Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Dear tw853 1) In your mail, under the heading major changes between original K.P. volumes and the present K.P. Readers, the statement, “To consider the lagna alone (even well known vedic astrologers are doing so):” is not correct. 2) Please refer the book “How to judge A HOROSCOPE” volume II by Mr.B.V.Raman fifth edition. Through out the book, for every example given he considered the concerned bhava karaka, bhava from lagna, bhava lord and bhava from moon for prediction. For example in page 27, for marriage, he considered the above. Even the small vedic astrologer in the village side, he gives prediction based on lagna and also on moon sign. Moon represents our mind and body. Vimsothari dasa is based on moon position. If you feel that the lagna only is important, you can calculate the dasa based on lagna lord. The sage sathiacharia said that the dasa should be calculated either for moon or for lagna lord whichever is stronger. According to him, only the lagna lord should be taken for dasa calculation by the k.p.astrologers. Mr.KSK should have taken lagna lord for dasa calculation for the examples given in the original volumes. 3) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong. 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told as, ".....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon sign.....Therefore, I request all the readers to take only the Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not." 5) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the year 1966,".....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively dealt with in a lucid manner." 6) On going through the paragraph 5, the content of the paragraph 4 is contradictory and are false. It creates bad impression against Mr.KSK. Being a genious, he only came to know in 1965 end that there was no change in moon position for the interval between twin birth is unbeleivable. Even an entry level astrology student knows about it. No more evidence is required to prove that there was no such research as stated during 1965. 7) The book Krishnamoorthy paddhati was published only in 1966. It is told that at the end of 1965, it has been dcided to use only lagna and not moon sign. If it is the case why Mr..K.S.Krishnamoorhy did not inform to the sagar publisher to amend it before publishing. Why he confused the readers. Is there any amendment announced after 1966 to 1972 in this regard so that the readers of volume I & II of sagar publications could avoid taking moon sign as first house. Is it not a mistake on the part of Mr.KSK, keeping mum. No one will accept that there was a research in this regard during 1965. 8) With reference to page 243 of Reader III new edition, the research for moon sign was conducted during 1967 and not 1965 end as stated in Astrosecret part II by Mr.Subramaniam. I am reproducing the sentence in Reader III, “In the research after 1967 it was found that we have to take always the lagna alone. We should never judge which is stronger whether moon sign or lagna. The main reason is that in a twin birth, only the cusps of the house including ascendant change whereas moon is in the same position. What we had been following in K..P. printed in 1966, is to be given up.” Contraversial statements proved that there was no such research either in 1965 or in 1967. 9) In KP Reader III, New Edition, page 303, the prediction was given taking moon sign as first house. When there was a research during 1965 that lagna alone has to be taken for prediction, how this is find a place in the Reader III for all the nine editions, till now. No one will believe that there was a research during 1965 about the moon sign. 10) Mr.KSK has selected the stronger among the moon sign and lagna for the first house in the original volume. He gave many examples based on moon sign as first house and claimed that his predictions were correct and received the award. Whether the examples given in the original books based on moon sign are false. 11) Even in Ruling planets, Mr.KSK has taken only the lagna lord and not lagna starlord. Whereas, he has taken moon sign lord and moon starlord. In 4 step theory also the same is being followed. Mr..KSK gave importance to Moon also. 12) All the vedic astrologers are giving transit predictions based on moon sign. R.Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Out of the same Moon signs, only the Lagna can diferentiate from native to native. , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:c > Dear tw853 > > 1) In your mail, under the heading major changes between original K.P. volumes and the present K.P. Readers, the statement, " To consider the lagna alone (even well known vedic astrologers are doing so): " is not correct. > > 2) Please refer the book " How to judge A HOROSCOPE " volume II by Mr.B.V..Raman fifth edition. Through out the book, for every example given he considered the concerned bhava karaka, bhava from lagna, bhava lord and bhava from moon for prediction. For example in page 27, for marriage, he considered the above. Even the small vedic astrologer in the village side, he gives prediction based on lagna and also on moon sign. Moon represents our mind and body. Vimsothari dasa is based on moon position. If you feel that the lagna only is important, you can calculate the dasa based on lagna lord. The sage sathiacharia said that the dasa should be calculated either for moon or for lagna lord whichever is stronger. According to him, only the lagna lord should be taken for dasa calculation by the k.p.astrologers. Mr.KSK should have taken lagna lord for dasa calculation for the examples given in the original volumes. > > 3) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong. > > 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told as, " .....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon sign......Therefore, I request all the readers to take only the Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not. " > > 5) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the year 1966, " .....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively dealt with in a lucid manner. " > > 6) On going through the paragraph 5, the content of the paragraph 4 is contradictory and are false. It creates bad impression against Mr.KSK. Being a genious, he only came to know in 1965 end that there was no change in moon position for the interval between twin birth is unbeleivable. Even an entry level astrology student knows about it. No more evidence is required to prove that there was no such research as stated during 1965. > > 7) The book Krishnamoorthy paddhati was published only in 1966. It is told that at the end of 1965, it has been dcided to use only lagna and not moon sign. If it is the case why Mr.K.S.Krishnamoorhy did not inform to the sagar publisher to amend it before publishing. Why he confused the readers. Is there any amendment announced after 1966 to 1972 in this regard so that the readers of volume I & II of sagar publications could avoid taking moon sign as first house. Is it not a mistake on the part of Mr.KSK, keeping mum. No one will accept that there was a research in this regard during 1965. > > 8) With reference to page 243 of Reader III new edition, the research for moon sign was conducted during 1967 and not 1965 end as stated in Astrosecret part II by Mr.Subramaniam. I am reproducing the sentence in Reader III, " In the research after 1967 it was found that we have to take always the lagna alone. We should never judge which is stronger whether moon sign or lagna. The main reason is that in a twin birth, only the cusps of the house including ascendant change whereas moon is in the same position. What we had been following in K.P. printed in 1966, is to be given up. " Contraversial statements proved that there was no such research either in 1965 or in 1967. > > 9) In KP Reader III, New Edition, page 303, the prediction was given taking moon sign as first house. When there was a research during 1965 that lagna alone has to be taken for prediction, how this is find a place in the Reader III for all the nine editions, till now. No one will believe that there was a research during 1965 about the moon sign. > > 10) Mr.KSK has selected the stronger among the moon sign and lagna for the first house in the original volume. He gave many examples based on moon sign as first house and claimed that his predictions were correct and received the award. Whether the examples given in the original books based on moon sign are false. > > 11) Even in Ruling planets, Mr.KSK has taken only the lagna lord and not lagna starlord. Whereas, he has taken moon sign lord and moon starlord. In 4 step theory also the same is being followed. Mr.KSK gave importance to Moon also. > > 12) All the vedic astrologers are giving transit predictions based on moon sign. > > R.Dhanabalan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Moon sign is general and only Lagna is particular to differentiate in the prediction of twins births. , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > Dear tw853 > > 1) In your mail, under the heading major changes between original K.P. volumes and the present K.P. Readers, the statement, " To consider the lagna alone (even well known vedic astrologers are doing so): " is not correct. > > 2) Please refer the book " How to judge A HOROSCOPE " volume II by Mr.B.V..Raman fifth edition. Through out the book, for every example given he considered the concerned bhava karaka, bhava from lagna, bhava lord and bhava from moon for prediction. For example in page 27, for marriage, he considered the above. Even the small vedic astrologer in the village side, he gives prediction based on lagna and also on moon sign. Moon represents our mind and body. Vimsothari dasa is based on moon position. If you feel that the lagna only is important, you can calculate the dasa based on lagna lord. The sage sathiacharia said that the dasa should be calculated either for moon or for lagna lord whichever is stronger. According to him, only the lagna lord should be taken for dasa calculation by the k.p.astrologers. Mr.KSK should have taken lagna lord for dasa calculation for the examples given in the original volumes. > > 3) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong. > > 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told as, " .....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon sign......Therefore, I request all the readers to take only the Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not. " > > 5) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the year 1966, " .....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively dealt with in a lucid manner. " > > 6) On going through the paragraph 5, the content of the paragraph 4 is contradictory and are false. It creates bad impression against Mr.KSK. Being a genious, he only came to know in 1965 end that there was no change in moon position for the interval between twin birth is unbeleivable. Even an entry level astrology student knows about it. No more evidence is required to prove that there was no such research as stated during 1965. > > 7) The book Krishnamoorthy paddhati was published only in 1966. It is told that at the end of 1965, it has been dcided to use only lagna and not moon sign. If it is the case why Mr.K.S.Krishnamoorhy did not inform to the sagar publisher to amend it before publishing. Why he confused the readers. Is there any amendment announced after 1966 to 1972 in this regard so that the readers of volume I & II of sagar publications could avoid taking moon sign as first house. Is it not a mistake on the part of Mr.KSK, keeping mum. No one will accept that there was a research in this regard during 1965. > > 8) With reference to page 243 of Reader III new edition, the research for moon sign was conducted during 1967 and not 1965 end as stated in Astrosecret part II by Mr.Subramaniam. I am reproducing the sentence in Reader III, " In the research after 1967 it was found that we have to take always the lagna alone. We should never judge which is stronger whether moon sign or lagna. The main reason is that in a twin birth, only the cusps of the house including ascendant change whereas moon is in the same position. What we had been following in K.P. printed in 1966, is to be given up. " Contraversial statements proved that there was no such research either in 1965 or in 1967. > > 9) In KP Reader III, New Edition, page 303, the prediction was given taking moon sign as first house. When there was a research during 1965 that lagna alone has to be taken for prediction, how this is find a place in the Reader III for all the nine editions, till now. No one will believe that there was a research during 1965 about the moon sign. > > 10) Mr.KSK has selected the stronger among the moon sign and lagna for the first house in the original volume. He gave many examples based on moon sign as first house and claimed that his predictions were correct and received the award. Whether the examples given in the original books based on moon sign are false. > > 11) Even in Ruling planets, Mr.KSK has taken only the lagna lord and not lagna starlord. Whereas, he has taken moon sign lord and moon starlord. In 4 step theory also the same is being followed. Mr.KSK gave importance to Moon also. > > 12) All the vedic astrologers are giving transit predictions based on moon sign. > > R.Dhanabalan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Dear tw853 In case of single birth, if moon sign is stronger than lagna & lagna is afflicted, shall we take moon sign as first house instead of lagna. R.Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/3/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: Confusion 3: Moon sign as lagna Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 10:54 AM Moon sign is general and only Lagna is particular to differentiate in the prediction of twins births.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear tw853> > 1) In your mail, under the heading major changes between original K.P. volumes and the present K.P. Readers, the statement, "To consider the lagna alone (even well known vedic astrologers are doing so):" is not correct. > > 2) Please refer the book "How to judge A HOROSCOPE" volume II by Mr.B.V..Raman fifth edition. Through out the book, for every example given he considered the concerned bhava karaka, bhava from lagna, bhava lord and bhava from moon for prediction. For example in page 27, for marriage, he considered the above. Even the small vedic astrologer in the village side, he gives prediction based on lagna and also on moon sign. Moon represents our mind and body. Vimsothari dasa is based on moon position. If you feel that the lagna only is important, you can calculate the dasa based on lagna lord. The sage sathiacharia said that the dasa should be calculated either for moon or for lagna lord whichever is stronger. According to him, only the lagna lord should be taken for dasa calculation by the k.p.astrologers. Mr.KSK should have taken lagna lord for dasa calculation for the examples given in the original volumes.> > 3) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong.> > 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told as, ".....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon sign......Therefore , I request all the readers to take only the Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not."> > 5) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the year 1966,".....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively dealt with in a lucid manner."> > 6) On going through the paragraph 5, the content of the paragraph 4 is contradictory and are false. It creates bad impression against Mr.KSK. Being a genious, he only came to know in 1965 end that there was no change in moon position for the interval between twin birth is unbeleivable. Even an entry level astrology student knows about it. No more evidence is required to prove that there was no such research as stated during 1965. > > 7) The book Krishnamoorthy paddhati was published only in 1966. It is told that at the end of 1965, it has been dcided to use only lagna and not moon sign. If it is the case why Mr.K.S.Krishnamoorh y did not inform to the sagar publisher to amend it before publishing. Why he confused the readers. Is there any amendment announced after 1966 to 1972 in this regard so that the readers of volume I & II of sagar publications could avoid taking moon sign as first house. Is it not a mistake on the part of Mr.KSK, keeping mum. No one will accept that there was a research in this regard during 1965.> > 8) With reference to page 243 of Reader III new edition, the research for moon sign was conducted during 1967 and not 1965 end as stated in Astrosecret part II by Mr.Subramaniam. I am reproducing the sentence in Reader III, "In the research after 1967 it was found that we have to take always the lagna alone. We should never judge which is stronger whether moon sign or lagna. The main reason is that in a twin birth, only the cusps of the house including ascendant change whereas moon is in the same position. What we had been following in K.P. printed in 1966, is to be given up." Contraversial statements proved that there was no such research either in 1965 or in 1967.> > 9) In KP Reader III, New Edition, page 303, the prediction was given taking moon sign as first house. When there was a research during 1965 that lagna alone has to be taken for prediction, how this is find a place in the Reader III for all the nine editions, till now. No one will believe that there was a research during 1965 about the moon sign.> > 10) Mr.KSK has selected the stronger among the moon sign and lagna for the first house in the original volume. He gave many examples based on moon sign as first house and claimed that his predictions were correct and received the award. Whether the examples given in the original books based on moon sign are false. > > 11) Even in Ruling planets, Mr.KSK has taken only the lagna lord and not lagna starlord. Whereas, he has taken moon sign lord and moon starlord. In 4 step theory also the same is being followed. Mr.KSK gave importance to Moon also.> > 12) All the vedic astrologers are giving transit predictions based on moon sign.> > R.Dhanabalan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Dear tw853 Do you think that Mr.KSK was not aware of it before 1965. R.Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/3/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: Confusion 3: Moon sign as lagna Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 10:48 AM Out of the same Moon signs, only the Lagna can diferentiate from native to native.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:c> Dear tw853> > 1) In your mail, under the heading major changes between original K.P. volumes and the present K.P. Readers, the statement, "To consider the lagna alone (even well known vedic astrologers are doing so):" is not correct. > > 2) Please refer the book "How to judge A HOROSCOPE" volume II by Mr.B.V..Raman fifth edition. Through out the book, for every example given he considered the concerned bhava karaka, bhava from lagna, bhava lord and bhava from moon for prediction. For example in page 27, for marriage, he considered the above. Even the small vedic astrologer in the village side, he gives prediction based on lagna and also on moon sign. Moon represents our mind and body. Vimsothari dasa is based on moon position. If you feel that the lagna only is important, you can calculate the dasa based on lagna lord. The sage sathiacharia said that the dasa should be calculated either for moon or for lagna lord whichever is stronger. According to him, only the lagna lord should be taken for dasa calculation by the k.p.astrologers. Mr.KSK should have taken lagna lord for dasa calculation for the examples given in the original volumes.> > 3) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong.> > 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told as, ".....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon sign......Therefore , I request all the readers to take only the Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not."> > 5) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the year 1966,".....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively dealt with in a lucid manner."> > 6) On going through the paragraph 5, the content of the paragraph 4 is contradictory and are false. It creates bad impression against Mr.KSK. Being a genious, he only came to know in 1965 end that there was no change in moon position for the interval between twin birth is unbeleivable. Even an entry level astrology student knows about it. No more evidence is required to prove that there was no such research as stated during 1965. > > 7) The book Krishnamoorthy paddhati was published only in 1966. It is told that at the end of 1965, it has been dcided to use only lagna and not moon sign. If it is the case why Mr.K.S.Krishnamoorh y did not inform to the sagar publisher to amend it before publishing. Why he confused the readers. Is there any amendment announced after 1966 to 1972 in this regard so that the readers of volume I & II of sagar publications could avoid taking moon sign as first house. Is it not a mistake on the part of Mr.KSK, keeping mum. No one will accept that there was a research in this regard during 1965.> > 8) With reference to page 243 of Reader III new edition, the research for moon sign was conducted during 1967 and not 1965 end as stated in Astrosecret part II by Mr.Subramaniam. I am reproducing the sentence in Reader III, "In the research after 1967 it was found that we have to take always the lagna alone. We should never judge which is stronger whether moon sign or lagna. The main reason is that in a twin birth, only the cusps of the house including ascendant change whereas moon is in the same position. What we had been following in K.P. printed in 1966, is to be given up." Contraversial statements proved that there was no such research either in 1965 or in 1967.> > 9) In KP Reader III, New Edition, page 303, the prediction was given taking moon sign as first house. When there was a research during 1965 that lagna alone has to be taken for prediction, how this is find a place in the Reader III for all the nine editions, till now. No one will believe that there was a research during 1965 about the moon sign.> > 10) Mr.KSK has selected the stronger among the moon sign and lagna for the first house in the original volume. He gave many examples based on moon sign as first house and claimed that his predictions were correct and received the award. Whether the examples given in the original books based on moon sign are false. > > 11) Even in Ruling planets, Mr.KSK has taken only the lagna lord and not lagna starlord. Whereas, he has taken moon sign lord and moon starlord. In 4 step theory also the same is being followed. Mr.KSK gave importance to Moon also.> > 12) All the vedic astrologers are giving transit predictions based on moon sign.> > R.Dhanabalan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 The answer is in the recently uploaded Picture 19 signed by Guruji KSK, using his title and date, under the "kp2volumes" in the file section. , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:>> Dear tw853> > Do you think that Mr.KSK was not aware of it before 1965.> > R.Dhanabalan> > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, tw853 tw853 wrote:> > tw853 tw853 Re: Confusion 3: Moon sign as lagna> > Sunday, August 3, 2008, 10:48 AM> > > > > > > Out of the same Moon signs, only the Lagna can diferentiate from > native to native.> > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > wrote:c> > Dear tw853> > > > 1) In your mail, under the heading major changes between original > K.P. volumes and the present K.P. Readers, the statement, "To > consider the lagna alone (even well known vedic astrologers are > doing so):" is not correct. > > > > 2) Please refer the book "How to judge A HOROSCOPE" volume II by > Mr.B.V..Raman fifth edition. Through out the book, for every example > given he considered the concerned bhava karaka, bhava from lagna, > bhava lord and bhava from moon for prediction. For example in page > 27, for marriage, he considered the above. Even the small vedic > astrologer in the village side, he gives prediction based on lagna > and also on moon sign. Moon represents our mind and body. Vimsothari > dasa is based on moon position. If you feel that the lagna only is > important, you can calculate the dasa based on lagna lord. The sage > sathiacharia said that the dasa should be calculated either for moon > or for lagna lord whichever is stronger. According to him, only the > lagna lord should be taken for dasa calculation by the > k.p.astrologers. Mr.KSK should have taken lagna lord for dasa > calculation for the examples given in the original volumes.> > > > 3) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications > in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He > also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or > moon sign is strong.> > > > 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd > edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told > as, ".....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that > when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, > whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, > came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results > amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon > sign......Therefore , I request all the readers to take only the > Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not."> > > > 5) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page > (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the > year 1966,".....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the > twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the > twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it > is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out > correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which > are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of > event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction > of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out > correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively > dealt with in a lucid manner."> > > > 6) On going through the paragraph 5, the content of the paragraph > 4 is contradictory and are false. It creates bad impression against > Mr.KSK. Being a genious, he only came to know in 1965 end that there > was no change in moon position for the interval between twin birth > is unbeleivable. Even an entry level astrology student knows about > it. No more evidence is required to prove that there was no such > research as stated during 1965. > > > > 7) The book Krishnamoorthy paddhati was published only in 1966. It > is told that at the end of 1965, it has been dcided to use only > lagna and not moon sign. If it is the case why Mr.K.S.Krishnamoorh y > did not inform to the sagar publisher to amend it before publishing. > Why he confused the readers. Is there any amendment announced after > 1966 to 1972 in this regard so that the readers of volume I & II of > sagar publications could avoid taking moon sign as first house. Is > it not a mistake on the part of Mr.KSK, keeping mum. No one will > accept that there was a research in this regard during 1965.> > > > 8) With reference to page 243 of Reader III new edition, the > research for moon sign was conducted during 1967 and not 1965 end as > stated in Astrosecret part II by Mr.Subramaniam. I am reproducing > the sentence in Reader III, "In the research after 1967 it was found > that we have to take always the lagna alone. We should never judge > which is stronger whether moon sign or lagna. The main reason is > that in a twin birth, only the cusps of the house including > ascendant change whereas moon is in the same position. What we had > been following in K.P. printed in 1966, is to be given > up." Contraversial statements proved that there was no such > research either in 1965 or in 1967.> > > > 9) In KP Reader III, New Edition, page 303, the prediction was > given taking moon sign as first house. When there was a research > during 1965 that lagna alone has to be taken for prediction, how > this is find a place in the Reader III for all the nine editions, > till now. No one will believe that there was a research during 1965 > about the moon sign.> > > > 10) Mr.KSK has selected the stronger among the moon sign and lagna > for the first house in the original volume. He gave many examples > based on moon sign as first house and claimed that his predictions > were correct and received the award. Whether the examples given in > the original books based on moon sign are false. > > > > 11) Even in Ruling planets, Mr.KSK has taken only the lagna lord > and not lagna starlord. Whereas, he has taken moon sign lord and > moon starlord. In 4 step theory also the same is being followed. > Mr.KSK gave importance to Moon also.> > > > 12) All the vedic astrologers are giving transit predictions based > on moon sign.> > > > R.Dhanabalan> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Guruji KSK says to take always Lagna alone (in whether single birth or twin birth). , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:>> Dear tw853> > In case of single birth, if moon sign is stronger than lagna & lagna is afflicted, shall we take moon sign as first house instead of lagna.> > R.Dhanabalan> > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, tw853 tw853 wrote:> > tw853 tw853 Re: Confusion 3: Moon sign as lagna> > Sunday, August 3, 2008, 10:54 AM> > > > > > > Moon sign is general and only Lagna is particular to differentiate > in the prediction of twins births.> > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > wrote:> >> > Dear tw853> > > > 1) In your mail, under the heading major changes between original > K.P. volumes and the present K.P. Readers, the statement, "To > consider the lagna alone (even well known vedic astrologers are > doing so):" is not correct. > > > > 2) Please refer the book "How to judge A HOROSCOPE" volume II by > Mr.B.V..Raman fifth edition. Through out the book, for every example > given he considered the concerned bhava karaka, bhava from lagna, > bhava lord and bhava from moon for prediction. For example in page > 27, for marriage, he considered the above. Even the small vedic > astrologer in the village side, he gives prediction based on lagna > and also on moon sign. Moon represents our mind and body. Vimsothari > dasa is based on moon position. If you feel that the lagna only is > important, you can calculate the dasa based on lagna lord. The sage > sathiacharia said that the dasa should be calculated either for moon > or for lagna lord whichever is stronger. According to him, only the > lagna lord should be taken for dasa calculation by the > k.p.astrologers. Mr.KSK should have taken lagna lord for dasa > calculation for the examples given in the original volumes.> > > > 3) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications > in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He > also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or > moon sign is strong.> > > > 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd > edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told > as, ".....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that > when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, > whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, > came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results > amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon > sign......Therefore , I request all the readers to take only the > Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not."> > > > 5) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page > (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the > year 1966,".....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the > twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the > twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it > is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out > correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which > are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of > event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction > of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out > correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively > dealt with in a lucid manner."> > > > 6) On going through the paragraph 5, the content of the paragraph > 4 is contradictory and are false. It creates bad impression against > Mr.KSK. Being a genious, he only came to know in 1965 end that there > was no change in moon position for the interval between twin birth > is unbeleivable. Even an entry level astrology student knows about > it. No more evidence is required to prove that there was no such > research as stated during 1965. > > > > 7) The book Krishnamoorthy paddhati was published only in 1966. It > is told that at the end of 1965, it has been dcided to use only > lagna and not moon sign. If it is the case why Mr.K.S.Krishnamoorh y > did not inform to the sagar publisher to amend it before publishing. > Why he confused the readers. Is there any amendment announced after > 1966 to 1972 in this regard so that the readers of volume I & II of > sagar publications could avoid taking moon sign as first house. Is > it not a mistake on the part of Mr.KSK, keeping mum. No one will > accept that there was a research in this regard during 1965.> > > > 8) With reference to page 243 of Reader III new edition, the > research for moon sign was conducted during 1967 and not 1965 end as > stated in Astrosecret part II by Mr.Subramaniam. I am reproducing > the sentence in Reader III, "In the research after 1967 it was found > that we have to take always the lagna alone. We should never judge > which is stronger whether moon sign or lagna. The main reason is > that in a twin birth, only the cusps of the house including > ascendant change whereas moon is in the same position. What we had > been following in K.P. printed in 1966, is to be given > up." Contraversial statements proved that there was no such > research either in 1965 or in 1967.> > > > 9) In KP Reader III, New Edition, page 303, the prediction was > given taking moon sign as first house. When there was a research > during 1965 that lagna alone has to be taken for prediction, how > this is find a place in the Reader III for all the nine editions, > till now. No one will believe that there was a research during 1965 > about the moon sign.> > > > 10) Mr.KSK has selected the stronger among the moon sign and lagna > for the first house in the original volume. He gave many examples > based on moon sign as first house and claimed that his predictions > were correct and received the award. Whether the examples given in > the original books based on moon sign are false. > > > > 11) Even in Ruling planets, Mr.KSK has taken only the lagna lord > and not lagna starlord. Whereas, he has taken moon sign lord and > moon starlord. In 4 step theory also the same is being followed. > Mr.KSK gave importance to Moon also.> > > > 12) All the vedic astrologers are giving transit predictions based > on moon sign.> > > > R.Dhanabalan> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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