Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 dear dhanabalan, thanks for the encouraging words!!! it is nice to read that you wants to improve 4 step theory.you are welcome to suggest any new rules to be followed. mr.dhanabalan,i want to state that no one is perfect in the world of astrology. KSK has started giving his readings with the base that which lagna is strong? sun-moon or lagna,but after research he declares that only lagna chart to be followed. in case of horary,he was using 1 to 108 nos only. after research he added it to 249. so research is a never ending process. planet's sub-star is taken in 1-2 examples by KSK but it was not followed continuously.when i read the articles " sub-lord speaks " and had a discussion with KMS.these articles made me to think and found out rules and found that there is some cotravercy in rules laid by me and that why i named it as a " 4 step theory " .this theory is nothing but the extension of KP. KSK demised in 1972.if he have longevity for next 10 years.whether he had adhered to all the previous rules? research never ends. thanks -sunil gondhalekar On 7/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: DearKanak Bosmia, I do appreciate Mr.Sunil Gondhalekar's effort for the 4 step theory. I do accept the 4 step theory and in future I want to give prediction based on the 4 step theory. Mr.Sunil has added the conjuction and aspects for the planets and for the cusps, which was omitted by Mr.KMS. He also stated clearly how to take significator for Rahu/Ketu, which was omitted by Mr.KMS. Mr.Sunil has done lot for k.p. and his 4 step theory is an eye opener for k.p. lovers. Since I am more interested in 4 step theory, my comments are only to improve the 4 step theory and not against the 4 step theory. I request all the members to take my comments in the positive sense. Thank you R.Dhanabalan --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia Re: Fw: Re: Fw: 4 step theory : questionsr.dhanabalanDate: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 3:43 AM Dear Dhanabalan ji, My very good friend Tin Win ji started same subject and result is moderatore stop hismail, and after that he stop wirting in group, I can see same end of your. please be carefull, moderatore is not ready to hear anything aginst 4Step. I found that 90% rules of 4 step is from K.Subramaniyams article sublord speak, even he does not mention singla time name of Subramaniyam ji. I am wating for reply on my earlier mail regarding xerox copy. Hve you have read my magazine KPEzine? regards Kanak Bosmia " A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first. " Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Fw: Re: Fw: 4 step theory : questionskanakbosmiaDate: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 8:30 AM --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Re: Fw: 4 step theory : questions " Ramkumar " <ramkumaravm, " kpsystem groups " , sunilalaka Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 2:22 AM Dear Ramkumar, Mr.KSK gave importance to cuspal signlord, cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord. In page 253 of krishnamoorthy paddhati volume II published in 1966, " union: a) if the 7th cusp falls in the star of sun or sub of sun, repulsion-no pleasure........ " In page 300, " According to k.p., a) one should note where exactly the meridian falls. b) the lord of the sign, starlord and sub, the planets very close to the meridian and dasalord in progress will indicate the profession. " In page 252, " According to k.p., if saturn is the star or sub of 7th cusp, husband an aged person..... " In page 254, " characteristic: 7th cusp sign,star and sub indicate character of first partner. 2nd cusp sign, star and sub indicates character of second partner....... " In page 274, " c) planets in the star or sub of lords of houses 2,5,11. d) lords of 2,5,11. " In page 320, " The 10 th house is occpied by venus. Mercury is in the sub of venus. So Mercury is the significator 3rd house is occpied by saturn. Mars alone is in the sub of saturn. So Mars is the significator. Rahu is in Aries, so it represents Mars. Jupiter, Venus and Rahu are in the sub of Rahu. So Jupiter, Venus and Rahu are significators. So the significators that can cause transfer are Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Rahu. " In page 67, " According to k.p., " If lagna and lagna lord are in the star and sub of lords other than 6,8,12, native will live long maintaining good health. " If you compare the above with the k.p.Reader III, you can easily come to the conclusion that the Reader III is misguiding all the k.p.lovers. I have a doubt whether the Readers III, V and VI are actually written by Mr.KSK. I do not rely on the Readers III, V and VI. According to me, Mr.KSK has not taken the sub's star. Sub's star is not in k.p. Probabily the inventor of sub's star is Mr.K.M.Subramaniam after the year 1972. Regards R.Dhanabalan Tamilnadu --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Ramkumar <ramkumaravm wrote: Ramkumar <ramkumaravm Fw: 4 step theory : questionsr.dhanabalanDate: Monday, July 21, 2008, 11:10 AM  Dear Mr.Dhanabalan, Thank you for your deep insight in the subject and comparision of readers. I also was initially confused about this rule " Planets sublord's starlord' significance. But if you see in the horoscope discussed in Horary astrology -reader 6 page 84 it is stated in line 24 'Jupiter in the star of Saturn' where Jupiter is the sub of the Sun -the planet in discussion' Iam totally confused because Late Guruji has also applied this rule in his example. This example horoscope was orginally quoted by our Guruji and not by any one of his students or sons. I request you comments to educate me so that i can be clear in using the sub of a planet. I have a question what is the limitation to use Planet' s sub? and what is the limitation to use Planet's sublord's star lord ? With Regards, Ramkumar - muthuram kumar ramkumar Monday, July 21, 2008 10:05 AM Fw: 4 step theory : questions ----- Forwarded Message ----Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan kpsystem groups Monday, 21 July, 2008 9:16:06 AM 4 step theory : questions Dear members, 1) Mr.KSK has taken the sub as significator in Volume II of Krishnamoorthy Paddhati of Sagar publication in the year 1966. In page 113 " According to Krishnamoorthy paddhati, one can borrow money during the dasa bukthies of a) planets in the star or sub of occupants of 6th house b) occupants of 6th house c) planets in the star or sub of lord of 6th house d) lord of 6th house....... ........ " In page 274 of volume II of sagar publication, the same is repeated for the houses 2,5,11. 2) Most of the contents of K.P.Reader III has been taken from Volume I & II of above sagar publications. The publishers have modified the original content of volume II and published as Reader III. For the same chart, the signlord in volume II is just replaced with sublord in the Reader III. The originality of Mr.KSK has lost. Reader III is not reliable. But volume I & II of sagar publication is reliable. For comparision, I am giving the page numbers of volumeii and Reader III pages in volume II Pages in Reader III 42 53 61 169 64 171 67 175 74 181 98,99 204,205 130 226 155 254 162 261 3)Mr.KSK never ever nowhere asked sub's starlord either for planet or for cusp sublord in the volume I & II of sagar publications. It is stated that Mr.KSK took starlord for sublord with reference to Reader III. Is there any reference in volume I & II of sagar publications for sub's star by Mr.KSK. Regars, R.Dhanabalan Get an email ID as yourname or yourname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > DearKanak Bosmia, > I do appreciate Mr.Sunil Gondhalekar's effort for the 4 step theory. I do accept the 4 step theory and in future I want to give prediction based on the 4 step theory. Mr.Sunil has added the conjuction and aspects for the planets and for the cusps, which was omitted by Mr.KMS. He also stated clearly how to take significator for Rahu/Ketu, which was omitted by Mr.KMS. Mr.Sunil has done lot for k.p. and his 4 step theory is an eye opener for k.p. lovers. Since I am more interested in 4 step theory, my comments are only to improve the 4 step theory and not against the 4 step theory. I request all the members to take my comments in the positive sense. >  > Thank you > R.Dhanabalan >   > > --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > Re: Fw: Re: Fw: 4 step theory : questions > r.dhanabalan > Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 3:43 AM > > dear kanak, as per my knowledge and memory,the moderator has not banned/stopped any one even mr.tinwin from group.some members also requested to mr.tinwin to send his valuable comments. KMS REFERENCE IS EVERYTIME QUOTED IN MY MARATHI LITERATURE. pl.read my " Vivah yoga " the first book on 4 step theory,wherein i quoted every thing. -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan ji, >  > My very good friend Tin Win ji started same subject and result is moderatore stop hismail, and after that he stop wirting in group, I can see same end of your. please be carefull, moderatore is not ready to hear anything aginst 4Step. >  > I found that 90% rules of 4 step is from K.Subramaniyams article sublord speak, even he does not mention singla time name of Subramaniyam ji. >  > I am wating for reply on my earlier mail regarding xerox copy. >  > Hve you have read my magazine KPEzine? >  >  > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > >  > > --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan > Fw: Re: Fw: 4 step theory : questions > kanakbosmia > Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 8:30 AM > > --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan > Re: Fw: 4 step theory : questions > " Ramkumar " <ramkumaravm, " kpsystem groups " , sunilalaka > Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 2:22 AM > Dear Ramkumar, >  > Mr.KSK gave importance to cuspal signlord, cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord. In page 253 of krishnamoorthy paddhati volume II published in 1966, " union: a) if the 7th cusp falls in the star of sun or sub of sun, repulsion-no pleasure........ " >  > In page 300, " According to k.p., a) one should note where exactly the meridian falls. b) the lord of the sign, starlord and sub, the planets very close to the meridian and dasalord in progress will indicate the profession. " >  > In page 252, " According to k.p., if saturn is the star or sub of 7th cusp, husband an aged person..... " >  > In page 254, " characteristic: 7th cusp sign,star and sub indicate character of first partner. 2nd cusp sign, star and sub indicates character of second partner....... " >  > In page 274, " c) planets in the star or sub of lords of houses 2,5,11. > d) lords of 2,5,11. " >  > In page 320, " The 10 th house is occpied by venus. Mercury is in the sub of venus. So Mercury is the significator > 3rd house is occpied by saturn. Mars alone is in the sub of saturn. So Mars is the significator. > Rahu is in Aries, so it represents Mars. Jupiter, Venus and Rahu are in the sub of Rahu. So Jupiter, Venus and Rahu are significators. > So the significators that can cause transfer are Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Rahu. " >  > In page 67, " According to k.p., " If lagna and lagna lord are in the star and sub of lords other than 6,8,12, native will live long maintaining good health. " >  > If you compare the above with the k.p.Reader III, you can easily come to the conclusion that the Reader III is misguiding all the k.p.lovers. >  > I have a doubt whether the Readers III, V and VI are actually written by Mr.KSK. I do not rely on the Readers III, V and VI. >  > According to me, Mr.KSK has not taken the sub's star. Sub's star is not in k.p. > Probabily the inventor of sub's star is Mr.K.M.Subramaniam after the year 1972. >  > Regards > R.Dhanabalan > Tamilnadu > > > --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Ramkumar <ramkumaravm wrote: > > Ramkumar <ramkumaravm > Fw: 4 step theory : questions > r.dhanabalan > Monday, July 21, 2008, 11:10 AM > > >  > #yiv311079316 #yiv1424425415 #yiv58138954 #yiv1476367755 DIV { > MARGIN:0px;} > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan, >  > Thank you for your deep insight in the subject and comparision of readers. I also was initially confused about this rule " Planets sublord's starlord' significance. >  > But if you see in the horoscope discussed in Horary astrology - reader 6 page 84 it is stated in line 24 'Jupiter in the star of Saturn' where Jupiter is the sub of the Sun -the planet in discussion' >  > Iam totally confused because Late Guruji has also applied this rule in his example. >  > This example horoscope was orginally quoted by our Guruji and not by any one of his students or sons. >  > I request you comments to educate me so that i can be clear in using the sub of a planet. >  > I have a question what is the limitation to use Planet' s sub? and what is the limitation to use Planet's sublord's star lord ? >  > With Regards, > Ramkumar > - > muthuram kumar > ramkumar > Monday, July 21, 2008 10:05 AM > Fw: 4 step theory : questions > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan > kpsystem groups > Monday, 21 July, 2008 9:16:06 AM > 4 step theory : questions > > > > Dear members, > 1) Mr.KSK has taken the sub as significator in Volume II of Krishnamoorthy Paddhati of Sagar publication in the year 1966. In page 113 " According to Krishnamoorthy paddhati, one can borrow money during the dasa bukthies of > a) planets in the star or sub of occupants of 6th house > b) occupants of 6th house > c) planets in the star or sub of lord of 6th house > d) lord of 6th house....... ........ " >  > In page 274 of volume II of sagar publication, the same is repeated for the houses 2,5,11. >  > 2) Most of the contents of K.P.Reader III has been taken from Volume I & II of above sagar publications. The publishers have modified the original content of volume II and published as Reader III. For the same chart, the signlord in volume II is just replaced with sublord in the Reader III. The originality of Mr.KSK has lost. Reader III is not reliable. But volume I & II of sagar publication is reliable. For comparision, I am giving the page numbers of volumeii and Reader III > pages in volume II                                Pages in Reader III > 42                                                             53 > 61                                                            169 > 64                                                             171 > 67                                                             175 > 74                                                              181 > 98,99                                                         204,205 > 130                                                            226 > 155                                                            254 > 162                                                            261 >  > 3)Mr.KSK never ever nowhere asked sub's starlord either for planet or for cusp sublord in the volume I & II of sagar publications. It is stated that Mr.KSK took starlord for sublord with reference to Reader III. Is there any reference in volume I & II of sagar publications for sub's star by Mr.KSK. > Regars, > R.Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > Get an email ID as yourname or yourname > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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