theoritical knowledge / qualifications. Research study also is a kind of experience. Mere research studies / statistical studies can> not give successful results without intuitive skills and Devatha or Devi upasana because Astrology is a Devine science.> Take for example Guruji late shri KSK worshipped Lord shree uchista maha Ganapathi.> > Naidu KP > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Sat, 9/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> tw853 <tw853> Re: sub signfn.for marriage> @gro ups.com> Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 7:26 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't work in testing the rules. For example, by experience > > this or that child gender prediction theory is claimed very > > reliable. When the theory is checked by 150 child births, the > > correct rate of prediction is around 50-50%, which can also be got > > without astrology. To check whether Pluto/Neptune' s connection with > > the 7th house is an hinderance for marriage as claimed by > > experience, the AA (BC & BR) rated charts with Pluto/Neptune in 7th > > house are picked up by using the filter in the AstroDatabank data SW > > and over 3oo charts come up. The marriage status is reviewed chart > > by chart and found the claim by the limited experience is not > > working.> > > > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ ...> > > wrote:> > >> > > Experience is always the BEST TEACHER. Every individual gains > > experience from his sincere and honest practice. Such personal > > experience helps him in developing application skills of his > > theoritical knowledge of the subject. This is the artistic skill > > of the individual. It makes him perfect and successful in his > > practice..> > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > Re: sub signfn.for marriage> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 5:03 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be practically more helpful for the group to > > learn the > > > > > > signification at all 3 levels of Planet, Star and Sub and whether > > > > > > the Planet level alone is really sufficient in these 4 > > cases, "only > > > > > > if" the birth details are provided, i.e all cards are put on the > > > > > > table.> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" > > <kadavasalramani@ ...> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord of > > > > > > the sub, has given marriages.(1) Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was > > Saturn > > > > > > R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 > > Bhavam > > > > > > (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses > > vacant. > > > > > > (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury > > signified > > > > > > 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, 7th > > > > > > Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave > > marriage. > > > > > > Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the star > > > > > > of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in > > Aridra > > > > > > star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, marriage > > > > > > took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e star > > > > > > lord's signfn.of sub. > > > > > > > Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Dear K. P. Naidu ji, It is up to you to believe what some are saying without being backed by research, for instance one child gender prediction method is said to be correct by experience almost 100% and when checked by 150 child births, less than 50% correct. Regards, tw , " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan wrote: > > Dear sri Tin Win Ji, >  > My reply reference to generally prevalent practice not with ref to particular case. > In support of what I said, I would like to draw your kind attention to the MP Shanmugam's BTR theory which is proved incorrect by the said study of 100 AA charts by sri Rangarajan. In spite of this study report, some KP astrologers, as understood from the messages in this group, some KP astrologers are following MP Shanmugam's BTR Theory. Among such KP astrologers, sri L Y Rao is the foremost who always says the said BTR theory gives 85% success results. This is his / their experience. > I, therefore said, ultimately man is guided by his own experience which is his Guru. >  > Regards. > Naidu KP >  >  >  > > K. P. Naidu, > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > Nowroji Road, > Maharanipeta, > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > tw853 <tw853 > Re: sub signfn.for marriage > > Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 6:55 PM Dear Friend K. P. Naidu ji, > > What I mean is an astrologer may not come across the 100 charts with > Pluto/Neptune in the 7th house in his life time to make a rule, as > it requires to be backed by a study of minimum 100 charts. Such > study can be done in a short time with the AstroDatabank 4.0 data > SW. > > Regards, > > tw > @gro ups.com, " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan@ ...> > wrote: > > > > But man always is guided by his own experience. When he wants to > to put his experience in black and blue, he makes RULES. Thus > Rules are based on experience only. Experience not only one's > successes and also Failures.in one's practice. Hence it is said > practice makes a man perfect. Experience is a result of practice. > Even the Rules framed based on experience can not be the true > replica of experience. The scientific aspect only can be passed on > from one person to another. The artistic aspect can not be passed on > from one person to another. The artistic aspect of one's experience > is purely personal and individualistic and dies with the > individual. This aspect only brings reputation and fame to the > individual. That is why all the astrologers could not become > famous and reputed simply by virtue of his rich theoritical > knowledge / qualifications. Research study also is a kind of > experience. Mere research studies / statistical studies can > > not give successful results without intuitive skills and Devatha > or Devi upasana because Astrology is a Devine science. > > Take for example Guruji late shri KSK worshipped Lord shree > uchista maha Ganapathi. > > > > Naidu KP > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > Nowroji Road, > > Maharanipeta, > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > --- On Sat, 9/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > tw853 <tw853@> > > Re: sub signfn.for marriage > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 7:26 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't work in testing the rules. For example, by > experience > > > > this or that child gender prediction theory is claimed very > > > > reliable. When the theory is checked by 150 child births, the > > > > correct rate of prediction is around 50-50%, which can also be got > > > > without astrology. To check whether Pluto/Neptune' s connection > with > > > > the 7th house is an hinderance for marriage as claimed by > > > > experience, the AA (BC & BR) rated charts with Pluto/Neptune in > 7th > > > > house are picked up by using the filter in the AstroDatabank data > SW > > > > and over 3oo charts come up. The marriage status is reviewed chart > > > > by chart and found the claim by the limited experience is not > > > > working. > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " K. P. Naidu " > <konathalan@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Experience is always the BEST TEACHER. Every individual > gains > > > > experience from his sincere and honest practice. Such > personal > > > > experience helps him in developing application skills > of his > > > > theoritical knowledge of the subject. This is the artistic > skill > > > > of the individual. It makes him perfect and successful in his > > > > practice.. > > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > > Nowroji Road, > > > > > Maharanipeta, > > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > > Re: sub signfn.for marriage > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 5:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be practically more helpful for the group to > > > > learn the > > > > > > > > > > signification at all 3 levels of Planet, Star and Sub and > whether > > > > > > > > > > the Planet level alone is really sufficient in these 4 > > > > cases, " only > > > > > > > > > > if " the birth details are provided, i.e all cards are put on the > > > > > > > > > > table. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " > > > > <kadavasalramani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord > of > > > > > > > > > > the sub, has given marriages.(1) Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 > > > > Bhavam > > > > > > > > > > (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses > > > > vacant. > > > > > > > > > > (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury > > > > signified > > > > > > > > > > 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, > 7th > > > > > > > > > > Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the > star > > > > > > > > > > of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in > > > > Aridra > > > > > > > > > > star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, > marriage > > > > > > > > > > took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e > star > > > > > > > > > > lord's signfn.of sub. > > > > > > > > > > > Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > > > > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- > 08.html/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Hi A very difficult question to answer. But "Astrology is a divine science" because astrology is study of the life of everything , it had hidden many things in it .Through astrology able astrologer will be able to foreseen / forecast which no one can expected or even have athought. it has divinity because predicting of an event is not an an easy joke , through astrology it is possible. Only with the help of planetary positions at the time of birth or Horary Timing of Events has been predicted. Sahhasra Saagara--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Re: sub signfn.for marriage Date: Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 8:17 PM Dear Naidu Please explain what do you mean by "Astrology is a Devine science."Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: sub signfn.for marriage@gro ups.comSunday, August 10, 2008, 1:25 PM Dear Friend K. P. Naidu ji,What I mean is an astrologer may not come across the 100 charts with Pluto/Neptune in the 7th house in his life time to make a rule, as it requires to be backed by a study of minimum 100 charts. Such study can be done in a short time with the AstroDatabank 4.0 data SW. Regards,tw @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ ...> wrote:>> But man always is guided by his own experience. When he wants to to put his experience in black and blue, he makes RULES. Thus Rules are based on experience only. Experience not only one's successes and also Failures.in one's practice. Hence it is said practice makes a man perfect. Experience is a result of practice. Even the Rules framed based on experience can not be the true replica of experience. The scientific aspect only can be passed on from one person to another. The artistic aspect can not be passed on from one person to another. The artistic aspect of one's experience is purely personal and individualistic and dies with the individual. This aspect only brings reputation and fame to the individual. That is why all the astrologers could not become famous and reputed simply by virtue of his rich theoritical knowledge / qualifications. Research study also is a kind of experience. Mere research studies / statistical studies can> not give successful results without intuitive skills and Devatha or Devi upasana because Astrology is a Devine science.> Take for example Guruji late shri KSK worshipped Lord shree uchista maha Ganapathi.> > Naidu KP > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Sat, 9/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> tw853 <tw853> Re: sub signfn.for marriage> @gro ups.com> Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 7:26 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't work in testing the rules. For example, by experience > > this or that child gender prediction theory is claimed very > > reliable. When the theory is checked by 150 child births, the > > correct rate of prediction is around 50-50%, which can also be got > > without astrology. To check whether Pluto/Neptune' s connection with > > the 7th house is an hinderance for marriage as claimed by > > experience, the AA (BC & BR) rated charts with Pluto/Neptune in 7th > > house are picked up by using the filter in the AstroDatabank data SW > > and over 3oo charts come up. The marriage status is reviewed chart > > by chart and found the claim by the limited experience is not > > working.> > > > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ ...> > > wrote:> > >> > > Experience is always the BEST TEACHER. Every individual gains > > experience from his sincere and honest practice. Such personal > > experience helps him in developing application skills of his > > theoritical knowledge of the subject. This is the artistic skill > > of the individual. It makes him perfect and successful in his > > practice..> > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > Re: sub signfn.for marriage> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 5:03 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be practically more helpful for the group to > > learn the > > > > > > signification at all 3 levels of Planet, Star and Sub and whether > > > > > > the Planet level alone is really sufficient in these 4 > > cases, "only > > > > > > if" the birth details are provided, i.e all cards are put on the > > > > > > table.> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" > > <kadavasalramani@ ...> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord of > > > > > > the sub, has given marriages.(1) Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was > > Saturn > > > > > > R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 > > Bhavam > > > > > > (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses > > vacant. > > > > > > (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury > > signified > > > > > > 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, 7th > > > > > > Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave > > marriage. > > > > > > Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the star > > > > > > of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in > > Aridra > > > > > > star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, marriage > > > > > > took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e star > > > > > > lord's signfn.of sub. > > > > > > > Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Dear All, Factual Errors MP Shanmugam's BTR theory which is proved incorrect by the said study of 100 AA charts by sri Rangarajan. 1) 300 AA charts not 100; to make sure 200, double of standard 100 was requested by Rangarajan. and 300, triple of standard 100 was provided and applied in the study. What Lajimi ji is telling and using now is the modified version of the original MP Shanmugam's BTR theory which is proved unreliable, not said "incorrect". Regards, tw , "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan wrote:>> Dear sri Tin Win Ji,>  > My reply reference to generally prevalent practice not with ref to particular case.> In support of what I said, I would like to draw your kind attention to the MP Shanmugam's BTR theory which is proved incorrect by the said study of 100 AA charts by sri Rangarajan. In spite of this study report, some KP astrologers, as understood from the messages in this group, some KP astrologers are following MP Shanmugam's BTR Theory. Among such KP astrologers, sri L Y Rao is the foremost who always says the said BTR theory gives 85% success results. This is his / their experience. > I, therefore said, ultimately man is guided by his own experience which is his Guru.>  > Regards.> Naidu KP>  >  >  > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, tw853 tw853 wrote:> > tw853 tw853 Re: sub signfn.for marriage> > Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 6:55 PM> > > > > > > Dear Friend K. P. Naidu ji,> > What I mean is an astrologer may not come across the 100 charts with > Pluto/Neptune in the 7th house in his life time to make a rule, as > it requires to be backed by a study of minimum 100 charts. Such > study can be done in a short time with the AstroDatabank 4.0 data > SW. > > Regards,> > tw > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ ...> > wrote:> >> > But man always is guided by his own experience. When he wants to > to put his experience in black and blue, he makes RULES. Thus > Rules are based on experience only. Experience not only one's > successes and also Failures.in one's practice. Hence it is said > practice makes a man perfect. Experience is a result of practice. > Even the Rules framed based on experience can not be the true > replica of experience. The scientific aspect only can be passed on > from one person to another. The artistic aspect can not be passed on > from one person to another. The artistic aspect of one's experience > is purely personal and individualistic and dies with the > individual. This aspect only brings reputation and fame to the > individual. That is why all the astrologers could not become > famous and reputed simply by virtue of his rich theoritical > knowledge / qualifications. Research study also is a kind of > experience. Mere research studies / statistical studies can> > not give successful results without intuitive skills and Devatha > or Devi upasana because Astrology is a Devine science.> > Take for example Guruji late shri KSK worshipped Lord shree > uchista maha Ganapathi.> > > > Naidu KP > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > Nowroji Road,> > Maharanipeta,> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > > --- On Sat, 9/8/08, tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > tw853 tw853@> > Re: sub signfn.for marriage> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 7:26 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't work in testing the rules. For example, by > experience > > > > this or that child gender prediction theory is claimed very > > > > reliable. When the theory is checked by 150 child births, the > > > > correct rate of prediction is around 50-50%, which can also be got > > > > without astrology. To check whether Pluto/Neptune' s connection > with > > > > the 7th house is an hinderance for marriage as claimed by > > > > experience, the AA (BC & BR) rated charts with Pluto/Neptune in > 7th > > > > house are picked up by using the filter in the AstroDatabank data > SW > > > > and over 3oo charts come up. The marriage status is reviewed chart > > > > by chart and found the claim by the limited experience is not > > > > working.> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" > <konathalan@ ...> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Experience is always the BEST TEACHER. Every individual > gains > > > > experience from his sincere and honest practice. Such > personal > > > > experience helps him in developing application skills > of his > > > > theoritical knowledge of the subject. This is the artistic > skill > > > > of the individual. It makes him perfect and successful in his > > > > practice..> > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > > > Nowroji Road,> > > > > Maharanipeta,> > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > > > Re: sub signfn.for marriage> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 5:03 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be practically more helpful for the group to > > > > learn the > > > > > > > > > > signification at all 3 levels of Planet, Star and Sub and > whether > > > > > > > > > > the Planet level alone is really sufficient in these 4 > > > > cases, "only > > > > > > > > > > if" the birth details are provided, i.e all cards are put on the > > > > > > > > > > table.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" > > > > <kadavasalramani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, sub signfn. alone, without taking star lord > of > > > > > > > > > > the sub, has given marriages.(1) Mesha Lagna, 7th sub lord was > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > R in 12th in his own star. As he owns 10th, 11th aspecting 2 > > > > Bhavam > > > > > > > > > > (2,7,11) gave the native marriage. Both 10th & 11th houses > > > > vacant. > > > > > > > > > > (2) Dhanur Lagna, 7th sub was Mercury in 10th. As Mercury > > > > signified > > > > > > > > > > 7th thro' his star lord, marriage took place.(3) Kataka Lagna, > 7th > > > > > > > > > > Sub was Venus in 8th, aspected by Saturn R 7th lord, gave > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Venus owner of 11house was vacant and planet was there in the > star > > > > > > > > > > of Venus. (4) Makara Lagna, 7th sub was Moon occupying 5th in > > > > Aridra > > > > > > > > > > star and Rahu was in 10th.As Moon signifies strongly 5th, > marriage > > > > > > > > > > took place. Thus there was no necessity to go to 4th step i.e > star > > > > > > > > > > lord's signfn.of sub. > > > > > > > > > > > Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > > > > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- > 08.html/> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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