Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Dear members 1) There is a doubt among the members whether moon sign is to be taken as first house in k.p. when the lagna is afflicted and moon sign is strong. 2) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong. Mr.K.S.Krishnamoorthy advised the readers to use moon sign if it is strong and lagna is afflicted. This method of prediction is still in vogue in vedic. As I already told, k.p. is not far away from vedic system. 3) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the year 1966,".....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events.......it is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction of the querist and the astrologer....as the prediction comes out correctly....well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively dealt with in a lucid manner." 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told as, ".....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon sign.....Therefore, I request all the readers to take only the Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not." 5) Mr.KSK was a genious person, studied most of the vedic books and published his system as correct. Mr.KSK would not have given the above statement degrading himself after the receipt of the tile "Jyotish Marthand " and Gold medal. The above statement will spoil the image of Mr.KSK and the k.p.system. 6) Mr.KSK said that the square aspect and opposition aspect in the western system will give evil effect. The book Prasana tantra by Mr.B.V.Raman explained the evil effects of square aspect and opposition aspect. This book is mere translation from sanskrit. The original author is Neelakanta...Whereas his son Mr.Hariharan said that there is no evil effect for the square aspect and opposition aspect. 7) In the book Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, in page 7, he states as,"...Sub-lord is not a planet. And this sub lord is also not a star....". Whereas, the sublord is taken as planet in all the k.p.Readers. Mr.KSK never ever said anywhere in volume I & II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati that the sublord is a planet. 8) With reference to the volume II, six fold general significator table should be followed instead of the existing 4 fold. 9) My suggestion: The cuspal star lord and cuspal sublord have to be given importance. We can link the planet starlord and sublord to the cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord. R.Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan, The doubt no longer exists...our late Guruji has himself very clearly clarified after a lot of experimentation,and opined..."...from now on always use the Lagna,as the first house...and never the Moon rasi..." The new readers in K.P. mentioned this fact... It is an important requirement therefore,to keep updating oneself to the latest developments in K.P.,Mr.Dhanabalan... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalankpsystem groups Saturday, 26 July, 2008 9:27:17 PM Moon sign as first house in k.p. Dear members 1) There is a doubt among the members whether moon sign is to be taken as first house in k.p. when the lagna is afflicted and moon sign is strong. 2) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong. Mr.K.S.Krishnamoort hy advised the readers to use moon sign if it is strong and lagna is afflicted. This method of prediction is still in vogue in vedic. As I already told, k.p. is not far away from vedic system. 3) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the year 1966,".....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively dealt with in a lucid manner." 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told as, ".....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon sign.....Therefore, I request all the readers to take only the Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not." 5) Mr.KSK was a genious person, studied most of the vedic books and published his system as correct. Mr.KSK would not have given the above statement degrading himself after the receipt of the tile "Jyotish Marthand " and Gold medal. The above statement will spoil the image of Mr.KSK and the k.p.system. 6) Mr.KSK said that the square aspect and opposition aspect in the western system will give evil effect. The book Prasana tantra by Mr.B.V.Raman explained the evil effects of square aspect and opposition aspect. This book is mere translation from sanskrit. The original author is Neelakanta.. .Whereas his son Mr.Hariharan said that there is no evil effect for the square aspect and opposition aspect. 7) In the book Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, in page 7, he states as,"...Sub-lord is not a planet. And this sub lord is also not a star....". Whereas, the sublord is taken as planet in all the k.p.Readers. Mr.KSK never ever said anywhere in volume I & II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati that the sublord is a planet. 8) With reference to the volume II, six fold general significator table should be followed instead of the existing 4 fold. 9) My suggestion: The cuspal star lord and cuspal sublord have to be given importance. We can link the planet starlord and sublord to the cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord. R.Dhanabalan Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Hi Lagna is strong in all respect. Only we should analyse properly tha chart . Sahhasra Saagara--- On Sat, 26/7/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Moon sign as first house in k.p."kpsystem groups" Saturday, 26 July, 2008, 9:27 PM Dear members 1) There is a doubt among the members whether moon sign is to be taken as first house in k.p. when the lagna is afflicted and moon sign is strong. 2) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong. Mr.K.S.Krishnamoort hy advised the readers to use moon sign if it is strong and lagna is afflicted. This method of prediction is still in vogue in vedic. As I already told, k.p. is not far away from vedic system. 3) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the year 1966,".....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively dealt with in a lucid manner." 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told as, ".....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon sign.....Therefore, I request all the readers to take only the Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not." 5) Mr.KSK was a genious person, studied most of the vedic books and published his system as correct. Mr.KSK would not have given the above statement degrading himself after the receipt of the tile "Jyotish Marthand " and Gold medal. The above statement will spoil the image of Mr.KSK and the k.p.system. 6) Mr.KSK said that the square aspect and opposition aspect in the western system will give evil effect. The book Prasana tantra by Mr.B.V.Raman explained the evil effects of square aspect and opposition aspect. This book is mere translation from sanskrit. The original author is Neelakanta.. .Whereas his son Mr.Hariharan said that there is no evil effect for the square aspect and opposition aspect. 7) In the book Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, in page 7, he states as,"...Sub-lord is not a planet. And this sub lord is also not a star....". Whereas, the sublord is taken as planet in all the k.p.Readers. Mr.KSK never ever said anywhere in volume I & II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati that the sublord is a planet. 8) With reference to the volume II, six fold general significator table should be followed instead of the existing 4 fold. 9) My suggestion: The cuspal star lord and cuspal sublord have to be given importance. We can link the planet starlord and sublord to the cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord. R.Dhanabalan Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 This question has been asked many tims. The reply is always, you have to take the Lagna only as 1st house raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 7/26/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Moon sign as first house in k.p."kpsystem groups" Saturday, July 26, 2008, 9:27 PM Dear members 1) There is a doubt among the members whether moon sign is to be taken as first house in k.p. when the lagna is afflicted and moon sign is strong. 2) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong. Mr.K.S.Krishnamoort hy advised the readers to use moon sign if it is strong and lagna is afflicted. This method of prediction is still in vogue in vedic. As I already told, k.p. is not far away from vedic system. 3) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the year 1966,".....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively dealt with in a lucid manner." 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told as, ".....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon sign.....Therefore, I request all the readers to take only the Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not." 5) Mr.KSK was a genious person, studied most of the vedic books and published his system as correct. Mr.KSK would not have given the above statement degrading himself after the receipt of the tile "Jyotish Marthand " and Gold medal. The above statement will spoil the image of Mr.KSK and the k.p.system. 6) Mr.KSK said that the square aspect and opposition aspect in the western system will give evil effect. The book Prasana tantra by Mr.B.V.Raman explained the evil effects of square aspect and opposition aspect. This book is mere translation from sanskrit. The original author is Neelakanta.. .Whereas his son Mr.Hariharan said that there is no evil effect for the square aspect and opposition aspect. 7) In the book Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, in page 7, he states as,"...Sub-lord is not a planet. And this sub lord is also not a star....". Whereas, the sublord is taken as planet in all the k.p.Readers. Mr.KSK never ever said anywhere in volume I & II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati that the sublord is a planet. 8) With reference to the volume II, six fold general significator table should be followed instead of the existing 4 fold. 9) My suggestion: The cuspal star lord and cuspal sublord have to be given importance. We can link the planet starlord and sublord to the cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord. R.Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Dear Raichur Do you mean that the predictions based on moon sign as lagna by Mr.KSK in his books published in 1966 are false. Whether those books are half baked R.Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 7/28/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Moon sign as first house in k.p. Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 1:38 PM This question has been asked many tims. The reply is always, you have to take the Lagna only as 1st house raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 7/26/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Moon sign as first house in k.p."kpsystem groups" <@gro ups.com>Saturday, July 26, 2008, 9:27 PM Dear members 1) There is a doubt among the members whether moon sign is to be taken as first house in k.p. when the lagna is afflicted and moon sign is strong. 2) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong. Mr.K.S.Krishnamoort hy advised the readers to use moon sign if it is strong and lagna is afflicted. This method of prediction is still in vogue in vedic. As I already told, k.p. is not far away from vedic system. 3) I am reproducing what Mr.KSK said in the introduction in page (i) of Krishnamoorthy paddhati volume I by sagar publications in the year 1966,".....I concentrated the study upon the horoscopes of the twin births. I collected data regarding the time of birth of the twins, the various results enjoyed by them of such events...... .it is evident and clear especially in twins, since the rule comes out correct....By the grace of the God, I evolved certain methods which are most convincing, very clear and pin-pointing to the time of event and explaining the nature of event to the entire satisfaction of the querist and the astrologer.. ..as the prediction comes out correctly... .well explained, properly illustrated and exhaustively dealt with in a lucid manner." 4) In Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, S/o Mr.KSK, 3rd edition 2003, page 190, he reproduced what Mr.KSK told as, ".....But in my research, only in 1965 end, I understood that when twins are born, moon does not move even a single minute, whereas the Lagna alone moves and when the research on the sub-lord, came out successful to read out the diametrically opposite results amongst twins, I have given up the idea of taking moon sign.....Therefore, I request all the readers to take only the Lagna and never the Moon sign, whether lagna is afflicted or not." 5) Mr.KSK was a genious person, studied most of the vedic books and published his system as correct. Mr.KSK would not have given the above statement degrading himself after the receipt of the tile "Jyotish Marthand " and Gold medal. The above statement will spoil the image of Mr.KSK and the k.p.system. 6) Mr.KSK said that the square aspect and opposition aspect in the western system will give evil effect. The book Prasana tantra by Mr.B.V.Raman explained the evil effects of square aspect and opposition aspect. This book is mere translation from sanskrit. The original author is Neelakanta.. .Whereas his son Mr.Hariharan said that there is no evil effect for the square aspect and opposition aspect. 7) In the book Astrosecret part II by Mr.K.Subramaniam, in page 7, he states as,"...Sub-lord is not a planet. And this sub lord is also not a star....". Whereas, the sublord is taken as planet in all the k.p.Readers. Mr.KSK never ever said anywhere in volume I & II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati that the sublord is a planet. 8) With reference to the volume II, six fold general significator table should be followed instead of the existing 4 fold. 9) My suggestion: The cuspal star lord and cuspal sublord have to be given importance. We can link the planet starlord and sublord to the cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord. R.Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan, Would you please quote the rules specified in Vol II for finding out whether Lagna is strong or Moon sign is strong Regards, Upadhyaya , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan > 2) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Dear upadhyaya The out come of the discussion is to use only lagna and not moon sign for k.p. system as first house even for single birth. Discussion on this topic is over. If you want to follow the vedic method, you need not consider which is strong. Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, upadhyaya_p_s <upadhyaya.p.s wrote: upadhyaya_p_s <upadhyaya.p.s Re: Moon sign as first house in k.p. Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 3:40 PM Dear Dhanabalan,Would you please quote the rules specified in Vol II for finding out whether Lagna is strong or Moon sign is strongRegards,Upadhyaya@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > 2) In volume II of Krishnamoorthy paddhati of sagar publications in 1966, he gave many examples taking moon sign as first house. He also clearly explained how to find out whether lagna is strong or moon sign is strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan, I agree that the conclusion is to use Lagna only and not Moon sign. But I would like to know the rules specified in Vol II to decide whether Lagna is strong or Moon sign is strong. (You can send mail to upadhyaya.p.s in case you do not want to publish the same in this group) Thanks & Regards, Upadhyaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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