Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Dear Lajmi ji,I shall be grateful if you can verify this time of birth for me. I checked through Dr. Andrew Dutta system and I got 11.42 p.m. using Jyotishya Deepika. Need yr confirmation please.DOB: 14th August 1999TOB: Between 1130 & 1200 hours (as given by her mother)POB: 28:58:59:26 N 77:42:28:26 E (exact co-ordinates)RegardsSunil Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Sunil, Till Lajmi ji confirms ,Correct Birth time works out 11:21:23 using KP ayanamsa NEW. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Sunil Sharma Cc: lyrastro1 Monday, April 28, 2008 8:19 PM BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,I shall be grateful if you can verify this time of birth for me. I checked through Dr. Andrew Dutta system and I got 11.42 p.m. using Jyotishya Deepika. Need yr confirmation please.DOB: 14th August 1999TOB: Between 1130 & 1200 hours (as given by her mother)POB: 28:58:59:26 N 77:42:28:26 E (exact co-ordinates)RegardsSunil Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Dear Swamiji, The TOB as calculated by you,is very correct,as per K.P.(Shanmugham's method), It works out to 11-21-23 P.M. IST.(New K.P.Ayanamsa used). Wishing you the very best... L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! swami <swami Sent: Tuesday, 29 April, 2008 12:23:23 AMRe: BT Rectification || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear Sunil, Till Lajmi ji confirms ,Correct Birth time works out 11:21:23 using KP ayanamsa NEW. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Sunil Sharma @gro ups.com Cc: lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in Monday, April 28, 2008 8:19 PM BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,I shall be grateful if you can verify this time of birth for me. I checked through Dr. Andrew Dutta system and I got 11.42 p.m. using Jyotishya Deepika. Need yr confirmation please.DOB: 14th August 1999TOB: Between 1130 & 1200 hours (as given by her mother)POB: 28:58:59:26 N 77:42:28:26 E (exact co-ordinates)RegardsSunil Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Dear Sandeep, First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham's method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... The method is simple,cast the K.P. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g., if a consultant saus "I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7.00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... Wishing you the very best, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! . sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21 Sent: Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM Re: BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Hello sir I am not very experienced so I may be wrong and don't want to challange anybody. I am trying this method in all the cases. When birth time is not sure, I have to believe this but then this formula should be applicable to all the cases, that moon star lord and sublord should appear as lagna sub and sub sub. In cases where we are sure about the time of birth, in that case u can doubt and correct the time by 1-2 mt here or there thinking little watch difference (even in correct watch too) and in that case this formula doesnt work. Because to change any sublord to match it with moon star lord, we have to move a lot. Yes u should get some direct of indirect relation between moon star and sub lords with lagna sub and sub sub. This is my experience though little. Along with this u have to see relation of 1st corrected cusp with 9th cusp and talling with few (2-3) imp incidences in life (not only one incidence) Regards Dr Sheetal On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Sandeep, First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham's method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... The method is simple,cast the K.P. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g., if a consultant saus " I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7.00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... Wishing you the very best, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! . sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21 Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM Re: BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dear Lajmi ji,Many thanks for your kind explanation. I will definitely try it out.Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Sandeep, >                      First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham's method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only  + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... >                      Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... >                       I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... >                      The method is simple,cast the K.P. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g., if a consultant saus " I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7.00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : >                      i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. >                     ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... >                    Wishing you the very best, >                      L.Y.Rao. >                                          GOOD LUCK ! >  >  . > > > sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21 > > Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM > Re: BT Rectification > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me? > > Regards, > > Sandeep > > ________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Dear Mr. Rao. Thank you for providing such a clear summary of the Honourable Mr. Shanmugan method of BTR. Unfortunately I do not have on hand Mr. Shanmugan's book(s) in which he discusses this method. I do so wish to believe that should a simple verification method is reliable, either as a means of raising a red flag about the possible unreliability of someone's birth time, or as a reliable method of BTR in some circumstances. Has Mr. Shanmugan or anyone else provided supporting evidence, or statistics, for the general reliability of this method? I suppose one could crawl through the different types of charts in the " Astrodatabank " files and verify birth time checking methods for the various birth charts on file, and correlate the results with the various categories of charts. With best wishes, Gandalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 dear Sir, It looks very interesting I have a question for you.My date of birth is 01/02/1950 at the time of sunset as told by my mother.we have made chart taking the time 1758 PM.is it possible for you to correct my birth time. The details are as follow: DOB 01/02/50 POB Ganghati,WB near by city Basirhat Lat 22 40 long 88 52 (12 mile west) TOB Aprox sunset 1758 taken as reference. Few important event in life.25/06/69 joined navy anf left native place. 10/08/76 got marraid 04/09/77 first girl child born 08/07/79 second girl child born 15/07/85 changed service to another govt with pension 88 to 93 devoloped good finacial gain 28/08/97 first child gone USA for higher studies engineering.. 29/02/99 second child gone to USA for higher studies engineeing 02/02/79 first time visited foriegn contry that is kaula lampur, Malaysia by ship. Above details are the indication to calculate some of the event s after rectification of birth time as I am eager to know that from your ends. Hope I will hear from you. With regards. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Sent: Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 8:11:39 PMRe: Re: BT Rectification Dear Sandeep, First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham' s method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... The method is simple,cast the K.P.. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g. , if a consultant saus "I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7..00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... Wishing you the very best, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! . sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM Re: BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Dear Dr SheetalIF you have Raichur's KP, the KP util given with it, item 3 Ruling Planets, makes this adjustment very easy. Try itSheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Hello sir I am not very experienced so I may be wrong and don't want to challange anybody. I am trying this method in all the cases. When birth time is not sure, I have to believe this but then this formula should be applicable to all the cases, that moon star lord and sublord should appear as lagna sub and sub sub. In cases where we are sure about the time of birth, in that case u can doubt and correct the time by 1-2 mt here or there thinking little watch difference (even in correct watch too) and in that case this formula doesnt work. Because to change any sublord to match it with moon star lord, we have to move a lot. Yes u should get some direct of indirect relation between moon star and sub lords with lagna sub and sub sub. This is my experience though little. Along with this u have to see relation of 1st corrected cusp with 9th cusp and talling with few (2-3) imp incidences in life (not only one incidence) Regards Dr Sheetal On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sandeep, First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham's method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... The method is simple,cast the K.P. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g., if a consultant saus "I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7.00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... Wishing you the very best, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! . sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21 > Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM Re: BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. raichur anant mumbai Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Dea Dr.Sheetal, That is the quickest and perhaps the most effective method...as one can move the TOB up and down...easily and quickly... L.Y.Rao. Raichur-a-r <raichurar Sent: Saturday, 3 May, 2008 11:53:29 AMRe: Re: BT Rectification Dear Dr SheetalIF you have Raichur's KP, the KP util given with it, item 3 Ruling Planets, makes this adjustment very easy. Try itSheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hello sir I am not very experienced so I may be wrong and don't want to challange anybody. I am trying this method in all the cases. When birth time is not sure, I have to believe this but then this formula should be applicable to all the cases, that moon star lord and sublord should appear as lagna sub and sub sub. In cases where we are sure about the time of birth, in that case u can doubt and correct the time by 1-2 mt here or there thinking little watch difference (even in correct watch too) and in that case this formula doesnt work. Because to change any sublord to match it with moon star lord, we have to move a lot. Yes u should get some direct of indirect relation between moon star and sub lords with lagna sub and sub sub. This is my experience though little. Along with this u have to see relation of 1st corrected cusp with 9th cusp and talling with few (2-3) imp incidences in life (not only one incidence) Regards Dr Sheetal On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sandeep, First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham' s method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... The method is simple,cast the K.P. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g. , if a consultant saus "I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7.00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... Wishing you the very best, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! . sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM Re: BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. raichur anant mumbai Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008  || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Sunset on DOB was at about 17:18:27 and Rectified Birth time comes around 17:07;43 to 17:07:16. Please very events and let us know, if it works for you.With best wishes OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS :-----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Chittaranajn Ghosh Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:11 AM Re: Re: BT Rectification dear Sir, It looks very interesting I have a question for you.My date of birth is 01/02/1950 at the time of sunset as told by my mother.we have made chart taking the time 1758 PM.is it possible for you to correct my birth time. The details are as follow: DOB 01/02/50 POB Ganghati,WB near by city Basirhat Lat 22 40 long 88 52 (12 mile west) TOB Aprox sunset 1758 taken as reference. Few important event in life.25/06/69 joined navy anf left native place. 10/08/76 got marraid 04/09/77 first girl child born 08/07/79 second girl child born 15/07/85 changed service to another govt with pension 88 to 93 devoloped good finacial gain 28/08/97 first child gone USA for higher studies engineering.. 29/02/99 second child gone to USA for higher studies engineeing 02/02/79 first time visited foriegn contry that is kaula lampur, Malaysia by ship. Above details are the indication to calculate some of the event s after rectification of birth time as I am eager to know that from your ends. Hope I will hear from you. With regards. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 8:11:39 PMRe: Re: BT Rectification Dear Sandeep, First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham' s method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... The method is simple,cast the K.P.. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g. , if a consultant saus "I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7..00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... Wishing you the very best, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! . sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM Re: BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Dear members,Mr Andrew Dutta has put forward what he calls the "Rule of Origin" for Birth Time Rectification. I would request the members who are aware of this rule to discuss the same in this forum for the benefit of other members.Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Dear Sir ( Mr L Y Rao) I want to thank u first as u didnt get annoyed by my mail and advicing me very patiently,thanks once again. I did it for many charts but I dont know why I get confused. I am giving u one birth data for which I tried again to correct but I think I am wrong so u plz try it so that I can understand where I am wrong. DOB 16/4/1983; TOB 4.1 AM; POB NAGPUR. Imp incidence in life 1.Joined 1st job on 25th Oct 04, 2.Went to USA for job on 4/3/6, 3.Marriage to be celebrated on 9/7/08 ( U do it with Raichur's sw ,right? Because my Astro 3.3 is in problem after formatting my laptop so I have to purchase one more!!!) I want to learn this from u perfectly.Plz help. Thanks and regards Dr Sheetal On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dea Dr.Sheetal, That is the quickest and perhaps the most effective method...as one can move the TOB up and down...easily and quickly... L.Y.Rao. Raichur-a-r <raichurar Saturday, 3 May, 2008 11:53:29 AMRe: Re: BT Rectification Dear Dr SheetalIF you have Raichur's KP, the KP util given with it, item 3 Ruling Planets, makes this adjustment very easy. Try itSheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hello sir I am not very experienced so I may be wrong and don't want to challange anybody. I am trying this method in all the cases. When birth time is not sure, I have to believe this but then this formula should be applicable to all the cases, that moon star lord and sublord should appear as lagna sub and sub sub. In cases where we are sure about the time of birth, in that case u can doubt and correct the time by 1-2 mt here or there thinking little watch difference (even in correct watch too) and in that case this formula doesnt work. Because to change any sublord to match it with moon star lord, we have to move a lot. Yes u should get some direct of indirect relation between moon star and sub lords with lagna sub and sub sub. This is my experience though little. Along with this u have to see relation of 1st corrected cusp with 9th cusp and talling with few (2-3) imp incidences in life (not only one incidence) Regards Dr Sheetal On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sandeep, First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham' s method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... The method is simple,cast the K.P. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g. , if a consultant saus " I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7.00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... Wishing you the very best, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! . sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM Re: BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. raichur anant mumbai Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Dear members, Mr Andrew Dutta has put forward what he calls the " Rule of Origin " for Birth Time Rectification. I would request the members who are aware of this rule to discuss the same in this forum for the benefit of other members. Sandeep Dear Sandeep I have learnt the method, from excellent course of Sri Andrew Dutta and article by him in EST. RBT is successful many times, but is not fully reliable like any other method. One thing in ANDREWS METHOD SUB-CONST relationship is expanded up to sign level this gives many options. Secondly; in words of Sri Dutta “ I have taught people a " language " . And this language will help people to reach to the perfection of sub-sub-sub...if only they care to apply the principles as it has been taught. Mechanism... which is applicable at the sign level, star level and sub level....3 levels. But anyone desirous of going at deeper levels can easily do so at the 4th or 5th level with the mechanism advocated... Here is what I thought when I was attempting RBT in KP System after applying to many charts Three method,( RBT by RP,SUB-STAR CONN,Dutta Method) As we are aware simple things are very difficult to grasp, comprehend and correctly applied. So is the case with RBT (rectification of birth time) My focus had been to learn correct application of teachings .In spite of Beautiful writing by other about methods taught I have come across some excerpts like quoted below, These are related To sub-star connection, : In the File section of this Group " Rectification Study " ( here group means K_P_SYSTEM group of ) A Study of Various Methodologies of Birth Time Rectification (based on ) Study of AA - Records (Final).doc AND Study of AA -Records (Final) :May 27, 2005 ( Roddens rating is meant by AA etc ) Study of 300 AA-Rated (as per BC/BR) Charts (Final Results) by Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy ranga (AT) mmsindia (DOT) com Findings were. (Total--Records: 300)-----Passes-----------Fails 1) Correct Records-------247 (82%)-------53 (18%) 2) Incorrect (-30 min)---252 (84%)-------48 (16%) 3) Incorrect (-25)-------233 (78%)-------67 (22%) 4) Incorrect (-20)-------239 (80%)-------61 (20%) 5) Incorrect (-15)-------228 (76%)--------72 (24%) 6) Incorrect (-10)-------243 (81%)--------57 (19%) 7) Incorrect (-05)-------235 (78%)--------65 (22%) 8) Incorrect (+05)-------245 (82%)--------55 (18%) 9) Incorrect (+10)-------235 (78%)--------65 (22%) 10) Incorrect (+15)------240 (80%)--------60 (20%) 11) Incorrect (+20)------239 (80%)--------61 (20%) 12) Incorrect (+25)------248 (83%)--------52 (17%) 13) Incorrect (+30)------242 (81%)--------58 (19%) Conclusion: Using the connection between ASC sub lord and MOON star lord is not a reliable technique for rectifying birth time. II. EXPALNATION 1. The rule of connection between ASC sublord and MOON starlord (Moon-Star = ASC Sublord) is satisfied for: 1) 247 (82%) charts out of 300 charts with the original TOBs 2) 252 (84%) charts with the original TOBs (-30 min) 3) 233 (78%) charts with the original TOBs (-25 min) 4) 239 (80%) charts with the original TOBs (-20 min) 5) 228 (76%) charts with the original TOBs (-15 min) 6) 243 (81%) charts with the original TOBs (-10 min) 7) 235 (78%) charts with the original TOBs (-05 min) 8) 245 (82%) charts with the original TOBs (+05 min) 9) 235 (78%) charts with the original TOBs (+10 min) 10) 240 (80%) charts with the original TOBs (+15 min) 11) 239 (80%) charts with the original TOBs (+20 min) 12) 248 (83%) charts with the original TOBs (+25 min) 13) 242 (81%) charts with the original TOBs (+30 min) 2. It shows that the rule is satisfied for 76% to 84% of 300 charts under study whether the original TOB or OTOB+/- 5 min or OTOB+/- 10 min or OTOB+/- 15 min or OTOB+/-20 min or OTOB+/-25 min or OTOB+/- 30 min is taken. 3. Because of such highly skewness or bias to acceptance within the time arrange of original TOB +/- 30 min , this connection rule is not a reliable technique for rectifying birth time. Secondly: Simultaneously Dr Andrew Dutta is teaching RBT. HE claims also his method is Ruling planets based .He couples it with Rule of origin. Fundamentally Dr Dutta has different definition of Linkage (He uses this word linkage instead of connection. Linkage includes sub- star Conn + Rasi placement connection) Therefore my humble request had been, 1. To " redefine Connection used in RBT " alone so we can correctly apply. Prof Andrew dutta definition of connection is quite loose leading to many options. 2. How to find out exact time of Birth within duration of SUB that ranges from 8Minutes 53 sec to 2 minute 40 seconds in unit of time in found /rectified Birth Time. Since Andrew dutta method is partially proving reliable. 3. Unless we learn replicable method in RBT Natal chart and horary chart readings will remain unsynchronized and Natal readings can not be accurate. It is worth remembering Prof KSK has demonstrated and professed results from Horary and Birth chart are bound to be same. Say a example is taken Nakastra level is same. What shall be correct Sub and sub-sub level? I did mentioning my understanding. Connection means: We are examining if Sub-Star connection exists between Planet P and Q or does not exist. 1. P is in star of Q and / OR Q is in star of P 2. P and Q are in same star OR P and Q have same planet as Star lord. 3. Can we go ahead to define and Is it true and correct That connection also mean?. 4. P is in sub of Q And / OR Q is in star of P 5. P and Q are in same SUB (sub lord of both is same planet) 6. P is in star of Q and/or Q is in sub of Q AND / OR vice versa. 7. P is in Star/sub of a planet T and planet T appears as the star or Sub lord OF P Please correct my definition by scoring that is incorrect. To summarize, Please educate by commenting on applicable conditions among 1 to 7 and telling which are incorrect for RBT ALONE. What should be Correct Birth time For Native in question? Here I am practical; I need to learn IN KP How to meet Situation, when client expresses doubt about accuracy of Birth time. Secondly Client does not express doubt BUT attending astrologer wants to check and verify correct birth time usable in KP casting and reading it. Here I quote views of one well known teacher. 1) i differ in philosophy which the forums having about Rectification. For example, one native born in 20-Jan-1980. The rectification deal with Asc of the native and Moon position of 20-Jan-1980(same day). They say as connection like between Asc and Moon of current day. Normally it will not work because twin born and large sub lord duration this method will fail. And also they taking aspect and sign level connection not giving important for star-sub connections. And also the statistical way of analysing Astrological Rule is not good approach. KSK said a rule for marriage, that is 7th house want to connect 2,7,11 houses. Simple i can make failure of marriage rule of KSK applying in thus 1000 charts. i can also say the rules worked 2% only so we should change rule. But truth is we want to check lot of chart in our real-time practice. AA or AAA rated charts people collect in Western world. i don't know how much that Birth time are logical. we want to collect good authenticated charts in our personal practice and take research and providing is the good way. Some people are there in forum to expose them as a real research people of KP system. And purposefully degrade KP system. And confuse students of KP system. So kindly avoid statistic methodology of unknown horoscopes. 2) Prof.Andrew Method. Andrew's method is similar with above method. But he taking star and sub connection. Native’s day of birth in 20-jan-1980 they tally with same day Planet star and sub connection with ASC. it would be same in any centuries to handle. so the planet of 20-Jan never change if you recheck any time. i also think this method never works for twins and long duration of sub. Basically they are not clear what is Ruling planets. Ruling planets means the planets position which rules at the time of rectification. { The method advocated By MPS and endorsed by Shri Lajmi ji is also seeking relationship among elements on day of Birth. But it stands on different footing. Yes it is based on Vedic concepts although argument of same position applies to this method also. For twin birth I wonder how it will apply. Basic method taught by many says you want to take only ASC Sign-star-sub from 20th-Jan-1980. And match with current RP.} “Say Today is the 16th-Jan 2008. Take all planet position from today and match with ASc of 20th-Jan. RP moon sign-star-sub should be matched with Asc sign-star-sub. It will not be same if you check Rectification same day itself or various days. And for twin horoscope you are rectifying the chart then after finishing first chart, the Moon sub lord of current time will change for next chart. This is real experience. And we rectified same horoscope in various part of world in online with my students. Various time zone give various RP. But we all rectified the chart in same time. This experience shows the reliability of this method. The seven rules which you stated in your mail are perfect. And the RP moon's sign-star-sub should have any one of 7 connections with ASC sign-star-sub. More then one connection is not much important. At least one needed for planet connection. Without using sub-sub lord we can do rectification. That kind of rectification called micro level RBT. i will explain this later.” To avoid controversy I have edited correspondence, as our purpose is to learn and not to criticize any one. Hope experts will contribute more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Dear Sandeep, Pl. read my comments too...on The Rectification of the TOB... The late Mr.Shanmugham had already given several methods for arriving at the EXACT TOB...in the wellknown book,edited by K.Subramaniam the son of our late Guruji KSK... I suggest you purchase the Annual Issues of K.P. & Astrology...published once every year in December...for the next year...I can assure you that you will find a lot of interesting NEW THOUGHTS on K.P. Dr. Andrew Dutta an eminent scholar, also contributes articles to this Magazine... also,many more articles on the latest research, by K.P. Stalwarts can also be found in the Magazine... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21 Sent: Monday, 5 May, 2008 12:42:47 AM Re: BT Rectification Dear members,Mr Andrew Dutta has put forward what he calls the "Rule of Origin" for Birth Time Rectification. I would request the members who are aware of this rule to discuss the same in this forum for the benefit of other members.Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Dear Sir, I will do the backward calculations and revert back with details shortly. swami <swami Sent: Sunday, 4 May, 2008 2:34:12 PMRe: Re: BT Rectification  || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear Sunset on DOB was at about 17:18:27 and Rectified Birth time comes around 17:07;43 to 17:07:16. Please very events and let us know, if it works for you.With best wishes OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS :------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Chittaranajn Ghosh @gro ups.com Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:11 AM Re: Re: BT Rectification dear Sir, It looks very interesting I have a question for you.My date of birth is 01/02/1950 at the time of sunset as told by my mother.we have made chart taking the time 1758 PM.is it possible for you to correct my birth time. The details are as follow: DOB 01/02/50 POB Ganghati,WB near by city Basirhat Lat 22 40 long 88 52 (12 mile west) TOB Aprox sunset 1758 taken as reference. Few important event in life.25/06/69 joined navy anf left native place. 10/08/76 got marraid 04/09/77 first girl child born 08/07/79 second girl child born 15/07/85 changed service to another govt with pension 88 to 93 devoloped good finacial gain 28/08/97 first child gone USA for higher studies engineering. . 29/02/99 second child gone to USA for higher studies engineeing 02/02/79 first time visited foriegn contry that is kaula lampur, Malaysia by ship. Above details are the indication to calculate some of the event s after rectification of birth time as I am eager to know that from your ends. Hope I will hear from you. With regards. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 April, 2008 8:11:39 PMRe: Re: BT Rectification Dear Sandeep, First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham' s method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... The method is simple,cast the K.P.. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g. , if a consultant saus "I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7..00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... Wishing you the very best, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! . sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM Re: BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Dr Sheetal, I thought , i may also be corrected. From method advocated by Shri Lajmi sir, i get TOB 4:17 AM for the Native in question. ..{Hint with KP new ayanamsa Lagna rising is 329:06:03 and Moon was at 34:29;27 synchronising with Sun as Sub lord and Saturn as Sub-sub lord. Moreover moon has SUN as star lord and Saturn is SUB lord.} hope it helps! and if i am wrong , I am corrected. with regards OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS ( http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Sheetal Monday, May 05, 2008 10:35 AM Re: Re: BT Rectification Dear Sir ( Mr L Y Rao) I want to thank u first as u didnt get annoyed by my mail and advicing me very patiently,thanks once again. I did it for many charts but I dont know why I get confused. I am giving u one birth data for which I tried again to correct but I think I am wrong so u plz try it so that I can understand where I am wrong. DOB 16/4/1983; TOB 4.1 AM; POB NAGPUR. Imp incidence in life 1.Joined 1st job on 25th Oct 04, 2.Went to USA for job on 4/3/6, 3.Marriage to be celebrated on 9/7/08 ( U do it with Raichur's sw ,right? Because my Astro 3.3 is in problem after formatting my laptop so I have to purchase one more!!!) I want to learn this from u perfectly.Plz help. Thanks and regards Dr Sheetal On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dea Dr.Sheetal, That is the quickest and perhaps the most effective method...as one can move the TOB up and down...easily and quickly... L.Y.Rao. Raichur-a-r <raichurar > Saturday, 3 May, 2008 11:53:29 AMRe: Re: BT Rectification Dear Dr SheetalIF you have Raichur's KP, the KP util given with it, item 3 Ruling Planets, makes this adjustment very easy. Try itSheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hello sir I am not very experienced so I may be wrong and don't want to challange anybody. I am trying this method in all the cases. When birth time is not sure, I have to believe this but then this formula should be applicable to all the cases, that moon star lord and sublord should appear as lagna sub and sub sub. In cases where we are sure about the time of birth, in that case u can doubt and correct the time by 1-2 mt here or there thinking little watch difference (even in correct watch too) and in that case this formula doesnt work. Because to change any sublord to match it with moon star lord, we have to move a lot. Yes u should get some direct of indirect relation between moon star and sub lords with lagna sub and sub sub. This is my experience though little. Along with this u have to see relation of 1st corrected cusp with 9th cusp and talling with few (2-3) imp incidences in life (not only one incidence) Regards Dr Sheetal On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sandeep, First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham' s method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... The method is simple,cast the K.P. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g. , if a consultant saus "I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7.00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... Wishing you the very best, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! . sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM Re: BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. raichur anant mumbai Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Dear Sir, It is very interesting to note please give the address from where we can get this annual issue for our reference, thanking you. With regards, Mr Ghosh. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Sent: Monday, 5 May, 2008 5:19:00 PMRe: Re: BT Rectification Dear Sandeep, Pl. read my comments too....on The Rectification of the TOB... The late Mr.Shanmugham had already given several methods for arriving at the EXACT TOB...in the wellknown book,edited by K.Subramaniam the son of our late Guruji KSK... I suggest you purchase the Annual Issues of K.P. & Astrology... published once every year in December...for the next year...I can assure you that you will find a lot of interesting NEW THOUGHTS on K.P. Dr. Andrew Dutta an eminent scholar, also contributes articles to this Magazine... also,many more articles on the latest research, by K.P. Stalwarts can also be found in the Magazine... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ >@gro ups.comMonday, 5 May, 2008 12:42:47 AM Re: BT Rectification Dear members,Mr Andrew Dutta has put forward what he calls the "Rule of Origin" for Birth Time Rectification. I would request the members who are aware of this rule to discuss the same in this forum for the benefit of other members.Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Swamiji Thanks for ur help. One thing I am sure, birth time is not so much ahead.It was recorded as 4.01AM (It is sure after 4.0 AM only) but still there may be a watch difference of 2-5----7 mt and I can consider it but not so much of 16mts!!! I am dam sure. That is why I am asking what to do in such cases. Still I will try to corelated all his life incidences. I could not tally now as my Astro software is not working. It is creating problem in reinstallation again. I will mail u after talling his life incidences after going to India on 14rh May as I have another software there. Thank u very much sir for ur help. I am doing RBT for each and every chart but I always get confused becos when u r sure of the time of birth how much time u can manipulate? At the most 5-7 +/- mts. This is my main problem. I am waiting for Mr LY Rao's guidence on this. Thanks and regards Dr Sheetal On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:29 PM, swami <swami wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Dr Sheetal, I thought , i may also be corrected. From method advocated by Shri Lajmi sir, i get TOB 4:17 AM for the Native in question. ..{Hint with KP new ayanamsa Lagna rising is 329:06:03 and Moon was at 34:29;27 synchronising with Sun as Sub lord and Saturn as Sub-sub lord. Moreover moon has SUN as star lord and Saturn is SUB lord.} hope it helps! and if i am wrong , I am corrected. with regards OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS ( http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] ----------------------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " -- - Sheetal Monday, May 05, 2008 10:35 AM Re: Re: BT Rectification Dear Sir ( Mr L Y Rao) I want to thank u first as u didnt get annoyed by my mail and advicing me very patiently,thanks once again. I did it for many charts but I dont know why I get confused. I am giving u one birth data for which I tried again to correct but I think I am wrong so u plz try it so that I can understand where I am wrong. DOB 16/4/1983; TOB 4.1 AM; POB NAGPUR. Imp incidence in life 1.Joined 1st job on 25th Oct 04, 2.Went to USA for job on 4/3/6, 3.Marriage to be celebrated on 9/7/08 ( U do it with Raichur's sw ,right? Because my Astro 3.3 is in problem after formatting my laptop so I have to purchase one more!!!) I want to learn this from u perfectly.Plz help. Thanks and regards Dr Sheetal On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dea Dr.Sheetal, That is the quickest and perhaps the most effective method...as one can move the TOB up and down...easily and quickly... L.Y.Rao. Raichur-a-r <raichurar Saturday, 3 May, 2008 11:53:29 AMRe: Re: BT Rectification Dear Dr SheetalIF you have Raichur's KP, the KP util given with it, item 3 Ruling Planets, makes this adjustment very easy. Try itSheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hello sir I am not very experienced so I may be wrong and don't want to challange anybody. I am trying this method in all the cases. When birth time is not sure, I have to believe this but then this formula should be applicable to all the cases, that moon star lord and sublord should appear as lagna sub and sub sub. In cases where we are sure about the time of birth, in that case u can doubt and correct the time by 1-2 mt here or there thinking little watch difference (even in correct watch too) and in that case this formula doesnt work. Because to change any sublord to match it with moon star lord, we have to move a lot. Yes u should get some direct of indirect relation between moon star and sub lords with lagna sub and sub sub. This is my experience though little. Along with this u have to see relation of 1st corrected cusp with 9th cusp and talling with few (2-3) imp incidences in life (not only one incidence) Regards Dr Sheetal On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sandeep, First of all allow me to caution you that the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham' s method has been found quite effective by me in a fair percentage of cases provided the given TOB for correction is only + or - (plus or minus) 20 to 30 minutes from the actual TOB... Shanmugham writes in his book that if the sub-lord of the Ascendant appears as the Moon's star-lord the Birth Time is correct upto the minute... I go one step further and include that, the sub-sub of the Ascendant appears as the sub-lord of the Moon,the TOB is correct upto a few seconds...One can go even upto the sub-sub-sub level to...But I found that upto the sub-sub level is very accurate for practical purposes... The method is simple,cast the K.P. horoscope using K.P. Software incorporating K.P. Ayanamsa, and cast the horoscope for approximately the middle of the range given...e.g. , if a consultant saus " I do not know the exact Time of Birth,it is somewhere btween 7.00 to 7-30 AM...Take the TOB for correction as 7-15-00. AM and check whether : i) Whether the sub-lord and the sub-sub lord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star lord and sub-lord. ii) If not, move the Ascendant by changing the TOB + or - till you get such an Ascendant is arrived at...This TOB will be correct upto a few seconds... Wishing you the very best, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! . sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 6:36:33 PM Re: BT Rectification Dear Lajmi ji,Can you please briefly describe the Shanmugam's Method for uninitiated people like me?Regards,Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. 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