Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time to time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 signs,27 constallations,vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets. Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic astrology is only a question and answer between the student Maitreyi and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and developed it further more. Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy and many more . need more search in the field of astrology. I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as predicted queka,hurrickanes,early monsoon, floods etc with the help of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga,mundane astrology. Sahhasra Saagara.--- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966 wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect Date: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM Thank you Shri Dhanabalan,I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words.....Ashutosh On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Ash K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you could understand.. My advice is before learning k.p., first learn vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced stage of vedic. Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect@gro ups.comTuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM Dear Learned Astrologers,This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it uses Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right.regards,Ashutosh ------------ --------- --------- -----On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or conjunction) will be.2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad aspects depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the KP principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet.3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, for instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. Shri Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long ago especially for him.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear members> > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 edition. I reproduce below.> "According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as follows:-> 1> 2> 3….> 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my system."> > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and finally in para 13, he gave above statement.> > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce.> > "Western system amended by K S K.> Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever they form evil aspects during transit, the native wins."> When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable aspect with its radical position…."> > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has first told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he gave examples based on western aspect.> > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966). I reproduce.> > "It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, trine, etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp."> > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as above in para I..> > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit prediction in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect.> > Dhanabalan> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dear Sagar You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out correctly with reliable software. Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for transit analysis. It seems that the books available in the market are not explaining correctly how to use ashtakavarga. I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately with ashtakavarga. Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time to time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets. Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic astrology is only a question and answer between the student Maitreyi and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and developed it further more. Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy and many more . need more search in the field of astrology. I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the help of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology. Sahhasra Saagara.--- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect@gro ups.comTuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM Thank you Shri Dhanabalan,I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words.....Ashutosh On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Ash K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you could understand... My advice is before learning k.p., first learn vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced stage of vedic. Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect@gro ups.comTuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM Dear Learned Astrologers,This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it uses Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right.regards,Ashutosh ------------ --------- --------- -----On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or conjunction) will be.2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad aspects depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the KP principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet.3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, for instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. Shri Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long ago especially for him.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear members> > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 edition.. I reproduce below.> "According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as follows:-> 1> 2> 3….> 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my system."> > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and finally in para 13, he gave above statement.> > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce.> > "Western system amended by K S K.> Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever they form evil aspects during transit, the native wins."> When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable aspect with its radical position…."> > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has first told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he gave examples based on western aspect.> > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966). I reproduce.> > "It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, trine, etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp."> > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as above in para I..> > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit prediction in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect.> > Dhanabalan> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan, I have used ashtakavarga system of predictions for predicting election seats and marks cards. 16 elections proved it. four marks card tallied with the same as I had predicted . in fact i am not using other technical points of Ashtakavarga , i used onle binnashtaka varga. yes KSK doubted it how to consoder ashtakavarga either for sign or for cusp or for bhava. Dr.BVR analysed in different aspect and tried how to make use of it . Mostly I had applied it for analysing longivity some time back which proved accurate . But at present i am not having the details of the same as native is expired in the said period as i remember . Based on the Horary chart I had predicted to a lady that she will met with an heart attack death in the period of Mars and the same happened. For any astrologer his running dasha period is most iMportant .Even varaha mihira could not foreeseen the boar is living body or non-living body. As per my knowledge and experience our predictions will be based on vak siddhi and perticular dasha bhukti antara periods. if our running dasha period is best then our analysis and judgement will be right , if we r running adverse period we will miss some links . SSome events will be hidden by the fate of the native himself , hence we any great scholar wil not get clue of such events as it can not be changed by any one even lord Brahma the creator. Sahhasra Saagara.--- On Wed, 6/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect Date: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 9:20 AM Dear Sagar You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out correctly with reliable software. Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for transit analysis. It seems that the books available in the market are not explaining correctly how to use ashtakavarga. I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately with ashtakavarga. Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) .co.in> wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect@gro ups.comTuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time to time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets. Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic astrology is only a question and answer between the student Maitreyi and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and developed it further more. Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy and many more . need more search in the field of astrology. I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the help of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology. Sahhasra Saagara.--- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect@gro ups.comTuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM Thank you Shri Dhanabalan,I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words.....Ashutosh On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Ash K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you could understand.. . My advice is before learning k.p., first learn vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced stage of vedic. Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect@gro ups.comTuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM Dear Learned Astrologers,This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it uses Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right.regards,Ashutosh ------------ --------- --------- -----On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or conjunction) will be.2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad aspects depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the KP principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet.3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, for instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. Shri Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long ago especially for him.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear members> > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 edition.. I reproduce below.> "According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as follows:-> 1> 2> 3….> 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my system."> > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and finally in para 13, he gave above statement.> > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce.> > "Western system amended by K S K.> Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever they form evil aspects during transit, the native wins."> When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable aspect with its radical position…."> > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has first told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he gave examples based on western aspect.> > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966). I reproduce.> > "It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, trine, etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp."> > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as above in para I..> > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit prediction in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect.> > Dhanabalan> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dear Dahnabalan, Books available in the market is not enough as astrology is not only a ocean but is is Brahmaanda . We had very little knowledge say not even a single percent, with the knowledge of a single percent we are giving many accurate predictions with date of events. If we get moretha one percent knowledge we can foressn every moments events. If go through books on mundane astrology it give very few cities and countris as given by Alen Leo. No one has tried to fix Zodiacle afffinities for each latitude and longitude. Only in 19988/89 I took Mundane astrology and speared 3 days and fixed 4 major quake in which two quakes took place on 7th December 1988 at armenia and i had predicted around Moscow/kabul/afghanistan based on my own technical points of zodiacle affinities to the universe. Then 24th April 1989 at Mexico. I had predicted major hurricanes/storms betweem 21st and 27th May 1989 at NE of India and Bhangala desh . And Hurricanes started on 21st May and hit the land on 24th to 27th at NE. Sahhasra Saagara--- On Wed, 6/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect Date: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 9:20 AM Dear Sagar You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out correctly with reliable software. Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for transit analysis. It seems that the books available in the market are not explaining correctly how to use ashtakavarga. I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately with ashtakavarga. Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) .co.in> wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect@gro ups.comTuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time to time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets. Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic astrology is only a question and answer between the student Maitreyi and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and developed it further more. Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy and many more . need more search in the field of astrology. I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the help of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology. Sahhasra Saagara.--- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect@gro ups.comTuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM Thank you Shri Dhanabalan,I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words.....Ashutosh On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Ash K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you could understand.. . My advice is before learning k.p., first learn vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced stage of vedic. Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect@gro ups.comTuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM Dear Learned Astrologers,This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it uses Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right.regards,Ashutosh ------------ --------- --------- -----On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or conjunction) will be.2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad aspects depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the KP principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet.3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, for instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. Shri Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long ago especially for him.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear members> > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 edition.. I reproduce below.> "According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as follows:-> 1> 2> 3….> 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my system."> > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and finally in para 13, he gave above statement.> > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce.> > "Western system amended by K S K.> Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever they form evil aspects during transit, the native wins."> When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable aspect with its radical position…."> > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has first told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he gave examples based on western aspect.> > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966). I reproduce.> > "It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, trine, etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp."> > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as above in para I..> > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit prediction in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect.> > Dhanabalan> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan, Most probably Mr. KSK was not having good knowledge of Ashtakavarga or he might have tried it with the scanty knowledge that might be “self made theories” put in books in the name of Sages. The powerful Ashtakavarga system’s were kept hidden with Families. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Dhanabalan R Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:50 PM Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect Dear Sagar You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out correctly with reliable software. Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for transit analysis. It seems that the books available in the market are not explaining correctly how to use ashtakavarga. I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately with ashtakavarga. Dhanabalan --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86 Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time to time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets. Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic astrology is only a question and answer between the student Maitreyi and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and developed it further more. Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy and many more . need more search in the field of astrology. I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the help of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology. Sahhasra Saagara. --- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect @gro ups.com Tuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM Thank you Shri Dhanabalan, I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words..... Ashutosh On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Ash K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you could understand... My advice is before learning k.p., first learn vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced stage of vedic. Dhanabalan --- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect @gro ups.com Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM Dear Learned Astrologers, This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it uses Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right. regards, Ashutosh ------------ --------- --------- ----- On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or conjunction) will be. 2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad aspects depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the KP principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet. 3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, for instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. Shri Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long ago especially for him. @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote: > > Dear members > > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 edition.. I reproduce below. > " According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as follows:- > 1 > 2 > 3…. > 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my system. " > > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and finally in para 13, he gave above statement. > > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce. > > " Western system amended by K S K. > Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever they form evil aspects during transit, the native wins. " > When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable aspect with its radical position…. " > > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has first told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he gave examples based on western aspect. > > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966). I reproduce. > > " It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, trine, etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp. " > > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as above in para I.. > > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit prediction in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect. > > Dhanabalan > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dear Sagar Can u name few good books for biginers, on Mundane Astrology and its with publisher name and its availability if u know. Thanks & Regards Sheetal On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Dear Dahnabalan, Books available in the market is not enough as astrology is not only a ocean but is is Brahmaanda . We had very little knowledge say not even a single percent, with the knowledge of a single percent we are giving many accurate predictions with date of events. If we get moretha one percent knowledge we can foressn every moments events. If go through books on mundane astrology it give very few cities and countris as given by Alen Leo. No one has tried to fix Zodiacle afffinities for each latitude and longitude. Only in 19988/89 I took Mundane astrology and speared 3 days and fixed 4 major quake in which two quakes took place on 7th December 1988 at armenia and i had predicted around Moscow/kabul/afghanistan based on my own technical points of zodiacle affinities to the universe. Then 24th April 1989 at Mexico. I had predicted major hurricanes/storms betweem 21st and 27th May 1989 at NE of India and Bhangala desh . And Hurricanes started on 21st May and hit the land on 24th to 27th at NE. Sahhasra Saagara--- On Wed, 6/8/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 9:20 AM Dear Sagar You said that you predicted correctly with ashtakavarga. Whereas Mr.KSK said that ashtakavarga will not give correct prediction. I think the same is said by Mr.B.V.Raman. Most of the computers are calculating the ashtakavarga using parasara method and Varagamigra method. Even I have tried with ashtakavarga but could not succeed. Ekadipadya sothana, trikona sothana, planet pindu and karaka pindu are able to print out correctly with reliable software. Not only myself, most of the astrologers do not know how to use ashtakavarga for prediction. Some said that it is useful only for transit analysis. It seems that the books available in the market are not explaining correctly how to use ashtakavarga. I have read that even one's life can be calculated accurately with ashtakavarga. Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) .co.in> wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re:Astrology itself is from vedic . For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect @gro ups.comTuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:40 PM Astrology itself from vedic, hence any method introducing time to time is nothing but researched and developed with the same 12 signs,27 constallations, vimshothari dasha periods and 9 planets. Parasara school of thoughts is base and foundation of vedic astrology is only a question and answer between the student Maitreyi and Master parashara. Later many more scolar researched and developed it further more. Meena stellar astrology, KSK, KB, Khullur . vaikari ramamurthy and many more . need more search in the field of astrology. I had given the marks card , percentage of seats, etc as well as predicted queka,hurrickanes, early monsoon, floods etc with the help of ashtakavarga and mundane astrology all of my own researched but used vedic astrology method ashtakavarga, mundane astrology. Sahhasra Saagara.--- On Tue, 5/8/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect @gro ups.comTuesday, 5 August, 2008, 4:13 PM Thank you Shri Dhanabalan,I'm greatly encouraged by your kind words.....Ashutosh On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Ash K.P. system is 100% vedic. Mr.KSK developed the K.P. system from vedic astrology only. If you are through in vedic astrology you could understand.. . My advice is before learning k.p., first learn vedic. K.P. is very simple and interesting. It is an advanced stage of vedic. Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com> wrote: ash <ashutosh.1966@ gmail.com>Re: Re: For transit: western aspect or vedic aspect @gro ups.comTuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:01 AM Dear Learned Astrologers,This discussion though enlightening is extremely confusing for beginners... .... Is KP Astrology like Western Astrology as it uses Placidus System and Raphael's Tables ? Then it means we use the TROPICAL ZODIAC. As we know, VEDIC SYTEM uses SIDEREAL ZODIAC...... . . The debate between the two has been going on for ages and unfortunately only ONE system can be right. regards,Ashutosh ------------ --------- --------- -----On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. Use the Vedic aspect in KP like in the KP Readers, keeping in mind that the tighter an orb is, the stronger the aspect (or conjunction) will be.2. Some experimental applications of the Western aspects in the original KP 2 volumes are minimised in the KP Readers, perhaps because of the problem to reconsile the ouright good or bad aspects depending on the type of aspects in the Western aspects and the KP principles of judging whether benefic or malefic planet. 3. If one wants to use the Western aspects in KP, the articles, for instance in KP & Astrology, of Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (not K. Ganapathi, eldest son of Guruji KSK) are advisable to study. Shri Raichur had to coporate the Western aspects in his KP SW long ago especially for him.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear members> > I) Refer pages xviii, xix and xx of Reader V (Transit) 2004 edition.. I reproduce below.> " According to Westerners the correct method of judgement is as follows:-> 1> 2> 3….> 13) The above is followed by westerners and not included in my system. " > > The author explained the western aspect upto para 12 and finally in para 13, he gave above statement. > > II) Please refer pages 256 and 257 in Reader V. I reproduce.> > " Western system amended by K S K.> Lords of 1,2.. houses, whenever they, during transit, form favourable aspects, offer desirable results…, whenever they form evil aspects during transit, the native wins. " > When Saturn transits in Pisces-Meena- and forms favourable aspect with its radical position…. " > > It seems contradictory to the first point. The author has first told that the western system is not followed in k.p. Later he gave examples based on western aspect.> > III) Please refer pages 383 to 388 in volume II (1966). I reproduce.> > " It would then be said to be transiting in sextile, square, trine, etc., to the radical planet or radical cusp. " > > The author explained the western aspect and did not tell as above in para I..> > My question is which aspect we have to use for transit prediction in k.p.? Western or vedic aspect.> > Dhanabalan> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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