Guest guest Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Dear Mr. Manu, The difference in ayanamsa between Lahiri or Chitrapaksha and KP is 5 kalas. The KP ayanamsa are drived from newcomb ayanamsa. A bhava may extend to 2 houses but a rashi is always 30 degrees. thanks, dr.rahul. l , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > > Hi, > > Can you please let me know the difference between lahiri and KP > ayanamsa? Or, the value of the ayanamsa for the reference date. > > Also, regarding bhava calculation does KP treat every bhava to be 30 > degrees or does it depend on the ecleptic? > > Also, I am very new to KP. I have borrowed KP reader from a friend > but find it hard to know the basic steps of prediction. > > Can you kindly guide in this regard. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Om Guru Brihaspathiye NamahahRespected GurujiAs a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem inAYANAMSA.All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degreesand Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 -22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KPwriters are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa.But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year andMonth.Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtainthe Ayanamsa for exact date of birth.This is the formula.(3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/3600)*((Yr-292)+(261/365)+((Mn-1)*30+Dy)/365)Yr = Year of BirthMn= Month of BirthDy= Date of BirthNow there are three methods for Ayanamsa.1. Only for the year2. For the year and month3. For the Year, Month and DateI think these multi functional methods led the beginners totroublesome path in this valuable system.An exampleDOB - 1976.09.27TOB - 5.20pmPOB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00)The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=MarsAs (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=KethuNow, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in twomethods.When make any prediction to the native, they also will be differentresults.I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards.The correct method may help us to pass the pass.Good LuckNamarathnaA Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Dear Sunaparanatha, Progress is characterised the the New always replacing the Old... Your confusion is self-made...! Why continue using both the Old and the New...reject the Old in favour of the New... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Thursday, 8 May, 2008 3:17:01 PM KP Ayanamsa Om Guru Brihaspathiye NamahahRespected GurujiAs a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem inAYANAMSA.All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degreesand Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 -22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KPwriters are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa.But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year andMonth.Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtainthe Ayanamsa for exact date of birth.This is the formula.(3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/ 3600)*((Yr- 292)+(261/ 365)+((Mn- 1)*30+Dy)/365)Yr = Year of BirthMn= Month of BirthDy= Date of BirthNow there are three methods for Ayanamsa.1. Only for the year2. For the year and month3. For the Year, Month and DateI think these multi functional methods led the beginners totroublesome path in this valuable system.An exampleDOB - 1976.09.27TOB - 5.20pmPOB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00)The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=MarsAs (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=KethuNow, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in twomethods.When make any prediction to the native, they also will be differentresults.I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards.The correct method may help us to pass the pass.Good LuckNamarathnaA Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Namarthna, It is a eternal question that remains unsolved. CR Bhatt in Preface to Nakshatra Chintamni says " The sdience of astrology is best learnt by experience and observations". Current undestanding is calculations with any software yields similar cusp calculations and planetary position for a chosen Ayanamsa.Use of UTOH( universal table of houses ) and Raphels table yield different cusp calculation. Apart from selection of Ayanamsa in Birth chart question of "Astrological birth time" determination demands careful attention. Their is no royal road to success. Therefore, Choose one Value of Ayanamsa and one method of RBT in learniing study before you choose to experiment with other method/choices. Hope this helps. PS: You posted calculations of your SON, i am curious to know How you worked out.It was with a software , or UTOH or Raphels. with regards. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS (:http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Sunaparantha Kalyan Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:17 PM KP Ayanamsa Om Guru Brihaspathiye NamahahRespected GurujiAs a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem inAYANAMSA.All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degreesand Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 -22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KPwriters are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa.But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year andMonth.Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtainthe Ayanamsa for exact date of birth.This is the formula.(3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/3600)*((Yr-292)+(261/365)+((Mn-1)*30+Dy)/365)Yr = Year of BirthMn= Month of BirthDy= Date of BirthNow there are three methods for Ayanamsa.1. Only for the year2. For the year and month3. For the Year, Month and DateI think these multi functional methods led the beginners totroublesome path in this valuable system.An exampleDOB - 1976.09.27TOB - 5.20pmPOB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00)The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=MarsAs (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=KethuNow, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in twomethods.When make any prediction to the native, they also will be differentresults.I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards.The correct method may help us to pass the pass.Good LuckNamarathnaA Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Dear Sunaparantha Kalyanthe formua for the New kp ayan is rem K.P.ayanmsa rem changed based on article by PROF Balachandran (x4=year,x5, month, x6 date) PY=X4-1900 AYAN= 22+ (1335+PY*50.2388475)/3600+PY*PY*.000111/3600 AYAN=AYAN+(((X5-1)+X6/30)*50.2388475/12)/3600 X7=INT(AYAN):X8=(AYAN-X7)*60:X8=fix(X8+.5) X7=INT(AYAN):TX8=(AYAN-X7)*60:X8=FIX(TX8) TX9=(TX8-X8)*60:X9S=FIX(TX9+.5) END Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Om Guru Brihaspathiye NamahahRespected GurujiAs a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem inAYANAMSA.All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degreesand Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 -22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KPwriters are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa.But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year andMonth.Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtainthe Ayanamsa for exact date of birth.This is the formula.(3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/3600)*((Yr-292)+(261/365)+((Mn-1)*30+Dy)/365)Yr = Year of BirthMn= Month of BirthDy= Date of BirthNow there are three methods for Ayanamsa.1. Only for the year2. For the year and month3. For the Year, Month and DateI think these multi functional methods led the beginners totroublesome path in this valuable system.An exampleDOB - 1976.09.27TOB - 5.20pmPOB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00)The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=MarsAs (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=KethuNow, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in twomethods.When make any prediction to the native, they also will be differentresults.I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards.The correct method may help us to pass the pass.Good LuckNamarathnaA Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. raichur anant mumbai Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 - Dear Sir, Can you illustrate the application of formulae? with regards. swami_rcs -- In , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Sunaparantha Kalyan > > the formua for the New kp ayan is > > rem K.P.ayanmsa > rem changed based on article by PROF Balachandran > (x4=year,x5, month, x6 date) > PY=X4-1900 > AYAN= 22+ (1335+PY*50.2388475)/3600+PY*PY*.000111/3600 > AYAN=AYAN+(((X5-1)+X6/30)*50.2388475/12)/3600 > X7=INT(AYAN):X8=(AYAN-X7)*60:X8=fix(X8+.5) > X7=INT(AYAN):TX8=(AYAN-X7)*60:X8=FIX(TX8) > TX9=(TX8-X8)*60:X9S=FIX(TX9+.5) > END > > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Om Guru Brihaspathiye Namahah > Respected Guruji > > As a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem in > AYANAMSA. > All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degrees > and Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 - > 22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KP > writers are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa. > But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year and > Month. > Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtain > the Ayanamsa for exact date of birth. > This is the formula. > (3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/3600)*((Yr-292)+(261/365)+((Mn-1) > *30+Dy)/365) > Yr = Year of Birth > Mn= Month of Birth > Dy= Date of Birth > Now there are three methods for Ayanamsa. > 1. Only for the year > 2. For the year and month > 3. For the Year, Month and Date > > I think these multi functional methods led the beginners to > troublesome path in this valuable system. > > An example > DOB - 1976.09.27 > TOB - 5.20pm > POB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54 > > As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00) > The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05 > and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=Mars > > As (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16 > The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49 > and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=Kethu > > Now, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in two > methods. > > When make any prediction to the native, they also will be different > results. > > I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards. > The correct method may help us to pass the pass. > > Good Luck > Namarathna > A Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > raichur anant mumbai > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Srivat savaEvery thing is clear in the formula. Insert valuea of x4,year in full, x5 the month, and x6 date , your answer will be the ayanamsa for that day. Check with the file section, where a table is given."R.C.Srivastava" <swami wrote: - Dear Sir, Can you illustrate the application of formulae? with regards. swami_rcs -- In , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Sunaparantha Kalyan > > the formua for the New kp ayan is > > rem K.P.ayanmsa > rem changed based on article by PROF Balachandran > (x4=year,x5, month, x6 date) > PY=X4-1900 > AYAN= 22+ (1335+PY*50.2388475)/3600+PY*PY*.000111/3600 > AYAN=AYAN+(((X5-1)+X6/30)*50.2388475/12)/3600 > X7=INT(AYAN):X8=(AYAN-X7)*60:X8=fix(X8+.5) > X7=INT(AYAN):TX8=(AYAN-X7)*60:X8=FIX(TX8) > TX9=(TX8-X8)*60:X9S=FIX(TX9+.5) > END > > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Om Guru Brihaspathiye Namahah > Respected Guruji > > As a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem in > AYANAMSA. > All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degrees > and Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 - > 22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KP > writers are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa. > But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year and > Month. > Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtain > the Ayanamsa for exact date of birth. > This is the formula. > (3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/3600)*((Yr-292)+(261/365)+((Mn-1) > *30+Dy)/365) > Yr = Year of Birth > Mn= Month of Birth > Dy= Date of Birth > Now there are three methods for Ayanamsa. > 1. Only for the year > 2. For the year and month > 3. For the Year, Month and Date > > I think these multi functional methods led the beginners to > troublesome path in this valuable system. > > An example > DOB - 1976.09.27 > TOB - 5.20pm > POB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54 > > As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00) > The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05 > and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=Mars > > As (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16 > The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49 > and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=Kethu > > Now, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in two > methods. > > When make any prediction to the native, they also will be different > results. > > I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards. > The correct method may help us to pass the pass. > > Good Luck > Namarathna > A Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > raichur anant mumbai > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > raichur anant mumbai Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 DEAR R.C.SRIVASTAVAATTACHED AN EXECUTIVE FILE WHICH GIVE THE AYANAMSA AS PER THE FORMULA ONCE YOU ENTER THE Year,Month, and Date in numerals, seperated by a (,) comma only. Hope this will be helpfulRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Srivat savaEvery thing is clear in the formula. Insert valuea of x4,year in full, x5 the month, and x6 date , your answer will be the ayanamsa for that day. Check with the file section, where a table is given."R.C.Srivastava" <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: - Dear Sir, Can you illustrate the application of formulae? with regards. swami_rcs -- In , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Sunaparantha Kalyan > > the formua for the New kp ayan is > > rem K.P.ayanmsa > rem changed based on article by PROF Balachandran > (x4=year,x5, month, x6 date) > PY=X4-1900 > AYAN= 22+ (1335+PY*50.2388475)/3600+PY*PY*.000111/3600 > AYAN=AYAN+(((X5-1)+X6/30)*50.2388475/12)/3600 > X7=INT(AYAN):X8=(AYAN-X7)*60:X8=fix(X8+.5) > X7=INT(AYAN):TX8=(AYAN-X7)*60:X8=FIX(TX8) > TX9=(TX8-X8)*60:X9S=FIX(TX9+.5) > END > > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Om Guru Brihaspathiye Namahah > Respected Guruji > > As a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem in > AYANAMSA. > All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degrees > and Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 - > 22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KP > writers are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa. > But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year and > Month. > Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtain > the Ayanamsa for exact date of birth. > This is the formula. > (3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/3600)*((Yr-292)+(261/365)+((Mn-1) > *30+Dy)/365) > Yr = Year of Birth > Mn= Month of Birth > Dy= Date of Birth > Now there are three methods for Ayanamsa. > 1. Only for the year > 2. For the year and month > 3. For the Year, Month and Date > > I think these multi functional methods led the beginners to > troublesome path in this valuable system. > > An example > DOB - 1976.09.27 > TOB - 5.20pm > POB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54 > > As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00) > The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05 > and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=Mars > > As (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16 > The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49 > and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=Kethu > > Now, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in two > methods. > > When make any prediction to the native, they also will be different > results. > > I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards. > The correct method may help us to pass the pass. > > Good Luck > Namarathna > A Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > raichur anant mumbai > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > raichur anant mumbai Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. raichur anant mumbai Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Dear Mr.L.Y.RAO What is the justification for using new ayanamsa when the late Sh.KSK was successfuly using the old ayanamsa.Has the new ayanamsa been conclusively proved to be more accurate. Regards A.K.SEHGAL--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1Re: KP Ayanamsa Date: Friday, 9 May, 2008, 11:12 AM Dear Sunaparanatha, Progress is characterised the the New always replacing the Old... Your confusion is self-made... ! Why continue using both the Old and the New...reject the Old in favour of the New... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comThursday, 8 May, 2008 3:17:01 PM KP Ayanamsa Om Guru Brihaspathiye NamahahRespected GurujiAs a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem inAYANAMSA.All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degreesand Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 -22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KPwriters are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa.But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year andMonth.Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtainthe Ayanamsa for exact date of birth.This is the formula.(3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/ 3600)*((Yr- 292)+(261/ 365)+((Mn- 1)*30+Dy)/365)Yr = Year of BirthMn= Month of BirthDy= Date of BirthNow there are three methods for Ayanamsa.1. Only for the year2. For the year and month3. For the Year, Month and DateI think these multi functional methods led the beginners totroublesome path in this valuable system.An exampleDOB - 1976.09.27TOB - 5.20pmPOB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00)The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=MarsAs (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=KethuNow, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in twomethods.When make any prediction to the native, they also will be differentresults.I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards.The correct method may help us to pass the pass.Good LuckNamarathnaA Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 To all KP Members,I also agreed with the ideas of Mr. Ashok, because no body has given a clear reply to my question, but some have posted the Fomula of new Ayanamsa.Again, I wish to ask, what will happen to the prediction that have given by an astrologer according to the OLD Ayanamsa, while you can see some differences between these OLD and NEWE Ayanamsa.Further I kindly request to any learnerd member to explin the application of new Ayanamsa, by taking a DOB & TOB as an example. I honestly say that I cannot understand the formula.OM Tat SatSunaparantha--- On Thu, 5/15/08, ashok sehgal <aks071945 wrote:ashok sehgal <aks071945Re: KP AyanamsaTo: Date: Thursday, May 15, 2008, 6:42 AM Dear Mr.L.Y.RAO What is the justification for using new ayanamsa when the late Sh.KSK was successfuly using the old ayanamsa.Has the new ayanamsa been conclusively proved to be more accurate. Regards A.K.SEHGAL--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP Ayanamsa@gro ups.comFriday, 9 May, 2008, 11:12 AM Dear Sunaparanatha, Progress is characterised the the New always replacing the Old... Your confusion is self-made... ! Why continue using both the Old and the New...reject the Old in favour of the New... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comThursday, 8 May, 2008 3:17:01 PM KP Ayanamsa Om Guru Brihaspathiye NamahahRespected GurujiAs a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem inAYANAMSA.All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degreesand Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 -22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KPwriters are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa.But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year andMonth.Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtainthe Ayanamsa for exact date of birth.This is the formula.(3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/ 3600)*((Yr- 292)+(261/ 365)+((Mn- 1)*30+Dy)/365)Yr = Year of BirthMn= Month of BirthDy= Date of BirthNow there are three methods for Ayanamsa.1. Only for the year2. For the year and month3. For the Year, Month and DateI think these multi functional methods led the beginners totroublesome path in this valuable system.An exampleDOB - 1976.09.27TOB - 5.20pmPOB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00)The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=MarsAs (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=KethuNow, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in twomethods.When make any prediction to the native, they also will be differentresults.I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards.The correct method may help us to pass the pass.Good LuckNamarathnaA Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Dear Sunapharantha.You cast a chart with so called old ayanamsa. You cast the same chart using the neww ayanmsa, using FREEHOR.EXE which you can find in the file section of the group. Find out what are the differences if any in SUB_LORDS. and you will find the differereces if any in the prediction, if anySunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: To all KP Members,I also agreed with the ideas of Mr. Ashok, because no body has given a clear reply to my question, but some have posted the Fomula of new Ayanamsa.Again, I wish to ask, what will happen to the prediction that have given by an astrologer according to the OLD Ayanamsa, while you can see some differences between these OLD and NEWE Ayanamsa.Further I kindly request to any learnerd member to explin the application of new Ayanamsa, by taking a DOB & TOB as an example. I honestly say that I cannot understand the formula.OM Tat SatSunaparantha--- On Thu, 5/15/08, ashok sehgal <aks071945 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:ashok sehgal <aks071945 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP Ayanamsa Date: Thursday, May 15, 2008, 6:42 AM Dear Mr.L.Y.RAO What is the justification for using new ayanamsa when the late Sh.KSK was successfuly using the old ayanamsa.Has the new ayanamsa been conclusively proved to be more accurate. Regards A.K.SEHGAL--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP Ayanamsa@gro ups.comFriday, 9 May, 2008, 11:12 AM Dear Sunaparanatha, Progress is characterised the the New always replacing the Old... Your confusion is self-made... ! Why continue using both the Old and the New...reject the Old in favour of the New... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comThursday, 8 May, 2008 3:17:01 PM KP Ayanamsa Om Guru Brihaspathiye NamahahRespected GurujiAs a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem inAYANAMSA.All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degreesand Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 -22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KPwriters are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa.But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year andMonth.Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtainthe Ayanamsa for exact date of birth.This is the formula.(3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/ 3600)*((Yr- 292)+(261/ 365)+((Mn- 1)*30+Dy)/365)Yr = Year of BirthMn= Month of BirthDy= Date of BirthNow there are three methods for Ayanamsa.1. Only for the year2. For the year and month3. For the Year, Month and DateI think these multi functional methods led the beginners totroublesome path in this valuable system.An exampleDOB - 1976.09.27TOB - 5.20pmPOB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00)The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=MarsAs (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=KethuNow, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in twomethods.When make any prediction to the native, they also will be differentresults.I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards.The correct method may help us to pass the pass.Good LuckNamarathnaA Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. raichur anant mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Dear Raichur,Thanks for your comments.First of all can you kindly show me the application of New Formula. That is a fuzzle for me.The first two lines of formula are OK. But what are X7, X8 ,TX8 & TX9? Pl. do it with an example,as I wrote early.Om Tat SatSunaparanthaRaichur-a-r <raichurar Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:10:51 AMRe: KP Ayanamsa Dear Sunapharantha.You cast a chart with so called old ayanamsa. You cast the same chart using the neww ayanmsa, using FREEHOR.EXE which you can find in the file section of the group. Find out what are the differences if any in SUB_LORDS. and you will find the differereces if any in the prediction, if anySunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: To all KP Members,I also agreed with the ideas of Mr. Ashok, because no body has given a clear reply to my question, but some have posted the Fomula of new Ayanamsa.Again, I wish to ask, what will happen to the prediction that have given by an astrologer according to the OLD Ayanamsa, while you can see some differences between these OLD and NEWE Ayanamsa.Further I kindly request to any learnerd member to explin the application of new Ayanamsa, by taking a DOB & TOB as an example. I honestly say that I cannot understand the formula.OM Tat SatSunaparantha--- On Thu, 5/15/08, ashok sehgal <aks071945 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:ashok sehgal <aks071945 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP Ayanamsa@gro ups.comThursday, May 15, 2008, 6:42 AM Dear Mr.L.Y.RAO What is the justification for using new ayanamsa when the late Sh.KSK was successfuly using the old ayanamsa.Has the new ayanamsa been conclusively proved to be more accurate. Regards A.K.SEHGAL--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP Ayanamsa@gro ups.comFriday, 9 May, 2008, 11:12 AM Dear Sunaparanatha, Progress is characterised the the New always replacing the Old... Your confusion is self-made... ! Why continue using both the Old and the New...reject the Old in favour of the New... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comThursday, 8 May, 2008 3:17:01 PM KP Ayanamsa Om Guru Brihaspathiye NamahahRespected GurujiAs a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem inAYANAMSA.All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degreesand Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 -22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KPwriters are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa.But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year andMonth.Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtainthe Ayanamsa for exact date of birth.This is the formula.(3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/ 3600)*((Yr- 292)+(261/ 365)+((Mn- 1)*30+Dy)/365)Yr = Year of BirthMn= Month of BirthDy= Date of BirthNow there are three methods for Ayanamsa.1. Only for the year2. For the year and month3. For the Year, Month and DateI think these multi functional methods led the beginners totroublesome path in this valuable system.An exampleDOB - 1976.09.27TOB - 5.20pmPOB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00)The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=MarsAs (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=KethuNow, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in twomethods.When make any prediction to the native, they also will be differentresults.I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards.The correct method may help us to pass the pass.Good LuckNamarathnaA Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. raichur anant mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Dear Kalyan, Are you a sw engineer ? Probably notforget the last 2 lines. They are to convert the answer of ayanamsa, which s in Deg and decimals. to Deg, Min, Sec for using in the SWSunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Dear Raichur,Thanks for your comments.First of all can you kindly show me the application of New Formula. That is a fuzzle for me.The first two lines of formula are OK. But what are X7, X8 ,TX8 & TX9? Pl. do it with an example,as I wrote early.Om Tat SatSunaparanthaRaichur-a-r <raichurar > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:10:51 AMRe: KP Ayanamsa Dear Sunapharantha.You cast a chart with so called old ayanamsa. You cast the same chart using the neww ayanmsa, using FREEHOR.EXE which you can find in the file section of the group. Find out what are the differences if any in SUB_LORDS. and you will find the differereces if any in the prediction, if anySunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: To all KP Members,I also agreed with the ideas of Mr. Ashok, because no body has given a clear reply to my question, but some have posted the Fomula of new Ayanamsa.Again, I wish to ask, what will happen to the prediction that have given by an astrologer according to the OLD Ayanamsa, while you can see some differences between these OLD and NEWE Ayanamsa.Further I kindly request to any learnerd member to explin the application of new Ayanamsa, by taking a DOB & TOB as an example. I honestly say that I cannot understand the formula.OM Tat SatSunaparantha--- On Thu, 5/15/08, ashok sehgal <aks071945 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:ashok sehgal <aks071945 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP Ayanamsa@gro ups.comThursday, May 15, 2008, 6:42 AM Dear Mr.L.Y.RAO What is the justification for using new ayanamsa when the late Sh.KSK was successfuly using the old ayanamsa.Has the new ayanamsa been conclusively proved to be more accurate. Regards A.K.SEHGAL--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP Ayanamsa@gro ups.comFriday, 9 May, 2008, 11:12 AM Dear Sunaparanatha, Progress is characterised the the New always replacing the Old... Your confusion is self-made... ! Why continue using both the Old and the New...reject the Old in favour of the New... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comThursday, 8 May, 2008 3:17:01 PM KP Ayanamsa Om Guru Brihaspathiye NamahahRespected GurujiAs a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem inAYANAMSA.All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degreesand Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 -22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KPwriters are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa.But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year andMonth.Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtainthe Ayanamsa for exact date of birth.This is the formula.(3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/ 3600)*((Yr- 292)+(261/ 365)+((Mn- 1)*30+Dy)/365)Yr = Year of BirthMn= Month of BirthDy= Date of BirthNow there are three methods for Ayanamsa.1. Only for the year2. For the year and month3. For the Year, Month and DateI think these multi functional methods led the beginners totroublesome path in this valuable system.An exampleDOB - 1976.09.27TOB - 5.20pmPOB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00)The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=MarsAs (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=KethuNow, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in twomethods.When make any prediction to the native, they also will be differentresults.I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards.The correct method may help us to pass the pass.Good LuckNamarathnaA Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. raichur anant mumbai raichur anant mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Dear Mr.Raichur,U are correct. I am neither a SW engineer nor class one astrologer and abeginner of KP. That is why I questioned on the application of formula.Now i can understand.ThanksSunaparanthaRaichur-a-r <raichurar Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:32:04 AMRe: KP Ayanamsa Dear Kalyan, Are you a sw engineer ? Probably notforget the last 2 lines. They are to convert the answer of ayanamsa, which s in Deg and decimals. to Deg, Min, Sec for using in the SWSunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Raichur,Thanks for your comments.First of all can you kindly show me the application of New Formula. That is a fuzzle for me.The first two lines of formula are OK. But what are X7, X8 ,TX8 & TX9? Pl. do it with an example,as I wrote early.Om Tat SatSunaparanthaRaichur-a-r <raichurar >@gro ups.comTuesday, May 20, 2008 2:10:51 AMRe: KP Ayanamsa Dear Sunapharantha.You cast a chart with so called old ayanamsa. You cast the same chart using the neww ayanmsa, using FREEHOR.EXE which you can find in the file section of the group. Find out what are the differences if any in SUB_LORDS. and you will find the differereces if any in the prediction, if anySunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: To all KP Members,I also agreed with the ideas of Mr. Ashok, because no body has given a clear reply to my question, but some have posted the Fomula of new Ayanamsa.Again, I wish to ask, what will happen to the prediction that have given by an astrologer according to the OLD Ayanamsa, while you can see some differences between these OLD and NEWE Ayanamsa.Further I kindly request to any learnerd member to explin the application of new Ayanamsa, by taking a DOB & TOB as an example. I honestly say that I cannot understand the formula.OM Tat SatSunaparantha--- On Thu, 5/15/08, ashok sehgal <aks071945 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:ashok sehgal <aks071945 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP Ayanamsa@gro ups.comThursday, May 15, 2008, 6:42 AM Dear Mr.L.Y.RAO What is the justification for using new ayanamsa when the late Sh.KSK was successfuly using the old ayanamsa.Has the new ayanamsa been conclusively proved to be more accurate. Regards A.K.SEHGAL--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: KP Ayanamsa@gro ups.comFriday, 9 May, 2008, 11:12 AM Dear Sunaparanatha, Progress is characterised the the New always replacing the Old... Your confusion is self-made... ! Why continue using both the Old and the New...reject the Old in favour of the New... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comThursday, 8 May, 2008 3:17:01 PMSubject: KP Ayanamsa Om Guru Brihaspathiye NamahahRespected GurujiAs a new comer to the KP System, I have come across a problem inAYANAMSA.All Ephemeris of KP, clearly indicated the Ayanamsa in (1) Degreesand Minutes only, for the calculation of Bhawa Sputa. ie. 1900 -22.22.00, 1976 -23.25.00 and so on. I have seen most of the KPwriters are also using this KP table of Ayanamsa.But here in Sri Lanka, some are use a formula for the (2) Year andMonth.Recently I was informed by a KP Astrologer, a new formula to obtainthe Ayanamsa for exact date of birth.This is the formula.(3) KP Ayanamsa= (50.2388475/ 3600)*((Yr- 292)+(261/ 365)+((Mn- 1)*30+Dy)/365)Yr = Year of BirthMn= Month of BirthDy= Date of BirthNow there are three methods for Ayanamsa.1. Only for the year2. For the year and month3. For the Year, Month and DateI think these multi functional methods led the beginners totroublesome path in this valuable system.An exampleDOB - 1976.09.27TOB - 5.20pmPOB - Panadura, Sri Lanka Lat. 6.39 Long.79.54As (1) above - (Using Mostly used Ayanamsa for 1976 - 23.25.00)The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 003.06.05and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Sun, SSL=MarsAs (3) above - Using new formula to the exact date = 23.31.16The 10th Bhawa falls ARIES 002.59.49and SgL=Mars, StL=Kethu, SbL=Ven, SSL=KethuNow, see the highlighted planets are differs from each other in twomethods.When make any prediction to the native, they also will be differentresults.I wish to know learned Guruji's opinion in this regards.The correct method may help us to pass the pass.Good LuckNamarathnaA Beginner of KP from Sri Lanka Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. raichur anant mumbai raichur anant mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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