Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 sir, the order of strength is conjunction, aspect,star lord and then sign lord- when you start elimination process - you take the help of d/b/a and transiting forces - to pick up the planet that is active at a given time. CaUTION: keep in mind - no planet works in isolation. At any given time the native get a package deal of all planets with a leadership of one / few planets -may be due to d/b/a or transit influence. - Hence your approach should be Holistic - There are only 27 stars, 9 planets, 12 signs, and 12 bhavas - which create innumerable number of permutations and combinations - with which one can prove / disprove anything in astrology - this is leading to hopeless/endless debates - particularly when confusion influenceses. Mathematical precission is essential but not to the extent of eroding predictive skills. which are highly personal and influenced by given time. So make a holistic approach and do not be hurry to conclude / and at the same time do no hesitate to conclude prediction - you should practice to balance this. rao chitturu astrologer - teaching & counselling. --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan 4 step theory: Rahu/Ketu"kpsystem groups" Monday, July 21, 2008, 11:35 AM Dear members, When the aspecting and conjoining planets are prime significators. Rahu has not gone as star for other planets. i.e. Rahu also a prime significator. under these condition, when Rahu as a planet or as sublord, it will signify the planet conjoined first, if no conjoin planet it will signify the aspecting planet, in the absence of conjoin and apecting planet, it will signify the sign occupied and signlord. My question is: a) when there is a cojoin planet, is it necessary to go to the next level, the aspecting planet signification? b) When there is a conjoin/aspecting planet, is it necessary to go to the next level, the house occupied and signlord signification? 2) In the starlevel, what is the ascending order of signification for Rahu/Ketu among the conjoin, aspect, own starlord, house occupied and signlord. As above, if there is a conjoin/aspecting planet, is it necessary to go to the next level, the own starlord and signlord signification. 3) If we consider without eliminating, then Rahu/Ketu will signify all the 12 houses most of the time. How to eliminate to arrive only three significators. 4) I do agree that the order of significator for Rahu/Ketu is not followed in K.P.Readers. But one should follow the order of significators in the 4 step theory example charts sent to the members to confirm the rules under Uttarakalamrita is correct. Regards, R.Dhanabalan Tamilnadu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Dear Rao Chitturu The order of the signification is o.k. My question is: a) When Rahu/Ketu as planet: when there is a cojoin planet, is it necessary to go to the next level, the aspecting planet signification? b) When there is a conjoin/aspecting planet, is it necessary to go to the next level, the house occupied and signlord signification? 2) In the starlevel: The ascending order of signification for Rahu/Ketu is the conjoin, aspect, own starlord, house occupied and signlord. If there is a conjoin/aspecting planet, is it necessary to go to the next level, the own starlord, house occupied and signlord signification. Thank you R.Dhanabalan --- On Wed, 7/23/08, rao chitturu <csr162002 wrote: rao chitturu <csr162002Re: 4 step theory: Rahu/Ketu-need holistic approach Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 1:55 AM sir, the order of strength is conjunction, aspect,star lord and then sign lord- when you start elimination process - you take the help of d/b/a and transiting forces - to pick up the planet that is active at a given time. CaUTION: keep in mind - no planet works in isolation. At any given time the native get a package deal of all planets with a leadership of one / few planets -may be due to d/b/a or transit influence. - Hence your approach should be Holistic - There are only 27 stars, 9 planets, 12 signs, and 12 bhavas - which create innumerable number of permutations and combinations - with which one can prove / disprove anything in astrology - this is leading to hopeless/endless debates - particularly when confusion influenceses. Mathematical precission is essential but not to the extent of eroding predictive skills. which are highly personal and influenced by given time. So make a holistic approach and do not be hurry to conclude / and at the same time do no hesitate to conclude prediction - you should practice to balance this. rao chitturu astrologer - teaching & counselling. --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > 4 step theory: Rahu/Ketu"kpsystem groups" <@gro ups.com>Monday, July 21, 2008, 11:35 AM Dear members, When the aspecting and conjoining planets are prime significators. Rahu has not gone as star for other planets. i.e. Rahu also a prime significator. under these condition, when Rahu as a planet or as sublord, it will signify the planet conjoined first, if no conjoin planet it will signify the aspecting planet, in the absence of conjoin and apecting planet, it will signify the sign occupied and signlord. My question is: a) when there is a cojoin planet, is it necessary to go to the next level, the aspecting planet signification? b) When there is a conjoin/aspecting planet, is it necessary to go to the next level, the house occupied and signlord signification? 2) In the starlevel, what is the ascending order of signification for Rahu/Ketu among the conjoin, aspect, own starlord, house occupied and signlord. As above, if there is a conjoin/aspecting planet, is it necessary to go to the next level, the own starlord and signlord signification. 3) If we consider without eliminating, then Rahu/Ketu will signify all the 12 houses most of the time. How to eliminate to arrive only three significators. 4) I do agree that the order of significator for Rahu/Ketu is not followed in K.P.Readers. But one should follow the order of significators in the 4 step theory example charts sent to the members to confirm the rules under Uttarakalamrita is correct. Regards, R.Dhanabalan Tamilnadu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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