Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Dear Friends, What kind of endless process is it? BOT is rectified and said to be the exact or correct one and verified by life event to be correct, and then telling to go to horary. Regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Shivendra, > As per your own analysis/confirmation the TOB arrived at is correct...but you are apprehensive about your reading of his marriage...In that case the best way out,is to resoert to Horary Horoscopy...ask him to give you a horary number between 1 & 249...and analyse... > L.Y.Rao. > > > > Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 > > Thursday, 20 March, 2008 11:18:51 AM > Re: Marriage, plz comments. > > Respected Sir, > I made my attempt to check the correctness of horoscop of the corrected time as suggested. > Atul, DOB 12-04-1979, TOB 4-45-30, POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, Asc. Piece 0-22-15 i.e. Jup-Jup-Moon- Ven. > To verify correctness the first rule was verified by Shri Sheetal ji and corrected the TOB as 4-45-30 against 4-50 Hrs. > As per another rule, 9th house should connected with Asc. In this case 9th lord is mars having positional status and placed in Asc. The star lord Sat is in leo lord of which Sun having positional status is also placed in Asc. The sub lord of 9th is Ven which is in star of Jup the lord of Asc. Hence this is also satisfy. > Finally we may test the correctness by event which would have been taken place in past. Mr. Atul was accidented on 3-2-2002 during the period of Rahu-Ven-Mer- Rahu period and his L 3 & L4 was breaked resultantly his spin was compressed so his legs remained disterebed for three to four month. In short this is verifyable through revised TOB. > Coming to the point again CSL 7 is Rahu and in no way connected to 2, 5, 7 and 11 except 8. Again should I declare " No marriage " . > with regards > yours. > > Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: > Respected sir > Thanks a lot. Though I have casted chart with the help of corrected time given by you and will submit my finding by evening today. Since I am worried a number 03 came in my mind for the purpose, so kindly take it for the purpose. > Regards > Yours > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! > Dr Sheetal > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Hello > > When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars- Venus- Shani-moon- Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha > > 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. > > One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3, 6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. > > Thanks and regards > Sheetal > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: > > Respected Dr. Sheetal > Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. > Regards > yours > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Shivendra > > I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; > > 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. > > Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani- -Shani > > STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU, KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* > ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS-- 8H > > STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= > > GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9, 8 > 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. > > SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10, 11,12 > 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. > > MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9, 6 > 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. > > MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+ 8 > 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses > > This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) > > TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) > > Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani- -Moon--Mars) > > NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. > > Best of luck to Atul > Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: > > Name: ATUL, > DOB: 12-04-1979, > TOB: 04:50AM. > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North. > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16. > > Sir, > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are > here as under: - > > 2. Ar. Mars †" Ketu †" Sat vacant. > 7. Vir. Mer †" Sun †" Jup Moon (in own star) > 11. Sag. Jup †" Sun †" Moon Vacant. > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. > > Significators: > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is > fruitful. > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good. > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future. > with regards > yours > Shivendra > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know how. > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. 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Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Dear Shivendra Tiwari, Firstly, pl make sure to use Geocentric positions to be comparable to the standard one which we're using, ie. for Atul, DOB 12-04-1979, TOB 4-45-30, POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, you've got Asc. Piece 0-22-15 and I've got Piece 0-21-30 (Geocentric). Even though it doesn't matter in this case, it may be different in some cases. Secondly, TOB 4-45-30 Asc sublord Moon doesn't signify 8,12 to have a such serious accident. Original TOB 4-50 Asc sublord Rahu signifies 8,12 and also connected to Saturn to have a such serious accident. Rahu-Venus DB indication of accident and safe from accident is the same for both TOBs. Accident: if 1 st CSL signifies 8,12 during DBA jointly signifying 8,12; Ma is karaka. If Sbl is connected with Ma, Sa, Ra, Ke. KP House Grouping- Part 1, KPE-Zine, www.loger.com Finally, you've to think and rethink which TOB is better fit to the major life event and more reasonable. Regards, tw , Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: > > Respected Sir, > I made my attempt to check the correctness of horoscop of the corrected time as suggested. > Atul, DOB 12-04-1979, TOB 4-45-30, POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, Asc. Piece 0-22-15 i.e. Jup-Jup-Moon-Ven. > To verify correctness the first rule was verified by Shri Sheetal ji and corrected the TOB as 4-45-30 against 4-50 Hrs. > As per another rule, 9th house should connected with Asc. In this case 9th lord is mars having positional status and placed in Asc. The star lord Sat is in leo lord of which Sun having positional status is also placed in Asc. The sub lord of 9th is Ven which is in star of Jup the lord of Asc. Hence this is also satisfy. > Finally we may test the correctness by event which would have been taken place in past. Mr. Atul was accidented on 3-2-2002 during the period of Rahu-Ven-Mer-Rahu period and his L 3 & L4 was breaked resultantly his spin was compressed so his legs remained disterebed for three to four month. In short this is verifyable through revised TOB. > Coming to the point again CSL 7 is Rahu and in no way connected to 2, 5, 7 and 11 except 8. Again should I declare " No marriage " . > with regards > yours. > > Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: > Respected sir > Thanks a lot. Though I have casted chart with the help of corrected time given by you and will submit my finding by evening today. Since I am worried a number 03 came in my mind for the purpose, so kindly take it for the purpose. > Regards > Yours > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! > Dr Sheetal > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > Hello > > When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars- Venus-Shani-moon-Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha > > 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. > > One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3,6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. > > Thanks and regards > Sheetal > > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: > Respected Dr. Sheetal > Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. > Regards > yours > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > > > > Dear Shivendra > > I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; > > 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. > > Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani > > STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* > ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS- -8H > > STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= > > GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8 > 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. > > SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 > 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. > > MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6 > 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. > > MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8 > 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses > > This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) > > TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) > > Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars) > > NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. > > Best of luck to Atul > Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 wrote: > Name: ATUL, > DOB: 12-04-1979, > TOB: 04:50AM. > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North. > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16. > > Sir, > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are > here as under: - > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant. > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant. > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. > > Significators: > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is > fruitful. > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good. > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future. > with regards > yours > Shivendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Respected Sir, Thanks for help. I will try my level best. regards yours Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Shivendra, As per your own analysis/confirmation the TOB arrived at is correct...but you are apprehensive about your reading of his marriage...In that case the best way out,is to resoert to Horary Horoscopy...ask him to give you a horary number between 1 & 249...and analyse... L.Y.Rao. Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Thursday, 20 March, 2008 11:18:51 AMRe: Marriage, plz comments. Respected Sir, I made my attempt to check the correctness of horoscop of the corrected time as suggested. Atul, DOB 12-04-1979, TOB 4-45-30, POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, Asc. Piece 0-22-15 i.e. Jup-Jup-Moon- Ven. To verify correctness the first rule was verified by Shri Sheetal ji and corrected the TOB as 4-45-30 against 4-50 Hrs. As per another rule, 9th house should connected with Asc. In this case 9th lord is mars having positional status and placed in Asc. The star lord Sat is in leo lord of which Sun having positional status is also placed in Asc. The sub lord of 9th is Ven which is in star of Jup the lord of Asc. Hence this is also satisfy. Finally we may test the correctness by event which would have been taken place in past. Mr. Atul was accidented on 3-2-2002 during the period of Rahu-Ven-Mer- Rahu period and his L 3 & L4 was breaked resultantly his spin was compressed so his legs remained disterebed for three to four month. In short this is verifyable through revised TOB. Coming to the point again CSL 7 is Rahu and in no way connected to 2, 5, 7 and 11 except 8. Again should I declare "No marriage". with regards yours.Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: Respected sir Thanks a lot. Though I have casted chart with the help of corrected time given by you and will submit my finding by evening today. Since I am worried a number 03 came in my mind for the purpose, so kindly take it for the purpose. Regards Yours Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hello When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars-Venus- Shani-moon- Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3, 6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. Thanks and regards Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: Respected Dr. Sheetal Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. Regards yours Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Shivendra I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani- -Shani STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU, KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9, 8 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10, 11,12 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9, 6 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+ 8 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani- -Moon--Mars) NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. Best of luck to Atul Regards Dr Sheetal On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: Name: ATUL,DOB: 12-04-1979,TOB: 04:50AM.POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: -2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful.7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.with regardsyoursShivendra Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008  II Om Gurave Namah II Hari Om, Dear friends, The discussion initiated by Shri Shivendra Tiwari, is an eye opener. Whole fraternety is inconclusive of Marriage of Shri ATUL.Forget about marriage timing. This calls for audit on our part, where we stand . May divine grant us clarity in correct application of principle we follow. Please fogive me for my lack of understanding, if my conclusion is faulty. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Shivendra Tiwari Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:53 PM Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected Sir, Thanks for help. I will try my level best. regards yours Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Shivendra, As per your own analysis/confirmation the TOB arrived at is correct...but you are apprehensive about your reading of his marriage...In that case the best way out,is to resoert to Horary Horoscopy...ask him to give you a horary number between 1 & 249...and analyse... L.Y.Rao. Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Thursday, 20 March, 2008 11:18:51 AMRe: Marriage, plz comments. Respected Sir, I made my attempt to check the correctness of horoscop of the corrected time as suggested. Atul, DOB 12-04-1979, TOB 4-45-30, POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, Asc. Piece 0-22-15 i.e. Jup-Jup-Moon- Ven. To verify correctness the first rule was verified by Shri Sheetal ji and corrected the TOB as 4-45-30 against 4-50 Hrs. As per another rule, 9th house should connected with Asc. In this case 9th lord is mars having positional status and placed in Asc. The star lord Sat is in leo lord of which Sun having positional status is also placed in Asc. The sub lord of 9th is Ven which is in star of Jup the lord of Asc. Hence this is also satisfy. Finally we may test the correctness by event which would have been taken place in past. Mr. Atul was accidented on 3-2-2002 during the period of Rahu-Ven-Mer- Rahu period and his L 3 & L4 was breaked resultantly his spin was compressed so his legs remained disterebed for three to four month. In short this is verifyable through revised TOB. Coming to the point again CSL 7 is Rahu and in no way connected to 2, 5, 7 and 11 except 8. Again should I declare "No marriage". with regards yours.Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: Respected sir Thanks a lot. Though I have casted chart with the help of corrected time given by you and will submit my finding by evening today. Since I am worried a number 03 came in my mind for the purpose, so kindly take it for the purpose. Regards Yours Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hello When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars-Venus- Shani-moon- Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3, 6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. Thanks and regards Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: Respected Dr. Sheetal Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. Regards yours Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Shivendra I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani- -Shani STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU, KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9, 8 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10, 11,12 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9, 6 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+ 8 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani- -Moon--Mars) NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. Best of luck to Atul Regards Dr Sheetal On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: Name: ATUL,DOB: 12-04-1979,TOB: 04:50AM.POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: -2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful.7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.with regardsyoursShivendra Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Dear K. P. Naidu ji, We're using more accurate Geocentric, which you get it " by default " setting of the free SWs or Shri Raichur's Demon which you're using, without touching any coversion key. You'll see in Western charts, it is clearly mentioned Geocentric. If you touch Geocentric conversion key in any of these SWs, you will get Geographic. The same thing with KPAstro 3.0 and the default setting will give Geocentric and if the Geocentric conversion key is touched, it will give Geographic. You normally enter Geographic and then SWs automatically convert into Geocentric and you'll get Geocentric positions. It is a little tricky. The only thing not to touch any conversion key, if one is not sure what he is doing. Regards, tw , " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan wrote: > > dear sri Tin Win Ji, > > which one, Geographic or Geocentric better to get the accurate cuspal and planetary positions on which the KP pointers are indicated. > > Kindly clarify me. > > With Regards, > Naidu KP > > > K. P. Naidu, > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > Nowroji Road, > Maharanipeta, > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Dear K. P. Naidu ji, To make it clear and to be able to check it, for Atul, DOB 12-04-1979,TOB 4-50 (Original), POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, New KPA 23:28:39, KPAstro 3.0 gives Geocenric Asc Piece 01-57-56; Geographic Asc. Piece 01-58-30 for Atul, DOB 12-04-1979,TOB 4-45-30 (Adjusted), POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, New KPA 23:28:39, KPAstro 3.0 gives Geocenric Asc Piece 0-21-30; Geographic Asc. Piece 0-22-16 Regards, tw , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear K. P. Naidu ji, > > We're using more accurate Geocentric, which you get it " by default " > setting of the free SWs or Shri Raichur's Demon which you're using, > without touching any coversion key. You'll see in Western charts, it > is clearly mentioned Geocentric. If you touch Geocentric conversion > key in any of these SWs, you will get Geographic. The same thing > with KPAstro 3.0 and the default setting will give Geocentric and if > the Geocentric conversion key is touched, it will give Geographic. > You normally enter Geographic and then SWs automatically convert > into Geocentric and you'll get Geocentric positions. It is a little > tricky. The only thing not to touch any conversion key, if one is > not sure what he is doing. > > Regards, > > tw > > , " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan@> > wrote: > > > > dear sri Tin Win Ji, > > > > which one, Geographic or Geocentric better to get the accurate > cuspal and planetary positions on which the KP pointers are > indicated. > > > > Kindly clarify me. > > > > With Regards, > > Naidu KP > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > Nowroji Road, > > Maharanipeta, > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > know how. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Dear Swami ji, It's still going on in the vicious circle from sure to not sure, try again from not sure to sure. Let us wait and see what can we learn form this. Regards, tw , " swami " <swami wrote: > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > Hari Om, > Dear friends, > The discussion initiated by Shri Shivendra Tiwari, is an eye opener. > Whole fraternety is inconclusive of Marriage of Shri ATUL.Forget about marriage timing. > This calls for audit on our part, where we stand . > May divine grant us clarity in correct application of principle we follow. > Please fogive me for my lack of understanding, if my conclusion is faulty. > > OM TATSAT > ------------------------ > Swami_RCS > ----------------------- > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > - - > > - > Shivendra Tiwari > > Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:53 PM > Re: Marriage, plz comments. > > > > Respected Sir, > Thanks for help. I will try my level best. > regards > yours > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > Dear Shivendra, > As per your own analysis/confirmation the TOB arrived at is correct...but you are apprehensive about your reading of his marriage...In that case the best way out,is to resoert to Horary Horoscopy...ask him to give you a horary number between 1 & 249...and analyse... > L.Y.Rao. > > > > Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 > > Thursday, 20 March, 2008 11:18:51 AM > Re: Marriage, plz comments. > > > Respected Sir, > I made my attempt to check the correctness of horoscop of the corrected time as suggested. > Atul, DOB 12-04-1979, TOB 4-45-30, POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, Asc. Piece 0-22-15 i.e. Jup-Jup-Moon- Ven. > To verify correctness the first rule was verified by Shri Sheetal ji and corrected the TOB as 4-45-30 against 4-50 Hrs. > As per another rule, 9th house should connected with Asc. In this case 9th lord is mars having positional status and placed in Asc. The star lord Sat is in leo lord of which Sun having positional status is also placed in Asc. The sub lord of 9th is Ven which is in star of Jup the lord of Asc. Hence this is also satisfy. > Finally we may test the correctness by event which would have been taken place in past. Mr. Atul was accidented on 3-2-2002 during the period of Rahu-Ven-Mer- Rahu period and his L 3 & L4 was breaked resultantly his spin was compressed so his legs remained disterebed for three to four month. In short this is verifyable through revised TOB. > Coming to the point again CSL 7 is Rahu and in no way connected to 2, 5, 7 and 11 except 8. Again should I declare " No marriage " . > with regards > yours. > > Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: > Respected sir > Thanks a lot. Though I have casted chart with the help of corrected time given by you and will submit my finding by evening today. Since I am worried a number 03 came in my mind for the purpose, so kindly take it for the purpose. > Regards > Yours > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! > Dr Sheetal > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Hello > > When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars- Venus- Shani-moon- Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha > > 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. > > One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3, 6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. > > Thanks and regards > Sheetal > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: > > Respected Dr. Sheetal > Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. > Regards > yours > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Shivendra > > I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; > > 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. > > Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani- -Shani > > STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU, KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* > ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H > > STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= > > GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9, 8 > 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. > > SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10, 11,12 > 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. > > MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9, 6 > 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. > > MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+ 8 > 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses > > This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) > > TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) > > Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani- -Moon--Mars) > > NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of - -ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. > > Best of luck to Atul > Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: > > Name: ATUL, > DOB: 12-04-1979, > TOB: 04:50AM. > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North. > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16. > > Sir, > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are > here as under: - > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant. > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant. > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. > > Significators: > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is > fruitful. > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good. > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future. > with regards > yours > Shivendra > > > > - - > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > > > - ------- > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Dear Friends, After going through whole topic, I am unable to understand why cant we declare the native is not going to get married.Why are we becoming so subjective and want him to get married? This shows either we are not too confident about the method or we lack of certain tools(Extended stellar methods ) which would help us in getting to correct result. Declare he is not going to get married. Regards Eklavya , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > What kind of endless process is it? BOT is rectified and said to be > the exact or correct one and verified by life event to be correct, > and then telling to go to horary. > > Regards, > > tw > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Shivendra, > > As per your own analysis/confirmation the > TOB arrived at is correct...but you are apprehensive about your > reading of his marriage...In that case the best way out,is to > resoert to Horary Horoscopy...ask him to give you a horary number > between 1 & 249...and analyse... > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@> > > > > Thursday, 20 March, 2008 11:18:51 AM > > Re: Marriage, plz comments. > > > > Respected Sir, > > I made my attempt to check the correctness of horoscop of the > corrected time as suggested. > > Atul, DOB 12-04-1979, TOB 4-45-30, POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, Asc. > Piece 0-22-15 i.e. Jup-Jup-Moon- Ven. > > To verify correctness the first rule was verified by Shri Sheetal > ji and corrected the TOB as 4-45-30 against 4-50 Hrs. > > As per another rule, 9th house should connected with Asc. In this > case 9th lord is mars having positional status and placed in Asc. > The star lord Sat is in leo lord of which Sun having positional > status is also placed in Asc. The sub lord of 9th is Ven which is in > star of Jup the lord of Asc. Hence this is also satisfy. > > Finally we may test the correctness by event which would have been > taken place in past. Mr. Atul was accidented on 3-2-2002 during the > period of Rahu-Ven-Mer- Rahu period and his L 3 & L4 was breaked > resultantly his spin was compressed so his legs remained disterebed > for three to four month. In short this is verifyable through revised > TOB. > > Coming to the point again CSL 7 is Rahu and in no way connected to > 2, 5, 7 and 11 except 8. Again should I declare " No marriage " . > > with regards > > yours. > > > > Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: > > Respected sir > > Thanks a lot. Though I have casted chart with the help of > corrected time given by you and will submit my finding by evening > today. Since I am worried a number 03 came in my mind for the > purpose, so kindly take it for the purpose. > > Regards > > Yours > > > > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of > judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix > Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord > of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at > Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars- > Venus- Shani-moon- Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru > in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house > under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha > and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha > > > > 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for > marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I > personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it > will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. > > > > One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time > and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything > wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as > 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3, 6,8,12. Mostly all negating > houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting > house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house > signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all > other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his > advice and opinion to me. > > > > Thanks and regards > > Sheetal > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ > .co. in> wrote: > > > > Respected Dr. Sheetal > > Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel > otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in > place of Jup. > > Regards > > yours > > > > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Dear Shivendra > > > > I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step > method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, > Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th > sublord; > > > > 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses > 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in > life. > > > > Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani- -Shani > > > > STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU, KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: > SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* > > ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS- - > 8H > > > > STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= > > > > GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9, 8 > > 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. > > > > SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10, 11,12 > > 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. > > > > MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9, 6 > > 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. > > > > MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+ 8 > > 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the > chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses > > > > This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken > then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th > june.) > > > > TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to > 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for > fast Mars thruough star.) > > > > Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June > 09.(Guru--Shani- -Moon--Mars) > > > > NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator > for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but > all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for > marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his > life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. > > > > Best of luck to Atul > > Regards > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56@ > .co. in> wrote: > > > > Name: ATUL, > > DOB: 12-04-1979, > > TOB: 04:50AM. > > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North. > > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16. > > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: - > > > > 2. Ar. Mars †" Ketu †" Sat vacant. > > 7. Vir. Mer †" Sun †" Jup Moon (in own star) > > 11. Sag. Jup †" Sun †" Moon Vacant. > > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. > > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful. > > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good. > > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. > > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future. > > with regards > > yours > > Shivendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Shivendraji, I have gone thru the chart prepared by me for 12/4/1979 and according to my Vedic calculation the marriage is delayed due to 1. Moon alone in the 7th house 2. Sun, the lord of sixth aspecting 7th house from Asc. 3. Venus opposing Saturn in 12th house 4. Venus joining Ketu who is withdrawing the results of Venus. The marriage will be celebrated on 1st March 2009 positively when Mars, the 2nd house lord will be exalted in 11th house with Jupiter the Asc. lord. The Venus will be in the Asc. On this date Moon will be in the 2nd house Aries. Please watch my judgement. Ashwin Rawal , Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: > > Respected Dr. Sheetal > Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. > Regards > yours > > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > Dear Shivendra > > I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; > > 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. > > Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani > > STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* > ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS-- 8H > > STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= > > GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8 > 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. > > SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 > 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. > > MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6 > 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. > > MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8 > 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses > > This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) > > TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) > > Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars) > > NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. > > Best of luck to Atul > Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 wrote: > Name: ATUL, > DOB: 12-04-1979, > TOB: 04:50AM. > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North. > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16. > > Sir, > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are > here as under: - > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant. > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant. > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. > > Significators: > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is > fruitful. > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good. > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future. > with regards > yours > Shivendra > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Respected Sir, Thanks for taking pain. I will watch and will report the result to all members. with regards yours ashwinrawal <ashwinrawal wrote: Dear Shivendraji, I have gone thru the chart prepared by me for 12/4/1979 and according to my Vedic calculation the marriage is delayed due to 1. Moon alone in the 7th house2. Sun, the lord of sixth aspecting 7th house from Asc.3. Venus opposing Saturn in 12th house4. Venus joining Ketu who is withdrawing the results of Venus.The marriage will be celebrated on 1st March 2009 positively when Mars, the 2nd house lord will be exalted in 11th house with Jupiter the Asc. lord. The Venus will be in the Asc. On this date Moon will be in the 2nd house Aries. Please watch my judgement.Ashwin Rawal , Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote:>> Respected Dr. Sheetal> Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup.> Regards> yours> > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:> Dear Shivendra> > I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord;> > 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life.> > Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani> > STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* > ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H> > STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS=> > GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8> 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also.> > SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12> 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also.> > MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6> 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also.> > MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8> 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses> > This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.)> > TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.)> > Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars)> > NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him.> > Best of luck to Atul> Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 wrote:> Name: ATUL,> DOB: 12-04-1979,> TOB: 04:50AM.> POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.> NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > Sir, > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are > here as under: -> > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > Significators: > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is > fruitful.> > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> with regards> yours> Shivendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 dear ashwin, regarding your point no.1,moon in 7th house delays the matter of marrige is new to me.i honour your experince and will note this point in my future predictions. thanks -sunil gondhalekar On 3/23/08, ashwinrawal <ashwinrawal wrote: Dear Shivendraji, I have gone thru the chart prepared by me for 12/4/1979 and according to my Vedic calculation the marriage is delayed due to 1. Moon alone in the 7th house2. Sun, the lord of sixth aspecting 7th house from Asc. 3. Venus opposing Saturn in 12th house4. Venus joining Ketu who is withdrawing the results of Venus.The marriage will be celebrated on 1st March 2009 positively when Mars, the 2nd house lord will be exalted in 11th house with Jupiter the Asc. lord. The Venus will be in the Asc. On this date Moon will be in the 2nd house Aries. Please watch my judgement.Ashwin Rawal , Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote:>> Respected Dr. Sheetal> Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup.> Regards> yours> > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:> Dear Shivendra> > I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord;> > 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. > > Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani> > STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* > ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS-- 8H> > STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS=> > GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8> 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also.> > SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12> 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. > > MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6> 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also.> > MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8> 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses > > This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.)> > TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.)> > Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars)> > NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him.> > Best of luck to Atul> Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 wrote:> Name: ATUL,> DOB: 12-04-1979,> TOB: 04:50AM.> POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.> NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > Sir, > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are > here as under: -> > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. > > Significators: > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is > fruitful.> > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> with regards> yours> Shivendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 It's news to me too..... I always thought Lord of 5th House in 7th would give a Love Marriage rather than cause delay (BPHS Vol I & II) It would link affairs of 7th and 5th houses..... On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:38 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: dear ashwin, regarding your point no.1,moon in 7th house delays the matter of marrige is new to me.i honour your experince and will note this point in my future predictions. thanks -sunil gondhalekar On 3/23/08, ashwinrawal <ashwinrawal wrote: Dear Shivendraji, I have gone thru the chart prepared by me for 12/4/1979 and according to my Vedic calculation the marriage is delayed due to 1. Moon alone in the 7th house2. Sun, the lord of sixth aspecting 7th house from Asc. 3. Venus opposing Saturn in 12th house4. Venus joining Ketu who is withdrawing the results of Venus.The marriage will be celebrated on 1st March 2009 positively when Mars, the 2nd house lord will be exalted in 11th house with Jupiter the Asc. lord. The Venus will be in the Asc. On this date Moon will be in the 2nd house Aries. Please watch my judgement.Ashwin Rawal , Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote:>> Respected Dr. Sheetal> Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup.> Regards> yours> > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:> Dear Shivendra> > I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord;> > 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. > > Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani> > STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* > ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS-- 8H> > STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS=> > GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8> 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also.> > SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12> 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. > > MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6> 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also.> > MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8> 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses > > This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.)> > TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.)> > Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars)> > NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him.> > Best of luck to Atul> Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 wrote:> Name: ATUL,> DOB: 12-04-1979,> TOB: 04:50AM.> POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.> NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > Sir, > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are > here as under: -> > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. > > Significators: > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is > fruitful.> > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> with regards> yours> Shivendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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