Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Dear Shri Raoji, I have a chart here, which has 5 planets in the 10th house alongwith Saturn. I would like to hve your opinion on the professional growth of this person. Presently he is running a export unit and into manufacturing, with a 5 crore plant installed two years back, which still has not attained breakeven. He has about 200 workers whom he has to pay a monthly salary which is eroding his capital and gradually. What would be your take now, since we do not have only one planet here to contend with, rather 5 out of the 9 concentrated in one sign. Otherwise he is the only son, and has enough paternal wealth, to feed him for the rest of his life, but one needs self creation and not to eat upon the inherited wealth. hence this query. Name - Rahul, 29th March 1980 , time 22.04.00,Saharanpur (UP). Ascendant Scorpio 00.48.36 The other KP Seniors too are welcome to answer this. regards, Bhaskar. -- In , rao chitturu <csr162002 wrote: > > G.S.Malhi, > Saturn in 10th - traditional - indicate settlement at the age of 36th year. > Level of settlement depends on the other configuration of the chart - > 1. In one case a veterinary doctor got PH.D in Veterinary scicenses at USA even before his 36th year - but he got saisfactoy job only at 36th year - he is now in 70's. For reasons of privacy I cannot give birth details and other data. > > 2. In many other cases underemployed / unemployed are getting settled at 36th year of age. > These traditional conclusions by classical writers are proved in many cases. Even if you study from KP analysis the results are around 36th year. > Lot of things can be told about Saturn like this. > Comming to the temporary nature of the benefits/difficulties - it is a matter of graha tatwa. Which is same both in traditional / KP system. > General phenamena of graha tatwa - natural malefic planets like Saturn/Rahu/Ketu give the benfits only to robe off at a subsequent opportunity. > Whereas the benefits if given by plaanets like jupiter, Venus are for longer periods. > For malefics the means is not important - the end is important - at any cost they bring benefit / difficulty. > For benefic planets the means is important - not the end - unless the means is justified the end results are ot delivered. > > rao chitturu > Astrologer > Teaching & Cunselling > 9440348175 > > > " G.S.MALHI " gsmtex wrote: > Respected Seniors, > 1-I have query about saturn in 10th house. > Kp tells about fast rise and then deep fall > in ones career. > 2-What other factors effect this and whether > person experieced this effect can rise again > or not.( will get income or job again or not) > Will seniors please shed light on this subject > according to their experiences. > Thanks in advance. > With Regards > G.S.Malhi > Bangalore > > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Hi Ms.Malhi Kindly note that if the planet is placed in MC or any other place has no significance. Pl find out Sat is in whose star and where is it pla ced. Pl find out Sat is in whose sub and where is it placed. Pl also find out the sub of Sat is occuping whose star where is it placed. In addition you ve to note what are the aspects the fructifying planet receives. All these things only will give you result. Not alone the planet placed in a place. Whatever mahaguru said is to be analysed as above. Good Luck tkp ghopal--- On Mon, 6/2/08, G.S.MALHI <gsmtex wrote: G.S.MALHI <gsmtex saturn in 10th house Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 3:20 PM Respected Seniors, 1-I have query about saturn in 10th house. Kp tells about fast rise and then deep fall in ones career. 2-What other factors effect this and whether person experieced this effect can rise again or not.( will get income or job again or not) Will seniors please shed light on this subject according to their experiences. Thanks in advance. With Regards G.S.Malhi Bangalore Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Mr.Ramesh, What is given about 10th Saturn i.e., occupant of 10th - as per traditional theories. If Saturn is 10th cusp sub lord - apply KP theory - Reasons for your friend's movements can only be explained on reading full chart- rao chitturu ramesh tendulkar <ram_t_1968 wrote: Hi What if the Saturn is the 10th Cusp sublord - do you mean it to be the same? (Does it also applies to 2, 4, 6, 8 & 12?) I know a personal case of a friend, who keeps changing jobs and no settlement in a place. A KP Astrologer has told him that he would settle in his Saturn Dasa - make all riches and retire in the end of it. Regards Ramesh http://www.newweb30.com/registration.asp?8729275 rao chitturu <csr162002 > Sent: Tuesday, 3 June, 2008 11:41:24 AMRe: saturn in 10th house G.S.Malhi, Saturn in 10th - traditional - indicate settlement at the age of 36th year. Level of settlement depends on the other configuration of the chart - 1. In one case a veterinary doctor got PH.D in Veterinary scicenses at USA even before his 36th year - but he got saisfactoy job only at 36th year - he is now in 70's. For reasons of privacy I cannot give birth details and other data. 2. In many other cases underemployed / unemployed are getting settled at 36th year of age. These traditional conclusions by classical writers are proved in many cases. Even if you study from KP analysis the results are around 36th year. Lot of things can be told about Saturn like this. Comming to the temporary nature of the benefits/difficulti es - it is a matter of graha tatwa. Which is same both in traditional / KP system. General phenamena of graha tatwa - natural malefic planets like Saturn/Rahu/ Ketu give the benfits only to robe off at a subsequent opportunity. Whereas the benefits if given by plaanets like jupiter, Venus are for longer periods. For malefics the means is not important - the end is important - at any cost they bring benefit / difficulty. For benefic planets the means is important - not the end - unless the means is justified the end results are ot delivered. rao chitturu Astrologer Teaching & Cunselling 9440348175 "G.S.MALHI" <gsmtex (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: Respected Seniors, 1-I have query about saturn in 10th house. Kp tells about fast rise and then deep fall in ones career. 2-What other factors effect this and whether person experieced this effect can rise again or not.( will get income or job again or not) Will seniors please shed light on this subject according to their experiences. Thanks in advance. With Regards G.S.Malhi Bangalore Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 IT IS A VERY NICE EXPLANATION REGARDING THE BEHAVIER OF COSMIC SERVER.EACH TYPE OF CHART THE RESULT WILL BE DIFFERENT.WE NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT SUCH FINDINGS TO IMPROVE OUR KNOWLEDGE. WITH REGARDS.. MR GHOSH. rao chitturu <csr162002 Sent: Friday, 6 June, 2008 4:29:45 AMRe: saturn in 10th house Dear Sir, No conclusion, however well proved in any number of charts is "always true" - every chart is unique by itself- So of the statement of settlement at 36th year if Saturn in 10th. Here again 'settlement' is a comaparative / relative feature compre his time earlier to 36th and thereafter - still it may be proved - Much depends on the configuration of all planets - lagna strength etc.., This is mostly a case suffering for deeds of previous life. i have no time to read individual chart - ( this is not to aoid)One thing in the date given the birth place is 0.31 N - this is an extreme area - Type of Bhava division to be carefully used - Perhaps western system with Uranus , Neptune, Pluto may give better findings - I do not know how this chart was studied - No planet works in isolation - At any given time any native gets a package deal of all planets - may be with a leadership of one / a few planets depending on their D/B/A or transit positions. Nothing is to be a concluded statement and each chart at each time to be examined for proper decoding - Every time you have to log on to cosmic server - Any bugs / viruses may occure. rao chitturu. rao chitturu.NHD <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: Hello, In my experience that Saturn in 10th house gives settlement in 36th year is not always true. Take a case of someone I know. He will be 46 this year and still no settlement of career. In fact he has never been able to have a career inspite of graduating with A average in Masters of History in 1992. Here are his birth details if you are interested in knowing why he always has job problems. He is looking for a job right now once again. Birthdata: June 26, 1962 at 2:45am in Eldoret, Kenya [35'17 E, 0'31 N] regards, ND--- On Wed, 6/4/08, ramesh tendulkar <ram_t_1968 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ramesh tendulkar <ram_t_1968 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: saturn in 10th house@gro ups.comReceived: Wednesday, June 4, 2008, 7:09 AM Hi What if the Saturn is the 10th Cusp sublord - do you mean it to be the same? (Does it also applies to 2, 4, 6, 8 & 12?) I know a personal case of a friend, who keeps changing jobs and no settlement in a place. A KP Astrologer has told him that he would settle in his Saturn Dasa - make all riches and retire in the end of it. Regards Ramesh http://www.newweb30 .com/registratio n.asp?8729275 rao chitturu <csr162002 >@gro ups.comTuesday, 3 June, 2008 11:41:24 AMRe: saturn in 10th house G.S.Malhi, Saturn in 10th - traditional - indicate settlement at the age of 36th year. Level of settlement depends on the other configuration of the chart - 1. In one case a veterinary doctor got PH.D in Veterinary scicenses at USA even before his 36th year - but he got saisfactoy job only at 36th year - he is now in 70's.. For reasons of privacy I cannot give birth details and other data. 2. In many other cases underemployed / unemployed are getting settled at 36th year of age. These traditional conclusions by classical writers are proved in many cases. Even if you study from KP analysis the results are around 36th year. Lot of things can be told about Saturn like this. Comming to the temporary nature of the benefits/difficulti es - it is a matter of graha tatwa. Which is same both in traditional / KP system. General phenamena of graha tatwa - natural malefic planets like Saturn/Rahu/ Ketu give the benfits only to robe off at a subsequent opportunity. Whereas the benefits if given by plaanets like jupiter, Venus are for longer periods. For malefics the means is not important - the end is important - at any cost they bring benefit / difficulty. For benefic planets the means is important - not the end - unless the means is justified the end results are ot delivered. rao chitturu Astrologer Teaching & Cunselling 9440348175 "G.S.MALHI" <gsmtex (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: Respected Seniors, 1-I have query about saturn in 10th house. Kp tells about fast rise and then deep fall in ones career. 2-What other factors effect this and whether person experieced this effect can rise again or not.( will get income or job again or not) Will seniors please shed light on this subject according to their experiences. Thanks in advance. With Regards G.S.Malhi Bangalore Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Respected Members, 1-This particular person is now 47 years old. So settling in 36 years not happened here. 2-This person career graph was climbing fast up to 41 years then lost speech and job. 3-Again got good job in 45th year and lost in 46th year. 4-After losing job got operated for speech problem now speech is better but not normal. 5-This person is highly qualified and foreign trained in technical field. 6-Prof.Krishnamurthy opinion in 5th reader page 123 is like this "reach high position and then fell down to a depth much greater than the height they climb and ultimately become sanyasi as they don't own anything" 7-I want to know this is true when only alone saturn in 10th house or else, as this person has saturn + kethu in 10th house. 8-Details are as following D.O.B 14-9-1961 Birth time-9.10AM,Birth place -longitude-75.42 E Latitude- 31.49 N. I am taking this as study to solve mysteries of life and not short cut in learning. With High Regards G.S.Malhi Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Respected Mr.Malhi, Sir, In my opinion,only in exceptional cases,a single planet happens to be so strong that it brings about the full results on its own singlehandedly.Normally it is the result of influence by a number of planets viz. DBA lords.And this will be true in case of saturn in tenth house too. Again no rule gives cent percent results.So one has to be very cautious and judicious in applying rules. In my horoscope saturn is in tenth house, in addition it is a strong significator of the tenth house.But my career was fairly normal.No ups and downs. No sudden rise or fall. Nevertheless there used to be tremendous tension throughout the period of duty.I entered into service at the age of 21 and retired at 58. Regards, sujatkaram , " G.S.MALHI " <gsmtex wrote: > > Respected Members, > 1-This particular person is now 47 years old. > So settling in 36 years not happened here. > 2-This person career graph was climbing fast up to > 41 years then lost speech and job. > 3-Again got good job in 45th year and lost in > 46th year. > 4-After losing job got operated for speech problem > now speech is better but not normal. > 5-This person is highly qualified and foreign trained > in technical field. > 6-Prof.Krishnamurthy opinion in 5th reader page 123 > is like this " reach high position and then fell down to > a depth much greater than the height they climb > and ultimately become sanyasi as they don't own anything " > 7-I want to know this is true when only alone saturn in 10th house > or else, as this person has saturn + kethu in 10th house. > 8-Details are as following > D.O.B 14-9-1961 > Birth time-9.10AM,Birth place -longitude-75.42 E > Latitude- 31.49 N. > I am taking this as study to solve mysteries of life and not short cut > in learning. > With High Regards > G.S.Malhi > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Shri.Bhaskar, This is a case of "crowding of Planets" - leads to confusion. In KP we go by star lords and sub-lords - in most of planets we get same star lord and sub lords. For this type of charts if we adopt - traditional system with the help of Varga charts upto Shashtiamsa we get good results - Transit is highly essential in these variety. It is not to undermine KP system - But every system has it's own merits / deemrits. Similarly KP system may not be useful for births at extreem latitudes - bhava division gets disturbed. Ay way I have not read the chart in detail. presently Saturn is in Leo - where the crowed of planets are there. Transit Saturn is conjucting natal position of planets - everytime is a sensitive time - for the present native has a challenging task - there are chancses of sucess - It is to be seen how best he can use these chanses. Added to the crowding of planets - there are three planets in retardation -Mars, Jupiter and Saturn - Trouble for this native is mismatching of transit and D/B/A lords - that is the bad luck if he is suffering. Luck of this naive is Jupiter is conjoined with Moon and Lagna lord Mars - he has brought from previous birth lot of luck with a mix of bad luck. Any way individual bhava results are to be carefully examined to pronounce any prediction. For constraint of time we cannot go into details - Still it is a chart for research - but we may not get the real data from time to time. rao chitturu Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Shri Raoji,I have a chart here, which has 5 planets in the 10th house alongwithSaturn. I would like to hve your opinion on the professional growth ofthis person. Presently he is running a export unit and intomanufacturing, with a 5 crore plant installed two years back, whichstill has not attained breakeven. He has about 200 workers whom he hasto pay a monthly salary which is eroding his capital and gradually. Whatwould be your take now, since we do not have only one planet here tocontend with, rather 5 out of the 9 concentrated in one sign. Otherwisehe is the only son, and has enough paternal wealth, to feed him for therest of his life, but one needs self creation and not to eat upon theinherited wealth. hence this query.Name - Rahul, 29th March 1980 , time 22.04.00,Saharanpur (UP). Ascendant Scorpio 00.48.36The other KP Seniors too are welcome to answer this.regards,Bhaskar.-- In , rao chitturu <csr162002 wrote:>> G.S.Malhi,> Saturn in 10th - traditional - indicate settlement at the age of 36thyear.> Level of settlement depends on the other configuration of the chart -> 1. In one case a veterinary doctor got PH.D in Veterinary scicenses atUSA even before his 36th year - but he got saisfactoy job only at 36thyear - he is now in 70's. For reasons of privacy I cannot give birthdetails and other data.>> 2. In many other cases underemployed / unemployed are getting settledat 36th year of age.> These traditional conclusions by classical writers are proved in manycases. Even if you study from KP analysis the results are around 36thyear.> Lot of things can be told about Saturn like this.> Comming to the temporary nature of the benefits/difficulties - it is amatter of graha tatwa. Which is same both in traditional / KP system.> General phenamena of graha tatwa - natural malefic planets likeSaturn/Rahu/Ketu give the benfits only to robe off at a subsequentopportunity.> Whereas the benefits if given by plaanets like jupiter, Venus are forlonger periods.> For malefics the means is not important - the end is important - atany cost they bring benefit / difficulty.> For benefic planets the means is important - not the end - unless themeans is justified the end results are ot delivered.>> rao chitturu> Astrologer> Teaching & Cunselling> 9440348175>>> "G.S.MALHI" gsmtex wrote:> Respected Seniors,> 1-I have query about saturn in 10th house.> Kp tells about fast rise and then deep fall> in ones career.> 2-What other factors effect this and whether> person experieced this effect can rise again> or not.( will get income or job again or not)> Will seniors please shed light on this subject> according to their experiences.> Thanks in advance.> With Regards> G.S.Malhi> Bangalore>>>>> > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Say for example a chart has Sun, Mars, Mer and Ven (crowded) and the 10th sublord is Saturn, with its own starlord as Mars, which sits in the 8th house. How would you look at a job situation? Body/Cusp Nakshatra lord Sub lord Prati-sub Sookshma-sub Praana-sub Deha-sub Su Mo Ve Me Ve Me Ma Ma Ju Sa Ju Sa Me Ra Ju Ju Sa Ve Ve Mo Me Su Ma Me Sa Me Sa Mo Sa Me rao chitturu <csr162002 Sent: Thursday, 12 June, 2008 9:09:18 PMRe: Re: saturn in 10th houseShri.Bhaskar,This is a case of "crowding of Planets" - leads to confusion.In KP we go by star lords and sub-lords - in most of planets we get same star lord and sub lords.For this type of charts if we adopt - traditional system with the help of Varga charts upto Shashtiamsa we get good results - Transit is highly essential in these variety.It is not to undermine KP system - But every system has it's own merits / deemrits.Similarly KP system may not be useful for births at extreem latitudes - bhava division gets disturbed.Ay way I have not read the chart in detail.presently Saturn is in Leo - where the crowed of planets are there. Transit Saturn is conjucting natal position of planets - everytime is a sensitive time - for the present native has a challenging task - there are chancses of sucess - It is to be seen how best he can use these chanses. Added to the crowding of planets - there are three planets in retardation -Mars, Jupiter and Saturn - Trouble for this native is mismatching of transit and D/B/A lords - that is the bad luck if he is suffering.Luck of this naive is Jupiter is conjoined with Moon and Lagna lord Mars - he has brought from previous birth lot of luck with a mix of bad luck.Any way individual bhava results are to be carefully examined to pronounce any prediction.For constraint of time we cannot go into details - Still it is a chart for research - but we may not get the real data from time to time.rao chitturuBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:Dear Shri Raoji,I have a chart here, which has 5 planets in the 10th house alongwithSaturn. I would like to hve your opinion on the professional growth ofthis person. Presently he is running a export unit and intomanufacturing, with a 5 crore plant installed two years back, whichstill has not attained breakeven. He has about 200 workers whom he hasto pay a monthly salary which is eroding his capital and gradually. Whatwould be your take now, since we do not have only one planet here tocontend with, rather 5 out of the 9 concentrated in one sign. Otherwisehe is the only son, and has enough paternal wealth, to feed him for therest of his life, but one needs self creation and not to eat upon theinherited wealth. hence this query.Name - Rahul, 29th March 1980 , time 22.04.00,Saharanpur (UP). Ascendant Scorpio 00.48.36The other KP Seniors too are welcome to answer this.regards,Bhaskar.-- In @gro ups.com, rao chitturu <csr162002@. ..> wrote:>> G.S.Malhi,> Saturn in 10th - traditional - indicate settlement at the age of 36thyear.> Level of settlement depends on the other configuration of the chart -> 1. In one case a veterinary doctor got PH.D in Veterinary scicenses atUSA even before his 36th year - but he got saisfactoy job only at 36thyear - he is now in 70's. For reasons of privacy I cannot give birthdetails and other data.>> 2. In many other cases underemployed / unemployed are getting settledat 36th year of age.> These traditional conclusions by classical writers are proved in manycases. Even if you study from KP analysis the results are around 36thyear.> Lot of things can be told about Saturn like this.> Comming to the temporary nature of the benefits/difficulti es - it is amatter of graha tatwa. Which is same both in traditional / KP system.> General phenamena of graha tatwa - natural malefic planets likeSaturn/Rahu/ Ketu give the benfits only to robe off at a subsequentopportunity.> Whereas the benefits if given by plaanets like jupiter, Venus are forlonger periods.> For malefics the means is not important - the end is important - atany cost they bring benefit / difficulty.> For benefic planets the means is important - not the end - unless themeans is justified the end results are ot delivered.>> rao chitturu> Astrologer> Teaching & Cunselling> 9440348175>>> "G.S.MALHI" gsmtex wrote:> Respected Seniors,> 1-I have query about saturn in 10th house.> Kp tells about fast rise and then deep fall> in ones career.> 2-What other factors effect this and whether> person experieced this effect can rise again> or not.( will get income or job again or not)> Will seniors please shed light on this subject> according to their experiences.> Thanks in advance.> With Regards> G.S.Malhi> Bangalore>>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ---> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.> Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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