Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Pranam to all members of the KP GroupBTRMost of the BT, we come across are incorrect according to the KP theories. If we do not follow the correctness of the BT, all the predictions go wrong, according to my opinion. As a result of this, the native's ambitions and hopes of the life are in danger.In the subject of BTR in KP, we find several rules to follow up for the purpose. Herewith I quote some of them1. Ruling planets method.(Ast. Secrets i - pg 01 & pg 160)2. Birth Lagna cusp Sub Lord, should tell the Birth Star, or the Moon sign directly or in one way or the other. (Ast. Secretrs ii - pg 81)3. The Birth Lagna Sub Lord should tell the Birth ( this rule describes three types of sitting of the Lagna Sub Lord. Pl see Ast. Secretrs ii - pg 81) As a novice to the KP System, I have faced to a question on the BTR, which forward for the attention of the Learned KP Astrologers in the group. Q: Should we observe all the above and any other rules in the KP theories for rectification of BT.?ORIs any one rule enough?ANDWhat is/are the very important and most correct rule/rules to follow?ANDWhat are the modifications done in these rules, by the Group members? ie. The method used is as is given in Astrosecrets & K.P., by the late M.P. Shanmugham.. .and slightly modified by me... L.Y.Rao. This humble solicitation is forwarded to the Learnerd Gurujis for a clear and comprehensive explanation for the sake of educational purpose of the New Comers. OM Tat Sat.Sunaparantha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Namaskar- Rao jiThanks u for your opinion. I did so. I wanted to know only whether I am correct.Ithink, I'll be OK in due course.SunaparanthaYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Cc: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparanthaFriday, July 11, 2008 12:55:29 PMRe: BTR Dear Sunaparantha, It is for you alone to decide,after using ALL known methods,to choose to follow the one that gave you the most accurate results...by trial and error...only... There will be different opinions,as per one's own experiences...over time. No ready-made answers are likely to satisfy you...in practise... L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Thursday, 10 July, 2008 9:40:22 PM BTR Pranam to all members of the KP Group BTR Most of the BT, we come across are incorrect according to the KP theories. If we do not follow the correctness of the BT, all the predictions go wrong, according to my opinion. As a result of this, the native's ambitions and hopes of the life are in danger. In the subject of BTR in KP, we find several rules to follow up for the purpose. Herewith I quote some of them 1. Ruling planets method.(Ast. Secrets i - pg 01 & pg 160) 2. Birth Lagna cusp Sub Lord, should tell the Birth Star, or the Moon sign directly or in one way or the other. (Ast. Secretrs ii - pg 81) 3. The Birth Lagna Sub Lord should tell the Birth ( this rule describes three types of sitting of the Lagna Sub Lord. Pl see Ast. Secretrs ii - pg 81) As a novice to the KP System, I have faced to a question on the BTR, which forward for the attention of the Learned KP Astrologers in the group. Q: Should we observe all the above and any other rules in the KP theories for rectification of BT.? OR Is any one rule enough? AND What is/are the very important and most correct rule/rules to follow? AND What are the modifications done in these rules, by the Group members? ie. The method used is as is given in Astrosecrets & K.P., by the late M.P. Shanmugham.. .and slightly modified by me... L.Y.Rao. This humble solicitation is forwarded to the Learnerd Gurujis for a clear and comprehensive explanation for the sake of educational purpose of the New Comers. OM Tat Sat. Sunaparantha Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Dear Mr/Mrs, Kalyan, There are number of theories of BTR, besides 3 mentioned by you. Similarly there are many practices and opinions of KP astrologers on this subject. Every one claims that the method / Rule he follows is correct and gives successfull results. Therefore there is no single theory which is very important and more correct. The time of 1st breath of a child is the correct Birth Time as per KP. Can any of the existing / practicing BTR rules / methods confirm the corrected Birth Time as the Time of 1st Breath ? How many Natasl charts with Birth Time of 1st cry, KP astrologers have seen in their practice ? Let us not forget / ignore the practical reality. Due to the above problem, KP astrologers resort to Horary astrology. This is practical reality which statement may not be palatable. The subject of BTR is under research study by some of KP astrologers. This is in evolutionary process. It may take time to have perfection in this subject. Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Thu, 10/7/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha BTR Date: Thursday, 10 July, 2008, 9:40 PM Pranam to all members of the KP Group BTR Most of the BT, we come across are incorrect according to the KP theories. If we do not follow the correctness of the BT, all the predictions go wrong, according to my opinion. As a result of this, the native's ambitions and hopes of the life are in danger. In the subject of BTR in KP, we find several rules to follow up for the purpose. Herewith I quote some of them 1. Ruling planets method.(Ast. Secrets i - pg 01 & pg 160) 2. Birth Lagna cusp Sub Lord, should tell the Birth Star, or the Moon sign directly or in one way or the other. (Ast. Secretrs ii - pg 81) 3. The Birth Lagna Sub Lord should tell the Birth ( this rule describes three types of sitting of the Lagna Sub Lord. Pl see Ast. Secretrs ii - pg 81) As a novice to the KP System, I have faced to a question on the BTR, which forward for the attention of the Learned KP Astrologers in the group. Q: Should we observe all the above and any other rules in the KP theories for rectification of BT.? OR Is any one rule enough? AND What is/are the very important and most correct rule/rules to follow? AND What are the modifications done in these rules, by the Group members? ie. The method used is as is given in Astrosecrets & K.P., by the late M.P. Shanmugham.. .and slightly modified by me... L.Y.Rao. This humble solicitation is forwarded to the Learnerd Gurujis for a clear and comprehensive explanation for the sake of educational purpose of the New Comers. OM Tat Sat. Sunaparantha Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Dear Rao garu, Pranam, Can you share the details of the modification done by you to the BTR method given by Late M.P.Shanmughm in the bokk Astrosecrets & KP. This will be very much useful to all the students and working astrologers of the forum. With Regards Nanda RN--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1Re: btr Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 8:39 PM Dear Ramani, I have corrected your TOB using New K.P. Ayanamsa,and Mr.A.R. Raichur's SW... It is exactly 08-11-30 A.M.,IST ...on 15-01-1938.. .at place whose Long/Lat is given. When the sublord and the sub-sub-lord of the Ascendant appear as the Star-lord and Sub-lord of the Moon, respectively. ..confirming it as the exact TOB. Kindly verify by checking dates of the events in your life you mention... And pl. inform,if the TOB was found to match the events in your life... The method used is as is given in Astrosecrets & K.P., by the late M.P. Shanmugham.. .and slightly modified by me... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 8:52:11 AM btr Dear Dr.Luther Rath, I have tried BTR many times & by many examples given in KP articles & get different results. I request you to let me know the exact time of birth as per your method. : sex woman, Date of birth 15-1-1938; Saturday, Lat..10 Deg.43' (N); Long.79 Deg.44' Capr.Lagna Aridra Star. Birth time is given as 8 AM approximately. .Events Marriage on 25-7-1954. Birth of male child on 23-9-1967.Father expired in Octr.1983. Thanks. Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Dear Mr.Nanda, Really,it is a very simple modification indeed...(extension,if you like this as a better term). The late Mr.Shanmugham's dictum is thar if the sublord of the Ascendant is the same as the lord of the star occupied by the Moon,the TOB is correct... I consider that if the sublord and the sub-sublord of the Ascendant apear as the starlord and sublord occupied by the MOON,the TOB given or arrived at by adjustment,is the EXACT TOB...upto the second... that is the only "modification"...but it is good to remember that the method I recommend is valid for birth times suspected to be + or - 30 minutes away from the exact TOB... For unknown TOBs and even DOBs different mehods are prescribed in K.P. which pl. note... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Rabindranath Nanda <nandarn Sent: Saturday, 12 July, 2008 11:50:47 PMRe: btr Dear Rao garu, Pranam, Can you share the details of the modification done by you to the BTR method given by Late M.P.Shanmughm in the bokk Astrosecrets & KP. This will be very much useful to all the students and working astrologers of the forum. With Regards Nanda RN--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: btr@gro ups.comThursday, June 26, 2008, 8:39 PM Dear Ramani, I have corrected your TOB using New K.P. Ayanamsa,and Mr.A.R. Raichur's SW... It is exactly 08-11-30 A.M.,IST ...on 15-01-1938.. .at place whose Long/Lat is given. When the sublord and the sub-sub-lord of the Ascendant appear as the Star-lord and Sub-lord of the Moon, respectively. ..confirming it as the exact TOB. Kindly verify by checking dates of the events in your life you mention... And pl. inform,if the TOB was found to match the events in your life... The method used is as is given in Astrosecrets & K.P., by the late M.P. Shanmugham.. .and slightly modified by me... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 8:52:11 AM btr Dear Dr.Luther Rath, I have tried BTR many times & by many examples given in KP articles & get different results. I request you to let me know the exact time of birth as per your method. : sex woman, Date of birth 15-1-1938; Saturday, Lat..10 Deg.43' (N); Long.79 Deg.44' Capr.Lagna Aridra Star. Birth time is given as 8 AM approximately. .Events Marriage on 25-7-1954. Birth of male child on 23-9-1967.Father expired in Octr.1983. Thanks. Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi Rabindra,I can answer that for you. Read and memorize: 1) KP Readers 1 to 6 and 2) Astrology and secrets (whatever) Volume 1 to 3.Don't look for shortcuts/guidance.Sunil--- On Sat, 7/12/08, Rabindranath Nanda <nandarn wrote:Rabindranath Nanda <nandarnRe: btr Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 11:20 AM Dear Rao garu, Pranam, Can you share the details of the modification done by you to the BTR method given by Late M.P.Shanmughm in the bokk Astrosecrets & KP. This will be very much useful to all the students and working astrologers of the forum. With Regards Nanda RN--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: btr@gro ups.comThursday, June 26, 2008, 8:39 PM Dear Ramani, I have corrected your TOB using New K.P. Ayanamsa,and Mr.A.R. Raichur's SW... It is exactly 08-11-30 A.M.,IST ...on 15-01-1938.. .at place whose Long/Lat is given. When the sublord and the sub-sub-lord of the Ascendant appear as the Star-lord and Sub-lord of the Moon, respectively. ..confirming it as the exact TOB. Kindly verify by checking dates of the events in your life you mention... And pl. inform,if the TOB was found to match the events in your life... The method used is as is given in Astrosecrets & K.P., by the late M.P. Shanmugham.. .and slightly modified by me... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 8:52:11 AM btr Dear Dr.Luther Rath, I have tried BTR many times & by many examples given in KP articles & get different results. I request you to let me know the exact time of birth as per your method. : sex woman, Date of birth 15-1-1938; Saturday, Lat..10 Deg.43' (N); Long.79 Deg.44' Capr.Lagna Aridra Star. Birth time is given as 8 AM approximately. .Events Marriage on 25-7-1954. Birth of male child on 23-9-1967.Father expired in Octr.1983. Thanks. Yrs.sincy, K.S.V.Ramani Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 - Namaskar- Rao ji Thanks u for your opinion. I did so. I wanted to know only whether I am correct.Ithink, I'll be OK in due course. Sunaparantha -- In , Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: > free vedic astrology reports on career, profession, etc free astrology ebooks all you can get for free in below link http://eradini.blogspot.com/ click those links and free vedic astrology for free enjoy. Free music download, free latest hindi, English songs, free mp3 players, free ipods,all songs free downloads Goto http://ipodosphere.blogspot.com/ How to spot virus manually And remove it from your computer http://viruskicker.blogspot.com/ LAST MONTH I WEN TO A WEBSITE CALLED http://ipodosphere.blogspot.com/ cut copy paste the link and type the link in the address bar.press enter. i got free download of music of all hindi,english,bollywood songs. i got free music players from them for free. so i want others to get music players also. goto http://ipodosphere.blogspot.com/ click those links and get free things enjoy > Namaskar- Rao ji > Thanks u for your opinion. I did so. I wanted to know only whether I am correct.Ithink, I'll be OK in due course. > Sunaparantha > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 > > Cc: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha > Friday, July 11, 2008 12:55:29 PM > Re: BTR > > > Dear Sunaparantha, > It is for you alone to decide,after using ALL known methods,to choose to follow the one that gave you the most accurate results...by trial and error...only... > There will be different opinions,as per one's own experiences...over time. > No ready-made answers are likely to satisfy you...in practise... > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha > > Thursday, 10 July, 2008 9:40:22 PM > BTR > > > Pranam to all members of the KP Group > BTR > Most of the BT, we come across are incorrect according to the KP theories. If we do not follow the correctness of the BT, all the predictions go wrong, according to my opinion. As a result of this, the native's ambitions and hopes of the life are in danger. > In the subject of BTR in KP, we find several rules to follow up for the purpose. Herewith I quote some of them > 1. Ruling planets method.(Ast. Secrets i - pg 01 & pg 160) > 2. Birth Lagna cusp Sub Lord, should tell the Birth Star, or the Moon sign directly or in one way or the other. (Ast. Secretrs ii - pg 81) > 3. The Birth Lagna Sub Lord should tell the Birth ( this rule describes three types of sitting of the Lagna Sub Lord. Pl see Ast. Secretrs ii - pg 81) > > As a novice to the KP System, I have faced to a question on the BTR, which forward for the attention of the Learned KP Astrologers in the group. > > Q: Should we observe all the above and any other rules in the KP theories for rectification of BT.? > OR > Is any one rule enough? > AND > What is/are the very important and most correct rule/rules to follow? > AND > What are the modifications done in these rules, by the Group members? > ie. The method used is as is given in Astrosecrets & K.P., by the late M.P. Shanmugham.. .and slightly modified by me... L.Y.Rao. > > > > This humble solicitation is forwarded to the Learnerd Gurujis for a clear and comprehensive explanation for the sake of educational purpose of the New Comers. > > OM Tat Sat. > Sunaparantha > > > > ________________________________ > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Guruji Naidu,Thank U very much for yr attention and clarification on the BTR. I am practising to obtain a correct method, among the KP rules, as advses by the learned gurus.Long LiveSunaparantha(Mr.)K. P. Naidu <konathalan Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:36:25 AMRe: BTR Dear Mr/Mrs, Kalyan, There are number of theories of BTR, besides 3 mentioned by you. Similarly there are many practices and opinions of KP astrologers on this subject. Every one claims that the method / Rule he follows is correct and gives successfull results. Therefore there is no single theory which is very important and more correct. The time of 1st breath of a child is the correct Birth Time as per KP. Can any of the existing / practicing BTR rules / methods confirm the corrected Birth Time as the Time of 1st Breath ? How many Natasl charts with Birth Time of 1st cry, KP astrologers have seen in their practice ? Let us not forget / ignore the practical reality. Due to the above problem, KP astrologers resort to Horary astrology. This is practical reality which statement may not be palatable. The subject of BTR is under research study by some of KP astrologers. This is in evolutionary process. It may take time to have perfection in this subject. Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Thu, 10/7/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > BTR@gro ups.comThursday, 10 July, 2008, 9:40 PM Pranam to all members of the KP Group BTR Most of the BT, we come across are incorrect according to the KP theories. If we do not follow the correctness of the BT, all the predictions go wrong, according to my opinion. As a result of this, the native's ambitions and hopes of the life are in danger. In the subject of BTR in KP, we find several rules to follow up for the purpose. Herewith I quote some of them 1. Ruling planets method.(Ast. Secrets i - pg 01 & pg 160) 2. Birth Lagna cusp Sub Lord, should tell the Birth Star, or the Moon sign directly or in one way or the other. (Ast. Secretrs ii - pg 81) 3. The Birth Lagna Sub Lord should tell the Birth ( this rule describes three types of sitting of the Lagna Sub Lord. Pl see Ast. Secretrs ii - pg 81) As a novice to the KP System, I have faced to a question on the BTR, which forward for the attention of the Learned KP Astrologers in the group. Q: Should we observe all the above and any other rules in the KP theories for rectification of BT.? OR Is any one rule enough? AND What is/are the very important and most correct rule/rules to follow? AND What are the modifications done in these rules, by the Group members? ie. The method used is as is given in Astrosecrets & K.P., by the late M.P. Shanmugham.. .and slightly modified by me... L.Y.Rao. This humble solicitation is forwarded to the Learnerd Gurujis for a clear and comprehensive explanation for the sake of educational purpose of the New Comers. OM Tat Sat. Sunaparantha Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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